SonicX_Zero
May 15 2006, 08:31 AM
Okay so here's the thing guys I stumbled upon this
REALLY CUTE/KAWAII and
REALLY FUNNY anime. Its really great, the characters are so kawaii that they make Chiyo look like a feces, I tell you its soooooo KAWAIIIIIIIIIIII~!!!!!!!!!! I bet any hardened heart person would really love cutesy anime titles because of this~!!! =D
Here's the summary courtesy of ANN:
QUOTE (ANN)
On one hot summer day in 1983, a transfer student named Maebara Keiichi comes to a peaceful rural village in Hinamizawa. There, he befriends his classmates Rena, Mion, Rika, and Satoko. Accepted as a full-fledged member of the "club," Keiichi and the gang plays all sorts of activities ranging from card and board games to hide-and-seek. People will remember that THIS was how playing used to be before the advent of video games.
But just as Keiichi was beginning to be assimilated in simple rural life, he stumbles upon the dark history of Hinamizawa. Dam contruction project. Violent demonstrations. Kidnapping and extortion. ARM-AND-LEG DISMEMBERMENT MURDER. As Keiichi dives deeper into the mystery, he finds that his new found friends may not be all what they claim to be.
So far there have been 6 eps. of cuteness around and lets spread more cuteness and love as the series progresses.
Red_ryaN
May 15 2006, 10:00 AM
hm i dont know. so its just an anime about kids hangin out playin hide and seek and stuff? ll doesnt sound too interesting. and u said its cute? i prefer emotional over cute. to be honest i probably wont check this out at all lol well actually i might just to see maybe i will like it lol nice long title too
Eva
May 15 2006, 10:14 AM
QUOTE (Rsquared @ May 15 2006, 02:00 PM)

hm i dont know. so its just an anime about kids hangin out playin hide and seek and stuff? ll doesnt sound too interesting. and u said its cute? i prefer emotional over cute. to be honest i probably wont check this out at all lol well actually i might just to see maybe i will like it lol nice long title too

Lol...
Anyway, I've been into Higurashi no Naku Kuro Ni since the first fan-sub of the anime was released. I really wanted to try a different genre, Higurashi no Naku Kuro Ni was it. I very much enjoying the series. I'll say more, but I'll wait until more people watch the series, if you catch my drifted, Sonic.
~>uenki<~
May 15 2006, 03:59 PM
Lol~I watched this when it first came out on subs as well, thought that it looked pretty nice.
It's very different from what I usually watch and the plot is interesting.
The OP scares me though =x
SonicX_Zero
May 15 2006, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (Eva @ May 16 2006, 02:14 AM)

Lol...
Do you think he saw the rest of the summary?
QUOTE (Ice)
Lol~I watched this when it first came out on subs as well, thought that it looked pretty nice.
It's very different from what I usually watch and the plot is interesting.
The OP scares me though =x
Awww I love the OP really, not to menion the opening in every story arc as well. The music in the OP is hawt. <3
Hacker Kei
May 15 2006, 10:44 PM
Yeah the OP is awsome the anime freak people out by it disgust and scare ya tail out of ya but this anime is freaken awsome anime the story, the people, and the way you can scare people damn I just love this anime ~heeheehee~ could bring the demon side of ya. I really enjoy this anime gust the feeling out of me.
Natsuki
May 16 2006, 12:27 AM
QUOTE (Rsquared @ May 15 2006, 07:00 PM)

hm i dont know. so its just an anime about kids hangin out playin hide and seek and stuff? ll doesnt sound too interesting. and u said its cute? i prefer emotional over cute. to be honest i probably wont check this out at all lol well actually i might just to see maybe i will like it lol nice long title too

Dude, I suggest you watch at least the first 10 seconds of the anime before saying anything else.
Yeh, I actually started back logging on this. Only got to around episode 4 and then I got side tracked into watching other animes, but I will be getting back on this since now I know more people are watching it. xP
The OP is LUuuRRvvvvVe, it's been awhile since I've heard an OP I like alot from the moment I heard it, it matches the anime very well. I love how much irony they put into this and how creepy the character's can be presented no matter how CUTE they are, hint hint... Rena xD.
But yeh, I will be going back on this, it's been awhile since I love the storyline of an anime over the character's personality. xP
Eva
May 16 2006, 01:35 AM
QUOTE (Sonic)
Do you think he saw the rest of the summary?
Doubt it. I doubt he even notice your sarcasm in your first post, too.
Anyway, I haven't seen that many horror and mystery anime, so I decide to pick this series up to see what I was getting. I do like the anime quite a bit myself. One moment you have your typical cute and comdey scene, then the next you throw into a serious and scary scene where the character's appearance change completely. It's quite interesting.
The OP "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni", same name as the title of the anime. Does set the mood for the series very well. At first, I thought the cuteness might take the serious out of the anime, but I was wrong. I like cute and evil side just about every female character has in this anime.
Anyway, cool to see more people beside Sonic and myself watching an anime series.
Rhadamanthus
May 16 2006, 12:30 PM
#####, I didn't even catch the sarcasm either.

Must've been ill.
checking this out immediately. ;D Sounds like its totally my bag, sadly. Urgh...Anyways thanks for the tip, Sonic. I'll edit this with some impressions later.
Alazuli
May 17 2006, 03:40 AM
Haha, wow! I didn't catch that sarcasm, either! xDD
I'll try checking this out as soon as I get the chance, it sounds really interesting. Different from what I've been watching lately. ^^
SonicX_Zero
May 17 2006, 03:52 AM
QUOTE (Vinsar)
#####, I didn't even catch the sarcasm either.

Must've been ill.
checking this out immediately. ;D Sounds like its totally my bag, sadly. Urgh...Anyways thanks for the tip, Sonic. I'll edit this with some impressions later.
QUOTE (Alli)
Haha, wow! I didn't catch that sarcasm, either! xDD
I'll try checking this out as soon as I get the chance, it sounds really interesting. Different from what I've been watching lately. ^^
I dont know how to react whether to be happy because people can't see through my sarcasm or be sad of it.
Anyway I hope they keep up the level of presentation because I thought the way the first arc showed it first scene was already weird, the 2nd arc opening was even better not to mention Mion/Shion laughing her ass off. xD
Natsuki
May 18 2006, 02:22 AM
Question Arc:
Onikakushi-hen
Watanagashi-hen
Tatarigoroshi-hen
Himatsubushi-hen
Answer Arc:
Meakashi-hen
Tsumihoroboshi-hen
Minagoroshi-hen
Matsuribayashi-hen
Well, There's 8 chapter's in the game, but I hear that there's only going to be about 26 episodes in this series. I'm curious how they're going to fit the whole thing in, obviously it's less likely they'll put in the "real" truth at the end of the this anime, but I am baffled how they're going to put in 8 chapter's since I'm assuming it's 4 episodes for one arc/chapter?
The second arc has just started from episode 5 and I have to agree with Sonic in how good they open the arcs up, with Shion/Mion Laughing her head off.
SonicX_Zero
May 18 2006, 09:32 AM
My guess is that the answer arcs wont take the same no. of eps. as the question arcs. All question arcs will have 4 eps. that is until ep.16 while the answer arcs will be 2eps each since because they are mostly for filling in all that was left unanswered so that it would be enough to fit under the 24-26 eps. standard bracket. But then again thats jsut my guess.
Aaaaanyway, saw ep.6 today and yus it begins... well its not we never expect it to come. lol So like I can't wait for the next ep. ^^;;
DayDreamer
May 18 2006, 11:11 AM
This anime is pretty good. You should ALL check it out =).
I've watched up to episode 6 where we're in the second arc and it's sorta getting a little confusing now. At first I thought it was just previous events but I guess their different scenario >_>.
And yes yes the opening is ace! I especially like the scene where Rena is holding the macheti (<-- can't spell). ph33r the killer loli!
First arc was great though I would like to see how they find the truth for that...
Rhadamanthus
May 18 2006, 02:56 PM
Anyone mind giving me some more information on the game, what it was and whatnot?
As for the anime, still downloading it. When I download episode 6 I'm gonna marathon it along with the other animes I've fallen behind on. (all of them)
SonicX_Zero
May 18 2006, 07:52 PM
What info do you seek Vins? The game is pretty much like any text based games although Higurashi, unlike the Type-Moon games, dont have any sex scenes.
Here's a wiki article if your interested..
higurashi wiki article
_Seph_
May 19 2006, 05:21 PM
My first thought was 'if Sonic says it's good...'
..so I d'l ed the 6 eps. I found the OP was quite nice...hauntingly beautiful? At first it seemed like a cutesy slice of life show, but then... psychotic laughs and machete wielding lolis? The scene with the door and Rena kinda scared me too. I'll be following this series now. XD
SonicX_Zero
May 20 2006, 06:49 AM
Man I'm so slow, it was only watching this ep. I thought "hmm why does Keichi's voice sounded sooo familiar" and it just struck me crap it was Souichiro Hoshi who does his voice. -sigh-
Btw Shion's reaction to Keichi's sudden breakdown on the phone got me wondering like why did she go quiet all of a sudden? I mean I would have expected her to at least shout back at Keichi before putting the phone down. x_x;; Also Keichi really has the nack for breaking down and be a psychotic dude himself, but then again when your sorrounded by psychotic people who's to say you wont eventually become one yourself, just like how the last arc ended...
dude their already dead!!! Stop it already!!! O_O;;
Natsuki
May 23 2006, 05:15 AM
Keichi going psychotic is a good thing, Sonic. xD
Anyways just finished up episode 7
QUOTE (SPOILERS//highlight to read)
It seems they're all gone because they went into that storage place except for Keichi of course, kind of creepy when knowing that the whole town might be canibals
. Rika being so cute and protecting Keichi... xP
So The photographer (forgot his name x.x) is presumed dead, ever noticed that Takano is always missing and not thought to have died? o.O'
Shion's disappearance just gives the extra shock to the episode and enables us to see Keichi freak out over the phone xDD. So who is on the other side of the phone? Mion? x.x
A creepy ass laugh on the phone is a great way to end the episode of course.
SonicX_Zero
May 23 2006, 06:27 AM
Too lazy to blacken my text sooo BEWARE SPOILERZZZZZ
I'm still kinda wondering how Rika will turn up again considering we already know her fate when ep.5 aired... and uhhh that wasn't a sight to behold but judging from that laugh I think its pretty obvious who was on the other end of the phone. x.x;;
Actually I'm kinda shocked to see Rena acting normally though.. <.<;; I mean I know this time its not her story but still I find weird that she isn't going to go freaky the next second like what happened in the Onikakushi arc. >.<;; Ooohh I wonder what happened with Satoko who was just only caught up..
Although I do agree that a creepy ass laugh was a great way to end the ep. in preparation for the end.
Natsuki
May 23 2006, 09:59 AM
Remembering the opening to the second arc, you can pretty much guess who the villain is for this arc is anyways and Rika's fate. =x
//Mion freaking out when holding the ladder for Keichi was good hint there. xP
It is kind of odd that they chose to leave Rena acting like a normal human being this time, but considering what we've seen her do in the first arc, there's no way they're going to leave her like that throughout the series.
I'm still wondering about the scar shown on either Mion or shion's back in the OP song where they're both lying down together with their pinkie entwined, is that a sign? x.x
SonicX_Zero
May 23 2006, 06:33 PM
I think the thing on their back are tatoos, after all Mion is going to inherit the Yakuza group. ^^;; I really dont like their split second personality change like what Rena and Mion have been doind so far throughout the series.... they freak me out. x_x;; Mion's sudden change after doing the thing to Keichi's ladder was o_O;;.
As for Rena, not only is she normal but she seems to have gotten even smarter this time around like speculating on how things happened to Rika and Satoko's disappearance. x_x;;
Cyo
May 24 2006, 07:10 PM
I've started watching this too and I'm just a little confused about 'story arcs.' Wiki didn't really explain them all too well and without knowing what they are I'm just a little confused. xD
Are they like....the same plot, different scenario? And then the answer arcs are suppose to help you guess what went unsaid in each scenario?
SonicX_Zero
May 24 2006, 08:17 PM
Well yeah in a nutshell they are same plot (whole demon curse) but different scenario and that each scenario focuses on each of the female character and their background, and as for the answer arcs yeah they are there to fill in on some things that related to the question arcs. ^^
Cyo
May 24 2006, 10:37 PM
Oh, ok. So I guess - since it came from a game (which I only know a little bit about, thanks to a bit of research) - that each arc is a scenario with the same plot, but something happens to make it different than the last scenario and our job is to figure out what changed the scenario? The more we figure out about that, the more we'll probably be able to piece together what's really going on (I get the feeling the anime isn't going to being conclusive about it). I guess the important part is to know what information is trustworthy and to pay attention to what stays the same and what you learn about the characters as the chapters progress. ^^; Maybe.
That said, I wanted to speculate on some things - see what other people think.
Highlight to read, as I guess it could be possible spoilers. This is just speculation from what I saw and what confused me about the first chapter:
QUOTE (Just some thoughtful venting)
Is it possible that Keiichi has simply lost his mind? It just struck me funny that when got that ohagi with the needle in it..he didn't bleed, the walls didn't stain, and the evidence was just -gone- when he went to go try and retrieve it for Oishi. Is there a reason that every time you see something crazy happen, it's all from Keiichi's perspective? I hear that the game is all from his perspective - like the white van trying to run over him; you can't be sure if he's just imagining that it's trying to kill him or if he was just in the way, after all it does honk its horn. In the anime it tries to confuse you, I think, by making it all appear like it's in the 3rd person, but even with the van incident, when Keiichi sees the driver 'tsk' - it's all from his perspective.
Another odd thing - how is it that a girl as tiny as Rena manages to hold Keiichi against his will while they try to inject him with that syringe?
It also seems that whenever Keiichi freaks out and goes psychotic on the girls and is accusing them, they're frightened, concerned and hurt. But when they go psychotic, it is Keiichi who is frightened, concerned and hurt. The group is never psycho at the same time. xD Except for that one time where Keiichi is frantic and on the phone with Oishi and he sees Rena outside his window repeatedly saying, "Gomen nasai..."
But then the question would be - what is making Keiichi go insane? What happened from that cut where the girls are about to inject him and him suddenly pulvarizing them with a bat? Maybe he realized Rena was too tiny to hold him back?
And that doctor that treated Keiichi's cold made me suspicious. I thought 'OhGodNo!' when he said, "I'll just give you a shot." But I think Keiichi starts to lose it a little before then, right? Or is it him just being paranoid and that the shot heightens it?
I don't know what to think of the first chapter. Someone said, "Maybe Rena and Mion were trying to help Keiichi?" I guess that's possible. I don't know how to tie all these thoughts to the other murders and disappearances. But something about the way the characters acted compared to the other chapter (what little I saw), is really weird...it'll be something to think about once we learn more about the characters from the other chapters, I guess.
This is kinda random but...a guess about that other stuff that was taped the clock: Was it the syringe that was missng, possibly? Or did Oishi collect it? I forget. If it was missing, do you think it ever existed?
In any case, is it safe to conclude that the first arc was probably a 'bad ending' if one looks at it in the persepctive of a game? I have no idea how the game is played, but I assume that this ending was got if you made certain decisions that cause Keiichi to witness all this.
Gosh this anime really makes you think hard! xD I wish the game was out in English. I bet it'd be helpful.
Natsuki
May 25 2006, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (Cyo)
Oh, ok. So I guess - since it came from a game (which I only know a little bit about, thanks to a bit of research) - that each arc is a scenario with the same plot, but something happens to make it different than the last scenario and our job is to figure out what changed the scenario? The more we figure out about that, the more we'll probably be able to piece together what's really going on (I get the feeling the anime isn't going to being conclusive about it). I guess the important part is to know what information is trustworthy and to pay attention to what stays the same and what you learn about the characters as the chapters progress. ^^; Maybe.
Main thing to do is pay attention to the each episode as a whole, you get so many tip off's, even from just the smallest conversations.
Each arc has something added that the arc before didn't show, you'll find out what was missed in the first arc when you move onto the second one. SPOILERS.FROM.THIS.POINT Also, each arc contains a different 'villain'... beware of this because it's that, that makes it a little more interesting. xP QUOTE
Is there a reason that every time you see something crazy happen, it's all from Keiichi's perspective? I hear that the game is all from his perspective - like the white van trying to run over him; you can't be sure if he's just imagining that it's trying to kill him or if he was just in the way, after all it does honk its horn. In the anime it tries to confuse you, I think, by making it all appear like it's in the 3rd person, but even with the van incident, when Keiichi sees the driver 'tsk' - it's all from his perspective.
In the game's perspective, yes, it was supposed to be all in Keiichi's point of view. In the anime it's all put in a third person's point of view, if you didn't see that very well. xP
Taking the van for example, Keiichi assumed that it tried to run him over, that's what we as an observer (not as Keiichi) would think ASWELL.QUOTE
Another odd thing - how is it that a girl as tiny as Rena manages to hold Keiichi against his will while they try to inject him with that syringe?
Haha, I'm glad someone else noticed this. Rena wouldn't beable to hold him down... I wouldn't really try to put the focus on the syringe too much. Don't really want to spoil this one (not like it's BIG spoiler), but if you watched the anime closely enough, you'll noticed that last scene is quite the same as one of the other scene's shown earlier. =x
I'll let you look into that, yourself xD.Ack, I'll continue quoting you later, Cyo. I'm finding it hard to decide whether to spoil alot of it or not. xD
SonicX_Zero
May 25 2006, 08:49 PM
QUOTE (Natsuki @ May 26 2006, 01:04 AM)

QUOTE
Is there a reason that every time you see something crazy happen, it's all from Keiichi's perspective? I hear that the game is all from his perspective - like the white van trying to run over him; you can't be sure if he's just imagining that it's trying to kill him or if he was just in the way, after all it does honk its horn. In the anime it tries to confuse you, I think, by making it all appear like it's in the 3rd person, but even with the van incident, when Keiichi sees the driver 'tsk' - it's all from his perspective.
In the game's perspective, yes, it was supposed to be all in Keiichi's point of view. In the anime it's all put in a third person's point of view, if you didn't see that very well. xP
Taking the van for example, Keiichi assumed that it tried to run him over, that's what we as an observer (not as Keiichi) would think ASWELL.Well even though we do get to see it at a third person perspective but the possibility is still there that what happened may or may not be the truth at all. I find it similar to a certain Silent Hill game, I think it was 2 or 3, where in the game you see, as a player, that there is a monster in front of you and proceed to kill it then a few scenes later it is revealed that what you killed was a human. But how could that have been possible when what the player saw was a monster? Simply because it was all told in the character's perspective. Like in Keichi's case we as the viewers saw what he saw, things may not look that way if another civilian saw the incident.
QUOTE (Winlet)
QUOTE (Cyo)
Another odd thing - how is it that a girl as tiny as Rena manages to hold Keiichi against his will while they try to inject him with that syringe?
Haha, I'm glad someone else noticed this. Rena wouldn't beable to hold him down... I wouldn't really try to put the focus on the syringe too much. Don't really want to spoil this one (not like it's BIG spoiler), but if you watched the anime closely enough, you'll noticed that last scene is quite the same as one of the other scene's shown earlier. =x
I'll let you look into that, yourself xD.Are you referring to the penalty game scene? or Are you referring to the opening scene of the arc? *_* Anyway about the Rena overpowering Keichi thing, its not really that surprising that some girls can overpower guys even if they dont look like it -coughbasedonexperiencecough-, but I thought that it was because of Rena's psychotic side that she was able to overpower Keichi, you know adrenaline thingy ^^;;.
About the syringe I think it exists and based on my simple minded thinking, I thought that the guys who infiltrated his house found it and took it with them. But I somehow feel that its not as simple as that. >.<;;
DayDreamer
May 26 2006, 07:55 AM
QUOTE (Cyo @ May 25 2006, 07:37 AM)

Is it possible that Keiichi has simply lost his mind? It just struck me funny that when got that ohagi with the needle in it..he didn't bleed, the walls didn't stain, and the evidence was just -gone- when he went to go try and retrieve it for Oishi. Is there a reason that every time you see something crazy happen, it's all from Keiichi's perspective?
Another odd thing - how is it that a girl as tiny as Rena manages to hold Keiichi against his will while they try to inject him with that syringe?
Yeah thats a good point there. Also why did he even have to beat the girls to death? He obviously overpowered Rena no problem and could have escaped by swing the bat just once or twice. The fact that he left the syringe as evidence behind the clock means that it wasn't used so why is he going psycho? There's definetely something that happen before hand.
QUOTE (SonicX_Zero)
About the syringe I think it exists and based on my simple minded thinking, I thought that the guys who infiltrated his house found it and took it with them. But I somehow feel that its not as simple as that. >.<;;
Hmm yeah I think it exist too. In fact I'm pretty sure that the syringe was supposed to help him but since he
went off and killed himself they took the syringe to keep it from the police. As you know the people from that village are pretty secretive about things.
Cyo
May 28 2006, 03:46 PM
Aaaack, the last few minutes of episode 8 were a total mind-screw! ;-; Any theories after watching that one or is everyone else just as lost as me? Anything - no matter how spoiler-ish - is nice. ;-; I still maintain that I think it's all Keiichi's doing. Him going bonkers and paranoid.
DayDreamer
May 30 2006, 04:08 AM
Yeah episode 8 just made it all the more confusing and weird

. And is Keichi THAT stupid! When someone tells you that they'll go psycho the next time you see them you don't SEE them again!
Anyways just when things started to make sense this arc seems to add more confusion ><.
SonicX_Zero
May 30 2006, 06:09 AM
Well I really dont have that much comment on the episode. Really. ^^;; I think it was great, but like you guys said it made things more confusing. x_x;; Anyway here's an interesting read about the confession part Mion mentioned, from the game people said it was worth 30min of convo or something and was really dumbed down in the anime so in case you really want to know about Hinamizawa's past.
CREDIT GOES TO kj1980 from suki for this. He typed it all so you rock dude. ^^;;
QUOTE (kj1980)
Not a quote on quote translation, but something close to it. All the following are said through Mion's words at that scene:
1. Hinamizawa was formerly known as Onigafuchi
2. The residents of Onigafuchi believed strongly that they inherited demons' blood and considered themselves to be more noble than others
3. However, with the opening of Japan by Commodore Matthew C. Perry, the times in Japan changed dramatically. With the new Meiji government's policy of doing away with the old and introducing newer ideas for rapid modernization, Onigafuchi's name was changed to Hinamizawa.
4. As Japan sped through modernization, it extended its military might in the name of "rich country, strong military." Spanning military victories in the Sino-Japanese War and the Russo-Japanese War, Japan entered into Pacific War (Pacific Front of WWII).
5*. By this time, Onigafuchi's reverence as a sacred village was in ruins. Villagers and residents from this area were frowned upon as hinin. Slanderous and unsubtantiated rumors about Onigafuchi being an isolated hamlet run by criminals and low-lives became the standard.
6*. People were discriminated for just being from Onigafuchi/Hinamizawa. Parents in the outlying areas told their children that residents of Hinamizawa have a disease. Kids who were touched by children of Hinamizawa cried and parents would actually put salt onto the area where he/she were touched.
7*. Adults would tell their children to never go to Hinamizawa as they would disappear as an Onikakushi, chopped up and eaten. They would tell unsubstantiated horror stories that residents of Hinamizawa lived through a famine in the past by eating human corpses.
8*. Such slanderous rumors did not end within childrens' world. Companies refused to hire people from Onigafuchi. Marriages were also broken; when it was found out that they married a person from Onigafuchi, the other family pressed for an immediate divorce.
[*5~8: These are typical of the burakumin problems that Japan faced/faces since the Meiji Restoration. Residents of blacklisted buraku areas faced/faces huge discrimination, ranging from unemployment and marriage for just being from a certain area. As this is a very sensitive issue, it might be one of the reasons why this section was not explained in the anime]
9. Even under the propaganda slogans of "defending this nation as one" during the war, people in Hinamizawa were still discrimated, despite contributing its residents to the war effort.
10. However, the war finally ended in 1945. Men who went off to war returned, but many did not. However, a bright future for Hinamizawa seemed to lie ahead as General MacArthur's GHQ began to implement a new constitution to get rid of social discrimination once and for all (under the Meiji constitution, discrimination was illegal de jure). Residents of Hinamizawa began to work hard to bring back the rich nature of their beloved homeland.
11. One of the persons who contributed much to redeveloping Hinamizawa and amassing immense wealth was Mion's grandfather, Sonozaki Souhei.
12. Souhei was a food and supplies warehouse manager in Harbin during the war. When the end of the war was announced, Souhei schemes with his fellow members and superiors to smuggle canned military food rations back to Japan. Once back in Japan, he made a fortune selling the smuggled canned foods.
13. But Souhei did not use his new found wealth to his own good. He gave all the money that he amassed to his wife, the head of the Sonozaki family.
14. "Let us rebuild Hinamizawa. All the villagers are family. This fortune shall be shared amongst everyone." said Mion's grandmother, Sonozaki Oryou. This is the main reason why Hinamizawa exists as today and why the Sonozaki family has great influence in this area.
15. Using the money, the villagers helped rebuild the stagnating economy of Hinamizawa. Those that succeeded in turn helped others with their new found wealth. The strong bond of Hinamizawa's residents were reinforced through this process.
16. But by the mid 1950s, a change in the wind took place once again. Suspicions and rumors of the "human canned meat" began to spread. Souhei's former superior officer broke out the shocking news that the canned meat that he sold were in fact, human meat. Because of this, the unfounded discrimination of residents of Hinamizawa as demons that devour on human flesh started to flare again.
17. Why would human meat be in canned foods? Wasn't Souhei just a manager of the supplies warehouse? According to his former superior, Souhei was really just a meager private who exterminated mice and got rid of human corpses - a job fit for a lowly social status coming from his residential records.
18. Souhei would later be transferred as a corpse handler to a certain medical unit of the military. But that unit was a dark area of the military whose staff were doing things that were more inhumane that the unfounded rumors of Onigafuchi.
19. People would know this military unit as Unit 731 - the inhumane medical experimentations on human test subjects to create biological weapons. How obnoxious these military people are - they look down upon a resident of Onigafuchi/Hinamizawa just on baseless rumors and bottom-out-of-sight social economic status when they themselves are doing things that are far worse and horrific.
20. Souhei was transferred to a division within that unit where they were studying how to obtain much needed food for its militarymen. Japan was facing a huge problem during the war in providing its servicemen food in their frontlines. Malnutrition lead to loss of concentration and body mechanisms to fight off diseases. The morale to keep on fighting was also in danger. Hence, this division was given the order to find a way to obtain food in the battlefield. At first they studied stealing from locals and creating survival kits on plants and animals of that region. However, they soon lost sight and opened the door of the unthinkable.
21. What is the most readily available source of protein in the battlefield? Yes, you thought right - human corpses. Bodies of the enemy or our own servicemen, it didn't matter. They believed that its servicemen should eat whatever that is available to live out this war. Mion's grandfather would despise them. These men frowned upon him with baseless slanders of coming from a village that ate human corpses. Yet, these men were the ones that went further. "So what if they call me a corpse-eating demon? These men were the real demons. I don't feel subjugated on no matter what they say." said Mion's grandfather.
22. Several samples were made. But these scientists dared not to try out themselves. So they sent some to the front under the name of "alternative meat." The scientists stamped a logo "circle-alt" on these cans so they don't mistakenly eat them themselves. But the servicemen at the fronts loved it.
23. Did Souhei really sell canned foods that were made by human meat? No one knows precisely. Souhei himself denied it firmly to the end. But there were many who were jealous of Hinamizawa's road to rebuilding it's economy. They called us people who were living off of the wealth made by selling human corpses. Once again, Hinamizawa was back to where it was - being discriminated by everyone.
24. Kids of Hinamizawa were once again thrown stones by other children. That's when Mion' grandmother stepped in. She told the children, "if one child throws a stone at you, throw back with two. If two kids throw stones at you, get back at them with four. If eight kids come after you with sticks, you thwart them off with sixteen. If slandered by thirty, you yell back with sixty. And if a thousand tries to get us, we all come out as residents of Hinamizawa." Sonozaki Oryou stepped up as a leader of Hinamizawa.
25. Residents of Hinamizawa formed a strong bond to look after each other. If a child was bullied, they went to the bully's house. If an adult was discriminated, everyone, young and old, went out to voice their opinion. "Piss off a member of Hinamizawa, you're gonna get into deep #####." That was the thought process behind it. That is the exact reason why Kei was saved by the residents of Hinamizawa who ganged up on those three delinquents.
26 onward: as you saw in the anime
This explanation itselves are quite long (as well as touching several sensitive issues). Hence, the Mion's explanation of Hinamizawa's past was rather shortened to demons of Onigafuchi being bullied by others.
Long read no? Oh yeah and they missed the doll in the end, although the manga did have it. =.=;;
Natsuki
May 30 2006, 10:26 AM
Kind of explains things more thoroughly.
Yes, the last epsisode was alittle more confusing than others. Not too shocked about Mion being hte villain and such.
I just found it odd that they mentioned Takano's death now, didn't they say they didn't know how she died at first? x.x (maybe I need to watch it again xD)
Why was Satoko killed too? x.x' I don't recall her doing anything against Mion.
Ah well, the thrid arc should be starting up in the next ep... let's hope it's not as baffling as this one, but then again, where's the fun in that? xP
AbYsS
May 30 2006, 02:47 PM
Possible spoilers.. so I made it all black =0
I just watched that episode and I think Mion killed Satoko because she went over to Mion's after finding out Rika went over there, and so was caught by Satoko with Rika's corpse or while Rika was being killed..
Though this is just speculation.
~ I love this show
SonicX_Zero
Jun 2 2006, 09:51 PM
I was having this thought for a while and I forgot to mention that in my post for ep.8 is that the scene was saw at the beginning of the arc with Rika stabbing herself was actually from the answer arc... meh I just wanted to point that out since I forgot mentioning it in my post. x_x;;
Anyway I was just wondering do you guys think that the Mion we saw at the hospital was real? Also would you believe every word that Oishi told Keichi talking about dead people walking around and stuff?
AbYsS
Jun 7 2006, 12:51 AM
I am a bit torn and the fact if the Mion in the hospital was real or not.
You know the saying howsometimes you only see what you want to see? Well I think after what Keiichi ( I notice people on some forums for this show call him K1) saw and experienced in Mion's home he might have lost it a bit. I know Oishi had said that they Found Mion's corpse in the well and it seems she died on the day they broke in to save him and Shion. In my opinion I think, as I said, he lost it. He thought he saw Mion outside his home but it was the idea of the 'Demon' that had haunted him and drove him to stab himself?
Then you have how Shion fell out of the window. (Mion and Shion are too close of names, I get confused..) She too could of still be Traumatized after being tortured by her sister and thought to have been arguing with her ghost and may have fell out of the window. This is just the ramblings of a girl at 5 am hyped up on Trix. Haaa
I made the spoiler-ish parts black.
SonicX_Zero
Jun 11 2006, 04:35 AM
Ep.9 just left me o_O;; Here I thought man Shion's going psycho this time? But lo and behold Rena did her specialty and go ballistic with the Oyashiro-sama curse. =D YAY!!! The opening of the arc was pretty different unlike the last two but I think it was still good in comparison.
So anyone taking guesses as to who will be the suspect this time around? hmm...
Mistik
Jun 11 2006, 04:47 AM
I think the opening of this arc was the end to the last arc, and the opening of the last arc is the end to this arc.
SonicX_Zero
Jun 11 2006, 05:07 AM
QUOTE (Mistik @ Jun 11 2006, 08:47 PM)

I think the opening of this arc was the end to the last arc, and the opening of the last arc is the end to this arc.
I think it was stated that each arc is independent from the other except for the respective question and answer arcs that are the only ones who are connected.
Oh and about the opening from the last arc, I heard that it was from Tsumiboroshi-hen which is the answer arc for Watanagashi-hen. Although I was wondering myself why they made a scene from the answer arc to be the opening of a question arc. *_*
Natsuki
Jun 17 2006, 06:29 AM
You questioned it, therefore it was there to be part of the question arc xD. I actually have no clue myself, since it's supposed to be from the Tsumihoroboshi-hen answer arc.
But anyways, after 3-4 weeks of backlogging this, I finally found time to watch episode 9-11. We're still on the question arc, right? Because to me, it kind of feels like a answer arc, in a way...
QUOTE (SPOILERS// Hightlight:2:Read)
Keichi murdered Satoko's uncle
~!!! Big shocker, I didn't think he'd actually do it
. But after hearing all the stuff that Satoko's been through, I'm surprised no-one's even thought about murdering him, well except maybe Satoshi (who supposedly murdered his aunt, following Keichi's assumption). Which makes me question, what really happened to Satoshi?
Takano seems to know what Keichi's done, could she have been the passing car when Keichi was burying the corpse? ...and that last line "Do you think you buried the corpse properly?" (I think) which came out of no where, was a nice line to end the episode with xP Yus~! Glad to see Rena going in her psycho mode. She's a much better character in psycho mode than she is when she's in "detective" mode xDD.
Also, a glimpse of Keichi's past before he moved to Hinamizawa Village. Dude, he's a "detail" brain box xD, he works better when questions are set up in a certain way. Although, all the bullying made him depressed so he moved with his mother...
I think that might link in his craziness to this show. x.x
SonicX_Zero
Jul 5 2006, 07:21 AM
Well now that the arc has finally ended a week ago and yes we are thrown again into another confusion. xDD WTF!?
The way they progressed everything, makes you wonder what really happened and how the hell did some of those happened. Btw we finally get a glimpse of Oishi's other personality unlike the ones we were shown in the first two arcs. I really didn't like his attittude in this arc, unlike the previous arcs I just didn't mind him at all, but this time it was a different story. x_x;; Ahh well....
The hype on this anime died fast here?
Well, bringing this topic back to life since the anime ended recently and I just got around to watching the entire series a couple of days ago. I must say, I was all that impress with the final arc, but the previous arc dealing with Shion was great. I should have figure it out earlier during the actual arc, but that answer arc explain what happen in a previous arc, if I remember correctly.
QUOTE (Spoiler)
Shion just went berserk after Satoshi was murder. First, wasting her grandmother, then kept Mion in prison. She just got crazier as the arc continue. Torturing, then killing Satoko. Drugging Rika, who ended up killing herself instead of falling into the hands of an insane Shion. Not to mention Shion end up killing Mion in the end by pushing her down the hole. What I like the most would be the ending. Shion laughing like a manic, then making her way back to her apartment, slips, falls and dies. Nice end to that arc.
That answer arc would be my favorite of the series. Before that arc, I was getting turned off by the series, but the arc renew my interest in the series, then I just ended up finishing the series with that final lackluster arc that wasn't all that great.
Insane Rena! Like it hasn't been done earlier?
Anyway, would any person still be watching this series or even got around to finishing it?
DayDreamer
Oct 6 2006, 05:20 AM
I finished watching the Shion answer arc a while back and now that I'm stuck in uni I haven't finished the downloads of the rest. I have to agree with you on the arc though. It was awesome. /Spoilers Start/I had never guess that Shion was pretending to be Mion. And when Rika and Shion were battling it out (cheap trick by Shion really lol) it really drew you in. I love the part where Rika ended up killing herself from the drug and Shion laughing like a maniac. Lol, best scene ever ^^./Spoilers End/ It finally makes sense now!
Will finish the rest later.
Natsuki
Oct 9 2006, 04:54 AM
Erm... my friend wants to type this personally so...
[Matt:] Hanyuu is the reason of the strange happenings in Hinamizawa.
[Me:] Er... I have no idea who Hanyuu is myself but yeh... what he said xDD. Apparently she hangs around with Rika or something ...so hopefully there might be a second series to follow that on or something or maybe OVA's, no idea.
I haven't managed to finish the series yet, but my brother's been giving me the episodes from his DLs.
ccc90
Oct 24 2006, 09:05 AM
anosa...erm..Is there anime 1st or the game 1st..I had tried very hard to find it game(see it in wikipedia).But still,I can't find it.Hope somebody can tell me where to get it> Oh and also ,I cant understand well what happen in the second story which Mion-san kill Maebara-kun.Can someone explain it to me? Thanks for your help.
Natsuki
Oct 24 2006, 03:51 PM
QUOTE (ccc90 @ Oct 24 2006, 06:05 PM)

anosa...erm..Is there anime 1st or the game 1st..I had tried very hard to find it game(see it in wikipedia).But still,I can't find it.Hope somebody can tell me where to get it> Oh and also ,I cant understand well what happen in the second story which Mion-san kill Maebara-kun.Can someone explain it to me? Thanks for your help.
The game was made before the anime, I don't think it's released anywhere outside of Japan. All I know is that its a Visual novel and it goes more in depth than the anime...
I'm not quite sure if you watched the Meakashi-hen arc properly (or if you even did). But the answer to that is...
QUOTE (highlight to read spoiler)
that Shion actually killed K1 (Maebura), she pretty much flipped out towards the end of the arc so it wasn't too surprising that she end up killing him in the end.
I got to say that arc OWNED xDD.
SonicX_Zero
Oct 24 2006, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (Natsuki @ Oct 25 2006, 07:51 AM)

I got to say that arc OWNED xDD.
Indeed, seeing things in a different perspective and knowing stuff that never would have crossed my mind made things really great in that arc. ^^ Which reminds me I finally finished the series yesterday and after doing some reading at suki it seems the whole thing just feels like some Twilight Zone episode. xD
The first episode of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai been released by anon.
SonicX_Zero
Jul 5 2007, 08:03 PM
LOL That was fast, I thought it was going to be aired on July 7. Anyway time to go meet our little friends from Hinamizawa again.
If you happen to download anon file of the anime, they didn't subtitle the anime. Just a joke. Bullet Speed Sub did subtitle the first episode of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai. The first episode take place 30 years since the tragic event at Hinamizawa.
You get to see adult Rena and a older version of the detective Oishi. Nice recap episode of what happen during the first series with a theories of what happen in Hinamizawa.
Moving along, I'm a huge fan of the opening theme. I love how the song begin. If you're interested, you can get the TV size version of the song from the link under this paragraph.
Naraku no HanaYou'll be direct to a blog with a direct download to TV size of Naraku no Hana. Not to mention the blog got a direct download to Naraku no Hana being played in reverse, which sound like Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, the opening from the first season.
True Rune
Jul 8 2007, 08:25 PM
Glad I stopped watching it.

; This crap is messed up..
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