I watched this tonight. It was... okay, I guess, at best. I don't know. I still think the first one was the best.

Last spoiler warning.

I'll start with the cons. I know Wolverine is the most popular character and all and the series completly shifted focus onto him at the end of the first movie. I just wish there was a little more focus on other characters. This time they didn't give Cyclops 5 minutes of screentime and then toss him out of the movie, no no, this time they gave him 5 minutes of screen time and KILLED HIM. I was also exited to see Angel in the movie... but he was just kinda there, did no fighting, just flew around in a few scenes. Everything just seemed to be kinda crammed together and rushed. And the ending was just meh. I don't know how to explain it. And the fight between Ice Man and Pyro, WEAK. It just sucked, all I can say.

Pros. Tons and tons of mutants. Lots of good action. This makes the movie very bittersweet for me. I love cheesy action movies, but feel dissapointed when I see a movie thats nothing but a cheesy action movie when it felt like it had the potential to be more. Anyway, yeah, best action of the series by far. Tons of mutants getting killed off as quickly as they appear. Not much more to say. Oh yeah, the best one liner ever... "I'm Juggernaut, bitch!"

I give it a 7/10. Worth a watch anyway.

Yeah I'll be seeing it tomorrow. Kinda skipped over your post since I don't wanna read spoilers, but I'm gonna hope it turns out at least on par with the 2nd. I'm not expecting it to match the 1st, since movie trilogies usually at least slighty decline in quality after the original title. But I'm gonna give it a shot. Can't be worse than my last trip the to movies, which was Scary Movie 4... >_>

But anyways. I'll follow up on this with my thoughts after I've seen it.

I enjoyed the hell out of it...i was glad to see Rogue pushed aside alot since i was just tired of seeing her all over the place...i also was saddened by Angels part or lack there of...
the effects were nice (the whole Golden Gate bridge thing kinda spooked me a bit....bad earthquake memories haunt me, sorry) and Jean Grey...WOW! JUST WOW!!!

i give it an 8 out of 10 \m/s

I was wondering of Brett Ratner could hold up to the calibur of work that Bryan Singer had done with the first two films, so I'm hoping that he hasn't totally ruined the film and concentrated on the wrong aspects.

As for the movie feeling crammed... Dude... It's the X-Men universe, far too much to really explain without maybe making a trilogy focusing on one subject.

Anyway, I should be seeing this in the next week or so... I don't feel like sitting in a crowded theater full of kids and ##### so I'm waiting until the theaters are dead.

The other movies weren't crammed. A story arc was picked, tweaked with to adapt it for the big screen and filmed. It's easy to see that X-Men was based on an amalgamation of the various "formation of the team" stories, and X2 was clearly based on God Loves, Man Kills. X3 just had ridiculous amounts of story arcs going on at once and it just jumped back and forth. The movie felt rushed and clumsy.

Bratt Ratner can't hold a candle to Bryan Singer. Terrible way to end a trilogy of thought provoking films by debasing it into a pointless action flick.

5/10

Oooh mixed reviews. I guess whether you've read the comics also effects how you view this. I haven't so I will probably be more impressed than those who have, unless the film was a good adaptation of the original comics. I do want to see this film, purely because I enjoyed the last 2 films and so I hope to enjoy the last. But, as to whether it is a film I wanna see badly enough to go to the cinema to see is another question, I might just wait until its out on DVD.

What I have heard from friends has been good reviews so I do think it would be worth seeing. Gosh and I read the spoilers above, wish I hadn't xD. But I have seen the trailers and it looks like Bobby falls for another girl instead of Rogue, I hope not. And Phoenix looks good imo, and the angel guy (don't know his name xD). Anyway, yeah it looks like a good film to see.

I just realized.... where the hell was night crawler?! They cut him out completly. WTF. Ya ya, I know it's the X-Men universe... but this one's different. The others were alot more focused, they had their wolverine focus pretty much locked in place. There were so many little mini story arcs in this one they had to cut out old characters for christs sake.

That drops this one down to a 6/10 for me. I still have alot of respect for the first two though.

You have to purchase the X3 tie in game where you play as Nightcrawler (among others) which explains his dissapearance.

rofl.

Halle Berry was hilarious in this film. It wasn't too bad, it felt like a...well, a cheesy action film. And Mrs. Berry most certainly didn't help. Of course the xman nuts will call it HERESY, but I enjoyed every bit of it.
It had a lot of arcs going on at once, and it was handled...alright. I dunno, I can't really rate it. I just know I was laughing a lot in the theatre.

Heresy is an understatement vins... XAVIER KERSPLODED. Juggernaut was defeated by... shadowcat? WTF. Bah, enough complaining.

Thats what you get for having expectations in the first place. Especially from Hollywood.
XAVIER HIMAT SPAM LOL!

God, maybe I'm just nuts, but I enjoyed it much more than X2. Probably because it had more action and I'm a brainumb little twit. But I have no gripes with it, and I think I explained why. =D

hahah vins!
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not really...hes nice to Kitty but not really falls for her...Rogue made the ultimate sacrifice in order to be with him....giving up her powers...which i thought was both sweet, yet lame...i dunno..i never cared for her character...

Didn't you watch the "secret ending" after the credits?

Since the topic says spoilers, I won't hesitate on what happened for anyone who was too impatient to sit around.

Xavier came back to life in another person's body or something like that. The unconscious man he was talking about in the beginning of the movie and the whole "If someone could transfer their consciousness to another blah blah" came back and Moira (I hope I spelt her name right) was checking up on him when he looked over and said in Xavier's voice, "Hello Moira". I hope that wasn't confusing, haha.

Anyways, onto the movie. It was a bit rushed, I was thrilled at the action and all of the mutants that were in it. (It called for my x-men fangirlism, haha.) I disliked the fallacies in it though, like the fact that JUGGERNAUGHT IS NOT A MUTANT!!!!! Dammit he is a human with powers from outer space. Grr. Roar. He did provide nice old comic relief though.

Despite the fact that the ending called for a sequel....kind of.....it seems unlikely that there would be one since it seemed like everything was getting killed off. Magneto still had powers from what I saw, but Jean and Cyclops are dead and Rogue lost her powers. (which made me sad because she was always my favourite x-men ever since I was little)

The movie was good to me, not omgwowfavourite but it kept me excited and giddy all at once. But damn Pheonix is hot! I absolutely love that flaming red hair and the dark twisted image of her. Absolutely beautiful.

What annoyed me the most was the "You're a class 3, I can sense it." It was like a horrible traumatic flashback to that one episode of Dragonhball Z I watched. "You cannot defeat Goku, he is level 54 with a power rating of 1,000,000!!!!eleventyone!!11" Made no sense whatsoever.

I just saw it earlier tonight, and yeah, things got pretty bittersweet between Bobby and Rogue in comparison to the last two films. Alot of character purpose was shoved aside as well, so I agree there. Cyclops should have had MUCH more significance, which is one of the very few things that annoyed me.

oh, did anyone stay and watch the scene after the credits?

My friend Mike DLed a copy of the flick and I just got through watching it... And I'm totally glad that I didn't bother to cough up any money for this flick.

First off, the script is terrible. There's very little dialogue between characters, everything seems pratically emotionless, and characters really seemed like they weren't themselves.

* OMFG SUPER SPOILER ALERT *

I have a REALLY hard time buying that Magneto would just abandon Mystique, much less LOSE his mutant powers. Other characters were totally ruined, especially Juggernaut who should have had a hell of a lot more screen time... Also, they might want to give a heads up to the script writer that Juggernaut is NOT a mutant. I shook my head as towards the end of the film Juggernaut comes into contact with the neutralizing mutant and can't smash through a wall! Terrible.

It also just seemed like we were thrown mutants left and right without any introduction or storyline... You know, I would have rather had a nice tight storyline like the first or second only involving particular mutants than having some sort of mutant fest where they jam as many different mutants together as possible. I just felt like we were force fed excess eye candy in hopes we wouldn't notice the shoddy storyline or script.

I understand that it's a movie that is trying to work within the X-Men universe... But you need to at least keep SOME facts strait and character traits when going for the big screen.

The idea of a " cure " for mutants is totally ridiculous, and what's even more ridiculous is they explain nothing about it other than there's some mutant who can reverse the powers of mutants... Makes no sense in all honesty, and not offering any explination as to how or why doesn't help the situation either.

I think the problem of this film may be a result of switching directors, as if the original vision of the films was somehow lost. Brett Ratner seems to be more focused on showing people somewhat nifty mutant powers instead of developing any character or making an attempt to make the plot cohesive enough to stop any holes. Unfortunately it doesn't happen... It just seems like we're rushed from scene to scene with little care or effort to develop any interest in anything other than " Are we going to see Wolvy freak out? "

Don't think I'm not a fan of the flicks either... I did enjoy the first two enough to pay the ticket price to catch them in a theater, and while they bend some storyline elements SLIGHTLY they at least stay true for the most part to the comics, have a relevant and interesting storyline, and don't try to veer too far off from the original storylines that they're based on. I think the problem with this film lies within someone trying to write a so called " Original " script, tying in WAY too many X-Men storylines into one... Just creating a huge mess of characters and a waste of good acting talent, because you're not going to get a chance to see anything as characters just really don't seem to matter in this film.

I've many more complaints, but I will give one positive and say Kelsey Grammer was an awesome choice for Beast... He nails the roll perfectly, and I'm glad they gave him a decent amont of screen time. A second postive would be that the chick who plays Kitty Pride is pretty hot ... Iceman ditch the mannish looking Rogue and get with a real lady. Good times.

I wouldn't recommend seeing this in the theater... True X-Men freaks are going to notice all the flaws as far as character and plot goes, but mild fans who just wanna see Iceman shoot ice and Magneto move things, this might be your bag.

2/5 corpses, a dissapointment.

Seeing as how the majority of Marvel movies are based more on or around the Ultimate universe, you could make the argument the Juggernaut is a mutant due to his appearences and powers in Ultimate titles.

I soooo agree with you on that one. She's hawt.

I saw the movie yesterday and I really can't quite put my finger on what really stopped me from liking the movie, I tried to like it but I just cant for some unknown reason. Cyclops was practically useless in the movie and Xavier was just meh and even that extra thing at the end, which I never saw, never made things any different for me. Jean Grey was also uhhhh.... <.<;; The whole thing was a mess of sort. >.<;; The Brotherhood of evil mutants was a big joke in the movie, Archangel was just there for whatever nonsensical reason to being a side story that I could really careless.

I give it a 5/10.

No, if I remember right he's still powered by the Crytorrak ( SP? ) crystal even in that universe.

He's not. As of now it's unspecified. He's just a really strong mutant with the power to negate reactionary forces.

Indeed Marvel.com says he is a mutant... he does absorb the Crytorrak crystal even in the Ultimate universe though... It says that the powers he gained isn't known, but apparently Juggernaut himself says that he's " better than ever "

Er... Well that's what he says in the comics according to ze Marvel page here:

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/index.ph...)&printable=yes

Either way, that means that they're mixing the regular Marvel Universe with the Ultimate Universe... And I don't think they should be doing that.

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I have a REALLY hard time buying that Magneto would just abandon Mystique, much less LOSE his mutant powers.

It fits his extreme set of ideals going on in the damn movie series. And him losing his powers was a nice touch of irony. Though it's not as if he lost them permanently, as you see him regain them in the end anyhow.

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It also just seemed like we were thrown mutants left and right without any introduction or storyline... You know, I would have rather had a nice tight storyline like the first or second only involving particular mutants than having some sort of mutant fest where they jam as many different mutants together as possible.

The first and 2nd movie were built on story and character development...and the conlusion was a war movie which excelled in more action than the other 2, while still maintaining enough storyline and twists for what it was. I saw no problem with it, and I don't think a 3rd movie in the style of the first 2 would've been possible anyway.

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The idea of a " cure " for mutants is totally ridiculous, and what's even more ridiculous is they explain nothing about it other than there's some mutant who can reverse the powers of mutants... Makes no sense in all honesty, and not offering any explination as to how or why doesn't help the situation either.

They explained that it was a cure designed from the structure of the boy's DNA, since his ability was to reverse mutation. 'Nuff said for me.

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Also, they might want to give a heads up to the script writer that Juggernaut is NOT a mutant. I shook my head as towards the end of the film Juggernaut comes into contact with the neutralizing mutant and can't smash through a wall! Terrible.

His comicbook origins were a little too cheesy to throw in a live action movie if you ask me, and it's not as if they could focus on one side character that much anyway in a movie with so many damn mutants as it was. Not seeing what the big deal is there, though I'll agree he should've been better than he was with more screen time at least.

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but mild fans who just wanna see Iceman shoot ice and Magneto move things, this might be your bag.

I dunno, I enjoyed it more than X-2, so whatever. It was the best 3rd part in a trilogy I've seen in years, whether that's saying much or not, but yeah. Regardless of if it lived up to the expectations of hardcore comic fanboys, it was still a damn good movie. Either way it goes, this film wasn't going to be an easy thing to do, regardless of which director was in charge. I honestly don't imagine much better coming from the previous director, with the differences probably being less action, and a "deeper" more cheesy plot focusing too much on Jean/Phoenix and Wolvy, with everyone probably living happily-ever-after. Though I'll admit he may've been a bit more organized in plot sequence, but meh. Thetre's probably a *reason* he didn't want to try a 3rd anyway, as trilogies are never really easy to conclude while trying to keep everyone happy/entertained, fans and general movie-goers alike.

He took over Superman Returns and took just about all the production staff with him... It really shows on this film as it's nothing more than random action scenes, bad dialogue, and no character development.

It's cool if you like it dude, I just think it's one big mess of a film. The characters are dumbed down, there's a paper thin story that reeks of crappy original script very loosely based around the X-Men universe. Why have Phoenix if she really doesn't do anything in particular for the plot or story? Why wasn't the Iceman and Pyro fight a bit better? And most of the action scenes were boring and with no true exciting fights or confrontations in the film. Everything felt rushed and nothing was really all that satisfying about the film other than " ohh there's X-Men in it "

The film just failed to meet any of my expectations... Which weren't too terribly high to begin with.

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He took over Superman Returns and took just about all the production staff with him... It really shows on this film as it's nothing more than random action scenes, bad dialogue, and no character development.

Giving up X-3 for Superman instead? Lame...

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It's cool if you like it dude, I just think it's one big mess of a film. The characters are dumbed down, there's a paper thin story that reeks of crappy original script very loosely based around the X-Men universe.

I dunno, I never really expect an amazing plot from the final movie in a trilogy, since the story's already been mostly developed in the previous titles in most cases, especially this one. There really wasn't much more to do other than conclude the saga with a decent action flick, which it was to me.

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Why have Phoenix if she really doesn't do anything in particular for the plot or story?

She kinda was a big chunk of the story herself. Xavier's dark little secret, ####### him and everyone else over. "Sometimes if you cage the beast, the beast gets angry." as Wolverine put it. The consequences of Xavier's actions being harnessed by Magneto as a weapon in his war against humans...I'd say she did plenty for the story, but maybe that's just me.

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Why wasn't the Iceman and Pyro fight a bit better?

Yeah..that's one area I'll agree in. The final confrontation between them was like what, 3 minutes long? lol. You'd expect something better from a rivalry built up over 2 films, but meh.

He's a superman fan to begin with so to him it was more of an opportunity, but he was also willing to direct X-3 its just that fox never bothered to wait and so they just moved on with a different director. Also I heard it was also the reason for killing off Cyclops really early in the movie because of superman.

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Also I heard it was also the reason for killing off Cyclops really early in the movie because of superman.

Wtf does Cyclops have to do with Superman? I mean I know they can both shoot lasers from their eyes, but other than that I'm not seeing a connection. O.o

It really wouldn't hurt to check up on IMDB once in a while. ^^;; Unless your really lazy to check, James Marsden plays the role of Richard White in superman. His schedule was in conflict so Brett had to do something with Cyclops' character since the actor wont stay around that longer so poof and kill off cyclops and he's free to join the superman filming.

It was a decent flick. A huge departure from the Comic books. I liked the interpertation of the Pheonix, and how that came to past.

Other than that, meh.

Monty

Eh, I'm a HUGE comic buff, but I was still entertained by the movie. First off, I think Storm whould have died and the person who killed her said something like "cry now you whiney bitch." Halley is hot, but she totally ruined me for Storm in movies. I'll stick to the Storm in Black Panther. Rawr. Indeed, all of the movies have been heavily inspired by the Ultimage Univers [some of the characters being so young, Knight Crawler being under the control of The Weapon X people [or what the movie represents them as anyway] Magneto's brushing off of Mystique was a perfect characterization of his Ultimate self, though if they were going to do that, they should have done it all the way. He's absolutely ruthless in the Ultimate books. Juggernaught being a mutant also coming from the Ultimate Univers [he didn't absorb the Gem until the recent Ultimate X-Men annual in a fight with Gambit and Rogue who stole the gem in the first place] Wolverine, my favorite part about these movies, was watered down, though he did rip into the Morlocks in that forest scene XD. And yeah, most of the mutants on Magneto's side were supposed to be Morlocks, though I must say....Callisto was WAY, WAY hotter than she EVER was in the comics. R.A.W.R. All in all I give it a 3/5. It was sloppy, but if you go in with an open mind, it was highly entertaining. The grossing of 120 mill seems to prove that lol. Totally toasted Da Code....yikes.

Exactly, and since Fox wants to cash in on X-Men while it's still hot, they decided that hiring Brett Ratner would solve everything. If anything it ruined the entire trilogy and honestly I consider X3 to be the bastard of the three films.

I like some of Ratners work like the Rush Hour flicks and After The Sunset, but those are just goofy no nonsense comedies and this is somewhat of a serious flick. Having the wrong kinda director who is looking to shoot the wrong scenes and not really get into the roots of the X-Men universe or develop any sort of character with the amazing characters we're given really robs some fans of the series I think... I just felt like everything was just thrown together in a way that almost reminds me of the mess that is Van Helsing.

And yes, thanks for clearing all of that up reguarding Bryan Singer and James Marsden Sonic, you beat me to it.

Magneto may be ruthless in the Ultimate universe but once more what they're doing here is creating a bastard child of both universes. The Magneto that was shown in the first few flicks did have his goal of mutant rule, but he was compassionate to his fellow mutant and most of all to Mystique. I dunno, I guess if we were watching " Ultimate X-Men: The Movie " I'd let it slide... But it's like we were shown 2 films that worked well together, then a third bastard film that just kinda contradicts everything and feels thrown together.

the juggernaut part definately made my day.

I honestly think you're going to easy on this movie. I mean the whole story itself was just weak, and everything just felt so detached. The only time I was really excited was the Juggernaut said that line, and . . . Shadowcat, boy was she hot. . .

I went and saw it Friday morning, and I've gotta say, I loved it. I went into it and it met all of my expectations, but that's because I kept up with the production of the movie and knew what to expect. I wasn't going in looking for Bryan Singer's direction. I wasn't looking for a deep conclusion to the story. I wanted action and I got it. Albeit, the movie is flawed, I still think it's my favorite of the series, simply because it had my attention the whole time.



I was under the impression that the Wolverine movie was going to be a prequel, but I read today it's a continuation of X3. I'm not sure if it's confirmed, though. It would kind of make sense for both. With the Wolverine Origin finally being told in continuity, a prequel could be done, but a continuation makes sense with the secret ending.



I feel that. If you read some of the character bios on Wikipedia, people have included their class levels, though. Like Ice Man being a level five, meaning he has uncharted potential. I still think it was weird to have in the movie, though.



Madrox, too. Even though he was a villain, come on. He's bad-ass. They should make an X-Factor movie.



Ratner was brought in with very little time to prep. When they were filming, he was only one day ahead of schedule. His direction style is just, "Scene. Scene. Scene," too. He keeps everything constantly moving. That's how he shot this movie. You'd think with their budget, though, they could've taken a little more time with it.



Again, a product of production schedule/Ratner's style.



Definitely agreed.



I think it was definitely worth seeing it in the theater, if only for the spectacle of it all.



For sure. I was so stoked to see Bobby finally ice up, but come on. Where was the ice slide? The giant ice ball from the Marvel vs. Capcom games would have been fun, too. Definitely wanted to see the ice slide, though.




Mystique really became useless to him after that, though. I mean, why would he need to keep her around? If you look at WHY he was so affectionate towards her in the first two movies, it's because her power allowed her to spy, sabotage, and kill better than anyone he could employ. So yeah, she's useless to him now, not to mention a sapien.



Magneto regaining his powers in the end makes me wonder if the cure was only temporary.
The thing with Phoenix/Xavier..you know what I'm talking about, everyone has to admit, that was a "Holy #####, I can't believe they went there!" moment. You didn't see that coming. Nor did you see Mystique losing her powers coming, or Cyclops for that matter. Those things really touched a nerve. I hate Halle Berry. I don't care much for her as storm, but she did do a better job this time around by having "more to do" as she put it. The "Juggernaut, bitch!" line had me in a fanboy frenzy. That video is hilarious, and I'm glad it made it in. I wish they had added more about it in subtly. Like when Pyro mentions his helmet...I would've died if he said he'd had it since fourth grade.

This is just the conclusion to the trilogy..this set team. We could see more X movies in the future. I'd like to see X-Factor..hell...give me Excalibur. Bring Nightcrawler and Kitty into that. Expand on the Phoenix as a sentient presence. Do whatever. They can't be any worse than the Spider-Man movies(which X3 runs circles around imo.) The X-Men movie universe has its own mythos and I believe this was a great conclusion to this arc. I can't wait to see the Magneto Prequel and the Wolverine movie, despite what time period it's set in.


By the way...did anyone see the Snakes on a Plane teaser with X3? OH OH OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's class levels from the comics, which, when you suspend your disbelief actually make a helluva lot more sense than this "Class 5" stuff.

Well, now that Mags has got his powers and Xavier has been reincarnated, I guess X4 might be in the works.

It was entertaining. Both mother and my sister are big Xmen fans and so am i so we went to watch it. Of course, the little geek in me was always saying which mutant is which and just before the whole Kitty/Juggernaut confrontation i said "But he is not a mutant, Shadowcat is #####" but alas i was wrong, or the writer was wrong.

I did expected to see more of Angel, i mean, the dude was all over the trailers+posters and all he did was save his dad and do that Ben Foster thing of never smiling unless you are a complete psycho trying to flirt with a chick who you hold hostage in a house. Also, Colossus should have had way more screen time and where was his Russian Accent.

Beast was good but unlike the previous movies i didnt feel any character more than the rest. In the first one it was Magneto who Gandalf played brilliantly, although a bit too old, the second had Nightcrawler. This one, Mutants were only there except for Beast and that bitch Jean Grey, god i have always hated the Jean Grey character. Seeing her die was one of the best damn experiences i have ever had.

On the whole Magneto abandoning Mistique, i also dont think it was in his nature to do this. If its because the whole Ultimate Xmen thing (as with Juggernaut) lets be real, the people who know Xmen the most are not the same people who have this knowledge from that comic line. But meh, it was a dick move afterall.

Well, i guess all we have left now are spinoffs, albeit not a uberly popular and known character, i would have liked to see Proteus in a movie.

Lastly, will somebody just buy or rent that damn xmen game and tell us what the ##### happened to Nightcrawler.

PS: Also, in the new line, Xavier and Juggernaut have absolutely no relation? because i was expecting them to have a bit of a fit when Xavier was aproaching the Grey's house, they should have at least made a little homage of the Profesor looking at him in a "We have business pending but right now its about that crazy Jean bitch", or something, throw me a friking bone here.

Well thanks to it's massive opening and Magneto / Xavier still having powers / being alive we'll get X4 soon enough.