Currently, there are 6 roleplays, not counting Evil Dictators Unite and after I closed and archived the inactive ones on owner's request. I have some roleplays still being moulded by their creators, and they will go up as soon as they are done and satisfies the conditions.

However, I'm still thinking of having one roleplay that is created by combining opinions of roleplayers together (in the feasible way, of course), just to see how successful a roleplay can be with combined effort in creation. So, just name your preferred or would-like-to-see:

- setting (medieval, modern, futuristic or what)
- plot-line (what sort of main plot or story in the background)
- roleplay method (freeform or prodded along by creator or something else)
- species (not necessarily according to setting)
- special abilities (psychic powers, magic, the likes)
- miscellanous (other stuff not mentioned above)
- length of RP (approximately how long would you like it to take to reach the end)

The meshing process will be done in this thread, and when everyone (or the majority) agrees with the way the roleplay is developing, the OOC thread will be written, a manager (or just creator) will be chosen, and the roleplay will go up. Sounds good?

Yes, this is quite like the creation of Necropolis, only this time round, everyone... and I mean everyone, oldies or newbies or retired but seeking to come back roleplayers... can be involved. So, ladies and gentlemen... ^^ let the ideas flow.

Normally when I create my RPGs I just trust the opinions of RPGers I know and can work with, not an entire forum, but I might contribute to this scheme anyway and see how it comes along.

I'd suggest a plotline that can work in a number of settings. Something to do with civil war, where neighbours and countrymen, friends and perhaps even family, are at conflict over their views on the future of the created setting. Civil War is a well-rounded basis for a plotline because it creates tension and character goals, as well as leaves room for traits such as despair, suffering, conflict, death, change and perhaps even love.

Setting isn't quite as important as a solid plotline and I believe the plotline of a civil war works well for this sort of RPG creation. Because civil war also leaves room for many creative elements such as player/character factions and contrasting character views. It also has the capacity to be more then just 'good vs. evil' or 'us vs. them'.

Civil war sounds good to me.

I personally prefer a Sci-Fi/Modern Day/Alternate Timeline setting, but fantasy suits me fine as well. I seem to like playing the role of a soldier, so I'd have no objections to Tim's suggestion.

Okay... but I would like to see other opinions on plot as well as the other aspects. I'm somewhat dubious about civil war since I'm still not sure what exactly classifies as one. But whatever.

Surely not every single roleplayer out here prefers civil war, right? So please, voice your plot opinions.

I'd like to see a fantasy where, as said above, it is not an us vs them mentality. like.. were you could be borderline good or evil, and just live in an rp world but not have to be on a side in a huge conflict.

Like, have (just for example, not an actual setting) three nations. you can be a merchant, and write about adventures you have while trading and wandering about this world. or, you could be a mercenary, working for nation one then, when their done fighting with nation two, join nation three in its new conflict fighting nation one.

An rp without any real end, that would just talk about living in this rp world. kind of like an mmorpg, but in text form. i think something like that might be kind of cool to see.

Though i much like the idea of a civil war,..or even just a war would be fine,as it sounds very interesting, but i would like to see something like i dunno..a vampire rp...(the more i think about it the more i'm leaning towards that war idea...xp)....Though..maybe it could be a fantasy war of somesort..and well have vampires in it ...It wouldn't be an us versus them sort of thing..(like if we included a bunch of other things(demons..etc....)because vampires...aren't demons..really( if anyones read the vampire chronicles by anne rice...xp)..and are considered a race of their own....But meh..whatever comes up with the war thing..i'll do...bacause i am interested, no matter what.

I'm actually alright with the war idea and the setting. And YES to special abilities. Only that we have to come up with realistic goals for the end of the RP(length of RP). Like for the morale of the RPers so to speak.

Notice that the RPs that really get to finish are usually either ones that have short plot, (Dragon vs Pheonix & Draconian Chronicles I) or took really darn long to complete (DC III). >.> Heck it is happening right now with many of our RPs...

Follow-up to what I said before about civil wars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war

So you see a civil war can count for many things, but I'd suggest instead of leaning towards something as rapid and less violent as a political coup, that our setting should be based around something like a long drawn out civil war between competing factions or rulers trying to pacify and take control of the setting country/empire/universe/whatever.
Also, because it is a long drawn out war take our opportunity to make something with an open ended conclusion. As in, the ending and victors of the civil war are not predetermined at the start of the RPG, and that the 'factions' of players at the beginning of the RPG don't necessarily have to be the same at the end. Open-ended Roleplaying, but not necessarily freeform as each character should have some part to play and not just fade into the background or take off in their own private world.

Also remember civil wars are very tragic things and never straightforward things. If we use this idea we have to keep things simple without resorting back to the "clichés of RPGing warfare".
The setup to the RPG can be simple but its likely the actual playing of such an RPG would be complex and possibly not what we're looking for in this project. Not my decision to make though.

I'm not really interested in working out a setting for this, I'm more suited to working on the backstory and things of that nature. What drives the RPG.

If most roleplayers genuinely wants to try out a civil war for a new roleplay, we can have it though it will be very messy roleplaying. Like Tim, I would recommend against it because I would prefer this to be easier to include many elements and simpler to play out.

Anyway, any more other ideas? Keero, I quite like the vampire rp idea ^^ and also Krazed's idea of a non-conflict roleplay sounds fun... considering most of our roleplays involve war and fighting of some kind.

Personally, I would like to see a rp play out to be strongly episodic. Something that can be lighthearted and comical at times but also capable of being morose and emotional. Having short stories that involve the characters and the world and less on some overbearing plotline. It must be easy for new rpers to jump in but at the same time keep the interest of the more senor members.

Sel, if you think I should outline more about my Fantasy/Western Rp, just say so.

Nope I have no problem with your roleplay, Stranger. ^^; It's scheduled to go up once I see your finished work. Same goes for the other roleplay in queue.

I'm just looking to create another roleplay, one that can be rightfully called a dreamers roleplay, not a Tim's roleplay or Penguin's roleplay. One that the majority, if not everyone, can be involved in its very creation all the way to the end. Many of our roleplays come to a prematured end, and though I joined many, I've only seen two played out fully and come to an end.

The roleplay, like I said in my first post, is to be created from everyone's opinions and preference so that at least something will attract the roleplayers to stay on. Straying roleplayers is another problem with our roleplays. I wish that in having a hand in development, roleplayers will have incentive to stay on.

And, I genuinely would like to see what is the type of roleplay that everyone prefers in an approximate common. Of course, if it turns out unique, that's always a plus. You can say that this is a little experiment to see how having members being involved in the very development can affect a roleplay and how successful it can be.


XD You know, this accurately describe my very first roleplay, that one which got me addicted/obsessed with roleplaying. It was pretty much episodic, the plot not obsessed about, and characters have side-stories (romance, hidden past revealed, the likes) and it was pretty easy for new rpers to join in. I'm very interested to see something like that in dreamers.

You know what Reaver. I'm sorry for calling you an ass. Your totally right. No need to correct him Sel.

Anyway, thanx for the encouragement Sel. I did in fact have another idea. A roleplay in which the player's more or less play, or at least make an honest attempt to do so themselves. The clincher is its set in a fantasy realm, or a techie realm or some such. We could use that Civil War theme, too. Like have it start off as "us" just graduating from a military academy. Of course the rp wouldn't be completely serious or completely truthful about ourselves, but it would make things interesting.

>.< Adam, you know better than to react to SR's post. Brian, don't go overboard with expressing your opinion please, I would really hate to have to deal with you or your posts. If you have problems with each other, get it over with yourselves, or bring it to me. I'll willing to hear the both of you out, at the same time even. Just please don't make things difficult in the RP forum.


It would, make things interesting I mean. Having to roleplay ourselves, you mean? That's something that's quite rarely done, isn't it? But yea... it sounds like fun. Let's see how everyone else think about this?

I would like to see a civil war play out. but something beyond that. not really with an end. but not non-conflict either. Like i said, you could pick any character at any stage in life in any profession. have a merchant character and talk solely of how he lives his life. or be a mercenary and fight in the various wars that would naturally be existant in a world. You could be a king of a small nation and talk of your attempts to gain power, land ect. You could talk of maintain your army, and your thoughts on what your doing, and interact with the mercenary mentioned above.

Like, it would be continuous. Not just a civil war, that would end with them winning or losing. there could be a civil war in the plot, but it wouldnt be the focus. the focus would be on the world at large. it could be one to help noobs to start in and learn the basics, and that would hopefully keep old rpers interested too. you could be a peasant talking about the conditions of your life, whether its good or bad, and tlak about the theives harrassing you, or be the peasants king, and improve the peasants life, or tax the hell out of him. Or, you could be the leader of an uprising against the king of this country, either for good or evil purposes.

now, i suppose part of the plot could be an ultimately evil figure that controls the evil and he'd be locked in a continuous struggle against the ultimately good character (think voldemort to dumbledore in Harry Potter) and give these roles up to whoever wants them. if theres multiple people who want each role,, we could figure something out im sure. but these would be (in my opinion) harder to fill. i dont know about others, but i'd rather be just someone who lives in this world, rather than the major character.

now about this idea, it'd be like, THE evil dude has somehow manipulated the uprising, but THE good guy would manipulate others to stop it. I dunno, getting in over my head here it feels like, but im really just thinking out loud. but, this to me, sounds like the basis at least of a good idea. someone, back me up here =p.

I think these are fantastic ideas, so i'll throw mine in i guess, despite it being a mix of everyone's (i give credit to you all!) ideas. I think if we try hard we can make the whole thing work quite well. My idea is to run with the civil war plan that Tim devised in this huge country (see example of my planet in the extended rp topic thing). We can also make it episodotic like this: one person will post a fairly long post (3000 char. or something-this can be changed later). This will be about their character(s) interacting in a town, the war (if a soldier) etc.

Then the next post (which will be from another person o'course) will go to a completly different place in the same country and show how that rper's characters are being effected by the same war. Every different person's post will have nearly nothing to do with anyone elses. But each indivual roleplayer has to keep their many stories/posts consistent to eachother and make sense so that in a way we'll have several, maybe more (hopefully) mini-roleplays inside one roleplay. This also solves the "don't use my character problem" since you simply put your charcter in a different town/city etc from everyone elses'.

Or if you feel you can trust the others, have your characters in the same area. I feel this can be accomplished with 10-20 roleplayers. Then have them have one-two characters a piece and you have a great roleplay on your hands. Quite epic if you ask me. Also, since this is a massive collab. rp, i feel we should all have a say in the developement of the world this is taking place on, countries ect.

Lastly, i think i should have a slight say in this moderator thing since i came up with this idea of creating an rp where everyone has a say in it back in the "question to rpers" topic (not sure if it was that one or not, Seluna would know since she started the topic i belive). How's this body of work and ideas i supplied for you?

It sounds like a lot of people are interested in playing an RP that is along the same lines of concept as "Romance of the Three Kingdoms." Not haveing to be involved in battles but at the same time being effected by the war. You'd have politicians waging war at the debate table, merchents and bandits trying to make a living, and warriors on the battlefield while generals command them. That would be interesting, however somewhat hard to pull off. Also I can't see it being easy for newbs to just ease in in the sheer amount of events taking place. I do not think we should have one bad guy and one good guy though. We could have bad people and good people, but at the root of civil war should be different ambitions vying for control.

that was just an idea, and not neccesarily for just have one person on each. have like, and organization ultimately good or evil, (once again an allusion to Harry Potter) like Order of the Pheonix and voldemort and his death eaters. because there are some who like to join a distinct faction and this might appeal to them. one groups is all for the good of everyone, and one is for the ultimate destruction of this same world. i just wanted to clarify this stranger, that i didnt neccessarilty mena a single guy. but your idea is basically what i had in mind.

Though its a sound idea, but I was hoping for something a bit more realistic. There should not be absolutes like in Harry Potter (though I've never really gotten into that series, all my knowledge stems from seeing the second half of Harry Potter 3 XD), and the main conflict, for example a civil war, should be based off of the intricacies of human folly. Love, hate, greed, lust for power, mistrust, those kinds of things, not evil for the sake of being evil.

Now something like ROTK I would think to appeal to more people, and choosing a side would be more than just "I want to be a good guy" or "I want to be a bad guy." We have plenty of those already. Now take for example the forces from ROTK. You would have the Shu, Wei, and Wu. Now the Shu are the traditionalists. The choose to remember a time when "It was good." Despite its current state of civil war, the believed they had it right back in the good old days and fight to bring back the old order. Then you have the Wei, those looking to take control and bring peace to the land, and they'll do anything to achieve that, even cruel unjust things. In their mindset though, the ends justify the means, and their overall goal is to bring peace and order as quickly as possible. Then you have the Wu, the "young guys" who are looking to change things, thinking the old ways put them into the war they are looking for a different way. In other words the revolutionaries. Now no one side can be considered evil, and no one side can be considered good.

Of course, I do NOT want to have a ROTK role play as I was just using it as an example, but I just hope my point is getting across.

Oo! Oo! Can I be in on this? I'd like to be in on this. Am I in on this?

Sun, just contribute your ideas and opinions and we'll fit it in if we can. But please post longer... I'm not exactly happy to see short posts in my forum, though I allow some (benefit of doubt).

Not like we're RPin'. I'm not gonna think, 'cause if I do it'll be somethin' good enough to keep to myself and write into a book. So I'll just throw a few words out there. War, travelers, power-struggle, world domination, symbient(?) tyrants, demonic field trip. Pick any one o' those, two or more if you want, and I'll spit a story out with that element. Or post another element, I'll do that, too...

Well, from what I've read so far, it looks like there are certain elements that are coming to the forefront in people's minds.

- Fantasy Setting
- Civil War
- More than one side/No clear-cut Good vs. Evil
- Open ended-ness

Now, if everyone wants to agree on these elements, we can probably start crafting a backstory, setting, and plotline.

And Stranger, I like that 'Roleplay Yourself' idea. I say we run with it.

well im slow cause i just noticed this topic. um...i hav nothing to say as for wat i wouldve said is already been said. i mostly agree with wat krazed had said so yea.

I'm game...

Again, post longer please Sun. The quoted portion do not count.

Yes, we probably can start crafting the thing now that we got the basics down. I've known that people have very special preferences for certain things in setting, so name them and we'll see about integrating them.

I'll need to know estimated how long do you guys want the roleplay to last. Realistic goal, that is. A roleplay that takes a few years... okay, that's a little exaggerated, let's try one year... to complete is likely to have many roleplayers lose interest before its end, while a shorter one like say... a month... may be far too short of decent plot development.

Sign me up for the development of one city, eh? If I can concentrate all my creative efforts on just one major city, you'll probably have a very in depth to centralise the RPG around. Can I get an amen?
Of course I'm going to need the basic information about the country it exists in before I begin.

As for length of time; don't worry about it. This is open-ended, so we shouldn't chose a time of ending, but rather let it develop on its own.

Same here. I'll be willing to write up a city for this world as well.

I should be able to snap this writer's block if I actually have something to work on. Also, some criteria for these cities would be a nice building block for me.

Hmmmm... just a thought, but rather than have such talent as you two go to making a single city, perhaps you could put it into making entire provinces of the said kingdom? Add depth and culture to entire portions of the said empire. Almost like creating individual states.

As for premise, I was envisioning something along these lines; Shortly after a Emporerer finally managed to conquer his through politics and war, he found himself on his deathbead, and whats more, without an heir, the masses largely not knowing the type of man he was. Equally loved and hated throughout the land. The situation of the land is unstable, and the policies the emporerer had planned are dying with him. Different factions within the empire lead by the emporer's Viceroy's and Generals are scrambling to amass their own power to shape the land that is teetering on the brink of collapse once again and laying claim to provinces.

As for the "Playing as yourself" idea, I was hoping it was going to work like this; In the midst of the uncertainty of the times, the Emporer formed an Academy to train and educate the future vassals that would lead, protect, and serve his country. The students, of course, would be "us" sort of speak. At least in terms of appearance and personality, but we could of course give ourselves the ability to fight like elite warriors or cast magic spells or what not. Anyway, when the emporer die's, the sides to the coming conflict scramble to recruit the best and brightest of the empire, and the said academy would be the perfect place to look.

Sounds like a fine idea. I'll say it's a less messier kind of civil war, in comparison to those like religious ones or Russian revolution kind. What is everyone's view on this? Besides, some of us can help with creation of certain provinces and craft the kind of people fighting to rule the country, no? True, we can still do this with a different plotline, so it's entirely up to you guys to choose.

Now come on, for or against this plotline and we shall proceed on with the rest of the development.

i like the idea. im not really good at making like...well creating cities or provinces or wat not but if there anything else that i mite be able to do then ok.

What would be sexy is a short story type rp. One where people are given roles.

ex: Say if we had a bleach rp(bleach is just an example) that takes place during the soul city raid. Thier could be 13 charecters and heros, and we could play it out like that.

I can come up with a geographic map of said kingdom, and people can choose the parts they want to craft. Like Sammy said, it'd give a nice base to build off of, rather than creating separate states, all from scratch, with no reference to others' ideas.



I'm game. I can probably come up with a few ideas for Warlords and such.



Too close-ended and restrictive. We don't want to be assigned roles in this thing, we want to mold and adapt into our own roles. Also, seeing as how I haven't watched Bleach yet, I have NO idea what the 'Soul City Raid' is. So yeah. Bad idea.

Well, i finally back. i love this idea so far and i would definately be willing to create a general or two. Also, how exactly are we thinking of the factions breaking down? is it all the generals on one side and the viceroy on the other, or something like viceroy v. general v. general 2 and general 3? tell me and i'll get to work on a general and his faction ect. later all

Please do so, if you have time, then we can start this whole project off in creation phase.

If you want a hand in creation, like take charge of a faction or land, apply here so that I or the person who will take charge of this project can keep track of progress. If you want to help, apply as well, as a helper. Then we will have a nice team to work on this.

Here's the current list:

- Dart (creator)
- Sammy (creator)
- Krazed (helper)
- Hoodie (helper)

And anyone needs a seperate thread with a clear summary?

Sel, ehh... what about my question =p are the general all one faction, or are different generals head of different factions? soo... if theres different factions among the generals i'll get to work on one and his faction. also, are you going to put up a separate thread for the creation of the rp that i should post the general in? later

Mm... I think we'll do the details of the plot out later. Just do a faction (including the general) or province if you wish to and we'll fit it all together later. And no, I think let's just post everything in here for nass commenting... too many threads give me headaches. I think it's safe to throw everything in here.

Ok. i'll get right on it then. have it in a few days hopefully between all my other stuff. i'll do a faction cuz im not so good with anything to do with worlds. so.. later.

..Umm..i haven't been on much and honestly don't know where to put my input in here...soo..ummm i was thinking something along the lines of ..i dunno this ruler or someone had a high influence on not just mortals...but those of the supernatural....and with him dieing with no heir to claim his throne ..it would become appealing, to even those who are, ..basically mingling with the mortals, and would ant to gain control over it....*shrugs* i dunno..if that's what people want..if not then.....forget i said anythin...*shrugs* just a suggestion.

Can I help?

Erm Seraph... do me a favour and read the RP forum rules before posting further. I do allow short posts to some extent but a three word post is sort of stretching it. ^^;

To answer your question, yes you can help. Just contribute any opinions ideas you have here and we'll see if it can be fit into the current development. And please do make your posts longer.

I'm playing up the civil war idea here. I posted a short story called last War of the Exiles. I was wondering if the setting for that would make a good RP. I would want character bios and such, in case they are not already mandatory here. I think that its a good storyline and could be easily manipulated into a good RP.

I like the idea of the civil war but also what could be played out is a war between two cultures, religions, contients, kingdoms and what not. But I like a bit of verity in a roleplay, for example it shouldn't resemble or be almost a dupulicate of an exitisting roleplay that has been already brought out but more the less a mixture to something completely off the topic.

I want to help out with Culture, Cities, Towns, religions, fauna, flora, land lay out or weather possiblities as well addition of an idea of using a guild system underlaying true storylines going through out the roleplay. A guild complext or complexes could add to the reasons why a civil war or basic psuedo war erupted.

Every one has their own intrests and style in creation of a roleplay though so it might be a bit difficult to accept ideas with out playing favourites among the populace that is giving up their own ideas they could use for another roleplay.

Cresi, you're added as a helper. I would like somebody to volunteer as a leader to get this project moving. Because my studies and other affairs (online included) are getting more time-consuming, it'll be irresponsible of me to take charge of this and yet not do much because of my other responsibilities.

So, anyone interested in leading this group RP creation project?

I'll give it some thought, Sel.

I'm not accepting the position, just going to get some ideas together so I have something to work with.

When I made our community forum, I created a forum for this project at http://s13.invisionfree.com/dreamersRP/ind...hp?showforum=10. With more space there it should be more convenient for further development of the roleplay, especially for provinces and such. So somebody please set this project up there and start creating things.

As the one that has been put in charge of overseeing the Group Rp, I lament to tell everyone very little progress has been made. I personally would like to see this rp come to fruition, however there has been very little contributions made to achieve that goal. I am forced to pose the question now asking if people are still interested in creating this rp? If no response is forthcoming, I'm afraid I am obliged to put the rp creation on indefinite hiatus. I hope to hear from everyone soon.

Well, I've just gotten over a terrible fever and a week of exams, so over this coming two weeks I should have a lot more time to put aside to writing and RPGing, seeing as though its school holidays (hoorah!) for 2 weeks.

But it won't work as a 'group created RPG' if I'm the only one involved with Stranger here. How about everyone else?

School and work have been keeping me from writing in general.
I may have to pull out depending on how busy I get this month.

You forget that a hurricane has disabled the moderator of the forum. It's going to be a wait.

The group RP and the ExRP are NOT affiliated. They have nothing to do with each other and are two completely different entities.

Basically, what this rp needs is motivation and maybe a good DM. Seeing your rp developing in this thread, I will like to request being the manager and DM of it. I am on almost most of the time so will be able to update it everyday. Of course, this will mean more of a fast-paced thread, yet I will slow it down if the rp is waiting for the response of a blocker. However, if this blocker takes too long, I will freeform him/her, so that the rp can continue.