I've recently got Lupe Fiasco's album, and I found someone I can really relate to and feel where he's coming from. Now, some of you know me, I'm black from the east side of Columbus, Ohio, one of the worst places in Ohio, so I'm into the hardcore gangster rap, my favorite rapper Jadakiss and all.

But, I was sorta like Lupe, not really an outcast, but still a little different than everyone cause I chose to pursue things that appealed to me, not to everyone else. And I heard "Kick, Push", and the song really moved me because it wasn't negative, and to me, the song is about finding your place in the world and still doing what you love to do, even though it's not right, or normal in the eyes of your peers.

So after hearing that song, I went out and got his album, and really found that he is real lyrical, yet he stays away from the violence and speaks on whats real and going on in the hood, and outside of it in the daily life of various people. So, I really enjoyed his music, and if you don't listen to any rap, "Kick Push" is one I think that anybody can listen to and enjoy.

So yea...

I'm not sure if the gravity on hardcore rap is heavy here in Dreamers. Although, I do listen to some rap. Only the real ones like Eminem and Eazy-E and ofcourse Wu-Tang. I say "real" because the artists who rap about grillz and salt shakers don't appeal to realism.

If Lupe fiasco is as good as you say, than I'll download a couple of his songs and see how it is.

Start off with "Kick Push"

Like I said, I don't see anyone really disliking that song if you actually listen to it's lyrics. Even the beat is good.

Well, I just downloaded it on LimeWire and it's pretty good. I like the line when Lupe says, "so come and skate wit me, just a rebel looking for a place to be", or something pretty close to that. The beat is really mellow which is what I like when it comes to rap.

I'm listening to it at this exact moment.

see? lol. I'm glad you're not closed minded lol. He has a song called handcuffs that I like alot too. I just got done listening to it. It's on a mixtape though...

nope...i assure you theres very few rap fans around..
and id hardly call Eminem a "real" rapper...
in the past 15 years, rap has changed for the worse...however i will admit to enjoying early Snoop Dogg once in a great while...

I've heard a few of his songs. Not very fond of the style. He reminds me of Mike Shinoda. The only song I've heard by him that I like is "Lupe the killer" but it's not really for the lyrical ability, but more so the actual music itself.

QUOTE (The Keeper @ Jul 17 2006, 01:15 AM)

the east side of Columbus, Ohio, one of the worst places in Ohio

Visit the east side of Cleveland some time. =)

QUOTE

I don't see anyone really disliking that song if you actually listen to it's lyrics.

I'm one of those who's not into rap, and the "message" of any lyrics isn't going to change that. I really don't listen to music for the lyrics. I'm in it for the sounds, good lyrics simply being a bonus rather than a requirement. Maybe that's just because I don't find myself so easily affected by words, whether musical or non, or whether or not it relates to me. There's few people I know of whom I take words seriously from. And those people aren't a musical artist writing the same old things in a different way, getting rich from those who he/she supposedly relates to.

So in short, I look for what sounds good to me, and I've rarely ever gotten into the sounds of rap. And that's especially true for "gangsta" rap.

Eh, I don't think I can respect the music reguardless of how good the lyrics are. If it's some guy from the " hood " then it's more than likely I'm not going to be able to relate to anything that artist might be trying to get across.

Rap just... Annoys me. The fact that it's generally not music created by a band of people playing real instruments kills any sort of idea that I would respect the genre. They just mix samples of other peoples music, and while I'm sure it's not terribly simple, it's just unoriginal to me reguardless of how they reshape it.

Also... The constant beating... People driving around with cars shaking from subs that just don't fit their weak sound system and do nothing but rattle and make terrible booming noises. I just don't understand the point of the music if your ears are going to be bombarded on by bass.

I don't know, I won't totally disreguard this. Give me a link to an MP3 or something and I'll listen to it, but I'm pretty sure it's not going to change my over all opinion on rap. I've heard enough of it in my day, going to pretty much an all white school where most of the guys thought they were black and would listen to all sorts of rap... And I have a good friend who is into a lot of hip hop and, I guess what you'd call hardcore rap ... So I've heard enough variety of the rap and hip hop genre to form a reasonably founded opinion.

I will admit to liking some Project Pat though, but that's only because he's ridiculous and makes me laugh.