I have been serching for a game as good as FF7 for years now and i am sick of waisting money on hopeless games that do not reach this level. someone please help me!

Hmmmm, there are plenty of games out there that are even better than FF7 in every possible way.

From the same generation from the top of my head i can point out Xenogears, FFVIII, Persona 2, Fi nal Fantasy Tactics and even Chrono Cross. Before FFVII you can pick out FFVI (or FF3 in america), Chrono Trigger and Super Mario RPG, sure they dont have full 3d graphics but in my opinion they are better.

Current generation you can check out SMT Nocturne, Shadow Hearts Covenant, Xenosaga episode 1 (unless you are one of those, OMFG CUTSCENES ARE LONG, which is lame), Digital Devil Saga and FFX.

The list goes on, FFVII is not a bad game at all but its easily matched and incredibly overrated.

I am gonna agree, well I dislike FF VII anyway, but without that making my judgement.
FF VII is highly overrated, there are enough games that are better then FF VII. Easiest one would be FF VIII, but also games such as Chrono Trigger/Cross or Shadow Hearts Covenant.

You can also look for Suikoden, I, II or V, those should be good for replacing your beloved FF VII for some time.

Why do people keep naming just Shadow Hearts: Covenant?
I thought the first Shadow Hearts game was good, even better than Covenant... But I guess thats just me.

Anyway to answer this thread's question:

I'll have to agree with the other two about FFVII being highly overrated, same goes for the Halo series, but that’s for another discussion.

If you are looking for a game that’s set in a modern/ or futuristic setting:

-FFVIII
-Persona series
-Digital Devil Saga I and II
-Shadow Hearts series
-Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne

Just to name a few.

Maybe everyone calling FFVII over-rated because they have no idea they're being hypocritical calling Final Fantasy VII over-rated while they pimp Shadow Hearts: Covenant as being the best game around, because they like it? I don't know, just an assumption on my part.

Though, if it's popular, it must be over-rated. Maybe games are over-rated, because you don't find it as good as everyone else? Of course, games you think are excellent can't be over-hyped by you and can't be over-rated.

I don't think the member who created this topic care if you like Final Fantasy VII or not. Funny everyone who posted mention it's over-rated or/and don't like it.

DruDragoon7, how about mention some of these other RPG you tried playing? Be easier to know what game not to suggest to you. Though, the best idea would to play other games of the Final Fantasy series, if you haven't yet.

Yeah assumption on your part mostly. I didnt called it the best game around, hell i didnt even called Xenogears which is my top favourite game of all time as the best.

Albeit incredibly subjective, the matter of what rpg is the best damn game of all time has two particulary distinctive characteristics a) it brings a huge amount of arguement as nobody will or can ever agree on one game and b ) its brought out to discussion in every imaginable way.

Do i love Xenogears to death? yeah, do i think its the best damn rpg of all time? no and i could bring out its flaws beign such topic pertinent but its not.

On the subject of beign disliked and overrated because its popular you couldnt be more mistaken because the truth is the game's graphics, story and characters prohibit from making it memorable. All things considered what the game had to pull through was novelty and that dies out pretty fast.




Didnt play it. Hicks says its better but i havent been able to find it and try out myself.

Try Star Ocean the second story.It is one of the best RPG-s for PS1.

And as Eva said,try the other FF games. fF 8 is also very good,and has a deep story.

Hmm, pretty much everyone has told some of the good games around.

I'll try FF X, yes it ha it's flaws, but has a damn good story to go by, there aren't many flaws about these game, so I would check this one out.

Suikoden I, II and V would be good choices also, if you can find and buy the first two... (if not just burn =p)

The Shadow hearts series are a good pick too, if you like a game that doesn't have a worldmap (bare with me, you know what I'm talking about). IN that way FF X is the same, but both FF X and the SH series have a very god story attached to them, so that won't be a problem I guess.

Games that you'd probably enjoy that have some kind of similar "feel", or match some of the things that made VII such a "good game" (from what I'd say, ignorance of the genre, difference in general setting, advertisement surrounding the game, among other things. ^^ aren't that hard to come by.

Final Fantasy VIII, of course, would be the first thing that comes to my mind.

I'd say give Legend of Dragoon a tryout. The lack of a world map may irk you, but its similar in a few ways.

I'd definitely give Xenogears a try as well, as the setting is most similar to FFVII in a few ways (but you start the game out on the opposite end of where you started FFVII, an interesting spin )

You should also give Chrono Cross a playthrough, as someone had said before. Most likely, you wouldn't like Chrono Trigger (first in said series) at all.

Though most of what you'd probably find enjoyable can be found on the Playstation 2, rather than the psone. Star Ocean : Til the end of Time is a good example, though its an action RPG, if that turns you off at all.

Final Fantasy VII characters make cameos in Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts 2. I've not played the games myself, so I think someone else could go in depth with those games for you.

You'd probably enjoy the Shadow Hearts series, Shadow Hearts : Covenant more than the original as it has more of a mainstream RPG feel than the first.

Xenosaga is more comparable to an interactive film, rather than a videogame, as most people say. If you enjoyed this about FFVII, and enjoy an indepth storyline with loveable characters (all gameplay opinions aside), then you'd most definitely enjoy this game.

Thats a few examples I can list off of the top of my head that you'd probably enjoy. Happy hunting, and enjoy the games if you ever get around to playing them.

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I don't think the member who created this topic care if you like Final Fantasy VII or not.

lol, Yeah. The topic's question asked what game was most like FF7, not if FF7 was over-rated or not. XD

So to answer as simply as possible, FF8 is as close to another FF7 as you're going to get. The story and characters are vastly different...but everything else is pretty similar, with what is to me, an improved battle system. Following up after 8 is FF9. But, I guess it's pretty obvious that other games in the same series would be similar.

If you've already played the other FF's, I'd second the suggestion on all of what Vins mentioned.

In all honesty, I wouldn't recommend FFIX to an FFVII fan at all. Theres practically nothing similar about the games besides the general storytelling and name.

QUOTE (Vinsfeld @ Jul 1 2006, 07:27 AM)

In all honesty, I wouldn't recommend FFIX to an FFVII fan at all. Theres practically nothing similar about the games besides the general storytelling and name.

It's not a whole lot more different from 7 than 8 is, really. Maybe a bit harder, but plenty of similarities are still there. Storytelling, world map and airships, chocobo breeding/quest, and possibly a few slight similarities between character casts, etc. etc.. Not sure why you'd not recommend it, unless because of the difference in battle systems?

It's definitely more similar to FF7 than Xenogears or LoD, so I'm kinda puzzled by your logic.

The setting, mainly. Not to mention the overall design of the world, the characters, the maps, the airships, and the "maturity level" of the storyline. (while it gets more mature later on, I can't say it is quite at the start)
Though no debates need to ensue in a recommendation thread.

hey...I agree too if ff7 is overrated but im not saying it's a bad game..cuz i think it lacks of graphic quality...but the gameplay is good enough..but since im a big fans of final fantasy series,i recommend u to play ffx,x-2 and xii..i think they're better than ff7..u can try star ocean3:till the end of time,shadow hearts:covenant,tales series,kingdom heart 1n 2..they're good...

why dun u try dmc series??i think they're not bad...

Compared to today's level of graphics, but if you compare to the graphics of 1997, the year that FF VII came out, they were top-notch graphics.

Hm, I don't quite agree with that. Imo the graphics are quite sloppy, and I'd say even back then. I can think of other games from around that time that I think looked quite a bit better. FFVIII is what I would call a game with top-notch graphics for that time, but not FFVII.

o.O? FF VII was the first FF that Squaresoft, aka Squareenix, developed in 3D graphics. Of course FF VIII was better, they had more experience from FF VII, while FF VII, they didn't have any experience in 3D almost all games made by them were in 2D.

Lol, yes I know FFVIII was obviously better because of that. I'm just saying that FFVIII had what I would really call top notch graphics for its time, while I don't think FFVII did. I could have been more forgiving if they had at least tried to give the characters some decent proportions (instead of the completely messed up chibi design), but even the FMV scenes were rather poor. I know of other games from before FFVII's release that did it better than that.

I love Final Fantasy VII. People who say it is overrated... I can understand that, but I personally don't think so. It's an opinion, and what does it matter if it is overrated? If somebody likes it, they like it.

Anyways... the first game that came to mind is Final Fantasy VIII. It's fun, great story, etc.

Hmm... I haven't played many games lately, so I'm not sure what you should try. Maybe Dark Cloud? That's a fun game, except some things can get frustrating (Like if your awesome weapon breaks x.x)

Hmmm...Well, there are no exact games like it but there are other RPGs that are as good, if not better and surpass it in gameplay and storyline. If I were to suggest games it would be of the following series

- Wild ARMs
- Grandia ( Grandia 1 & 2 are the best of these series, 2 would be my recommendation )
- Disgaea
- Xenogears
- Growlanser Generations
- Lunar series
- Shadow Hearts series
- Kingdom Hearts series

Those would be my suggestions, KH isnt really turn based, but fun still

QUOTE (Xerno @ Jul 3 2006, 09:12 AM)

I know of other games from before FFVII's release that did it better than that.

Really? Were they full-length RPG's or was it some crap like Tomb Raider?

As far as I know, FF7 was the best of RPG graphics seen at it's time. It marked the transition from 2D to 3D in the FF series, and I don't recall anything else around really being much better in terms of visuals. It was only the early stages of Playstation, after all. But I don't claim to remember everything about that era. So if you can name other RPG's that supposedly looked "better" at, or prior to FF7's release, go right ahead.

No, you're right. It was some "crap" like Tomb Raider, though I loved that game back then. But that's besides the point. If another game from whatever genre can have decent FMV scenes, I can't say I'm impressed with the blurry stuff they threw at us in FFVII.

And to stay on topic: like quite a few have said before me, Xenogears would be a good choice to try next (it owns FFVII =p ).

Oh my god, what do you expect? It's a 1997 game for crying out loud, everyone was pleased with the graphics at the time but now there's new stuff out people despise it, and it doesn't deserve that, though the movies and new games are new (and the graphics on them are awesome) the original one is 9 years old!!!



Of course it did, it was one of the first 3Ds to come about and FF7 and FF8 are 2 years apart, which is plenty of time to advance in technology. Don't get me wrong, the graphic were absolutly awesome for the time for FF8 but saying FF7 wasn't is wrong, it doesn't deserve that, neither do the makers, know how long they spent on that game? To say at the time it's awesome and then turn around and say it's crap is uncalled for. I'm 12 and normally people my age hate crappy graphics? Yeah?Well not me I have total respect for game makers, Trying to make a website is hard enough, but a game?

Thats like saying the developers of Shadow Madness deserve a pat on the back for "spending so much time on the game" and "making such good graphics".

"You'll never believe how easy it is". - The writer for Shadow Madness, on creating its storyline.

Indeed, its not all that hard to make good graphics, its mainly about the physics involved with good graphics, but I have never had graphics as a top priority. I would rather play a game with the greatest story ever, but the worst graphics, then some game with amazing graphics where all you are doing in the game is literally running in a circle.

But, to get on topic, I would definitely recommend Xenogears as it does indeed own FFVII. However, to fully understand and get the most out of Xenogears, you might need to play through it more than once (I know I'm going for another round). But also, I would have to say Final Fantasy Tactics (again I thought it was better than FFVII). I havent really played too many ps1 rpgs because I started playing the ps1 rpgs about 2 years ago when I first got a ps2.


Do not think I am bashing FFVII with this, because It is still in my top 10 (actually probably top 15 now after finally finishing FFT).

Yes, FFT is very good, forgot to mention that one, but is it just me or do all the character faces that appear on the text sequence are the same but with different clothes/hair xD

well, can't expect much from way back, but FFT was very good for it's time. I dare to say that it was ahead of it's time, in terms of almost everything in the game, from the story to the graphics.