For me, it's an absolute tie between Kuja and Kefka. Kuja manipulated and caused the deaths of hundreds, and finally managed to blow an entire planet with his power. Kefka....well, nuff said.


NO SEPHIROTH!!!!!

Easy: Kefka. He kills and destroys because he likes it... : "What fun is destruction if no precious lives are lost?".

Sephiroth is not really evil, IMO he's a victim of Hojo's lies and Jenova's manipulation. Hojo is pure evil though, he's second on my list of evil FF villains. Rufus is a only semi-evil, and does seem disappointed in that final scene when he sees the city falling apart and realises what he's been doing *sniff* .

And if you believe Rinoa is Ultimecia, which seems rather obvious, than I wouldn't consider her evil either. The most evil sorceress is Adel, and that's probably because the way sorceresses are generally despised and mistreated in FVIII's universe. I think she's just getting revenge on humankind for the way they generally treat sorceresses.

And now, Kuja IMO is not evil at all. I feel sorry for him. He's caused a lot of destruction, but not because he's evil. If you want to blame anyone for his actions, blame Garland: that guy deserved to be kicked of a high cliff by the person who's life he ruined.

Seymour is a little complex. I consider him semi-evil, considering his rather sad past that caused him to get lost in his desire for more power and recognition from the other races. And Shuyin, ahem, is just a confused teenager with a bad temper

Incorrect. Garland made him, but he hated Garland. Perhaps, if he had followed Garland's orders, he would've been just a tool, but he was so full of hate, he wanted power at any cost. Garland has noble intentions, whereas Kuja just wants power for himself and to make the world his kingdom. And, again, he'll do anything to get it done.

So, I have to say he's evil.

Kefka, hands down. That guy creeped me out. All he wants are power and destruction. He wakes up KNOWING that he's going to do evil things and absolutely loves it.

Besides, he's a clown...

Garland made him as a tool of war and destruction, which is a horrible task. But it gets worse, after all the things Kuja had already done for him, it turns out Garland had no intention of rewarding him for his loyalty, instead he was to be discarded like trash and be replaced by Zidane. Kuja knew about his replacement by Zidane, so of course he got extremely frustrated and wanted to get his revenge on Garland. He says it himself: he wanted a more powerful eidolon than Garland's, because he wanted to kill Garland for the way he ruined his "life", which I wouldn't call much of a life, to begin with. As for Garland's "noble" intentions, creating several soulless Gnomes just as vessels to revive the ancients of Terra in, isn't what I call noble. His intentions of reviving Terra's ancients might have been noble, but the way he went about it definitely wasn't. He's a monster, sacrificing so many lives (including those of people from Gaia, not just those soulless Gnomes). He deserved to get kicked off that cliff IMO. And after all that, Kuja didn't get much of a revenge, seeing as Garland still managed to let him know that he would be dead soon, at which point Kuja completely snapped and wanted the world gone... completely. But in the ending we get to see what Kuja was really like, he saved Zidane and his friends. I'll never consider Kuja evil, but Garland is a rotten meanie .

enough said...he's a clown...therefore...he is the ultimate scariness...he just wanted destruction and death...and for no ultimate reason? there is the reason...that is pure evil... *shivers*

Kefka. He is a transvestite clown. Enough said really. Although he had basically the same plan as every single villian. To destroy the world. What made him the best was that he turned himself into a god. That was quite the spectacle, especially on 16 bits. =)

Destroying the world was another thing he actually manages to do, unlike other villians. That already puts him on top. He poisions Doma's water too.

Simple, Kefka!
He just enjoyed destroying lives and didn't he even screw up the world? He was just creepy. He was also pretty much a god at the way end.
He was a funny clown too, 'nuff said.

Cait Sith for sure.

And I'll move this topic to FF general.
I shall add my reply later.

Yevon, he creates a monsterous shell around him, and makes people think of him as some sort of God to "save" them from "sin", I cant believe he wasnt mentioned yet!

No way! Aeris for sure.... coming between Cloud and Tifa like that

LoL Kefka period xD He is a big fat joker, not to mention a clown too. I remember during an occasion when you control Leo. I see Kefka laughing in the screen, then I purposely went to the inn and sleep, then went back there, that #### was still laughing! A dedicated clown who even deprives death as fun and wants more power for destruction. A very bad villain indeed X_x;;

Yeah dude, what a whore


I mean, *ahem*, Kefka, he just reeks evilness, he is a clown and he laughs silly, in snes sound its just creepy

kefka all the way. that guy was evil just for the hell of itm when just about all the other vilians from the series at least head some type of alterior motives. hell, kefka even poisoned a whole castle's water suply just for the hell of it.

It is pretty obvious, no? Kefka will always be most villianous. I am also to think that the newer games get worse and worse with villians. They need to make a purely insane and vicious villian that goes beyond Kefka.

Kefka. He's just creepy, and insane. And.\ once again.....he's a clown....

I think you're completely right and share your opinion, but on the other hand, he didn't say anything as for why he does it :s

Yevon was evil only in the regard that HE created Sin. He ceased to be truly Yu Yevon at that point, and only lived to summon. He was neither good nor evil. And, it was not Yu Yevon who started the Yevon religion. That was Bevelle. They feared him, and so they spread his teachings. That was Yunalesca's whim.

And no, you can't blame Kuja on Garland. If you blame other people for what you do, you're stupid. If you're father raped you when you were a child, you aren't free to murder thousands. Kuja was disgarded by Garland, and set out to become ruler of both Gaia and Terra. He wanted all power, not just power that rivaled Garland's.

He's evil.

Hmmm, I disagree. You can't blame a child for his twisted way of thinking if it was caused by a childhood trauma, they often don't realise what they're doing, the only thing that usually still matters is revenge. It's the father who needs to be punished and the child that needs help. The same goes for Kuja, he was raised as a tool of war and treated as trash --> bad combination. Of course he'll want revenge, but power too: it was the reason he was created for in the first place. Besides, after being treated like trash, he'll want to prove to the world what he's capable of, hence why he wants so much power. But we get to see what the real Kuja is like in the ending when he saves Zidane and his friends. I personally don't think Kuja is evil at all, he's a victim... poor Kujie .

As i've recently began playing ffx again i have two name of evil ppl.. not villains though..

Bickson, lol yeh luca goers captain, hes a bad guy, and will never change! grr makes me wonna fight him... never had the chance though... oh well wining 12-0 to him on blitzball will have to do..

and Jecht... how could he treat his own son like that... laughing at him by missing his kick on the ball, making fun of him... geez...
i know most of the bad memories tidus holds of him aint true, but the one that shows before tidus performs jecht shot was though...

as for true vilains.. and now outside FF X.. yeh maybe Kuja or sephiroth.. even though its hard to take ppl whos head is bigger then body seriously.. lol

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Kefka was pathetic....

And as for FF Villians, most of them are just that. Completely utterly pathetic. FFVI lacked the whole "anti-villian" Thing (as in, I didn't care about how evil and mean kefka was...the more I think it, the more that game fails to grab people). Of course, I may just say that because I'm spoiled with greater villians. But not from the FF Series. The FF series is quite pathetic when it comes to villians.

We get a transexual who wants to blow up the world (for, what, fear of death?)
Another Transexual who wants to become the final aeon, and blow up the world (Free the world through death, the only thing that wasn't cliche about the character was his design)
Then theres FFVIII, which has some random villian that appeared from nowhere (don't debate me on this.
And FFVII, whose villian hardly makes sense, and full of plot holes.
And the previous? Don't get me started.

Lets just say compared to greats like Luca Blight (suikoden II) and Odessa (wild arms 2, depth whore ), FF really, REALLY, has some weak villians.

Kefka, no doubt. He was totally psychotic; he cared nothing of the lives of others, destroyed a planet, and made himself a friggin' god by harnessing the power of the 3 statues. I don't think any FF villain could compare to him.

I'm not too sure, i think FF8 and 9 were lame, so no good villains there, in FFX it had Seymour, who was ##### up, but still... I think the one i hated most was Sephiroth, i actually started expressing real hate, but when Cloud had the flashback of killing him at the reactor, that was just kick @$$ , if you come to think about it, there is no one evil villain, just a whole lot of evil plots, lol, at least thats how i see it

I am going to have to say that Sephiroth is the most evil. He is creepy, and doesn't care about anything, are anyone. He will kill anything or anyone that gets in his way. That is why he is the most evil. Mwhahahahahahahahah

This is kinda hard because the two main villans I thought about the minute I saw this topic was Seymour and Sephiroth, but both of them were insane, one due to the troubles he had as a child and the other went insane when he found out a secret about how he was made. Kuja is kinda evil, but can you blame him, he wanted to live and he was made to take the lives of Gaia. Then, there's Ultimicia from FF8, now she was evil, she had no meaning to have the desire to destroy every living thing and control the future, present, and past. Hmmm . . . I'd say the most evil villan would be Ultimecia, she despised everything.

Kefka because all the other villians had solid reasons for doing what they were doing, Kefka was just ****ing nuts! Besides he wrecked the entire planet for no good reason. The clown thing doesn't make him any less evil either. *shudder*

siphrot and seymore I though where the most eviel person in the games

I think whoever created the way Spira was run with the Summoner. Making a Giant monster destroy all. Sacrifice. All that. 1000 years of torture to a whole world is more than some clown can create.
FF4 and FF6's Villians were Generic. They were popped out of machine and given a look. Pathetic, as Tony stated. Sephiroth, was a tool for mommy. While Jenova had a wird way of doing things. She was pretty evil.

Kuja yes, He manipulated an entire war for his personal gain.. Hmm That sounds familiar. But he was mad powerful.

Now, I will say FFX's villain is the winner of the EVIL prize that the FF villians tried to take.

kefka was annoying!

and sephiroth's mother was lucrisia and his father was...hojo

the story is that hojo was injecting lucrisia and sephiroth with jenova cells and lucrisia died in childbirth

Sephiroth doesn't know about either one of them being his parents. Hojo says so himself. Sephy considers Jenova to be his real mother. And for whatever absurd reason, after reading a few books that reveal more about Jenova's history, he just snaps (which I thought was rather silly: a hardened cold-blooded man like Sephiroth snaps because he thinks he and mommy should be ruling the world? Puh-lease ).

Well honestly, I find Jenova to be the most evil villain.
Because unlike the rest of them, even Kefka, she never showed any sign or remorse or passion as humans often do, but just a straight path of destruction and chaos.
That's all she wished for, and used her puppets to accomplish this.


Well I don't think it's an absurd reason really.
They explain about Jenova's true nature at one point in the game, and you can later read some notes about it.
How she with her manipulative mind control powers turned the Cetra race against each other and almost wiped out their entire race.
Those with Jenova cells are easier to manipulate obviously, and it didn't take much other than getting Sephiroth close to her to make him her puppet.
Cloud also became her puppet for a small portion of the game.

Jenova also didn't say anything through out the entire game. For awhile I had thought Seph was controlling Jenova, given that her incarnations were popping up after every major Seph siting. Jenova Birth, Jenove life, Jenova Death and her true form Jenova Synthesis. The last form change this belief - she had controll over herself after all. If she could not rule the world with Seph, she was going to try and make sure he does and no one else. Too bad your ultima is "Too Weak to be worthwhile" you overgrown mutated Brain on PMS.

Well remember those nightmares Cloud had where some creepy music appears, and someone starts talking? That could very well be her.
And since "Ghost Sephiroth" doesn't seem to remember what the real Sephiroth should, and goes "who are you?" to Cloud, and eventually becomes convinced that Cloud is only a puppet because she could never see him in Nibelheim (while the real Sephiroth should be well aware of the fact that Cloud was one of his soldiers), it might be possible that we were talking to her all along.

I was already convinced that Jenova was in control after the scene near the end of disc 1:

Before Jenova battle --> Sephiroth: "Because you are..."
After Jenova battle --> Jenova: "... because you are a puppet."

It seems to me that the image of Sephiroth that you see in the game is just Jenova in disguise, or at the very least is she in complete control of the Sephiroth image.


Yup, I know . But that part of the story felt rushed to me, it wasn't built on enough, unlike Cloud who grows more unstable the further you get in the game. But Sephy was just like: "I'm a hero, I'll protect this world" --> reads a few books for a couple of days --> "I'm all power, I'll rule this world" --> me: "Meh" .

On a sidenote: Hojo is the one who uses Jenova's cells on his test subjects and makes those people (more) vulnerable to Jenova's manipulation, plus he's a rotten meanie. I consider him slightly more evil than Jenova, but only a little . But alien monstrosities with "eye-breast-thingies" are not the type of villains that can make it on my favorites list .

Lol yeah. It seems like it wouldn't take much to tie it all together so that it would all make sense. It's not the first time they are a bit unclear and leave things up to the player to figure out for himself.
Squall's father in FF8 is one example. FF Tactics also had a few parts that seemed a bit rushed, or more of hints than actual explanations.

The forgetfulness could be due to his exposure to Mako energy too but that's never explained. *confused* Ok I can assume Jenova was only using Seph as a host for her con---err that word I can't spell. ; ;

i would have to say seymour, cause no matter how many times i killed hime he just fricken kept coming back!!!! i was like die already!

I remember that. He was so cool. I love his music and the fact that he kept on coming back meant that I got to listen to it one more time - very cool indeed. It seems that bad guys keep coming back in many of the Final Fantasy games. Seifer was the same - save the part where he was not as cool as Seymour. It also felt like the Jenova pieces were always after you, creepy.

I think I will go with the crowd on this one, Kefka was really the biggest villain. But I kinda liked him, I usally dont like the bad guys, but this one was so perfectly set-up, plus I sure did like his taste in clothes

This is easy, Its black mage from 8 bit theater ::smirk:: always trying to kill that fighter.
I dont see how Anyone matches up to black mage, because he Pwns all.

For me it was Sephiroth. It's just my favorite. Trough the game he was very misterious and that black cape he was wearing, simply cool!! And what about the time when i found out that the Sephy i've been seeing through the game was actually is spirit, and that is body was all surounded with Mako. It really freaked me out.



i desegrie, cause if you remember, in the temple of the ancients, when cloud is posessed, and gives sephy the black materia, a semi transparant boy appears, and its cloud when he was little. I think that cloud his talking to his sub-conscious, who has his true memories, the one that was nearlly deleted in Nibelheim.
what i think is that when he is asking cloud "Who are you?", is trying that Cloud remembers is true past. and also there's another time that when this person talkes to cloud while he is asleep, in Aeris house. It says "I haven't sleep in a bed like this for ages.". I don't think jenova or sephy would say something like that would you?

well said, kuja and kekfa, two of the most sinister villans in the final fantasy franchise. sephiroth, while he had a big ass sword was a panzy compared to those two.

I personally think Delita is the victor in this poll, because at the end of the game, he's king, everyone who would oppose him is either dead or no longer a threat, and he manages to appear as the hero to the history books.

Second would go to Kefka, who did conquer the world and managed to rule over it for a while (at least a year) before the heroes regrouped and took him down.

Delita, I'm not sure about him as a villain. Guess I'll have to repolay the game. It seemed he just did what most people would do in that situation.
Exept that the whole "who held the knife, and who attacked who first" in the ending still confuses me.

Anyway, the most evil villain? I think that one goes to either Kefka or Sin/Yu Yevon, who never displayed any human sides to them, but pure evil.
Both of them were as mindless as a train though, which was sad.
If they had more of a will or personality to explain their behaviour better, they would be more interesting. But definitely very evil, both of them.

Never played FFVI, so have no idea about Kefka.

Well, my vote goes to Kuja. He was so strong,the mistakes were that his life was limited (as told by Garland) and he didn't kill Zidane and the others when he had the chance. If only these obstacles didn't exist, he surely have achieved what he wanted.

I'd definitely give a vote for Kefka. Throughout the entire game, I can't help but constantly think to say to myself "Wow, Kefka is such a crual bastard." Haha. Seriously, though. Anybody who's played the game knows what I'm talking about, I'm sure. Don't wanna give any spoilers, so I'll just leave it at that. Five (evil) stars for Kefka.

Although I have never really seen kefka in the game (I'd like to buy the earlier FFs but have never gotten around to it) his character strikes me as un creative and un inspired. Evil clowns have been over used, I'm not saying he's not the first, but It, twisted metal, and other countless "scary" movies or games have done that to, and with no real motive, but just to be evil, the character has no depth, and is therefore not convincing. Seymour is too womanly and I was never really convinced he was evil (infact I was un aware of it until you discover what he did to his dad) until the very end of the game, where he dubs you "foolish mortals" which is also just plain sappy. Ultimitia is also pretty evil looking, but is also sort of clownlikely dressed, and probably would be "kool" if they ever presented her motives. And somehow Renoa seems hard to beleive that she could be so evil...

Yes, it is a cliche, and yes every other person says so but Sephiroth! The game makes strong and convincing looks into his mind, to show how he is crazy. It shows how he changes for sane (or as close as he can get to it) with Zack and company, to completely mad, and forgetting who Cloud even is. Jenova is not even related to him. He makes all this up for himself while reading in the Nibelheim Mansion and doesn't go out of his way to kill any of your party (since he is convinced you are a sephiroth clone) and just moves on with his own plot ignoring you. Since anyone as powerful as him would not view you as a threat, I think that is also pretty realistic. He is also human. I like that, crazy, yes, but still a crazy human. Not just a monster killing for no reason. Villains have to have minds, and have to be clever, or crazy, but must still have thought processes, so Sephiroth for me. Also the music for sephiroth (his theme, not 'one winged angel') is simple, but is chilling and not over used.

I never saw shin ra as an enemy, rufus is just a spoiled power hungry president but never really a force that cloud and company need to contend with, all the way up to the proud clod, they are no real threat.

In my book goot villains need good writing behind them, not just evil because...

I've never played any of the FF's before 7 so I wouldn't know. I really should borrow them off someone sometimes, oh well until then I'd have to say Kuja. He was always so charismatic and he wore a purple THONG, I mean it doesn't get more evil than that now does it?!

Oh and there's the minor fact that he manipulated people for his own selfish reasons and helped end the lives of countless innocent people along with the production of the black mages.

But NOTHING beats the PURPLE THONG! Well maybe this Kefka fellow who's apparantly a clown... *shudders* clowns.... are... evil.... and yes they have been overused but no matter how many times they use it it STILL frightens me.

Delita was a pretty good villian I think, maybe most of you will disagree with me about this but he is probably the most realistic villian in the series that I can think of. Plus there was just something about him...

Okay, I know Kefka is evil, but because of the graphics, its just never STRUCK me as evil. Like, Kefka burns the city down in the beginning of the game, but Sephiroth does the same in FF7, and because of the fact that Sephiroth has better graphics, FMV, and music, his scene is more evil than Kefka's.. Cause Kefka is just standing in the middle of the castle laughing. And I really really really despise Kefka's character design, I dont doubt that he's evil though.

And although Sephiroth may not have been real for a lot of the game.... The IDEA of Sephiroth is the most evil in my book.

THe idea that he slaughtered every member in the ShinRa building, stole Jenova, and killed President ShinRa... Then went on to kill Aeris, and then Tseng, and then have Cloud give him the Materia, that Sephiroth tried to kill Tifa and killed Zack, that Sephiroth also summoned Meteor. Sephiroth was twisted and deceived into thinking he was the last of the Ancients and it was his job to destroy everybody else... I think the IDEA of him was the most evil.

Not to mention the Masamune, Long Silver Hair, Green Eyes, Trenchcoat, and animated Fire scene, as well as him being the final boss, gives me the impression of a great evil villain.