Yeah, so I was searching google to find out who Penance is in FFX (I am american, so I dont have the international version), and I came across this site about the best and worst of Final Fanasy and what I saw was very disturbing.

http://www.warmech.net/special/awards/awards.html

Now, before you start thinking, oh, just another person who doesnt like that someone else doesnt like FFVII, this is not what this is about (although its another reason because FFVII is definitely not the worst FF game), but if you scroll down to worst final fantasy side quest game, it has the runners up being the FFT and FFTA games. Now, I know FFTA is not that amazing, but if you then scroll up, you find that the runner up for best FF side quest game is Crystal Chronicles. I am pretty sure that FFTA is way better than FFCC and dont even get me started about FFT, because IMO, it is better than most regular FF games. What do you people who appreciate FF games think about this horrible misunderstanding (the one about FFT, not the one about FFVII being the worst.)

Lol, I remember Sonic posting that site in the shoutbox once. Well, I didn't check the whole list again this time, but I recall there was little I agreed with on that list. I don't pay much attention to those kind of things, they're often quite a bit off.

I personally can't comment on Crystal Chronicles (never played it) and since I don't like tactics games I didn't enjoy FF Tactics all that much (though I did play and finish the game).

I saw that list before. I think Sonic posted it in the shoutbox.

And saying that Omega Weapon "can and will rip you a new hole no matter how prepared you are for this battle" is weird, concidering that he has a pattern of attack. And if you know that pattern you can easily avoid getting killed.

I can't say I agree with a lot of things on that list though.

The entire list isn't that bad. Besides, you'll find an equal number of sites saying VII is the ULTIMATE peak for the entire series. So, yeah, you'll find people who say everything.

I realize that its not all wrong, but I do think its wrong to say FFVII is the worst FF and that FFT is the second worst FF side quest game, but, I do realize that FFVII should not be said to be the best FF either.

0.0 ... You know, I actually found this site a while ago (no longer than a week before you posted this, it seems), in nearly the exact same way that you did. XD (Was looking for pics of Penance via Google.)

Yeah, I really disagreed with a LOT of things that were said on there. To me, it seemed like the person was just a huge basher of FF VII (seeing as they placed it in nearly every "worst" category), and a big fan of the older games and FF X (to the point of being rather biased at times). Those aren't even the only games I disagree on, either. There are so many things that seem... well, "wrong," though I guess everybody has the right to an opinion, after all. *shrug*

There was a small handful of things that I could agree with, or at least understand, but a lot of it just looks like (extremely biased) bashing and overpraising to me. =\

I agree with most of the things posted except with Sephiroth beign runner up for best villain, but then i thought that for Final Fantasy, Sephiroth is a good nominee for that title, its not like we are talking Xenogears here.

Anyway i also didnt agree on having FFTactics as a bad side quest game, although it could be overrated, just not as much as FFVII. I do agree that the story on FFVIII was bad but I dont know where this guy takes that Final Fantasy means medieval setting to make it "less than a FF".

It was an interesting read though, and I like how he just bashed the hell out of Final Fantasy VII, a decent game that fanboys make bad with their whoring.

What I dont understand is why a game being overrated makes it bad, this guy obviously hates games that people talk about such as FFVII and FFT and as Razael said, I dont understand where this guy got the idea that a more futuristic FF makes it bad. But it is kind of funny how he bashes FFVII and the only reason he can give for it is that its very overrated. But, again, the only thing that really bothered me was that he said FFT was a bad sidequest game, as imo, it is better than most FF games in the series.

This guy is obviously and imbocile. He wrote it himself, he didn't take a survey or nothing and I find that stupid. He can't officially state which is the best game. Final Fantasy VII is actually my favourite and I think he has it in for it. Almost all the "Worst" awards he gave to Final Fantasy VII. Hell, in his list Final Fantasy X-2 beat Final Fantasy VII! Now that's just... well... no words for it

PS: Final Fantasy XI has the best graphics and then it's some of the early ones like IV that are runner up? What about IX and X? They've got the best graphics from there...

I shall quote Hain for effect:



ITs just his opinion. Do I think he is a complete imbecile because he didnt like FFtactics? No, i dont care. This list is his list because its his goddamn site, you can bitch and moan and fill his inbox with "OMFG DUDE YOU SUCK< FF7 RULEZZZZZ" but honestly, leave it be. Its his opinion, and if you have a site, then be free to say that Final Fantasy VII is the best damn piece of Software ever made.

On the graphics part, he took what was up there when those games were released. The only exception if FF7 in this department which looked like crap when it was released except for the backgrounds. Two years after they release FF8 which look so far beyond FF7 it hurt, they didnt even seem like they were in the same console. The first time i saw Donkey Kong Country i was blown away, he probably felt that way with his picks.

To back this up, take Super Mario RPG and a game like Arc the Lad Twilight of the Spirits, both good games on their own account, but Super Mario RPG looked incredible by the time it was released and it pushed the SNES engine to possibly its limits, while Arc the Lad Tots on the ps2 looked just current generation but nothing cutting edge.

The way I see it, the awards were just his opinions. Maybe he collaborated with a few other people but they're just his opinions. I don't exactly agree with everything he said, either, but there were times where I agreed with his choices of best and worst.

...and I love the fact that he thought that FF9 deserved a sequel! Woo hoo! XD

I read this months ago... and a lot of his oppinions are fairly justified. Of course he is very Anti-Final Fantasy VII but a lot of other ones I completly agree with. The only thing that I really found funny was FFIV winning best overall game... I might agree with him (I love FFVI) but his desription underneath just seemed wrong.


I agree that FFIV for me is the embodyment of Final fantasy but the story was anything but in depth and the characters had nothing to them. The battles were very symplistic, and while in the hard-type version there was an extra ability, most of these were severly useless (pray anyone?). Maybe if FFVII wasn't my first Final Fantasy and also my favourite I would say FFIV was the best, but not for those reasons. I think Rydia would be a good reason (First Female character with a strong personality).

I don't agree with it all, but he has a point with a lot of things. If he cut the anti-FFVII crap then I'd probably agree with his oppinion a lot more (Though I'm not saying it shouldn't have been in the worst catagory for anything, just not everything).
I find it funny how he says all the characters lack depth and made it the least entertaining game and yet Tifa is the best character? hmm...