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Athrun
This topic is for any general game help in the Xeno series.
But before you post and ask, check and see if your problems are one of the problems listed here below.

And if anyone wishes to add a certain strategy on how to beat a certain boss that people tend to have problems with, feel free to post it in here and I'll add a link to it below my own solution.

Click on the FAQ's to view them in a new window.

How to beat Mintia FAQ (By Demonwing)

I'm going to add more to this later, but if anything needs to be added or I missed something, let me know.

How to beat the Auto tech "mothership" boss that appears inside of the Elsa, just after Ziggy and MOMO join us.

Well at this point you had better set most characters long range Techs on Hi-Speed. You can do that in the Tech upgrade menu. Then assign it to one of the buttons. Also upgrade the recovery time for that tech, to its maximum level. (Which is only two upgrades.) Then if you have enough tech points left, upgrade the strength of the Tech.
Long Range attacks are the techs used with the Triangle button.
R-Cannon and Spell Ray for example.
And transfer MOMO's healing spell to Shion and the rest. Its cheaper, but heals just as much as Shions healing spell.
Jumping in the AGWS at seperate times seems to work better than everyone using them at the same time. That way one can focus on healing Kosmos as the other attacks.
Once the boss gets to 500 HP, you have to kill it before it's next turn, or it'll repair itself. So, I suggest getting in your AGWS with Chaos and use KOS-MOS R-Cannon on it.

How to beat the boss inside of the huge Gnosis.

First off, make sure you don't miss to steal the Commanders Crest item.
Use Shion's Queens Kiss skill for that. Its at the bottom of her skill tree. The only red skill she has.
If you miss that item here, you won't be able to get it again, anywere else.
Its one of the best items in the game, if not the best.
Your main concern here are the Gargoyle. The two things on his side. Take them out as soon as possible, and always have a character on standby ready to heal if needed.
As soon as you take those Gargoyles out, the boss will become stronger, but not so strong that you can't deal with him. The biggest threat, the Hell's Flash, is now gone.

How to beat Tiamat. (The boss in the Church inside the Encephilon on old Miltia.)

The main thing about Tiamat is to never attack him with Shion or Jr. unless you think you're about to finish him off.
You need to deliver the finishing blow with both Shion and Jr, but I suggest using Shion first, as Tiamat will then lose the ability to use Ruined Earth.
If you attack him with Junior or Shion before finishing him off with either of the two, he will do a counter boost.
A good strategy is to use the Boost 1 Ether spell to up your speed advantage.
And make sure you transfered the Medicia All skill to your two team mates.
Demonwing
The drill passport

Is there any way to get it at a later part in the game? dont say gameshark unless you can tell me the code. hope i didnt completely miss it unless there is a code
Denim
Go back to Woglinde, and go to the bridge that Virgil blew up. There should be a body of a worker there. Talk to it, and you'll get the pasport.
Demonwing
QUOTE (Denim @ Apr 22 2005, 02:27 PM)
Go back to Woglinde, and go to the bridge that Virgil blew up. There should be a body of a worker there. Talk to it, and you'll get the pasport.
*

umm, can you lead me to it, im kinda lost
currently at: AWGS Hangar in wonglinde


edit: yay i found it. it was a small shine on the ground, like a sparkling thing, and there wasnt a body near it, EVS removes em
Eidolon
I have another useful way on beating Tiamat. This strategy is really for those who can’t stand that Ruined Earth attack Tiamat does. This is the only way I beat him.

Alright, before you go into this battle, make sure you have a lot of DX Medic Kits. You may want to get like 50 or so, because I only had 24 and I ran out of them close to the end. But anyway, when you enter the battle, just start off by attacking him a bit. You’re going to want Shion to be killed, this way it prevents Tiamat from using Ruined Earth. Anyway, using Jr. and Chaos, start-attacking Tiamat until he uses one of his moves. If your health isn’t too low after his attack, just attack him again; otherwise heal yourself with the DX Medic Kits. Through most of the battle you will be doing that combination of healing and attacking. When you get to where he has like 1000 hp, revive Shion and put her in her A.G.W.S unit right after you revive her. If her AGWS gets low on health just take her out and heal her. Anyway, by this time he should only have about 1000hp- 2000hp left. If Tiamat starts using the Ruined Earth just let it kill Shion again, but at the same time make sure Chaos and Jr. are themselves. Anyway, after healing Chaos and Jr., just start attacking him until he is defeated.
Xerno
Well, that was unexpected: after having won 6 or 7 Xenocard Tournaments I was rewarded with a promotional card, "Swim Suit Shion" (--> they nicely misspelled "swimsuit" tongue.gif ). I was still missing 2 cards in my collection, I thought I'd find them in one of the Booster Packs sooner or later. So, uhm... now I'm still missing card #9. Can that one also be won in a Tournament, or is it in one of the Booster Packs unsure.gif ? I don't feel like playing several more Tournaments for no reason.

Edit: Hmmm, never mind: I played another Tournament (because i had nothing better to do tongue.gif ) and I was rewarded with... "Swim Suit MOMO" (Oh no, MOMO in a seductive pose, the horror blink.gif ).
dante_sparda53
ive heard that its inside the encephalon but exactly where is it and what does it do? any help would be greatly appreciated.
Athrun
Segment Address 5
-----------------
In the Encephalon. If you're going through it the first time, first get to the
point where Shion enters the sewers. If you walk up, you'll see a woman. Beyond
her is a big crate. If you're going through the place through the EVS, first
follow Jr.'s path. When you've entered the Space-Time distortion, you'll be
in the forest. Now go right and you'll be at Shion's path. Backtrack your way
through. After you leave sewers, go up. I'm not sure if the woman's still
there. But you should be able to find the crate. Blow it open. Go down the
manhole opened up and follow the path. Blow up the door behind the monster.
[Double Buster(2x tech possible, Square-Circle-Circle or Triangle-Circle-
Circle)]

I hope that helps. ^^,

If you have Commanders Crest, extract the abilities from both Double Buster and Commanders Crest, and put them on your characters.
A very usefull ability that made the battle system a bit more fun for me.
dante_sparda53
thank you very much but i have a question. i went into the encephalon through the EVS but i cant go anywhere else. when i get to the end of the first part with the searchlights i dont see anything that helps me go on. what do i do?
Xerno
If you are where I think you are (there's only one place with searchlights that I know of), you just need to go to the far right of the screen, and then go all the way down. It looks like a dead end, but it's actually a bridge which you can walk under. Then the game moves you to the next screen. But as I said, I'm not sure if that's what you were asking, so if it's something else, let me know and I'll see if I can help happy.gif .
Demonwing
Mintia-
I used this to beat Mintia and get both diamonds later on. I had Jr, MOMO, and Shion. Jr had bravesoul. I kept MOMO behind JR. MOMO and Shion were healing as necessary. After you hit Mintia 3 times with jr, she only counters with the hp suck attack, so use Hemlock when you think it will happen. Keep using jr's powered up boosts as Mintia counter boosts with suck hp, which will do no damage and make Bravesoul maxed. At the beginning, you should also steal both items, Transfer Jr.s Psycho Pocket to MOMO and Shion

Any suggestions/corrections/complaints? Btw, i was level 16 with all when i used this strategy and i won first try, it was so I could morph both Gigas into Diamonds with Dark Scepter

Mintia has a high speed, she usually hits after each character. Since she flies, Bravesoul wouldn't help KOSMOS get a strong attack. She counters jr first with dark star. This moves him to the back row, but doesn't work since MOMO is behind him. Second time, she counters with Dark Snake which causes attack poison. It is deadly, so have MOMO or Shion, whichever has their turn next, to use a cure all (antidote doesnt work) After, she just keeps countering him with Bibo (the eyeball thingy)'s draining attack which brings his hp to one and heals Mintia what damage it caused him, but since he has 1 hp by Helmlock, it won't do anything. Ill draw a turn graph to illustrate how the boosting works



Jr.--------Mintia--------MOMO-----------Mintia-----------Shion

Jr attacks, Mintia counter boosts using the suck which wont do anything, the graph then looks like this

Mintia(counter)--------Mintia--------MOMO-----------Mintia-----------Shion

While she is countering, doing nothing, use one of Jr.s boost which you accumulated by Shion and MOMO.

Mintia(finishing counter)------------(Jr. boosted)--------Mintia--------MOMO-----------Mintia-----------Shion, or basically the first scenario over again,

Jr.--------Mintia--------MOMO-----------Mintia-----------Shion

So until you run out of boosts, you can just keep using your best physical Tech Attack on her, possibly with Crest and Double Buster if you have. The bravesoul will power up both the physical attack and the Techs, so after you do 3 or 4 techs, you can do in a row with buster, she will probably die before she has a chance


Just make sure at the beginning of the battle, Steal both items, and boost Jr. a few times, use Dandyism and Psycho Arm *AFTER* hit with dark snake counter attack and cured, so the cure all doesnt make the good statuses go away.

Item/Character uses-
Hemlock-puts characters hp to 1. Used to power up bravesoul and to make her sucking counter ineffective.

Bravesoul-powers up physical attacks as your hp gets lower (hemlock), and Jr's long range ethers are mostly physical.

(Commanders) Crest-stolen from Gargoyle, gives one extra ap per turn, so 5 per turn. Used in conjunction with Double Buster.

Double Buster-Allows using two tech attacks at once, extremely useful with the commanders crest. Gotten from some segment address in encephalon i think.

Jr- Used cause he has physical attacks that are long range, since Mintia flies, and Bravesoul powers it up. That, and he is a boy so Mintia counters.

MOMO-taught her boost1 from Shion, and she needs to be in this battle either way. She can steal with Magic Caster, or with Psycho Pocket transmitted.

Shion/KOS-MOS-either one works fine, I simply used Shion because her agility/speed was higher then KOS-MOS' at the time. She was used for healing and boosting, and she can steal with either Queen's Kiss or Jr.s Psycho Pocket.

Any more questions?



Btw, this is meant for people who want either dark scepter or the craft apron or the penguin rod pretty quickly. I did this at level 16, while most people come back and do it at 100 with Erde Kaiser =p


Because you usually run out of SP pretty quick, getting the Craft Apron early on is useful. Scepter can be used to get quick money, and Penguin rod is MOMO's best rod (to that point at least) and it inflicts (b?) and G types with slow.


Great Joe FAQ coming-perhaps tomorrow
Bodyparts
ey man. i need some help on this game. im at the part where you enter that room in the church, were ur in kos mos conciounse or howeva u spell that. lol.

its that big red dude. i always die on him. so how do u beat this foo? tongue.gif
Evilbob
Ahh, this one is hard. Well, I'l assume you have a party of Jr., Shion, and chaos. Here's what sucks about this boss: it has that nasty habit of boosting so it goes after Shion. Yeah, that attack sucks bad. In effect, this is two bosses, because you have to defeat it twice. Now, what I did was use chaos's and Shion's AGWS until the boss got down to 1000 HP, then took Shion out to finish him off. Because even if you do kill him, if you aren't using Shion or Jr., nothing happens. He just restores his strength and keeps beating you down.

So, on the plus side, if Shion kills off her part, when he restores his strength, he won't use that stupid attack he usually does. Then you just have to finish him off again with Jr., which is a little easier.

However, the mechs rarely last very long, so I doubt you'll bring him down to 1000 before he crushes you. Plus, you need to be able to boost so you can boost if Shion's turn is before the boss's. On that note, NEVER ATTACK WITH SHION! He'll just counter boost, and it won't be pretty. Chaos and Jr can usually handle the attacking, with Shion as the healer. As long as the boss doesn't get to take a turn after Shion, you should last long enough to whittle him down and have her attack him.

Let me know if you need any other help with him, because it's been a while since I fought him.
Bodyparts
holy #####. i have to fight this dude twice? #####. lol i think i can do that. ill try it later.
Evilbob
Not exactly twice. He doesn't get back up to full strength. Of course, my first time I had to technically fight him three tmes because I didn't know I had to kill him with a specific person.
Preistess_Sanzo
alright i've been playing this game since a few months back and usually i'm farthuer then i should be right now.

so anyway i'm suk on the big robot thingy that you fight on the ship after you get chaos, ziggy and momo, i cannot beat that thing for the life of me its so gosh darn hard...

i need major help ^.^;;;; sad.gif wacko.gif
Xerno
You mean the Mothership (as people seem to call that boss) on board the Elsa? There's a strategy on how to beat that boss in the main help topic, right here (it's in the 1st post): Main Xeno-Help Topic

If you need any further help with it, you can post your questions in there, that's what the topic is for happy.gif .
Cresi
Its been a while since I posted any help for xenosaga but I need some help


Xenosaga 1:


. i am fighting Albedo not him as the last boss but him on proto mercaba or where ever. and I am ahving a difficult time defeating him as well to the monster that i must defeat after him. [Not his A.W.G.S]
Xerno
QUOTE (Hoodie)
Xenosaga 1:


i am fighting Albedo not him as the last boss but him on proto mercaba or where ever. and I am having a difficult time defeating him as well to the monster that i must defeat after him. [Not his A.W.G.S]

Well, I'm not very good at helping out with bosses, but I thought those bosses were both disappointingly easy xP . Of course, I had been improving my characters' techs a lot, had ridiculously high levels (lvl. 50: I wanted chaos' lvl. 50 tech... which suckies, by the way) and powerful healing Ethers. If you take the time to work on these things, those boss fights should become quite easy. But that will take some time... but there is another way.

If you want to finish the game faster and just want to see the ending right now, then you should get Shion's most powerful summon: Erde Kaiser. You can only use it once per battle, but it deals 9999 damage, which instantly beats Albedo and heavily damages the next boss (Sophie Pethos). It shouldn't take long to finish off Sophie Pethos with your AGWS =) .

You can get Erde Kaiser by finding the Robot Parts and bringing them to the Professor in the Kukai Foundation (next to the AGWS shop). If you need further help with finding the Robot Parts, just post the ones you can't find and I (or someone else) will tell you where to find them ^^ .
-Blazing Knight-
I need help in Xenosaga II its the one boss when your insdie of MOMO's brain... The thing that comes out of the other things body.
Xerno
QUOTE (-Blazing Knight-)
I need help in Xenosaga II its the one boss when your inside of MOMO's brain... The thing that comes out of the other things body.

Hmmm, I should replay this game again sometime... I don't remember this boss at all. But according to the faq, there are only 2 bosses in that stage. And going by your description, it's definitely not the second one. So you must be talking about the boss with the odd name "Level 4", right? This is what the faq says:

QUOTE
Your enemy is called Level 4. Its weak zone is CCBB, so you need two people. One does CC, then BOOST the next character which will do BB. It can also summon out the <Infected U.R.T.V.>. I recommend using KOS-MOS to stock (don't forget to cast Thunder Sword on her to attain attack property boss is weak to), while Ziggy and chaos can either heal or initiate the CC, then quickly BOOST up KOS-MOS which then can use BB, and with enough STOCK, she can use 'CIRCLE' attack as well, and since the CIRCLE attacks after the weak zone break through, it does lots of damage. One CIRCLE attack after CCBB can do around 900 damage alone. Heal if you need to, if he does summon out enemies, kill it with CC and it goes toward the BOOST anyway. Continue this and Level 4 will be killed in no time.

There's also a more in-depth description of this strategy in the faq, but it's quite long, so if you want to read that one too, check the boss faq here: Xenosaga faqs index
There's only one boss faq on that list, you can't miss it. Just look up the boss "Level 4" in the boss faq.

One thing the faq doesn't seem to have mentioned is the characters' levels. I personally think it's best to have your characters at least level 20 at this point of the game. Hope that helps =) . If not, I'm sure someone else here will be able to help you out with it ^^ .
-Blazing Knight-
Ok I beat that guy now Im at the winter place in MOMO's barin- What do I have to do there?
Athrun
QUOTE (-Blazing Knight- @ Sep 26 2005, 06:10 PM)
Ok I beat that guy now Im at the winter place in MOMO's barin- What do I have to do there?

Go back to where you previously fought the boss when it was summer, and you'll fight a new boss.
Xerno
QUOTE (-Blazing Knight-)
Ok I beat that guy now Im at the winter place in MOMO's brain- What do I have to do there?

Are you still at the start of the Winter area (the gas station)? You basically have to go to the same place as you did in the Summer area. If I remember right the place is almost the same as it was during Summer. I believe there are a few new obstacles due to the snow, but nothing too hard.

Once you cross the tree log over that small chasm (it's the same as in Summer) and move to the next screen, you'll get the chance to save. After that, keep moving forward for a little bit longer and you'll get to fight the last boss of Disc 1 (yep, you've almost finished the first disc, but the second disc is quite a bit longer).
-Blazing Knight-
Oh cool thanks both of you! Though a vew more questions x.x; One whos the next boss I have to fight? Two is he harder then Level 4? Three is there any hints you can give about the boss and his/her weak points?


Your guys are a big help! Im happy Im asking all these questions becouse I suck at games. x.x;
Xerno
~ For those who haven't played Episode 2: spoilers ahead ~



QUOTE (-Blazing Knight-)
One whos the next boss I have to fight?

The next boss happens to be Albedo himself =) . That's all I'm saying =P .

QUOTE (-Blazing Knight-)
Two is he harder then Level 4?

I think so, yes. I didn't even remember Level 4, but I know Albedo gave me some trouble the first time I fought him. Although if your characters are at a decent level, it probably won't be too hard.

QUOTE (-Blazing Knight-)
Three is there any hints you can give about the boss and his/her weak points?

I'm not sure about his weak points, but at first you can't damage him at all. He'll block all attacks with his arms. And thus you'll... uhm, have to "break" his arms (as in, shatter them Ô_o ). As far as I know you can only do this with characters who use piercing attacks. I know Ziggy and Jr. both use piercing attacks, so you can break Albedo's arms with them. Once his arms are gone, you can damage him, but his arms do regenerate after a while, so you'll have to break them again when that happens.
Evilbob
To add to that, once he regenerates several times, he won't be able to anymore, so you can pound the crap out of him then.

He isn't too hard, but you may want to have some healing items saved up just in case, because he can do some damage if you aren't paying attention.
-Blazing Knight-
Yea Im at Albedo now. Thats sad I do like 11 DMG on him and he dose like 20 to 100. Im finding a problem with him hes being a pain in the bottom and Im sick and tired of dieing to him. x.x; I think I should get more S.Points like around 5,000 and fill em up and then fight him. x.x;
Evilbob
QUOTE (-Blazing Knight- @ Sep 27 2005, 05:54 PM)
Yea Im at Albedo now. Thats sad I do like 11 DMG on him and he dose like 20 to 100. Im finding a problem with him hes being a pain in the bottom and Im sick and tired of dieing to him. x.x; I think I should get more S.Points like around 5,000 and fill em up and then fight him. x.x;
*


That little after you ripped off his arms? Once you bust his arms off, you can do the breaks and do a decent amount of damage. If that's how it is after breaks, you just need some level up time....
Athrun
His zone weakness is BCCB, so you need to BOOST up another character to do CB after you input BC. In the beginning, no matter how hard you try, you can hardly damage him. But do continue to attack him, after a while, there will be a message saying his arms are being destroyed. Now you can really damage him.
Do remember to Rare Steal him, you will get a new Double Tech awakening book.
Continue to attack and heal if you need to. Do not waste anytime and attack him with BCCB as much as you can. He will regenerate his arms in a while.
-Blazing Knight-
Yea I broke his arms and got him down to 1,000 life then he started killing me badly. sad.gif
Evilbob
If it makes you feel better, he did decimate my entire collection of healing items when I tried to take him on. So just try to level up some and get more healing items. He can be beaten, but admittedly he's rather tough.
Xerno
Lets see... I've got a savefile of that boss fight, so I'll let you know which characters I used, and how well prepared they were:

KOS-MOS: Level 26 ~ Healing Ethers: Medica 2 & Medica All ~ Equiped Skills: STR+2, EATK+2 & Swimsuit (--> this one is quite useful, it boosts your attack power. KOS-MOS' swimsuit is only available if you loaded your Episode 1 Clear Data at the start of the game).

Ziggy: Level 25 ~ Healing Ethers: Medica 2 & Medical All ~ Equiped Skills: STR+2, VIT+2 & Swimsuit (--> once again, Ziggy's swimsuit can only be gotten by loading the Episode 1 Clear Data at the start of the game).

Jr. : Level 25 ~ Healing Ethers: Medica 2 & Medica All (yes, all three have these, it makes things much easier) ~ Equiped Skills: STR+2, VIT+2 & Swimsuit (--> this one can be gotten in GS Campaign #7. It's the one where you have to put up advertising posters in the city).

With this party, I found Albedo to be quite easy. The levels may seem a bit high, though. Level 20+ should be good enough. And if you don't have KOS-MOS' and Ziggy's swimsuits, that's OK. They're not a must to have, but they do make things a bit easier. Hope that helps =) .
-Blazing Knight-
I don't have a Swimsuit at all. I just played and got him down to 600 life but sadly died from his stupid aura attack. PLUS I don't have Medica 2 & Medical All so I have toget that. :*(
FaytLeingod
Yeah i know how you feel. It took me along time to kill albedo. The one thing that made it so that it was really easy was to train in the one part just before you get to albedo. once all the enemies are gone just come back the way you came in and they come back. just keep training there until your statified.
Also with the boss itself make sure you steal the awakening I. Its a really good ether i think for someone. i dont remeber. so thats it. Hope that helps.
-Blazing Knight-
Yea I beat Albedo with my brothers help - I asked my brother for help and he did all of it :\ I never got to fight, theres a good side to this becouse If I did I would get my a** wooped badly! Rubedo died sadly so he got no exp or anything... Besides that I'm very happy. "I would have died if I didn't get that information it was usefull but yet not usefull." my brother said - I have no idea what that means.
-Blazing Knight-
I need help on the second disc. Im at the place were you have to balance the wait of the plat form what on earth do I do?
Xerno
QUOTE (-Blazing Knight-)
I need help on the second disc. Im at the place were you have to balance the wait of the plat form what on earth do I do?

Are you talking about that huge glass platform in the Dammerüng (the place where you're only controlling Shion, with Allen tagging along)? It may look a bit confusing, yes (I don't like most of Xenosaga's puzzles, they're often just annoying xP ). I'll quote from a faq what you need to do here:

QUOTE
You see a large glass sheet sitting atop some crates with a staircase leading up. To the right of the stairs, blow up the crate. Then, blow up the two crates to the left of the stairs. Now, climb the stairs and step on the top-left corner of the glass sheet. It should tilt down. Head to the bottom-right corner of the platform and it shold tilt again, this time blowing up a crate to reveal a chest. Follow the chest back to the top-left corner of the platform and grab it for Decoder 15. Go back up on the platform and step on the top-left corner yet again so it tilts. Make your way to the bottom-right of the sheet and onto the catwalk there, then through the door.

Getting Decoder #15 is optional, but it's best to get it anyway (because most of the Segment Addresses contain Secret Keys to unlock some of the skills on the Skills List) ^^ .
-Blazing Knight-
Yea I read the same thing like that on walkthrough though they made it harder to under stand xD. Thanks I will try when I have time again.
-Blazing Knight-
x.x; I need help again on the one boss that uses two swords and a gun(Its a girl.). I don't know anything at this point of the game >.>; My head hurts and I feel like throwing up biggrin.gif So someone anyone! Tell me anything you know and everything you know about beating her please!
Xerno
QUOTE (-Blazing Knight-)
x.x; I need help again on the one boss that uses two swords and a gun(Its a girl.).

Ah, you have the honor of getting beaten around by Orgulla (if you'll excuse me, I adore her xD ). I used to be stuck at her myself, and this is the advice I was given:

QUOTE (Hechizero)
Well, I equiped all my party with the Ice Veil but if you have the Ether you can use that one also. Basically when she transforms is that she become difficult because in her default mode she doesn't deal too much damage. I used Jr in the party because he has the inverse effect in his attacks; while the others attacks trigger her second transformation Jr attacks return her to the default one.

The problem is when she user her ability to sacrifice HP and increase her Attack and later she uses her boosts to make a devastating combo. What I did is that I defended (Stocked) with most of my characters and attaked usually to build the Boost gaugue. Then after some turns she will suffer a bug in her mode and all her stats drop, in that moment I used my Stocks+Boosts to give her a lot of damage.

Try using characters that have a decent amount of HP. That's why I used Shion instead of MOMO as a healer. Oh.... and Ziggy is the man in this figth, he deals a lot of damage to her with each attack.

To explain a bit more about her mode switching: you've probably noticed how her eyes sometimes turn from green to blue, and her sword changes along with it. Those are her two different "modes". The green one is the easier one (in my opinion), and by attacking her with Jr., you can force her back into this form (it doesn't work that well, though. You mustn't attack her with anyone else at this point, because the others' attacks will just make her eyes flash blue again, and you want to keep them green. I personally don't bother with it, it doesn't seem to work very often).

Although when you've dealt a good amount of damage she starts boosting quite a bit, and I actually found her gun attack several times in a row to be quite devestating. At this point, I let her turn to blue, as she doesn't use the gun attack in her blue-eyed form (of course, she does make use of her more powerful one-character-hit attacks then).

She can be very hard if you're not well prepared, so if you really can't get past her, you might have to level up a bit first.
-Blazing Knight-
Can you tell me what level my people should be?
Xerno
Well, I just loaded my savefile of the Orgulla boss fight (yes, I've got a savefile of that boss fight too xP ), and my characters were around lvl. 27 - 29. I also did a quick battle with her to see how well it went... and it went quite bad, actually Ô_o . I fought her for more than half an hour, used every single HP and EP recovery item in my inventory, as well as all the revival items. Then one character died, and I had no means of reviving him anymore, but I was able to finish her off with the other two ;-) . So it is possible to beat her with these levels, but it's going to be really hard if you don't have much healing items to back you up.

Also, I noticed something I mentioned in the previous post wasn't completely correct (I've edited it now): I mentioned that you can keep Orgulla in her green-eyed form by attacking her with Jr., but actually it seems she will change modes anyway. Jr.'s attacks can force her back into her green-eyed mode while she's in her blue-eyed mode, though. But it doesn't seem to work that well (she rarely responds to Jr.'s attacks. But if you want to try it, don't attack her with anyone else, her eyes need to keep flashing green, and the others' attacks make her eyes flash blue again).

Some things I have noticed during the battle: if you "air" her when she's in her Manes form (blue eyes), you can deal quite a bit of damage if you keep combo-ing her while she's aired (Manes seems to be quite vulnerable to aired attacks). Also, it's best to air her either way (no matter what form she's in), because she can still counter-boost when she's downed and will get up again, and ruin your chained attacks (plus deal unneeded damage).

And another thing: Manes uses a lot of ice-based attacks, so using the Ether "Ice Veil" is very helpful, because it reduces the damage of all her ice attacks. And she already deals enough damage as it is, so reducing the damage of her ice attacks can be a real lifesaver (the downside is that you'll have to waste turns casting Ice Veil, and it loses effect quite fast. So it's best to make use of Ice Veil when you've got a few turns to spare).

Oh, and I used KOS-MOS, Jin and Jr., but that's not really necesarry. Just use your most powerful characters, you'll need them ;-) .

Edit: I've just noticed that you can reduce the damage of most of her attacks by equipping the skills Blade Coat (reduces slashing attacks, and a lot of her attacks deal slashing damage), Spear Coat (reduces piercing attacks, I think she only has one attack like that, though) and Ice Coat (reduces her ice attacks, you won't need to use Ice Veil if you have this equipped).

I found the battle much easier with those skills equipped. Of course, I also leveled up while trying to get the skills, so my characters were now at level 31 - 33. I didn't have to use any healing items either, the healing Ethers were enough (I did use a few EP recovery items, of course). So if you're still stuck, I suggest getting those Coat skills and equip your characters with them, it makes the boss fight considerably easier =) .
-Blazing Knight-
My brothers comeing today so were going to try to kill her. Wish us luck 'cuz were going to need it. x.x;
Athrun
Well you're much further than me, since I haven't even started playing Disc 2 yet due to my PS2 lens being stupid. So I haven't gotten that far yet, but I hope to be able to in a few weeks.
But good luck to you.
-Blazing Knight-
Ok Im at the part were I set off the timer and have to fight that girl. x.x; Any ideas you can give me on how to kill her?
Xerno
You mean Pellegri (Margulis' assistent)? She's not that hard: I fought her with E.S. Asher and E.S. Zebulun. Put Jin in the E.S. Asher (as you probably know, you can choose the 2nd pilot of an E.S.), then you can use the special attack Wings of Light: this deals major damage to Pellegri's E.S. Just keep using that special attack, while you use the E.S. Zebulun to heal (you can use all the healing Ethers that MOMO has, because she's the main pilot of the Zebulun).

It shouldn't be too hard to beat her this way, if your E.S. are somewhat decent, it'll probably be easy this way =) .
-Blazing Knight-
Oh and when I fought that one girl she never brought out her servent O.o; She just made one huge sword and I used Shion, Ziggy, and MOMO.
Armaros
Anybody here fought Phobos Rigas and beat him yet? I keep on getting decimated about half way through the battle, so if anyone has some tips for me I'd sure appreciate it.
-Blazing Knight-
Im not sure... Is he/she on the first Xenosaga or second? And if the boss is on the second Xenosaga what disc?
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