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kimi_catdemon
If they made a second wild arms 3, I belive a few things would happen. Why? Well let's take one of my favorites for example.

Janus died by Siegfried. *Sobs.
But when the world was remade by Memerioes, Virginia and her crew only recalled destorying his decoy. So I firmly belive that Janus would come back...

I know this may be a stupid topic thatsuck.gif but...whatever laugh.gif ! Anyway, what else do you think would happen? If so, tell why.
Athrun
QUOTE (kimi_catdemon @ Dec 23 2005, 11:21 PM) *
But when the world was remade by Memerioes, Virginia and her crew only recalled destorying his decoy. So I firmly belive that Janus would come back...

Hmm could you explain this part for me? The recreation of the world, wasn't that only the planet itself, and not the people in it?
And wasn't Jet's body basically a map for how Filgaia used to look like? I don't think they recreated the world based on their own memories, but based on the data inside of Jet's body. And nothing changed for the many other people of Filgaia, like Gallows village and such, right?

But I forgot exactly when this happened. Was it after Sigfried, or after Beatrice?
kimi_catdemon
The way I recall it, Virginia said to use memrioes of the people. Janus death happened when Segifired came to life.. ;_; I still wanna hurt him, BUT not the point...... blush.gif Anyway, that's just how I can recall it.
Athrun
Well I believe it was the memory of the planet Filgaia, before the ocean turned into desert. The machine Ygdrasil is connected to the planet like a Lifa Tree. If you remember, the forrestation around the Ygdrasil looked like normal.

The machine could recreate Filgaia's oceans and forests as long as it had a map for how it would look like. And Jet's body was created so that it carried the "memories" of what the planet looked like.

It's not like humans would suddenly start growing out of the ground as well. tongue.gif
kimi_catdemon
???? I have some werid disorder with my mind were I can't see the way pepole say things and understand them....so I have no clue what you just said.....A disorder or I have yet to figure out how to control my mind...;_;
Athrun
Well okay, let me try to explain.

The Ygdrasil is a machine that contols the growth of the planet.
Centuries ago Filgaia used to look like our own Earth full of water and forests, but some years ago something happened that changed the whole planet.
So Ygdrasil was built by the scientists (Virginia's father was one of them) who wanted to change Filgaia back to the way it was. All it needs is a "map" of what the original Filgaia looked like, in the form of a memory.
However, for some reason no one seems to remember the old Filgaia, and they don't remember when and how the planet changed.
This is due to Beatrice who can control peoples dreams and memories.

The scientists who worked on this also created Jet.
Jet was born with the memories of what the planet really looked like, so that he could connect with Ygdrasil and start the process of recreating the planet back to the way it was.

As for how Jet got those memories, I believe it had something to do with a demonic library (which I forgot the name of) that holds records of pretty much everything since the beginning of time.
kimi_catdemon
I'm going to hope this answeres your question....

Jet is a "map" of the original Filgaia, but then again, only he raclls destroying Janus decoy.
Athrun
QUOTE (kimi_catdemon @ Dec 24 2005, 02:04 AM) *
Jet is a "map" of the original Filgaia, but then again, only he raclls destroying Janus decoy.

I understand that, but you seem to have missunderstood something.

Jet's memories of people who died or survived doesn't matter here.
The Ygdrasil only recreates the planet the way it was. The humans living on it has nothing to do with this. Those who died stay dead.

I guess you could say that the Ygdrasil is like a tree.
When Jet's "map" was connected to it, it's roots started spreading water and other things all throughout the planet to recreate Filgaia back to the way it was.
Sigs Minock
if they made a WA3-2, i'd rather play as Maya and her team...
don't get me wrong, Virginia was a decent female lead- but i hated Gallows.
besides, with Virginia and crew *wanted for the murder of the of the Leader of the Arc of Destiny, which would be kinda hard to prove their innocence since it was Beatrice that killed him, Maya helps out the fledgling drifter.
kimi_catdemon
Yes...now THAT would be cool. I think we could figure out where she hides all those guns.....

And sir, I tried, I'm just stateing my opinion...that's all....
Athrun
Alright, but I'm not talking about opiniomns here but actual facts from the game. You just seem to have missunderstood this part of the story.

The fact is that the game script says that Ygdrasil recreates the growth of the planet, and nothing else. It's not a time machine or some magical device that can recreate people again.
It only affects the planet. The soil of the earth and the trees in the forest. Not actual people.

I'm just trying to tell you how the story of the game goes, that's all.
Janus may be able to come back in some other way, but not through this process. happy.gif
kimi_catdemon
Okay....I still like Janus so I would like him to come back.. happy.gif For him to die?! I don't think anyone really liked that, he had some potentail
Athrun
Yeah I thought Janus was one of the best characters in the game. His battle theme music was really great as well. It's too bad he didn't last as long as I had hoped, but he left me with a better impression than most other characters did anyway.

If there's a Wild Arms 3-2, then I'd like to see him return as well. Actually, I'd like to see most characters return. Everyone except Gallows, I never liked him. =/

I want to see that flowergirl who knew Jet again. I never knew what her story was.
And Virginia, Jet and Clive as well of course. I'm not sure about Sigfried. He started out good, but then he became a bit lame towards the end.
kimi_catdemon
I've come to the conculsion that not many people like galllows.....SOME but not many
(I like his personality...it cheers me up before a test...happy.gif)
Rudy Roughnight
If they made a WA 3-2, Zeikfried better come back. (Yes I said Zeikfried, his proper translated name.) Honestly I would love to see them fix the goddamn history in Wild Arms 3. It's so screwed up it's hard to connect it to the original Wild Arms. There are so many blatent references to the original Wild Arms it has the be to same Filgaia.
Last Kings
Well as pertaining to the story jump, while most of the story picies back to WA1, the shifted about mid way and added in 2 for instance with emma and the emma motor, in WA 1 se used it in the golem, and built a flying jet, but in WA 2 there was the apperence of the dragon lombardia, this and the fact that Janus is a complete rip off of Ashley from WA2, due to the fact that Janus usees the bayonet techniques.

Oh and gallows isn't so bad toward the end of the game, if you give im lucied and get up to 100fp then he can use replay and repeat and other characters action from the turn before, so clive and jet can attack twice, or Virgina can heal twice a turn.

Any way I wout love a WA3-2, Janus was tight an the other chicks team was cool. Especially the guy with the afro, his sword yechs came from jack in WA1 but he's still very cool.
kimi_catdemon
Afro dude!! I love to burn him...it happened on accident the first time, but it was funny! haha.gif
I think there should be some option to play as whatever team you want to: Maya or Virginia
Athrun
QUOTE (kimi_catdemon @ Dec 24 2005, 03:49 PM) *
I've come to the conculsion that not many people like galllows.....SOME but not many
(I like his personality...it cheers me up before a test...happy.gif)

Yeah my friend called him "The Kihmari of Wild Arms" lol

QUOTE (Rudy Roughnight @ Dec 24 2005, 04:25 PM) *
If they made a WA 3-2, Zeikfried better come back. (Yes I said Zeikfried, his proper translated name.) Honestly I would love to see them fix the goddamn history in Wild Arms 3. It's so screwed up it's hard to connect it to the original Wild Arms. There are so many blatent references to the original Wild Arms it has the be to same Filgaia.

Indeed. I've always wondered if it was the same Siegfried from WA 1 or not.
I guess they weren't very clear on that part.
Sigs Minock
QUOTE (Last Kings @ Dec 24 2005, 08:10 AM) *
Oh and gallows isn't so bad toward the end of the game, if you give im lucied and get up to 100fp then he can use replay and repeat and other characters action from the turn before, so clive and jet can attack twice, or Virgina can heal twice a turn.


i think you mean Dan Dariam, and yes- that was the only thing Gallows was useful for: Extension/Replay.
Janus's good twin
Me and my sister had an idea about a WA3-2 if ever created. There should be a story like the original WA3 except about Janus's past. It would be awesome to control his team. And to finally see what Lucio and Keziah really looks like. Janus should be 16 and a little more innocent looking. Romero should be 24 and shouldn't have the scar until later in the game. Dario should be 29 and not as fat. About Lucio's age, I have no idea. It should be a story like in the beginning, it displays a few scenes from Janus's past. Like how his childhood was and Keziah death scene. Blah blah blah! Then in some circumstance meets Lucio and team. I think Janus was the newest member on the team, but in some way the main character like Virginia. On with the game. Then I think the game ends in Lucio's death and Janus losing it. cry.gif *Sniff* Sad ending. After that, there can be extras like a second file about Maya's team, and how they met. YAY! I love extras.
kimi_catdemon
That could be a WA3 bounus, but not for WA3-2....it should pick up where they are wanted and they find Janus and he is forced for reasons beyon his control to team up with them. And slowly as the game progress, you can find out more and more about Janus past. Like a flashback. biggrin.gif But still for the Benifit of the doubt.....YAY!!Janus as a kid!!! haha.gif
Samuri Scearious
QUOTE (Rudy Roughnight @ Dec 24 2005, 07:25 AM) *
If they made a WA 3-2, Zeikfried better come back. (Yes I said Zeikfried, his proper translated name.)

Heheh... good ol' Zeik.
I got annoyed by having... that... "Sieg" part in his name.

It would be awesome to use Maya, Alfred, Todd, and Shady.
It needed variety in its characters.
It would be cool to see other old guardians, like the ones from the first two Wild ARMs'.

And aren't the names of the guardians... aren't some of their names translated wrong?
KaiserDragon18
there was a statement not too long ago about the flower girl you find at the Secret Garden. Umm...if you've played Wild Arms: Alter Code F, don't you think she looks a little bit too much like Mariel. The Baskar in the Colony thought she might return one day, and don't the Elw live a long time?

I think it's Mariel.

As for a WA3-2, I'd like to see something more about the demons. Are ALL of them dead? Personally, I'd like the game to follow a new storyline with a new team. Maybe even with a guy with amnesia (sorta like Jet, but not exactly) who turns out to be a VERY human-looking demon.

...Hey...it could happen...
kimi_catdemon
QUOTE (Samuri Scearious @ Jan 3 2006, 08:26 AM) *
QUOTE (Rudy Roughnight @ Dec 24 2005, 07:25 AM) *

If they made a WA 3-2, Zeikfried better come back. (Yes I said Zeikfried, his proper translated name.)

Heheh... good ol' Zeik.
I got annoyed by having... that... "Sieg" part in his name.


One must wonder if zeiky and sieg are the same demon.....
BigBurkhart
Personally, I would like to see more comic relief from Romero and Dario, but that's just me. I really felt sorry for those guys, and started laughing when the finally reappeared at the end.

Also, I really do think it would be a good idea to play around as Maya's team. (Where DOES she keep those guns?!) nocomment.gif huh.gif
Rozalin
QUOTE (Last Kings)
Oh and gallows isn't so bad toward the end of the game, if you give im lucied and get up to 100fp then he can use replay and repeat and other characters action from the turn before, so clive and jet can attack twice, or Virgina can heal twice a turn.


About Gallows...I really dislike him in the game still he has most hp of all and I used him to use extension and stuff XD I always played with Jet or Virginia my fav chars of WA3 also I liked Janus Battle team
Janus was a fun character in the game.

A yeah I was so addictive to the dungeons of WA3, can't really wait if there would come a WA3-2 cuz They could make some things like Filgaia going back to normal and stuff Also Virginia, Jet, Gallows and Clive are wanted, it should be fun to see how their adventure would go or what they are doing. They could make some new characters but that you sometimes get other characters in your team. They shouldn't come with the "Filgaia is slowly dying" w/e it was, just a new clean thingy, that makes the game more fun. WA3's story wasn't as good as WA1 but the gameplay was very fun and stuff.
Cel Merion
Well, seeing how bad sequels have been lately, I'm not sure if an WA3-2 is a good thing. dry.gif; But if they did, it'ld be nice if they focused on Dario or whatever that kid name was who died before the game. You know, the fourth guy on Janus's team they talked about. He could have survived whatever happened and wanted to revive Janus to kill him over again viva Hyades's half broken seal. Since Seig killed Janus, his data could have been transfered to an alternate memory bank away from the main Hyades Library. Or something overly complicated like that. And maybe we could, you know Actually get to see the Trinity Avenger. That'ld be nice. =) And for everything that's good, GET RID OF THE SEARCH WAVES. >_>

and on a side note: I have to wonder why people hated Gallows. IF anything Jet was the useless one. Accelrator wasn't needed at all, seeing how Virginia was usually fast enough to heal and was better at it. and besides that his spells were weak, the only good he was capable of was Gatling, and we have Clive for that. At least he was good for opening booty trap chests dry.gif. Besides, Gallows had extension, which is quite helpful with Devastate.
Rozalin
About the characters, they are all helpfull. Jet is the Fast damage dealing character also he's one of the fastest characters. Sometimes Jet was even faster than Virginia. Clive is the slowest of all but the strongest of all, also the one who dies most at the end of the boss was Clive dunno why but he just died when Virginia or Jet dealing the last hit. Gallows is pretty helpfull but not good at damage dealing. Virginia is the main healer.

About Gallows' extension, everyone can use extension but the character to put it on is Gallows cuz Virginia mostly uses Lucky cards at a boss in the beginning, Jet attacks, Gallows uses some weird stuff and Clive does the same as Jet. Jet isn't useless at all, the best attack is Gatling. The thing is that Jet is useless is that you just put Finest Arts on Clive since he has less bullets. And just wait till you can use Gatling.
Cel Merion
EH? This is WA 3 you, know, everyone has one speciall skill by default, CLive gets Lock On (Double Damage <3) JEt gets useles-Uh I mean Accelrator, Virgin gets Mistic*( items for multiple targets) and Gallows gets Extension( Magic for Multiple targets) Gatling and Summon is what everyone gets, not extension. Maybe you're thinking one of the other WAs. AND you don't get finest arts until the later part of the 3rd chapter, or is it the fourth...either way without that Jet's just an unneeded extra. And, why would wait that long when you get the light medium(and therefore Valiant) much before then?
Rozalin
Oops, sorry about that. I got a little bit mistaken XD I havn't played WA3 for a while but remember enough only get a little bit confused with the tech and stuff.

Anyways, You're right about Jet's accelerator or w/e still it doesn't really make him worthless...
Seraphic Dreamer
QUOTE (Sigs Minock @ Dec 23 2005, 11:22 PM) *
if they made a WA3-2, i'd rather play as Maya and her team...
don't get me wrong, Virginia was a decent female lead- but i hated Gallows.
besides, with Virginia and crew *wanted for the murder of the of the Leader of the Arc of Destiny, which would be kinda hard to prove their innocence since it was Beatrice that killed him, Maya helps out the fledgling drifter.


I agree with this...I would really love to play as Maya, I liked her and her team...it's true that she was a little rude to Virgina, but what she said was complete truth...I wonder what the chance of a wild arms sequel being made could be?
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