In Final Fantasy 8 there were several GFs you could get by completing sidequests/mini battles.

For Example, Odin in My Blue Heaven
Tonberry King and the Tonberry challenge (Constantly fighting tonberry after tonberry to make him appear)
Jumbo Cactaur
Doomtrain
Eden
Bahamut

=p well bleh You should all know the optional GFs in this game.

For me it was Jumbo Cactaur seeing as my Squall wes Level 100 this made Jumbo Cactaur level 100 with an insane one million hitpoints, long hard battle.

Coming next was Bahamut, I eventually realised to walk when the light from the pillar had faded, instead of getting a battle every step, then the ruby dragons you had to fight, then Bahamut himself.

Eden was simple, Ultima Weapon was a pussy.

So my question too you, which GFs did you find annoying to obtain?

Getting Eden pissed me off. Random battles with horrid enemies every 3 steps down through a long dungeon thing, even with encounter-none junctioned. That got annoying as hell. Not to mention, the first time I went through and fought Ultima Weapon, I didn't know you had to draw Eden from it. I thought you just win it after the battle as a prize. So I had to go through the whole damn thing over again. >.>

So yeah, I'd say Eden was the worst to get. Not hard necessarily, but VERY annoying.

I didn't beat him easily enough to call him a pussy, but Ultima Weapon was a push over for me...The problem was that he kept using light pillar on Rinoa, who was the only person with draw on at the time. And, trying my best not to kill him before I could revive Rinoa and use draw was tedious.
The most annoying was Jumbo Cactuar. I've just never seen anything so cheap...I forgot how I defeated him though.
-Sever

Hmm... getting Tonberry is BORING, BORING
and BORING. Only what was cheering me was
fact I could draw Triple from him which was at
that point of game hard to get.

And you guys who complain about Ultima Weapon.
You DONT HAVE TO FIGHT IT to get Eden. You can draw
Eden lately in game from Tiamat in Ultimecia Castle
who's total pushover next to Ultima Weapon.

And whats actually big deal of Ultima? Cast Doomtrain
and finish off with Renzokuken or Irvine Shot. Eventually
some Holy wars could come useful too.

i agree..getting Tonberry was really boring..having to fight so many little Tonberries to wait for the big one to come..i think i even almost fell asleep

next would be the Jumbo Cactuar..that fight took about an hour of my life.. i had no idea that i would have to fight him for so long..Squall was at level 100 at that time too..>_>

Cactuar was annoying, same with tonberry. My friend borrowed my game so i never got to ultima, but i did draw from tiamat =p

Without any doubt, I would say Bahamut was the hardest Gf to obtain. If you're too stupid and couldn't figure about the answer of Bahamut's questions. You're going to fight endless battle. Annoying at the time.

Well they all have their annoying sides to everything in the game but here's some of my choises.

Jumbo Cactuar can be a real pain but is quite easy to beat as long you've planned the battle through and stick to a single stratergy but what annoys me more about it is sometimes he runs away and you have to find him again.

Bahamut is quite annoying with those Ruby Dragons which you have to face through and by the time you reach Bahamut you're either too weak to fight anymore.

Eden was easy to get.

I used encounter-non junction and i had no enemies to fight. I simply went to Ultima Weapon straight away.

and lastly Tonberry King was a bit annoying since it took so long to get him. *Kill 20 Tonberry's so he would show up?*.....Lame!

Hey, Zex. That's so impossible to went through bottom safely. Even with encounter-none junctioned. Because this skill doesn't work in there.
It's already been made when you go through the unseen spot, you'll battle enemies no matter what. Me too, for a screen, I got 2-3 battles at least. And always on the same spot. ^^;

I know it's impossible because it says it on every book to fansite that it doesn't work but however it did happen and i tested it out when i took it off and seconds after i was attacked until i put it back on it was all normal again.

I don't know how but perhaps i have a very lucky glitch in my game. Scratch the disk in some place and who knows!? It could turn squall into GOD! XD

Jumbo Cactar, without doubt. I didn't know if you didn't use Meltdown magic, he would run away =]

I fought him about 5 times before a friend told me... My thumb was dying from boosting Leviathan so much.

Bahamut too, annoyed me. Just getting to him, the secret option.. took me a while to work out too XD

QUOTE (Zexon @ May 24 2005, 11:25 AM)

QUOTE (1llu51oN @ May 24 2005, 03:19 PM)

QUOTE (Zexy)

I used encounter-non junction and i had no enemies to fight. I simply went to Ultima Weapon straight away.

Hey, Zex. That's so impossible to went through bottom safely. Even with encounter-none junctioned. Because this skill doesn't work in there.
It's already been made when you go through the unseen spot, you'll battle enemies no matter what. Me too, for a screen, I got 2-3 battles at least. And always on the same spot. ^^;

I know it's impossible because it says it on every book to fansite that it doesn't work but however it did happen and i tested it out when i took it off and seconds after i was attacked until i put it back on it was all normal again.

I don't know how but perhaps i have a very lucky glitch in my game.

Hmm. Oddly enough, the FAQ's confirm that even with encounter-none junctioned you still fight enemies on an average of 3 per small area. Yet, you're the second one today I've heard claim that you fought no enemies at all through the whole thing. So I'm guessing there must have been a version of the game where encounter-none did work in there. The European version perhaps? I dunno. Seems like something must be different somewhere though.

When I went to fight Ultima Weapon I too junctioned counter-none and didn't encouter any enemies on the way down, or back up.

Perhaps it is different in the European version.

The Tonberry was very annoying. There was that special way to do it though. If you summoned Diablos it was easier. He did a certain percent of the enemies health. Forget the exact amount. But the Tonberrys had a lot of health and it was easier to use Diablos.

I just let Selphie use The End on Tonberries , that and mass limit breaks lol.

Yeah not finding the secret option on Bahamuts questions = Endless ruby dragon fights =x

That got annoying.

The bloody Tonberry King. It's really stupid to fight quite a number of the small tonberries before the boss makes his appearance. Then Odin, you travel all the way to the point where you can him, he turns out to come out randomly and got sliced into two by Seifer, effort seems quite wasted.

Odins' appearance is affected by your luck statistic =D I had him appear every third battle lol.

The tonberry battles never bothered me much because like Rag, I also used Diablos and after a few casts from him I just use a limit break to get the job done. ^^;; rawr aura!!!


Personally I had two GFs that gave me the problem and that was Bahamut and Cactuar. x_x Bahamut was annoying because of the numerous battles, while Cactuar was annoying because he used something like 1000 needles and it did some enough damage to kill off my lesser or weaker character, not to mention he runs away.

xD Cactaurs 10,000 needle attack, he could wipe out a GF in one hit, so annoying.

If I remember correctly, it ignored defense and the damage was fixed. The same goes in how to raise your little cactuar just keep on training him until the damage of this thousand needles was at the limit. ?_? I'm not too sure if Cactuar's maximum damage as a GF was 9999 or 10000. But yeah his 10,000 damage kept killing my Leviathan. ;_;

Little cactaurs were capped at 1000 on that island, Jumbos was fixed at 10,000. Which kills off anything, by the stage I got to kill him, was 1hp more than I had >=| Very annoying, but yeah it was a fixed damage limit. 1hp per needle.

thus 1000 needles = 1000hp gone.

Odin's not a GF. None of the GFs were really annoying but the ones I hated getting the most are Jumbo Catuar(it runs away, I just wasted all those spells and time battling it) and acquiring King Tonberry. (It's not that bad, just takes a lot of time to get him)



Yeah, but right after he died to the hands of Seifer, another guy shows up and takes care of Seifer for you, making the battle a litte bit easier and shorter. Also, this guy is stronger and shows up more often than Odin, especially in boss battles.

O.o;
Any ideas where does this statement came from ?

I don't understand it on how you say Odin, who could kill enemies with a single hit is weaker than Gilgamesh, who only deal damage towards enemies. O.o;

From the pits of darkness.... of that is between the bottom.



Maybe he forgot that Gilgamesh has 4 options which makes chances of Gilgamesh pulling off the one-hit kill less and not to mention there is also the chance of pulling off excalipur. Hooray! >_>

I would have to agree with most people here. The tonberry king and the jumbo cactaur were hard to get. My Squall was at level 100 when I battled The jumbo cactaur. Me and my friend ended up switching off fighting it because it took so long. As for the tonberry king, it just took so long to get to him because of the long fight. They were both equally annoying.

I too found all the GFs, thanks to my friend Vindictive - a fellow RPGDreamer. Like many people, Bahamut was the most annoying to get and it took me a few attempts to get down there. I remember once I had Quistis on Mad Rush and she had a fire elemental on her attack and I got into a fight with a Ruby Dragon. I gave her Mad Rush since she was the strongest and I thought that it would save time. The problem was that the dragon absorbed the fire and it ended up so that he got healed more than damaged. I just realized this right now, if I had commanded Squall and Rinoa to kill Quistis, I could bring her back and go from there - so silly of me.

For starters, Odin is a GF, he is a luck based GF not a summonable one, please get your facts straight next time you argue =).

Secondly, GIlgamesh was no way more powerful than Odin, he has a 1 in 4 chance of doing Zanzetsuken, which is the one hit kill which odin did EVERY time he appeared.

Back to you. He may not try and kill everything like Odin does, but he does more damage than Odin in a boss battle by using attacks like Excalibur. Also, he appears in battle more than Odin or maybe I just fight so many boss battles one after another. That's one thing better about him than Odin, he has four attacks and assists you many times in all boss battles, including the final battle with (Watch out, it's a spoiler!) Ultimecia and in her final form. You might be right about Odin being a GF, but I was right when I stated the other dude was better.

Gilgamesh is a cool dude but it is sad that I did not get to see him as much as Odin. Gilgamesh attacks more often than Odin, so I've read, which makes him more of an asset.

I dont think he's any better considering that in a boss battle 2 out of 4 of his attacks are not useful. Not to mention if in a normal battle he goes and pulls off excalipur randomly, what a waste of time actually. I'm more better off with Phoenix than him.

Uh there aren't a whole lot of boss battles after you get gilgamesh, and he too is a random luck based GF, only whats worse is you then have 25% chance of getting some random useless move, Imagine gilgamesh wasting a zanzetsuken on ultimecia.

(Note this happened to me once, she doesn't die. it's an ineffective attack) I found gilgamesh usless in comparison to Odin.

That must mean I was better off with Gilgamesh... at least he damaged Ultimecia with excalipur. Hooray for Gilgamesh's 1 damage.

Seriously what makes Gilgamesh a bit less than Odin is the fact that I've already pointed out before about half of his attacks are useless in boss battles and the player has no control over what he pulls off even if the player has high luck. If Gilgamesh didn't have excalipur then he would have been better... but since he pulled excalipur on Ultimecia for me (this has already happened more than one for me >.<) then I lost all faith for him. ;_;

Getting Tornberry, I think I was the hardest. I hate to fight 20 Tornberries.. (Tornberrys?)

Odin , reaching and defeating him within 20 minutes (Or was it 10?) was easy..

Ede, nothing hard. Just have to beat 'Ultima Weapon' was hard. My party died several time before they manage to beat that thing.

I'm not a he, and the first statement came from the fact I can't equip Odin, call him willingly, or teach him abilities. Gilgamesh also can use that Z (can't spell it) attack Odin uses. Whenever Odin did it in a boss battle, it automatically missed and was no help. But Gilgamesh has more options and can show up more than once in one boss battle, so right after he uses the Z attack, he can deal damage to it, helping you out. And oh yeah, it's Excalibur, not excalipur.

Griever - because I couldn't have him...

come on someone challenge my logic I dare you

I believe Odin never showed up in boss battles (except the one, obviously), but Gilgamesh did. Plus, as he did NOT get killed during that one battle (trying not to spoil just in case), oh screw it!

(Spoiler in black)

If Seifer can kill Odin in one hit, then Gilgamesh pops up, and doesn't die, I believe it can safely be assumed he is stronger.

That's all

Yes seifer does kill odin, much like you defeated ifrit at the start of the game, and diablos and bahamut and so on and so forth.

Does that make them useless?

Gilgamesh was really an ineffectual replacement, I found he showed up less than odin did for me, and in boss battles wow, excalibur, that was the most useless mmove ever, oh wait gilgamesh again...yay one damage again...

He really wasn't anywhere near as good as odin battlewise. Odin could own three ruby dragons. Gilgamesh has a 25% chance of doing the one hit kill which made him worthless to me.

I prefer to have Odin the Gilgamesh. Odin only does damage in normal battles, but you know it's a one hit kill. Most of the time when you are fighting normal enemies, it's for the EXP, so i'm glad Odin can come down in fail swoop and get me the EXP quickly. Gilgamesh only has a 25% chance of using Zantetsuken, but I guess should be greatful it's not 0%.

Neither can do a one hit kill on a boss, which is good, I think. As I say, normal enemies are for the EXP, bosses are something you need to overcome to progress in the game, so I think it's fair you get no help.

Given that both are pretty useless against bosses, and that Odin always kills normal enemies wheras Gilgamesh only has 25% chance, I find Gilgamesh to be pretty annyoing...



Oh, I think you're refering to Excalipoor, the move that only did one hitpoint of damage.

I played the European version of FF VIII and No-encounter did not work for me at all. I was thrown into many battles before I reached the bottom level.

But as for the most annoying GF to get was probably Bahamut. I had no idea I had to approach him when the light was gone, since I was playing without a guide.
Took me a while before I realised that something was wrong, and I had to look it up on gamefaqs.

As for Odin, I agree with Sonic here.
First off, the main problem in this game for me wasn't any of the bosses, but that dreadful Marlboro, on Island Closest To Hell.
I used to literally 'pray' for Gilgamesh to appear and pull a 1-hit-KO on him, and sometimes he did. But other times he would only use one of his less useful moves, and I would end up dead because of it.
Either Zantetsuken or Lion Heart could kill Marlboro fast enough for me.

And for bosses (who aren't nearly as cheap) I'd prefer the challenge of killing them myself over having Odin slay him/her instantly.
So I'm glad Odin didn't show up, and Gilgamesh isn't very helpful in that area either.

So I prefer Odin over Gilgamesh, because when he appeared, you know you already won the battle.

Just use Quistis' Degenerator, it instantly blasts the enemy away (to another dimension, apparently). It works on all enemies, even the Marlboro. Not on bosses, of course... well, I don't think so, I've never tried it. I prefer killing them the normal way. Quistis is the key to victory .

Hmm I guess that would work. But it takes away the excitement of the battle, knowing you can always win without having to worry about death.
So I'm not a big fan of Quistis Degenerator. =p

Selphie's final Limit Break, The End, would also work, but it's not as fast as the others in terms of activating it.

Tonberry was annoying for me mostly because the time and strategy you must invest.

1. You must be able to kill each tonberry before Chef Knife turn's Area of Effect.
2. Need Diablos at near max compatiblity to pull #1 off.
3. Have at least and hour and a half worth of free time.
4. Hope to god the King himself doesn't do you in.

I noticed a lot of people saying the Cactuar GF was the most annoying. I don't really see why though. o.o I mean if I recall right, I just casted meltdown or whatever that move was that kills defense. That dropped it's defense, then I just used Lion Heart with Squall who's strength was maxed. Can't remember if that ended it, but I know it didn't take much more than that. So yeah, it was as simple as dropping it's defense, then smacking it around with a limit or 2. If he was still alive, follow it up with water moves like Leviathon.

Probably from the annoyance that is his 10000 needles. You know, constantly reviving just gives Jumbo more opportunities to run away.

QUOTE (Shion @ May 31 2005, 10:24 PM)

Probably from the annoyance that is his 10000 needles. You know, constantly reviving just gives Jumbo more opportunities to run away.

Ah. Well, I guess I wouldn't know. I don't think I ever gave it the chance to hit me with it if I remember right. I had auto-haste on my characters, along with initiative hooked up to Squall which enabled action in battle from the start. I guess I see how that could get annoying if you weren't prepared though. But just set your characters up, and it shouldn't be a problem. =p

I know exactly how you feel. He's the coolest GF in the whole game (to me he is) and yet the enemy gets to use him against you. What made me mad the most was that (spoiler) Squall had it all along inside of him and he didn't even know it! Imagine how easier the game would have been I could have used Griever. But oh well, Bahamut and Eden were enough.

Nope, nothing happen if you cast degenerator on bosses. It just doesn't work.

Yeah, I find this odd why they say this skill was a cheap effort. One hit kill does cheap though. =p
But it's not like getting The End is very easy. Sometimes, you end up going into trouble. Like when you're fighting with Omega, trying to kill him by using The End is a very daredevil trial.

Griever would have made a really boring GF... If I want to do a more powerful shockwave pulsar, I'll just beef up Quistis' mag stat. Other than that he pretty much just hits hard.

And yet I got it on my first try, bye Omega (cheap moves are my friends ). Pity that you don't get some special über-GF for defeating him --> instead we get a silly "proof of Omega's defeat" message in the menu... MEH !

DUMB ASS TONBERRY..why do you have to fight 25 plus to get a very weak , CLUMSY , STUPID looking GF.... he made my blood boil!!!!!