real_1)eviance
Jul 11 2005, 09:28 PM
Hey, can you be specific about the different classes we can choose from, are there only mages and warlocks, or others like, assasin or archer?
Dart
Jul 11 2005, 09:30 PM
Basically any fantasy class is fine as long as it makes sense in the surrounding world. So any fantasy class is just fine.
real_1)eviance
Jul 11 2005, 09:58 PM
ok i see
Name: Lustil Ragnik
Sex:Male
Race: Human
Age:19
Height/Weight: 6'0"/195 lbs
General Appearance: Cloaked figure, black mask covering the mouth, white long hair hidden within in the cloak.
Professions and Class:Assasin
- Specialties: Quick and silent deaths
Weapons, Armour and Equipment: Red Blood( this is a weapon i made up, it's a sash with 2 blades tied at each end), light mithril vest and legs, twin kitanas
- Primary Fighting Style: Hiding in the shadows waiting to attack
- Secondary Fighting Style: Sheer brute force
Alignment: Chaotic Good, "Rebel"
Personality: The dark type, hidden from his own past, doesn't care for anybody, not even himself
Biography:
Lustil, a dark warrior, skilled assasin, knows no fear, he is not sure about his parents, not sure of who they were nor has any remembrance of their faces, he has realized since his care-taker, Sheedo, died, that you shouldn't become too attached to someone becouse it will hurt so much once you lose them, a necklace chianed to a symbol of a cracked heart, resembling his lost, will not tolerate ignorance, and surely someone you woulnd't want to be messing with
Dart
Jul 11 2005, 10:11 PM
QUOTE (real_1)eviance @ Jul 12 2005, 03:58 PM)
ok i see
Name: Lustil Ragnik
Sex:Male
Race: Human
Age:19
Height/Weight: 6'0"/195 lbs
General Appearance: Cloaked figure, black mask covering the mouth, white long hair hidden within in the cloak.
Professions and Class:Assasin
- Specialties: Quick and silent deaths
Weapons, Armour and Equipment: Red Blood( this is a weapon i made up, it's a sash with 2 blades tied at each end), light mithril vest and legs, twin kitanas
- Primary Fighting Style: Hiding in the shadows waiting to attack
- Secondary Fighting Style: Sheer brute force
Alignment: Chaotic Good, "Rebel"
Personality: The dark type, hidden from his own past, doesn't care for anybody, not even himself
Biography:
Lustil, a dark warrior, skilled assasin, knows no fear, he is not sure about his parents, not sure of who they were nor has any remembrance of their faces, he has realized since his care-taker, Sheedo, died, that you shouldn't become too attached to someone becouse it will hurt so much once you lose them, a necklace chianed to a symbol of a cracked heart, resembling his lost, will not tolerate ignorance, and surely someone you woulnd't want to be messing with
Not approved, for a few reasons.
Mainly its the biography. Its just a paragraphed sized continuing sentance. Please put more effort into it. Explain what kind of person your character is, how he became an assassin. Where he comes from and what he wants to do with his life. Don't make him such a cliché assassin.
Besides, he's only 19. You didn't explain how long he was training for and how he mastered twin katanas.
Sammy approved.
Soul Reaver
Jul 11 2005, 11:42 PM
Allow me too point out most assassins don't rely on brute force they plan a kill and so on, they also aren't rampaging warriors with no self concern.
I doubt Tim will approve this bio.
Mine will be here...tonight.
Yume-chan
Jul 12 2005, 01:07 AM
Dart, hope you don't mind me using back to my old character. Was just not up to being able to write out another profile yet.
EDIT: I am posting my profile in another post, editted in accordance to your new template format.
real_1)eviance
Jul 12 2005, 09:43 AM
Name: Lustil Ragnik
Sex:Male
Race: Human
Age:21
Height/Weight: 6'0"/195 lbs
General Appearance: Lustil's dark habits, has made him a man with features of a vamipre, pale face, Long white silky hair, always wears his armour and always equpped Kitanas and Red Blood, wears a black cloak which makes him a much more deadly assasin, makes him much more easier to become one with the shadows
Professions and Class: Warrior
- Specialties: Able to study the enemies weakness adnd use it to his advantage
Weapons, Armour and Equipment: Red Blood( this is a weapon i made up, it's a sash with 2 blades tied at each end), light mithril vest and legs, twin kitanas
- Primary Fighting Style: Hiding in the shadows waiting to attack
- Secondary Fighting Style: Sheer brute force
Alignment: Chaotic Good, "Rebel"
Personality: Lustil looks after himself, his connections within the shadows, has made him remote from civilization, not knowing the warmth of another being, has made him anti-social, he doesn't care for other beings, not even himself, he despises the world for bringing such a darkness into it's domain
Biography: In a small village jus outside the Empire of Rangarder, Lustil is given life by Evan Ragnik, a common women, a wife to a warrior, the warrior, his father, at the time of Lustil's birth his father and his fellow men were battling a mighty chimera a few miles away from the village, his father fought bravely with heart and courage, you could here the war cries 1000 miles away, his father was the strongest of all the villagers, also a great leader, he knew that this chimera was no macth for him and warriors, but he had under-estimated the chimera's power, he would soon realize that every action has its consequences, and he didm he had paid the ultimate price, with his warriors lives, as well as his own. Lustil now age 9, not knowing his father labored day and night to support the village in it's darkess hour, he would ask his mother, "My father, who is he?", she would tell him a fable, lying about his father, she would say, he's a general of the Empire of Rangarder, and would never see him, becouse of the strict laws, so Lustil would work and work and wonder about his father, dreaming of what a great warrior and man he is, he would dream..........Until one day, a small army of bandits, raged along the path which would lead to Lustil's defenseless village, with no one to defend it, the village fell to the bandit's hands, but Lustil's care-taker when his mother labored, Sheedo, had held onto him and ran deep within into woods, safe from the bandit's bane, MY MOTHER! MY MOTHER! Lustil shouted, but Sheedo knew that if he turned back that they too would die. Countless hours passed by and you can still hear the screaming of men, women and children. Now it was day since the bandit attack, Lustil was for some reason mad at the Empire of Rangarder, perhaps for not aiding them in their time a need? Hmmm, perhaps. Lustil knew that Sheedo was once a great warrior, and told, not asked, him to be his teacher, Sheedo rejected his wishes, he didn't want him to know the pain and suffering of war and hate, Lustil would tell him day and night to be his teacher, until one day when Lustil, now age 15, went to gather wood for s fire, he had run into a wolf, how would he defend himself? He had nothing but wood in his hands, so this is what he used, the wolf dashed at him at the speed of lightning, almost capuring Lustil's head in it's mouth, Lustil used a piece of wood to maintain the position that the wolf's mouth was in, then out of no where, a howl of a steel arrow came pass Lustil's ear and into the wolf's head. Now Sheedo knew that Lustil was a warrior, a regular child would have been ripped apart limb from limb, but Lustil was a warrior and the instincts of a warrior told him to defend himself. So Sheedo taught young Lustil, age 15, taught him everything, honor, courage, he had trained him day and night, trained and trained, had taught him how to wield the kitanas, he showed him how to use it's lightness to your advantage, he taught and taught. Unitl one inevitable day, where time took it's toll on Sheedo and put him to rest. Lustil now age 19, made a grave for him, said a prayer he knew as a child. What was Lustil to do now? With nobody to guide him, he would only do one thing, walk and walk, take and take whatever the world brought, he would always have hate for the Empire of Rangarder for not aiding his defenseless village.
Seluna
Jul 13 2005, 05:30 AM
I'm considering if I should join, given I'm already involved in a number of roleplays and am quite busy. I'll make the decision as soon as possible. ^^;
But regardless of whether I'm joining, I really want to see Rui again, either as a second character should I join, or as an NPC. I put a lot of effort into him, if I recall, and he's one of those characters of mine that I am very proud of. So... please, Timmers? ^^;
Rudy06
Jul 13 2005, 01:56 PM
I'm interested in joining...I will type up a bio later, though. I am here to just say that I am interested...The only thing making me a little wary is my schedule, but I'll try against it.
Dart
Jul 13 2005, 10:35 PM
Alrighty then, Rudy.
Very well Seluna. Rui can make his grand return, one way or another

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I'd also like to request some paragraphing from real_1)eviance before I decide wether or not to accept his profile.
Linall, still waiting on the remainder of your bio before I approve you.
I'll put up the IC thread once I recieve profiles from Reaver, Cyo, Vins (>_>) and a few others.
Scarlett
Jul 14 2005, 12:12 AM
Dude, Timmers, can I keep Kadia?
Dart
Jul 14 2005, 12:59 AM
Absolutely Lee, but you may want to make some adjustments to the bio unless you want to either pester Penguin into joining again or take his character as well.
And real_1)eviance, I haven't decided if your character is acceptable yet.
Linall
Jul 14 2005, 03:50 AM
Ok, my bio is done. Heres hoping this is a great RP.
real_1)eviance
Jul 14 2005, 09:27 AM
Hey is it ok to make my character an NPC because i don't want him to be too caught up within the story, i jus want him to pop up in certain places like any other NPC and i think if he were to be one of the main charcters that "I" would probably make it unbelievably confusing, Lustil Ragnik, NPC. I guess that's what i really wanted in the beginning because i wasn't really too descrpitive about Lustil, but now i gave some more info that would make him a decent NPC
Dart
Jul 14 2005, 09:37 PM
Penguin, you bastard, approved =P .
Alright, Linall approved and real_1)eviance, you may be a semi-NPC. Krazed, still deciding.
Also, just as a notice. I've decided to change my character's name back to Ryland.
OST
Jul 14 2005, 10:07 PM
I shall join to. Expect my bio sometime tommorow. Just thought I'd tell you it's coming.
Seluna
Jul 14 2005, 10:25 PM
*Edited* Timmers, I've decided to join too. I'm planning for my primary character to be a real mystery. I'll let you know more about his/her secrets in private. He/she will be most interesting. And gonna modify Rui a bit. ^^;; Going to edit them both in later.
Dart
Jul 15 2005, 01:59 AM
Cyo approved. Some of my character's history (Ryland) is contained in her bio after all.
The IC will be opened as soon as I get a few more profiles, and I WILL be reminding people to post if they fall behind (some of you should know I am relentless).
Dart
Jul 15 2005, 05:46 PM
AlbeltheWicked, krazed and Seluna approved.
Just waiting on profiles from Reaver, Lee and possibly Verner and Vins before we begin.
Dart
Jul 18 2005, 03:45 AM
Reaver approved.
The character mentioned in my bio is actually his, Reaver just changed the name.
Well, the IC is up, so I expect some activity.
Servant Saber
Jul 19 2005, 05:12 AM
I'll have a post up either today or sometime tomorrow. I was a little busy yesterday.
Rudy06
Jul 20 2005, 06:44 PM
Well...
I would of had my bio up on Monday or Tuesday, however Monday night my grandpa's power supply was fried, which is where I saved it. So until that is fixed, hopefully by next week, I'll be waiting. (May be a possibility his modem was zapped too...

We will wait and see...=P
Dart
Jul 21 2005, 09:59 PM
Approved again, Yume. And I'm still waiting on profiles from Rudy and Lee.
I'm working on another post, I just need to get some things settled before I put it up. And I'd like to remind that I'll be checking to see if all the players are managing to post frequently or at least on the right occasions.
Dart
Jul 25 2005, 10:35 PM
*Double posting, so what?*
Sorry I haven't been able to get my post up, I've been fairly busy with a few personal things. Also, I'll be making a secondary, leading necromancer character to help the other necromancers when it comes to the structure and operations of the Dark Guild.
Happy gaming.
Krazed
Aug 1 2005, 06:08 PM
hey, does anyone want to join up with my char? i've got no place in mind at the moment, so pm me or respond here and we'll figure it out i guess. later.
Cresi
Aug 9 2005, 11:57 PM
Crud I can't find my old role information ;-;
Seluna
Aug 10 2005, 12:37 AM
QUOTE
Name: Chantel De Davin
Race: Human
Age: Looks to be 24
Sex: Female
Alignment: True Neutral, "Undecided
Class / Faction: A Commodore of Candrosol
Height / Weight: 5’3 , 104 LB’s
Eyes: Pale burnished gold as if a smetlock of melting pots of the finest gold polished to a shine. Hidden by contacts that change colors in her emotions from a dark abyssal blue to a light slate gray color in a rag eof blues and blue grays. [Uses these to hide her odd eyes ]
Hair (Color and style): Long bangs that fall over her breasts like finest woven silk the back is cut short around mid length of her slender neck . At tiems has multiple trinkets and beads woven into her hair. the back where the short is hair is kept up in to a bun or a clip with Chop sticks [seems to be the fashion of women ] Created not of ivory or wood yet of bone of an ancestor preferable to her father, and also has other pair carved with little dragons or trees of wizardwood which as extremely rare and expensive. The color of her hair is a light blonde ish auburn color with streaks of indigo
Distinguishable marks:
Mandala marks over her eye brows from large to smaller[ large on the inside small on the out side].
The mark of the Envokers on her lower spine.
General Appearance: Well built lets, limber and thin yet with an hour glass curvature on her frame for a well bust size form her ancestors, and wide rounded hips. Feminine face, long black lashes, rounded nose, Ears are pierced with large and thick gold hoops with spider rubies with chains to the smaller silver studs or hoops where are 3 more that have Amber or sapphires. Wears chunky black leather boots with strapping and silver hoops, the soles are 2 inches off the ground with serrated soles to keep her from slipping on the deck. Wearing either at times puffy airy pants or tight creamy airy pants around her waist is a silk sash with some tassel out on the open sea they do not wear shirts[ Ok? they do not wear shirts is that ok because it is hassle at times to wear them when working, ] but near short were people can see them she wears a large shirt of silk black with cream lining the sleeves onthe sides of her arms showing bare shoulders and clavicle but it is short enough to see her belly and navel. Which was also pierced with silver and a wizardwood charm of a star. In public on land with other high ranking people wears her rings, and Ranking medals.
Weapon: A giant fan of mahogany and the best papers or canvas with inlay of silver on the wood that is kept in a lacquered casing with the strange markings as on the fan its self using this fan in manipulation of wind and air . Boot knives that flip out form her foot so she can cut if her arms are out of use. As well to knives in her bracers or sleeves for a double team. A sword breaker.......
Armor: Breast plate to protect her breasts if they are preparing for a battle she doesn’t wear this all the time, Black bracers on her ankles and wrists,
Magic School: Evocation
Majors in: Air and Wind.
Minors: Water
Personality:
Outside: Stern, quiet, Loner. Majestic, faithful, at times fierce. Multi personality she changes her emotions but she tries hard to keep them a secret. Feisty
Inside: Feminine, Smiling, friendly, Warm. Can be cold, multi personality. Tries very hard to keep emotions. Feisty
Biography:
At a young age, Chantel has always perfered the high flumes of the sea, since she was a babe she never had a mother after her’s ran off with another sailor this invoked some angers in her father yet seeing her as not a plague or a disaster to be throwing to the deep blue for the creatures that feasted on upon flesh but a gift. In the generations of her family great great [ times around4 ] grandfather was a commodore and down the line of males in the family yet she Chantel was the only heir of her father and so burdened sigh he could either give her up to another family or make her in to a Commodore like every one of the males in the family. On that note he decided to keep her and fashion her in to a Commodore on to the main ship named Ciara which was the main ship and the fastest one of his smaller fleet of five ships.
Chantel’s father started to plan out her future on a grid with the shorted plans o f of teaching to be a fine Sailor, and starting some private lessons to be an Envoker or in to Evocation as seen to be a good light to in a good name as to the well uses of controlling air and wind for sailing ships. Young age he started her at when she was around four to five years of human age for tying knots and such with the help of the other more experienced sailors to guide her about as they sailed in and out of the seas as to guiding her about was to the facts of teching her to swim and other things that were easy to learn for a tottler , the land became something she was never going to be used to. Older she got the more things she was allowed to do with the crew members and what not being “ Daddy’s little Sailor. “ with nicknames more used of Chan[ Pronounced Sha-an]
When she turned the age of 9 or so He sent her off to the Evocation Guild or school to be taught until she was up to around 18 [10 years od day in and day out learning she was kind a insomniac form her heartbreaking ] or so depending on how wells he ever did in that type of magic if not he always could fall back on plan B which was divination and to Chantel that was a very fussy type of magic. When she was sent off to the School she was treated nicely and she did well, she was just heartbroken and home sick for Ciara and her father not used to the land for a year or so being very wobbly and alien to the others. As to how different she was, her eyes were golden first of all not normal and not knowing what her other half was she always assumed her self to be human with her odd styles of her hair and shopping about she raised up in the Evocation school in outstanding grades but that never satisfied her as she always looked out to the water as she came to the age to return on the Ciara with her father, there were some new crewmembers one whom was six years older to her senior. Chantel changed allot now a Guild member of the Evocation [ she wasn't that powerful but getting there they allowed her to go back and have private schooling on the Ciara which was 4 to 5 more years and more] but still working her way through the newer underlings of the guild as she returned to Ciara steadying her self her father still incredibly handsome for an older gentle man of the commodore rank with curly black hair which wasn’t hers but inherited form her grandparents.
As she was around twenty years of human age there was a galleon fight as though the Ciara was victor from the mutiny form the smaller now sunken ship named Taira left her father horribly wounded and left for dead which he died. In order she wanted his bones yet everything else burned the flesh and organs. As she took the bones to create chopsticks for her hair and other things created for her in rembrace, she cherished the chopsticks the most as well she was down there getting wizard wood things such as a charm for her belly piercing and chopsticks as said these had some magical properties. it has been 4 years since the Multiny of deck battle of the Ciara and the Taira which the Taira sunk.
As years passed around she was awarded Commodore by the Admiral Sandev Inviesan in the country for the time of that battle, showman ship for being a sailor on the Ciara as she sailed on, and being the daughte rof her father and her father was very close friend of the Admiral becoming extremely tan to looking to a mocha bean color and paler eyes as she had fashioned contacts for her eyes to fit in to crowds. As she gathered things over her last year before looking still l like a 21 getting techniques of a better fighting skill than what she had from other sailors , and weapons such to the giant fan for her air and wind manipulation as to other things of fighting skills. Placidly speaking. She can only minipulate small amounts of wind and air yet as she is still being schooled by scholar of Evocation from the guild its self form over years collecting smaller amounts of power through her small amounts of time that she has to learn. Allows people to passenge on the Ciara for a price, at the moment Ciara is out on the open sea so watch out for some bobbling knockers in the sun and do not be ashamed beacuse her crew isn't it is their way of life. She loves older men :3 that have dark curly hair and eyes of silvery blue.
Found it for you, Cressie. ^^
Cresi
Aug 10 2005, 01:12 AM
thank you soooo muuuch!
<3 <3
*goes about recreating Chantel in to Umbriel and such.]
Servant Saber
Aug 10 2005, 09:59 PM
I'm still kinda waiting on Tim to make a post to introduce my character. I'm having a hard time thinking of a way to do it. I'll post as soon as Timmers does, though.
Seluna
Aug 11 2005, 12:17 AM
QUOTE
Specialties: Uses illusions to persue her victims in to mass hysteria or confusions o that they break down on the spot if not and they break the illusion there is evocation woven in the illusions to insure a snare.
Divination does not create illusions... right?
Cresi
Aug 11 2005, 10:32 AM
I was toying with the idea of having her know divination and it didn't work so i switched it back to Illusion
Seluna
Aug 11 2005, 06:50 PM
Not to be picky but this seem to make both me and Yume quite uncomfortable with how similar the specialties are. That's the reason why I noticed the bit about divination producing illusions.
QUOTE ("Yume")
Specialties: Casting an illusion and an evocation trap in the middle of the illusion at the same time. Able to cast double, triple or quadruple layered illusions, though when divided, they are not as strong as a single illusion.
Primary Fighting Style: Casting an illusion on his opponent and adding an evocation trap in the middle of his illusion to “convince” his opponent that the illusion is actually real. If need be, he would also utilize his projectile weapons.
QUOTE ("Cresi")
Professions and Class: Commodore
- Specialties: Uses illusions to persue her victims in to mass hysteria or confusions o that they break down on the spot if not and they break the illusion there is evocation woven in the illusions to insure a snare.
Cresi
Aug 11 2005, 10:30 PM
Gack I am sorry Didn't read through every ones I will change that.
Dart
Aug 13 2005, 08:53 PM
Alright, tell me when you're profile is completely (100%, not 99%) ready, Hoodie.
Arrgh, still waiting on Cyo to make a move. I've already looked at it and discussed it, I don't feel I'm in a good position to make a post with the missing Ulima unresolved, unless I took direct control over some characters.
Krazed
Aug 13 2005, 09:06 PM
And im waiting on ayone, preferably anyway, to make amove with my character. if not, i'll post within the next few days, i suppose. if anyone wants to interact, jsut go ahead and do it.
Dart
Aug 25 2005, 01:38 AM
Well, I'm back in action and ready to take control of this again.
Tserian, you've been approved.
Cyo, we're still waiting on you to do something...
Seluna
Aug 25 2005, 01:39 AM
Okay, while I'm inactive (for the most part), AlbeltheWicked, you may want to continue posting as you control Maureen like an NPC. You grasped his personality quite well, though I can't make anything interesting since I'm absent, you'll do just fine. ^^
Everyone else, once the plot gets unblocked, please please post. Magician Trials very nearly got a warning for inactivity and I'm not pleased with that. MT has a lot of potential to go far and become very interesting, and maybe one of the best roleplays I have ever taken part in, and it'll be a very great loss for it to die like that.
Sorry for my delay. :\ The request Tim asked of me was a little too difficult for me to handle - I found myself stuck. Due to my inability just to think of how to respond to my own post...a block. I couldn't see how to do it.
So I'm just going to re-write my post - not sure how much I'll rewrite, but I will. And it should all be done by the end of Friday (my day off) -- college and other things have just been an issue but I won't lean on that so much as an excuse. It may be a little cheesed up, Tim, but I'll try my best. xP So, yes. End of Friday. If I don't get it done by then you'll probably see me here begging for help. :\ My brain is just a little fried lately.
As promised, I fixed my post....if there are any further problems it shouldn't be too hard to fix it again....I hope *knocks on wood*! Sorry for double-posting, but I wanted to draw attention to my edited post. Oy...and I apologize if any part of it is crummy beyond comprehension...I think I'm a little sleepy. ~.~ *goes2tehbedz*
Cresi
Sep 10 2005, 12:23 AM
I feel accuratly finished with my characters profile, somethings minorly might change here and there.
Dart
Sep 10 2005, 12:44 AM
Alright then, I'm going to work on a post now. Sorry I've been behind, whenever one thing stops being busy, another one begins, and it's going to happen again shortly.
I checked out your updated post Cyo, it's fine.
Yume-chan
Sep 10 2005, 08:07 AM
Ok... I've editted my post accordingly to Cyo's editted post, though I apologise if there already was a mistake by misreading on my part to her original post. And the edition was also according to Dart's post, so I think there shouldn't be any problems. If there Are any, please do inform me. Thanks!
Seluna
Sep 12 2005, 02:32 AM
I edited as well, so Rui spotted not only Ulima but all three of them. If it screws anything up, tell me and I'll see if I can change it again. Sorry but that is the most direct and minimal of what I can edit.
Soul Reaver
Sep 12 2005, 03:48 AM
QUOTE (Cyo @ Sep 6 2005, 02:33 PM)
It may be a little cheesed up, Tim
Make it swiss =D Tim likes holes =p.
Cresi
Sep 13 2005, 09:11 PM
God I feel alone in this roleplay >_.
Seluna
Sep 14 2005, 07:57 AM
Mm... introduce in Deimos and try cooking things up? ^^;; As soon as I get time, after I finish my thrice-cursed assignment, I'll probably snuck in a post or two.
Something I really want to know. Are we, the necromancer players, clear to do anything we want as long as it is logical and not godmodding (like destroying an entire city in a night or something)? I recall feeling very frustrated wondering if what I do will disturb whatever plans you guys have and is not exactly revealing. So I think it might be better to get this cleared first.
Dart
Sep 14 2005, 08:18 PM
The necromancers are free to do what they want as long as it's not overly destructive like you said Seluna.
As for plans I might have; I have ideas we can use but there is no set plot outcome set in stone. If the necromancer characters want to throw their own plot into the mixture, feel free to as long as it makes sense within the play world.
Cresi
Sep 17 2005, 11:42 AM
goody <3 I shall then I will make the Grandmaster of all grandmasters muaha >> and Deimos.
Seluna
Sep 19 2005, 07:31 PM
I'm booking one of the Grandmaster for creation. I sort of already have an idea in mind. Anyway... he will not be in the headquarters, wherever it is, and is part of the operation or whatever the plan is. Is this okay with everyone else?
Scarlett
Oct 2 2005, 10:24 AM
If you like, Tim-Tim, I can plug Kadia back into MT. I doubt Jamesy will ever get around to joining again though; life and all. =\
But the offer still stands for Kadia.