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Sephiroth & Jenova Who is controlling whom?
#1
Posted 25 February 2006 - 02:04 AM
1) The Jenova Reunion
As we all saw in Shinra HQ, the container where Jenova’s corpse/body was stored was clearly knocked outwards, leading to the only sensible conclusion that Jenova’s body itself was moving from Shinra to a location of its designation. If the UOG is to be believed, Sephiroth is somehow causing her to do this. He has forced his cosmic viral space monster of immense telepathic, shapeshifting and magical power to emulate his form and murder those in the Headquarters. Now, let’s see this sensibly.
How the flying ##### is Sephiroth doing this? What overwhelming mastery of time and space has he gained in order to reach all the way out of his 5-year rest in Northern Crater and to Midgar and then encourage Jenova to awaken? The answer is simple. HE CAN’T. Sephiroth’s only contact with Jenova was when he ripped her head off in the Mt. Nibel Reactor and then she was still in a dormant state thanks to her cryo-freeze. Is it possible in that time he somehow left a lasting impression on her he would later use to make her his tool? If that’s the case they’re making, then the story is not only weak, it’s downright stupid.
We know from Ifalna’s testament to Professor Gast that Jenova possesses a predatory power to conceal her true form, take on the appearance of another (the Cetra, Sephiroth) and not only reach into their mind to pry away pieces of their memory and persona to help feed it intentions, but also implant fake memories and construct fake persona in others. This skill was utilized against the Cetra and effectively fooled them all till it was too late. Sephiroth, being composed primarily of Jenova Cells by which Jenova can activate her mental powers, is just as susceptible if not more so to her influence on his mind.
Presumably, when Jenova awakened and called upon her seemingly infinite reach to anything that has even the most minuscule portion of her in it, she found Sephiroth, her best chance at accomplishing her viral instinct to multiply, infect and destroy. Thus, she took on his likeness and utilized his powers. One can make a weak argument that at this time when she attempted to use him, he somehow transplanted his own will (which does not physically exist in her at all) his own genuine will over the mimicked will and persona Jenova had adopted. It’s not like she really absorbed his personality or powers. She is replicating them and it is a pretty flawed concept to say that Sephiroth somehow took control of this fake personality she copied to obtain dominance over her.
When Jenova came upon the Cetra, she took on a guise as one of them, using their own minds and thoughts against them while simultaneously shaping herself both physically and mentally like them, basically adopting the collective persona and memories of the Cetra as comoflage while she infected them. The conclusion is that Jenova did the same with Sephiroth after awakening. She felt her cells in him, used her influence and spawned a copy of both Sephiroth’s powers, personality and looks over her own body for her purposes. This makes complete sense as her physical influence in his body and her own ability to utilize every piece of her used collectively make it very probable whereas Sephiroth somehow enacting any sort of his own true will over her is illogical to the extreme.
Yet another counter argument filled with holes is that “Jenova and everyone ‘came’ to Sephiroth.” Well, my dearest fanboy, the reason they went to Sephiroth is because Sephiroth is in what appears to be a hibernation in Northern Crater. Jenova and the ‘clones’ of Sephiroth with Jenova Cells went to him because it is logical. They are mobile and he Is not. Also, Jenova might be seeking the gathered Lifestream there through her apparent instinctive knowledge as how best to corrupt and infect. So, yeah, Jenova and the others went to Sephiroth because they could all move and Jenova sensed the power of Northern Crater which is entirely in Jenova’s power as er power does indeed seem nearly limitless. Plus, her head was still in the Crater, if you want to get down to the nitty-gritty.
The final counter-argument with any possible chance is that Sephiroth diffused his will into Lifestream when he was taking his long bath on the way to his new big hole in the ground he called home. There is zero evidence of this if he did and more importantly, there is no indication Jenova’s body/corpse ever came in contact with either Lifestream or Mako while in Shinra HQ.
All throughout the game the Sephiroth persona emulated by Jenova seeks to become a ‘god’ yet the probability the Planet would survive is about 1% and this massive destruction is Jenova’s intent. Also, if the Planet did survive and Jenova stayed with Sephiroth at its core as the energy of the Planet flowed into them and basically made them the Planet, then it would serve Jenova’s purpose because now she would have en entire planet infected to its core and have a planetary ship with which to find new planets to infect thereby coinciding with her viral nature.
This is all I have to say on the subject and any reasonable counters to it are welcome. ##### like “OMG! But Seph is so much cooler111!!!” is not a reasonable counter for you Sephiroth fanboy blockheads.
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QUOTES IN SUPPORT OF HER POWER
Ifalna:
"He first approached as a friend, deceived them,..."
"That's when it appeared! It looked like... our... our dead
mothers... and our dead brothers. Showing us spectres of their past."
Solidly proving Jenova's ability not only to seize upon memories of others but also alter its appearance.
Hojo:
"Jenova itself began to move away from the Shinra Building."
As stated by his Reunion Theory, Jenova was moving to gather all its pieces and become one once more.
'Sephiroth':
"Cloud... Don't blame Tifa. The ability to change one's looks, voice,
and words, is the power of Jenova. Inside of you, Jenova has merged with Tifa'smemories, creating you. Out of Tifa's memory....."
I prove all these quotes as teastamonial to Jenova's power. I doubt there is any definite quote to prove Jenova to be the one truly in power, butI feel I've proved my point fairly.
#2
Posted 25 February 2006 - 04:27 AM
It is Jenova manipulating Cloud and the others. There is no real Sephiroth, as in it is a clone (he has a tatoo on his arm). The real Sephiroth gets killed by Cloud and thrown into the lifestream, although The Last Order (the short anime showed that Sephiroth jumped into the lifestream).
Sephiroth's body is within the crystal in the Northern Crater and he is dead, hence his final form is an angel.
Jenova pulls all the strings, since she is a manipulating and mind readin thing.
At a certain point, Sephiroth tells that he doesn't remember Cloud, plus that his life isn't real and that he is created. But we all know he isn't created, but he was born.
Sephiroth would surely not forget the person that killed him.
Also, Jenova reads minds and controls people that have Jenova cells within them, but since Cloud wasn't born with Jenova cells, he got them 5 years before he met Jenova. Hence Jenova doesn't know about Cloud's life, even though he did existed before that.
Jenova only knows what she can read in minds and what she can read from the cells. She can control those with cells and manipulate them, so she did with Sephiroth and Cloud.

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#3
Posted 25 February 2006 - 05:50 AM
Secondly, the point about 'Sephiroth' not remembering Cloud is the party's first contact with the Jenova guise of Sephiroth onboard the Cargo Ship. That more than almost anything is conclusive evidence it's not really Sephiroth you are all chasing, but apparently no one, not even the geniuses that star as our heroes, figured this out from Sephiroth's reaction to them on the ship.
There is a real Sephiroth. It's that real Sephiroth Jenova senses upon its awakening and calls upon that Sephiroth's dormant personality twisted as of the events 5 years ago along with all his amazing powers and thus crafts herself a powerful copy of the real Sephiroth with which to accomplish her goals. Sephiroth is both physically alive in Northern Crater and his personality exists in the fake Sephiroth to the extent that it is the imprinted likeness and bares some traits but it's merely a puppet weak persona completely in the power of Jenova.
The proof there was some semblance of Sephiroth’s own personality incorporated in Jenova’s replicating of his body and powers is the simple fact of his whole “God Plan.” If it was simply Jenova housed in a husk of a hollow Sephiroth with no other personality real or otherwise in then the insistance on becoming a god would be non-existent. Jenova indeed was most probably trying to become the Planet itself for her own purposes, but then the whole “god” aspect would not have been brought up once by the Sephiroth we chased around in the game. Jenova’s actions are most distinctly viral in nature and dreams of godhood are something not characteristic of her methodology and point more significantly to the fact some weak shell personality existed in her Sephiroth.
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The dialogue from the Cargo Ship:
Sephiroth: ……Who are you?
Cloud: You don't remember me!? I'm Cloud!
Sephiroth: Cloud…
Cloud: Sephiroth! What are you thinking!? What are you doing!?
Sephiroth: …the time……is now…
Sephiroth vanishes from the scene and Jenova-BIRTH appeared at the scene.
Cloud's group fights Jenova-BIRTH. After Cloud’s group defeats Jenova-BIRTH…
Tifa: I've seen this somewhere…before.
Cloud: …Jenova. You mean he's been walkin' around with that thing?
The body part from Jenova-BIRTH disappeared and turned into the Materia.
Cloud’s group picked up the item.
Cloud: So it WAS Sephiroth.
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Cloud is an intellectual giant, isn't he.
This post has been edited by Sadistic Angel: 25 February 2006 - 06:20 AM
#4
Posted 25 February 2006 - 09:50 AM
Well first off, Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. And directors and writers often don't see eye to eye when it comes to some portions of the story. In Gundam Seed for example, the director claims that Kira "never really liked Fllay, or Lacus" which is obviously bs, and not at all what the writer portrayed to us.
The main problem with Sephiroth even being remotely close to outmatch his orginal, of whom he is a mear copy, is that nowhere in the game was any sort of power struggle between Jenova and Sephiroth portrayed to us. If that's actually a major part of the story, why was no power struggle shown then? And then why would Sephiroth do all this "to be with her" if he competes against her? That doesn't make sense at all.
You'd think that they'd explain his powers and that Jenova was alive and active if this was the case.
No, instead, we do know of Jenova's malicious intent straight from the game (Ifalna), and that she is a very real threat, who works from behind the scenes.
It all begins, and ends with Jenova. It all started when she came crashing down into the Northern Crater. The Cetra managed to defeat her with the final strength they had before almost being completely exctinct from her manipulation powers.
And many years later, her plan to take over the world is carried on by someone willing to do anything for her, while never having even met her. Again, the same thing happens in Advent Children, where three white haired Jenova clones long for nothing more than to be with their mother, just like Sephiroth did several years ago. Just a coinsidense? I doubt it.
*Advent Children spoilers*
As for there being no definite quote regarding Jenova's will and powers, I think there is. There are several in Advent Children. In fact, it's all about Jenova's will and her powers all the way through. Not Sephiroth.
Kadaj states that their powers are granted to them from Mother. And once the children drink from the water, they gain the same cat like eyes as Sephiroth, Kadaj, Looz and Yazoo, and Cloud has when the Jenova cells within him are active, and suddenly they are all acting like controlled puppets.
Kadaj also says that Jenova will chose between him and Sephiroth at the Reunion, and he wonders if she will pick him over Sephiroth. But he seems to believe that it will be Sephiroth, yet he isn't sure. He hopes for a different outcome.
But here's the main one I think you'll find interesting.
When Cloud confronts Kadaj (holding Jenova's head).
Cloud: "What will happen now?"
Kadaj: "Mother will tell you!"
Cloud: "So, the body of spirits doesn't know anything huh?"
Kadaj: "I'm just a puppet after all"
Kadaj: "But once.... so where you!"
After this scene, Kadaj fuses with Jenova's head and says that he will show us his "Reuinion".
In FF7 Hojo said that the Reunion is meant for Jenova to be complete again. So this is Jenova.
And the phyisical manifistation that appears before Cloud is... surprise surprise, none other than Sephiroth.
He speaks to Cloud of their plans and goals. But Kadaj said "Mother will tell you" And from that, we can only assume that this was done by her powers, because she allowed for Sephiroth to return. And it would also seem that while they are still two individuals, they seem to share the same body. Reunion is about making Jenova complete after all.*/spoilers*
In FF7 the game, when they were close to the Northern Crater and the "Sephiroth ghost vanished in front of them", Cloud said this.
Reunion...
Tifa: Not Sephiroth!? You mean all this time it wasn't Sephiroth we've been
after?
Note that this whole time, they have been following only one person I can think of. The Sephiroth ghost. And according to Cloud and Tifa here, it would seem that it was not Sephiroth they were chasing after all, but Jenova.
After all, it is Jenova's ability to manipulate and control people, shapeshift, and whatnot. No where in the game was it explained how Sephiroth would somehow magically be able to do this as well.
And there is no reason to believe that Jenova would not manipulate Sephiroth, when we know that she definitely can.
In Nibelheim 5 years ago, Sephiroth started acting like a madman once he first got close to Jenova. He burnt down the village and pretty much acted exactly as Ifalna had described the Cetra race doing after being controlled by Jenova.
There's also another interesting thing that many people seem to overlook.
Sephiroth thought at first that he was a Cetra. But why was this implemented into the story?
Because the next time we see him, he already knows the truth. So why the deception? What was the point of Sephiroth thinking he was a Cetra, only that one time 5 years ago, when it seemingly didn't lead to anything in the story?
I think it's pretty obvious. Sephiroth needed to believe that Jenova was in the right to reclaim the planet. To believe that he was on a path of righteousness. Otherwise, winning him over wouldn't be that easy, concidering that Sephiroth was a "goodguy" and even a hero, up until that point.
But believing in Jenova's lies, and feeling this un natural longing to be with his mother and fullfill her plans, to take revange on the planet, just like the other three from Advent Children suddenly do, he went and got her from the reactor. And after this, he was no longer the same Sephiroth. That is exactly what Zack said when confronting him in the anime OVA, and Sephiroth had those cat like eyes. A testament to Jenova's controll over him.
Next, Cloud "killed him" and threw him and Jenova into the reactor.
But the next time you see "Sephiroth", he strangely doesn't remember who Cloud is.
To say that Sephiroth forgot all the missions him and Zack were sent out to in Before Crisis, and the person who "killed him" even after hearing his name, but remembering everything else, seems very farfetched to me. However, Jenova would not know Cloud or how he knows Sephiroth, because as much as she prows into his memories, all she would be able to find are his memories from after the incident. Reason being that Cloud surpressed his memories, and developed amnesia. This is why Jenova/Sephiroth seems convinced that Cloud is nothing but a puppet, created after the incident.
Also, the reason the Sephiroth "clones" (who aren't actually clones. Only people who went through the same procedure as those in SOLDIER, namely being exposed to Mako energy and Jenova cells, as Cloud explains on Disc 3) are being drawn to Sephiroth, is because they are being manipulated, just like Sephiroth was 5 years ago.
These people obviously have no affiliation with Jenova, but they all seem to look up to Sephiroth. He was famous after all. And most likely, all of these people are former SOLDIER, and that would explain why they care for him so much, and why every other SOLDIER is seemingly missing from the game.
This is why the person who broke Jenova free from the Shinra building had the appearance of Sephiroth. It got the word out that "Sephiroth had returned" and the cloaked men started to move towards the Northern Crater because of this. If they heard Jenova was back, I doubt they'd be as easy to manipulate. There were so many of them after all. So why not let them be drawn to Sephiroth instead? The end result is the same.
Jenova would get her "Reunion" and be able to take revenge on the planet for what it did to her.
Sephiroth's lower body was missing. And Jenova's body was missing it's head.
And then we see a boss like Bizzaro Sephiroth. It's probably the result of the Reunion. Sephiroth and Jenova "becoming one", as he said they would be.
But regarding the Shinra Building incident, it was obviously Jenova's doing, and not Sephiroth.
Is it just a coincidence that it happens now, after all these years, and just as Cloud comes into contact with Jenova? I highly doubt it. This happened right after Cloud got close to her, and as a result his head started hurting. After they were thrown into their cells, Cloud woke up with his prison door unlocked, and the blood trail starts from there. This makes me wonder if it was actually Cloud who did all of this. It's not impossible, concidering that Jenova could have him appears as Sephiroth if she wants to, *Advent Children spoilers* and also have a Masamune sword materialise out of nothing. (Shown in Advent Children) */spoilers*
The "Sephiroth ghost" who can shapeshift, fly and walk through walls once appeared as Tifa in the Nothern Crater to fool us into giving Cloud the black materia, and then vanished like a ghost. This makes it seem as if Jenova can make people see what is not really there. Most likely, it is usually a tattooed man in front of us. But instead of seeing him we see Sephiroth instead, or even Tifa. The same thing could have happened to Cloud in the Shinra building, for those around him who saw the Shinra President being stabbed to death.
And the fact that this "Sephiroth ghost" was so concerned about Aeris, the final remaining Cetra, enough to kill her before she could finish what she started, is also an indication of Jenova's will. The Cetra were the ones that eventually defeated her and put her in this state. She hates them, and is probably afraid of the same thing happening again, so she had Aeris killed.
There's a lot more to this, but basically I agree with your post. Sephiroth gaining all of these super powers, and Jenova being alive as we already know, and doing nothing when we know that she can, sounds far to vague and farfetched to me. *Advent Children spoilers* And Advent Children confirmed Jenova's will and her powers, and that she is the one pulling the strings, as many of us suspected she also did in FF7. */spoilers*

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#5
Posted 25 February 2006 - 05:35 PM
Largely, though, I completely agree with your points as well.
#6
Posted 25 February 2006 - 05:41 PM
But if Jenova could get out by herself, why did it happen right now out of all times? And what was the Sephiroth ghost doing there?
I think it was mentioned that he carried Jenova with him, but I'm not sure about that. But the way it was opened would probably not the biggest questionmark in the game's story.
Perhaps Jenova can't walk on her own in her current state, since all of her bodyparts seem to be carried by the tattooed men.
I like the idea of Cloud being involved here, but it's never really confirmed exactly what happened.
He wakes up with his cell door being open, and a trail of blood starting from there, leading towards Jenova's tank, and then up towards the roof. Sounds suspicious.

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#7
Posted 25 February 2006 - 05:55 PM
Largely, though, I completely agree with your points as well.
I would love to comment on this but I havn't seen Advent children yet and I can see so many spoilers it's stupid. However, I truley belive it is Cloud who kills everyone in the shinra building and lets out Jenova before returning to his cell... I've had done a couple of threads stating my theory and I will defend it to the death. The only thing I will say is that JENOVA didn't break cloud out of the cell... there would be no reason to, after all she has all these other 12 cloaked clones to use and to her, Cloud is just another one of them (Even if he does have a slightly stronger connection to Jenova than them). Jenova only learns about why minipulating Cloud is so useful later on when she realises his connection to the ancient (aries) and the black materia. If Jenova could break out of that cell on her own then she certainly wouldn't have worried much about Cloud...
If you want I'll write out my theory in full but I don't paticulaly want to read the rest of this thread in case of spoilers... sorry.
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#8
Posted 25 February 2006 - 06:18 PM

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#9
Posted 25 February 2006 - 06:38 PM
I don't have time to read the whole thing, but what I have read it seems your on the same page as me. The only thing you've definatly got wrong is you say soldier isn't the game but you have three oppotunities to fight them.
Soldier class C - Shinra building, after Jenova 'breaks out'
Soldier class B - When controlling Barret on disk 2 and trying to find the highwind
Soldier calss A - Midger, on the platforms up on your way to Hojo and after you defeat proud clod.
You have probably fought them before but without realising they are soldier. They have massive swords and use an annoying attack called Sword of Doom... press select and hover your selevt cursor over them to find out their name.
It doesn't change your theory much (if at all) but it's something a lot of people miss...
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#10
Posted 25 February 2006 - 06:44 PM
Remember that Cloud failed to get into SOLDIER, so instead he became a regular one with blue outfit?
Right now, the only SOLDIER members we know of are: Sephiroth, Zack and a person from Before Chrisis. I'll see if I can find her picture.
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The person to the right. If I remember correctly she is a former SOLDIER who defected to Avalanche for some reason.

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#11
Posted 25 February 2006 - 06:52 PM
And, I think someone said something about Jenova not speaking. She has one line and that is from Jenova LIFE after Aeris' um...death. The 'Sephiroth' who left began "because you are..." then the body part fell and morphed into a Jenova monster and when you defeat it, "you are a puppet." That would most likely be Jenova speaking then.
#12
Posted 25 February 2006 - 07:30 PM
Zack actually got a tattoo. #2.
And remember what Cloud said about the Sephiroth "clones".
Sephiroth wasn't that difficult. It was just the same procedure they use when
creating members of SOLDIER. You see, someone in SOLDIER isn't simply exposed
to Mako energy. Their bodies are actually injected with Jenova cells...... For
better or worse, only the strong can enter SOLDIER.
Basically, only the strong are able to enter SOLDIER, and only the strong are given a number. Cloud was weak, and so he wasn't given a number.
Every Sephiroth "clone" should be the same as a member of SOLDIER, and vice versa.
If the tattooed men are drawn to Sephiroth due to their Jenova cells, then so should the remaining SOLDIER members that were created even before this incident.
And I think Jenova speaks to Cloud in his dreams a few times in the game. He doesn't recognise the voice, so it should be hers.
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#13
Posted 25 February 2006 - 07:41 PM
1. WEAPON-
As we learned from Ifalna, WEAPON is a tool used by the Planet during the original Crisis. They were created for the sole purpose of stopping Jenova but they came too late and the Cetra had already sealed her away. The WEAPONs went into hibernation of sorts until the New Crisis in which we saw them rise out of Northern Crater. As said by Tifa, they saw WEAPON with Sephiroth and she made a guess that WEAPON was in the power of Sephiroth. Knowing Sephiroth's own will is simply an extention of Jenova's, it is okay to assume WEAPON was enthralled to Jenova. This would explain why when they were revived they didn't immediately go for their original intent of removing the most critical threat to the Planet iN Jenova. Now, there is a quote that WEAPON's alterior purpose is to "return everything to nothingness." But, wouldn't it make more sense that if the WEAPONs were free from Jenova's influence that they'd first set out to destroy Jenova then return the Planet to nothing?
This post has been edited by Sadistic Angel: 25 February 2006 - 07:43 PM
#14
Posted 25 February 2006 - 08:06 PM
I never really thought of it before, but SOLDIER members would all most likely be drawn to the Reunion in the same way as the cloaked men, because of the Jenova cells within them.
Anyway, on the Weapon subject, do you have any quote from when Tifa guessed that Weapon was in the power of Sephiroth? I don't remember that part.
And from what I know, Weapon didn't have anything to do with Jenova or Sephiroth. They emerge when there is a threat to the planet, and they destroy every possible threat so that the planet may heal itself without any interuptions.

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#15
Posted 25 February 2006 - 08:42 PM
Barret: Remember that huge monster that was with Sephiroth, at the bottom of he crater? Well it's up here now. They say it's some legendary monster from he past.
Tifa: Weapon... is protecting Sephiroth?
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And from Professor Gast's records on his talks with Ifalna, the WEAPON video:
Gast: "Ifalna, can you comment on the thing called 'Weapon'?"
Ifalna: "Yes, Professor. The one the Professor mistook for a Cetra... was
named Jenova. That is the 'crisis from the sky'. The Planet knew it had to
destroy the 'crisis from the sky'... You see, as long as Jenova exists, the
Planet will never be able to fully heal itself."
Gast: "Back then, Weapon was a weapon the Planet produced of its own will?"
Ifalna: "Yes, but... There is no record of Weapon ever being used. A small number of the surviving Cetra defeated Jenova, and confined it. The Planet produced Weapon... But it was no longer necessary to use it."
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So, WEAPON's original intent is to destroy Jenova as Jenova is the biggest threat to the Planet because her mere existence is a blight. Yet, it did absolutely nothing to her or Sephirotha nd simply set out on a rampage.

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