psssssst i have a question...

uhm... why is everyone so pissy about people leaving, people not posting, running out of ideas, ppl making 'excuses'? i mean, its all really your guys's fault. think bout it

now i know im kinda biased b.c it just happened and im a n00b so no one's gonna listen to me but... grow some balls and finish reading the post

how is someone (me) supposed to join a thread and finish it all the way to the end before posting a new thread? its insane... theres so few active and good roleplayers on this site that theres all of what? 10 good threads? if that? and the post numbers are all up to like a hundred or more. so if someone (i) were interested in doing it right they would have to join the single near-joinable thread which may or may not be something they're interested in and resort to lackluster posts in order to churn out as many as possible. This detracts from the thread's goodness, the writers reuputation and the overall fun factor of roleplaying. how many ppl do you think sign up for this place, realize its hxc inclusive and then just throw in the towel and move on to another site? how many n00bs do u laugh at when they become inactive after 2 or 3 posts which are locked, mocked, moved, or (if they read the rules) not even put to paper as it were? i just think its kinda ridoculous

another thing, 'excuses'... grow up people. this is the internet, you dont know me, i dont know you. i could just grow bored of this thing, come back in three months and say i moved to Atlantis and couldnt find a starbucks with an internet connection to post from and u'd have to believe me... or risk discrediting your claim of hiking kilimanjaroo for the past few weeks. if someone likes to do this, roleplay, they'll make time and come back. now truthfully and honestly, i am 18, turning 19 in september, i go to eckerd college and am majoring in marine organic chemistry (high course load), i play rugby, sing in choir, and over my 'restful' summer i have been getting my scuba diving instructor certification (which i promise is no mean feat) while holding down a part time job so that i can pay for liquor while at school... i mean books. its hard and sometimes i go a few days without checking back, but i manage to find time between my busy schedule and xbox practice to come on here and write. b.c i enjoy it. if you enjoy it you stay, you find other ppl who are online and ask them how long they think they'll stick around... if they reply that they are going to kilimanjaroo soon, then just pass them over and move to the next person, eventually you'll find at least ONE person who feels like roleplaying. and while its not as fun with two ppl, at least you'll have some time for some fun.

finally guys, whats with all this hubbub about rule following???? every other post i read its about someone breaking the rules, and being reported or locked or HAHA LOOK ITS A N00B! and i'm not just complaining bout my situation, i read around and i see plenty of ppl who are just toting about rules as if they were zweihanders. who the flip cares about rules? are u telling me you all sit at home in your clean room, finishing your homework so that maybe mother will give u an extra scoop of sugar in tonights mash? rules, at least the kind of rules im for following, are meant in spirit. like rule #7 No Innapropriate posting... appropriately followed that rule means no freedom of speech... like this post... its a whiny monotonous rant, that is far too long... does that make it innapropriate? does that mean it too will be locked, mocked, or moved? just b.c i wanna be heard on my soapbox and all? and how bout that goddam goatloving motherhugging favorite rule of all? #4 ... obviously its meant for people who uh, write with crayons when they're not using a keyboard. now if its a consumate post... why does it need to be moved? and if it does need to be moved... just say its a crap post and move on. sigh.. im done now... i think

Hahaha, he's right. It's incredible how someone who hasn't been here very long can sum up the entire scope of the problems here while "veterans" have argued the points for months and months.

He's absolutely right, and I quote for effect .

Why do you think I stopped RPing here? It's because my time began being taken up by real things, that exist outside of a forum. And whenever I would dare to stop someone would hound me for days and days and give me the whole lecture about 'excuses' and 'it only takes 5 minutes to post' etc etc (Penguin*cough*).

The rules have always been created during times where there was a lot of activity and we needed new rules, but the rules were never relaxed during these quiet periods. When people who don't know any better come here with an idea, its closed and discouraged instantly and we never see that person again.

I mean, thinking about it now it's pretty obvious. How do you solve an inactivity problem? Bring in some new people. What have we done with most of our new people? Blown them off.

It's only a forum. Changing the rules a little won't spell massive irreversible disaster.

Think about it.

Good point. Perhaps that is why not many new roleplayers stick around. Thanks for bringing it up, I think I forgot about the very picky roleplayers since I'm a very non-picky one.


To tell you the truth, I have no idea how many abandoned this place because it seems exclusive. Again, I don't keep count of how many topics I have closed because of the 'no new roleplays that aren't vouched for' rule. And since I deal with them, I don't laugh at them. Except maybe in the instance when I saw a 'helo, im a no0b. wan rp?'. If you don't believe it, up to you. But I have closed a few of such topics.


That's why I said there are like millions of excuses out there. Honestly, I don't believe a good portion of the excuses I hear. The rest I believe only because I know the people better. If that's the way they want it, so be it. I've stopped caring about it for a long time now.


Sorry to say, I care for rules. They uphold some form of an order, which keeps peace and less trouble. Less trouble means less work for the moderator, and if the mod is me, it also means less headache and stress. Such a doormat I am.


Uh... what's the meaning of a consumate post?

The thing is, the rule is to prevent crappy posts. The rule used to not say anything about getting people to vouch for you, but it was changed to allow new roleplayers to post their roleplays. But recently I discovered that it isn't the easiest thing to do either. Maybe I should revise the rule as well so that the roleplays of better quality and potential can be posted.


I am thinking. But what my pessimistic self see is scratch off the 'have to have participated' and 'vouch by experience RPers' part, and let the decision rest solely on the moderator. Or should I set up a thread where roleplayers vote from a pool of new roleplays which they want and once a roleplay receives a certain number of votes, it goes up? Would that be better?

A thread like that would be unnecessary and slow down the entire process when you take a week to get everyone to vote. And you know how people are with good ideas. Once you're ready to go, you're ready to go! No use slowing things down considering the current rate of activity anyway. Pausing can make creators lose enthusiasm for their work.

I think its best off if you get to decide, Sel. All new RPGs should be PMed to you for approval and posted immediately if they are approved. As for people who are unaware of this kind of rule and post an RPG anyway, leave it open if the RPG would have been approved anyway. No use coming down hard on people just because they made a single mistake.

Encourage member enthusiasm, not strict rule following .

No.

We have rules for a reason, if you don't like it I'm sure you could find some forum that you'd find quite accomodating.

As for the" I have a life argument " .I worked full time, went to school, I hung out with my friends and went to parties, and I still managed to be one of the most active posters here.

Anyway, none of the rules are up for debate and we all know what sort of problems this topic is going to create, as it always has.

As for the RPing aspect... Why would you dedicate yourself to something you can give time to? Other people want the RP to run smoothly and enjoyably for everyone, and waiting on someone who said that they'd participate isn't enjoyable for those who are able to spend the time on the project.

We were all noobies at one time, had our threads locked and mocked... I delt with it, learned the rules and moved on.

Your grievances have been duly noted.

jesus brah, its ppl like u who really bring down a good vibe. change isnt always bad u know? and its not like u would have to deal with it personally? if u dont like it then u can make it official and delegate it to selina. or tell u what if u REALLY think its that harsh a hxc problem then leave it up to me. i've been roleplaying since i was a kid and im 19, perfectly capable of good writing and good management skills. its not a difficult thing to accomodate people.
the more ppl u turn away the more people you DONT have roleplaying.

Blood Rose, let's avoid attacking the poster. I know you don't like what The Evil Dead said, but people will have opinions you don't like. You can either ignore them or debate their opinions.

I'm no role player myself, but people should be encourage to stay on the forum, not scared off. If they make a topic here, don't post "It's against the rules", because many people still do that. Just report it and Seluna will get to the topic and decide what to do with the topic. I also think Seluna should decide if a person's RP should be posted or not.

Even though I'm not a role player, why does one have to complete an RP to make one? Most RP are far to deep for a person to join. If a good RP, then let it start up. What's the problem with that? Seluna could approve all the RP. Could be bias, but there should be no limit. Not sure why everyone bring up this clogging issue. Is that difficult to look for the RP you're in one the second page of the RP Forum?

Try to be more inviting. Seluna the moderator here and she's a nice girl and polite to everyone. So, be more inviting to a new member, even if they make a mistake.

Not much of my place to be speaking on this subject since I'm not interested in RP.

I'll give five dollars to the man who can point out the irony of this statement.

My points were being made as these rules have worked for us for awhile, if Seluna wants to change the rules then by all means discuss it here. If everyone is allowed to have their way though in this forum, it could become one hell of a mess. We can't just let people run around saying " omfg letz rp sum final fansty u cna b seph " or such madness, there has to be some form of rules reguarding the creation of a roleplay.

ill give 6 dollars to whoever can spot the irony in these statements

maybe if you were up to date, u would realize that im not running around n00b posting. i wrote two comsumate posts, the both of which were locked and mocked. im not complaining about the fact that they were, im complaining about the fact that the second one was admitted to be a good piece of work. if its a good piece of work then obviously its not a n00b post and so it should be allowed. and it appears that everyone who has posted in reply to this idea is in favor of changing it except for one. and that one belief is clinging to the grandfather idea of, i walked 10 miles uphill to school bothways everyday!! change is good. progress is better. and i really cant believe you would rather have 5 ppl following the rules Orwell-style then 50 ppl having a good time

show me someone capable of deciding whether somethings good or bad i'll show u someone who is capable of deciding whether somethings allowable or not.

Its not already? Hahahaha.

These rules were made a long time ago, before Eva or TED even came to this board. They were made as to get people used to Dreamers style of roleplaying, which is, for the most part, quite different from other places. But anyways, we had a different style, thats why Sel made the freeform RP's, after all. To help people out, even if it was "Dreamers Style Lite".

To be honest, I think members of the RP'ing community should reply to this, not members of the staff. Its their forum, and when I was the temp. mod, I followed their rules. Barely any of them have replied, which says more about the "rp community" then anyone else here. They are the important ones here, not TED, or Eva. (for the record, Missus Rose )

What am I talking about? The last time I rp'ed here was years ago. I don't have a place to talk either.
Be on my way now.

I think it's irrelevant to bring up "That's how things have been done." or "This how things have been done before you even join." That mentality shows you're no open to change. Nobody should care about "That's how things were done way before you joined." The old ways are not always the best ways.

I agree with your second statement, Vinsfeld. The RP community should response. When the forum had no moderator, I basically told them they can setup this forum how ever they like. I didn't get one reply from them. Only two people PM and that was asking for a moderator and one asking to me if he can make a topic, which I allowed since I said they can run this forum how ever they like.

I'm just a regular member in this topic. I replied in this topic as a member, not as the administrator or as a staff member. This is a forum after all, so people should post their opinions.

In the end, role players control this forum. They can do they want with it, if the majority can agree upon it. Though, the lack of replies during Seluna's first run, Vinsfeld's temporary run and role players' run don't show much.

Vinsfeld, this a topic of discussion. Everyone can post their opinions.

I'm just a member commenting and nothing more than that.

I don't really have any interest in RP'ing either, but I've heard plenty of whining by the active RP'ers here about low activity. So obviously, those said rules haven't "been working out well for a while now".

I'd suggest just setting some base requirements for RP-making, and approving them based on that, Sel. I know if I were a new member looking for an RP, I wouldn't want to have to jump in one that's half way through, having to read up on page after page, or have to wait for a new one to start...more options are needed for new members. And that's all I'll say in here, lol.

Your lifestyle and timetable doesn't work for everyone here, either.


JD-san summed it up quite well. More options are needed for the new members who want to RP, and so far the current rules aren't doing the job. If the rules are set up to help maintain a healthy stream of RP activity without flaming or character misuse, then they need to be changed if their not working, so we can get that healthy stream of activity back.

In a sense, the rules of the RPing forum are very situational. And besides, who are these rules supposed to police anyway? The megabytes of old posts?

So yeah, I'm suggesting that there needs to be a rule reform in this forum, if anyone hopes to bring back activity. Not saying it will happen over night, but we need to do something about it other than just talk, and talk and talk and talk and talk.

Just remember, changing the rules doesn't mean changing the entire Dreamers RP style either, Vins.


I definitely agree, Eva. The old ways don't always work.

Ok, it scares me how many non-active roleplayers and people not interested in the RPG section are responding to this topic. I agree with Eva and Vins, active members of the RPG section need to speak up.

First off, I'll response to Blood Rose's rpg issues. Your first RPG was closed mainly for the fact we already have a very similar RPG ongoing. In fact, I'm one of the people who brought it to the mods attention. I did not send you a private message because it is not my place, it is the mod's job. I can not say anything about your second RPG, I never read it.

As for the rules, everyone here who knows me knows I'm a stickler for rules and procedures. I believe the rules are invaluable to this section of the forum. They serve to keep the forum nice and tidy, I remember before we instituted the rules this place was a mess (kinda how it got in Seluna's absence). I think we need rules, and thereby to enforce them, to keep everything from descending into chaos.

That being said however, I am not against changing the rules to reflect current situations. Rule 4 was established to keep anyone who we did not think could handle it from creating an RPG (and thereby creating something that hurt to even read, and yes there have been things posted here that hurt me to read them). But, due to the lack of activity, there are not many RPGs for people to join which defeats the purpose, we can not see how they roleplay if they never roleplay. Since Seluna has to approve all new RPGs anyway, I agree that Seluna should be able to filter out good newbie posts and bad ones. My vote is we amend that rule.

I’m currently at work, but will try to respond later to the actual inactivity issue itself.

Shadows

JD-chan got it right. ^^ That's what I have been overlooking all this while, the rules being too forbidding towards the new roleplayers that we should attract.

The rules used to work, but now that we realise that there is a problem, there are reasons for it to be changed to work better for the community. So like Tim said, why not? But I'm not saying that I'll relax them totally and let all kinds of nonsense run rampage over this place.

I'm not exactly willing to put the entire approval thing on the moderator (aka me, right now). For one, I'm worried about the workload and being biased. Then, I thought about it and remembered that there is the problem of when the mod goes inactive or the modspot is empty. There were two or three seperate occasions like that before while I'm here RPing and RPers don't know who to go to for creating new RPs.

And yes, I would very much like to hear the opinions of the RPers. I have no idea why only Shadows have responded. I will really appreciate it if the RPers speak up about this, because it concerns the entire RP community. Like I said, I'm not likely to want to change the rules again later.

Regarding the approval topic thing, I'm thinking of implementing basic RP creation guidelines, and a minimum of... maybe 3 approvals from known RPers. It doesn't matter if the RP creator is a new or veteran RPer here. And I'll just be deleting the RPs that don't meet the basic guidelines. Don't worry, it won't be anything very strict.

If the feedback is positive towards having the topic, I am considering giving it a trial period before I change the rules. If everybody thinks I should approve all future new RPs myself, so be it. But there will definitely be a change to the rule concerning roleplay creation.

*Edit* Ack, Shadows you posted before me! XD

I hope we don't continue to beat a dead horse - it really isn't conducive to productivity at all. If you're too busy to post here...*rolls her eyes*

So, anyway! Question!

Sel - If someone has an idea for a RP but doesn't wish to run it (however, is willing to participate) because they don't feel comfortable coming up with a driving plotline to keep it alive (I'm really only good at settings and character developement =\)...got any suggestions what that person could do?

Uh... that's what I did with Moonseeker and Dragon vs Phoenix. Lol. I did not form any plot for them until later, and a good part of it is developed on the go.

Anyway, to answer your question, RP creators need not be in control if they don't want to. You can find somebody to manage it for you, or you can just leave it in the hands of the RPers participating, and hope that nothing goes too wrong. ^^;

You can state all that from the start so that they know. But you have to know that sometimes the RPers will want to rely on you even if you don't want to manage it.

*Editted* I would like all posters to take note NOT to discuss whether another person is worthy of making an opinion here or not. Everyone can speak their mind, unless you think you can't.

That's the problem though....I'm afraid if I leave it as it is and just tell everyone that I have nothing besides that...it'll be a waste of time. I think a plot would be more engaging. The other problem is I don't know who to ask for help running it. xP

Maybe a topic for just RP ideas and adoption? xD Haha, but that would probably just be a waste, wouldn't it, or no?

I suppose I could just keep the RP idea in mind and hopefully an idea for a plot will come up.

Thanks, Sel!

It's a fine idea, I just don't know if it will indeed be wasted or not. I have piles and piles of ideas sometimes, and they became RPs after I got sick of repeating them in my mind >.> but they haven't seen daylight yet. I think some of their plot sucks too.

Hmm... when you mean plot, do you mean background story or the intended path for the RP to take?

so. it's miniseason for lobstering... and i work at a diveshop... which is essentially like christmas for a toy store... so ive been realllly busy, i still am actually (at the store, but i got a break and im on the office computer) ANYways. are the rules changed yet? if so what are the new ones? if not, what are we waiting for and what needs to be done for them to be changed?

I'm all in for some referbished rules even though I'm not an experianced RPer.
I think the only thing that needs to be done now (and I hate having to repeat this) is to create a topic, rather than this one, on the issue. This way its a fresh start and people aren't having to come in here and read the 2 pages.

As requested, a new topic has been created. Beware of spicy language though.

LINK

Sorry to those who have already spoken. If you don't mind, please vote in that topic. You don't have to respond to my post if you don't want to, but if you want to, *shrug*.

Oh yeah, from now on, this topic will be discussing other thing. No more on the change of rules thing.

It's kind of both, but mostly a background story...maybe I should just make a topic - it'd probably would be easier and better than doing nothing. Again, thanks, Sel!

Just a question. What sort of roleplays would you guys like to play now? I have several created but not yet posted, and I dunno which is better to put up.

Hi, all, I'm Ember, and I'm a newb who wants to roleplay. I was reading through this topic, and thought maybe I should add something? (As I understand, we can still talk about roleplaying here, just not the changing of the rules)

I don't know anything about the old system, or even if it's still in play. But I really want a decent place to roleplay. So I googled fantasy style RPs, and this website was one of many. This is the only website I joined out of those I found, because many of them had ridiculous rules like "you can only play as your own gender" (I don't like playing females, I always make them cutesy annoying ones, think Serra from Fire Emblem, because that is really the only type of female character I like and identify with) I just don't think I am any good with girls. Other sites also demanded payment, some were too weird for words...

I have signed up for two RPs here which are in incubation, and am eager to start, but it looks like these RPs have been in incubation for a while. And both look so interesting...

And it is true, as a newb, I don't want to start in the middle of a big RP, that's why I didn't sign up for any. I would rather be there from the beginning. And it would be nice to have the option to start my own roleplay should I want to, but it looks like they are inactive as it is, so I am content joing the two that I have.

I haven't exactly been shunned. But only one person responded to my introduction thread, which was mandatory, otherwise I wouldn't have made it. Only Seluna and two others has responded to me. I have to say, this is not the most newbie friendly place I have ever been.

To answer your question, Seluna, I like pretty much any kinds of RPs. I have been wanting to try a post-apocolyptic one (sort of like Digital Devil Saga or such) But I actually like the one you are working on now, about the demons and the last human stronghold. It's pretty much post-apocolyptic. I like desperate, war torn lands, and lots of bad situations with people all uniting together to overcome it. That's why I love RPGs so much. (And just so you know, the Fire Emblem and Suikoden series are my most favorite) I like large casts of characters, but I don't like characters without depth.

Mostly, I just want to interact with others in a fantasy world, playing all kinds of different characters (I try to be a completely different type of person each time) that is the best part for me. I don't understand why it's so inactive here, when there are so many people that sign up for some of the RPs... I read through a lot of the Heaven/Hell one, and it had so many people signed up, yet it was dead after a short while... That's sad. I don't even think every person who signed up role-played. I would have joined, but I don't like to start things from the middle, and it looked much too...hectic. I agree that rules are needed.

Sorry for this long post... I may have more views later (that I have forgotten)

I agree we are not the most newb friendly forum (especially this part of the forum), but we are trying. If you stick around long enough you will see why we have some issues. (You now have to have someone respond to your intro before you can join??? When did that start?)

Sadly activity in the RPG section has dropped significantly as of late. Most of the RPGers here were of the "Old School" group that has grown up and moved away (*sniff* they never call.) Even I was gone for a period of almost a year. Life just happens.

As for the incubation sub-forum, it takes a while for a reason if no one is willing to play the RPG it should not be posted. But, do not worry I have a feeling "Choice and Destiny" will meet the minimum limit very soon. A bunch of us just trying to find time to get our profiles up.

I understand not wanting to come in the middle of an RPG, but Undead Cowboys and Dragon vs Phoenix really just started (even though D vs P is in the third chapter) and I belive both are still open (I have it on a really good source for Undead Cowboys).

So just stick around, participation in this section tends to come in waves. I know it's been really low here lately, but the tide always goes out before the tidal wave hits.

Shadows

I am not bitter about the lack of friendliness, as long as there are a few kind souls, I will usually stick around. (I don't like the Narutofan forums at ALL, they are rude, mean, and immature--but that hasn't been the case for me here yet)

What happened to make you distrust newbies, anyways (if I may ask)? I want you to know that I have some experience, if not as much as some of you here, but I am not a COMPLETE newb in the ways of RPing itself. You don't have to worry that I will spam the RP or write meaningless posts. And, to answer your question, Shadows, no, it is not mandatory to have someone respond, but to post the introduction--that has never before happened to me. I was just saying, if it wasn't mandatory to write the intro, I probably wouldn't have, unless they had an entire thread dedicated to that sort of thing (which is what I am actually used to).

I liked the idea for "Choice and Destiny" but when I first came to this forum, I thought I wouldn't be allowed, since it was run by a moderator. So, at first I was a bit hesitant to join it. But after reading through the entire thread, I felt I should at least try. I was honestly afraid I wouldn't be allowed. I have never actually been turned down before when trying a part for an RP, but I have only participated in about ten or so... And some of those were anime/game RPs, where you play the part of the character you choose (for example--my first RP ever, I played as Kiba and Akamaru from Naruto). Those are really fun to play, but not as creative. I like to take the time to make my own character, specially designed for a role play.

Yes, I had read the Dragon vs Phoenix RP, but I could see that it was a part from a longer series, so I decided not to impose. I did not read the Undead Cowboys though, I thought it was an all humor, crazy free-for-all like the Heaven/Hell one, which isn't to my taste. (Though I did find the Potato Salad of Justice and God characters to be hilarious) I guess I should check it out (the Undead Cowboy one, I mean).

I probably sound like a real nerd, but I was reading a lot of the other RPs to get a feel for how it is done here. So please excuse my intrusion, if you hadn't wanted me to read them. ^^;

Thanks for the time!

If we didn't want them read, we wouldn't have kept them around, eh? There's a whole archive of the past RPs in the RP Archive Forum that you're free to indulge in until you can recite them if you want. ^^

So no, you're not a nerd, at least to me. ^^;I was known at my old RP circle to have wadded through 120+ pages of a roleplay, complete with spammish OOC posts, few liners and an insanely long signature. I had a lot of time then though.


Actually, it's more because of the elitist thinking that is built in into fondation of this community. Perhaps the old veterans' logic is to have the new member prove that they could be trusted as decent roleplayers before the member is sort of welcomed into the community. We do have some sort of a standard, after all, and the general thinking then was 'no nonsence please'. Maybe they got tired of all those simple very very short RPs with something like 'I'll take Sephiroth. Anyone take Cloud plz?" that got posted. *shrug*

I think some of such thinking still exists, though maybe on a way smaller scale. If you think now is bad, try last time. There was a minimum character limits of 1500 when I joined, and it even went as high as 2500 (or was it 3000?) at one point of time (crazy Penguin). But the roleplayers then was really good, and I'm glad I endured.

But that sort of thing won't work if we want more new members, no? So that's why I gradually lowered the standard and very recently changed the rules. I should have got it changed earlier, but I haven't been a newbie for so long that I couldn't empathise. I hope that all this that I have done will encourage more players to come and stay, and for the old roleplayers to return if they want a relaxing place to RP or something.


Uhh... why are you hesitant to join it because I created it?

I didn't mean any offense. I was just nervous because I thought the rules would be very strict, and that I might not be good enough. ^^; Plus, I was worried that my choice to be a pretty boy wouldn't be allowed. This one girl I knew told me that she thought that girls who liked pretty boys must be shallow, and that people only use them to get ratings from the girls, who are, supposedly in her point of view, the main people who read manga. I know role playing and manga are not the same at all, but ever since then, I avoided the whole pretty boy thing because I thought others thought like she did. In my own point of view, I like pretty boys, but I like the ones with quirky personalities, or just a special something that makes them likable. I generally don't go for the prettiest boys anyway.

So, it had nothing to do with you, and just a lot to do with my low self-esteem. *laughs* Wow, 3000 words? Just...wow. I write stories sometimes for fiction press and I thought I was dedicated by writing 2500 words per chapter every week or so. They were pretty strict.

Of course, I will still write a lot, but as I read the RPs you have up, I noticed that you sometimes made other's characters do stuff or say stuff. I am a little worried I will mess up your characters (or maybe you might misunderstand mine?) But I guess that's what the EDIT function is for. I won't hesitate to tell you something is wrong, if you do the same for me.

The rules are... to quote Pirates of the Carribean... 'just guidelines'. Don't worry so much about them, they are all fairly reasonable and logical (of course, I revised them ).


I think she who has such thinking is shallow. To judge people because they like pretty things is just plain stupid.

If I'm to follow her thinking, I'm possibly the most shallow person in this entire forum, since I have a reputation of being the resident bishonen (pretty boy) lover, and my list that is over a few hundred is beyond my ability to count by now. >.> I have reason to not like this girl.

So conclusion, go ahead and use any pretty boy or girl you like. Unless your characters for all roleplay has Sephiroth or Cloud hairstyles, names, swords... we don't really mind. ^^


Uhh... 3000 characters. As in individual alphabets (and spacing?). ^^;; It's a lot a lot shorter than 3000 words, maybe just around 500 or so.


^^ That's the right attitude, use the EDIT button! xD

Most RPers here are alright with other's using their characters, though some may be a bit more sensitive about it. But generally, if you are really unsure, you can try letting them know. ^^

HEHE... I loved the Pirates of the Carribean... ^^ And I am not as worried and anxious as I was before. I am feeling a lot more comfortable here now.

And as for the whole pretty boy (or bishonen--if you prefer) thing, I don't personally think a person is shallow for having an appreciation for pretty things, either. I told her pretty much what you said, about how she must be the shallow one for judging people on their love of bishonen. She saw the point, and she quit saying things like that. She even denied that she was saying that, and tried to come up with some reason for it, and I didn't say anything to her about it. She already knew that I knew, so what was the point?

Ah, yes, 3000 characters is much different than 3000 words! Phew! I was freaking out there for a moment. *laughs* I was thinking you guys must be very dedicated to write chapter length posts--every time you posted--that would be pretty impressive... but maybe a little too much to digest?

I don't mind if people use my character in moderation, as long as they have an understanding to how he/she might act in a situation. And like I said, if they do something wrong, I will tell them and maybe the next time they need to use the character, they will have a better understandiing of him/her.

I was discussing an issue with Sel earlier and was wondering whether the rest of you <Dreamer's Rpers> want to have a "RP Review/Feedbacks Thread".

Since our OOCs/ICs doesn't really allow such reviews to be writen within them( because it'll be kinda hectic and 'redundant' in a sense) we can have a thread where not only our Rpers, but also the non-Rpers in Dreamers who happen to read our posts(hopefully), to give feedbacks about our recent posts.

The idea is to improve our post-style or just simply feel good by reading comments like "nice plot, or wowzer kinda stuff'. However, there'll be limitations to what one can say in the review. For example, there shouldn't be any flaming but constructive criticism. If you want to drop a 'quick review', at least post a sentence rather than a few words like 'your post was interesting!' Of course, if we were to put all our RPs into one review thread, then when a person gives a review about a particular RP, should specifically mention the title of it, eg.

Choices and Destiny<blah blah blah's post>: the part where <insert character name> does <insert action> was hilarious! <optional to put your own advice> look forward to your next post...

Reviews may be good, yea, it may point out errors in the post<from small to large>, motivates the RPer to produce a better post and be more active and such, but there's also the possibility where the results maybe quite the opposite.

This is just a suggestion xD, so what do you guys think about it?

I like the idea very much (I just hope I don't get any "ew you suck"s!) Because I would cry. But I think it's a very good idea, to have people help make more quality posts and be better RPers. I would really like advice (or to advise, if need be) so that I know what I am doing wrong, and how to improve upon it. (Cause I know I'm not perfect) It's kind of like having a bunch of editors!

How would it work, exactly though? Just a thread called "RP Review/Feedbacks Thread"? And they specify which posts they liked? (Or didn't like?) Hopefully, people wouldn't be too lazy to say anything, or that would defeat the whole purpose...

But I like the idea... I wonder what others will say... (cause I am just a newb... ^^; )

Well, we don't exactly have to do 100% according to what our reviewers say. Sure, we can take advices, but that doesn't mean we have to do them, after all, each of us have our own styles of posting. Perhaps a specific advice that has been pointed out commonly by different people is definitely worth adapting a change to.

As for how it'll work, either we can cluster everything together, or we can categorize threads<have them pinned> into seperate sectors individually like "Reviews on <Insert On-going RP's name>" and "Reviews on RPs on Archives"

Also, if you don't like the idea of having a review thread, but let's say majority of us vouch for it. You don't have to leave the RP forum because of this reason, you can simply just ignore the Review Threads. Although you'll be missing out<on tips and stuff or how good your post was>, but at least you won't feel that discomforted. That's one of the main reason why the review thread is seperated from the OOCs and ICs, so we can easily find our RP-related plot discussions and not see the reviews in there.

I always like feedback on how I'm doing. So the idea of a review thread sounds like a good idea to me, in theory.

The problem is with the general lack of activity in the RPG section who is going to be using a review thread? It seems most of us are just trying to get occasional posts up in the RPG themselves and do not have time for much else.

Do members have time to go around and read the other RPGs to comment on them? If the answer is no, then the only reviews you would be doing are on the roleplays you are active in, in which case that would belong in that RPG's OCC thread.

I like the idea, but I think unless we can really say it is going to be used, we should not create a thread for it.

Bottom line is it has my vote. I like the concept even if we are a bit low on active memebers at the moment. If we do not have enough attention to get it done I think it is a good idea that I will work to implement in my OCC threads from now on.

Nice idea guys.

Shadows

i always lik to join in one of the Rpgs here... But my i'm always afraid to do so cuz my Engrish sarks =[
But i always lik the idea of making an rpg with totally no restrictions besides Vulgarities,Spamming, and obscene language... everythign will be jus Pure Randomness and chaotic. A member can changes his role into someone else anytime they want to =P but i dun think its even possible though =|

Bloo...

Well Bloo... that's actually possible, but will depend on how the roleplayers want to play out the roleplay. That's what the freeform roleplays are about, anyway. Maybe I should have a new one up or something.

Good idea ^-^... well Erm... Maybe you can make something more... erm... modern xD... i mean around the 90s? 80s? lol... too much dragons knights and magic might be a little... lol...

btw... My Engrish really sarks... lol i am a vely typical singarpolien xD... can i still join =[...

Bloo...

Just try your best. ^^ I joined roleplays also for improve my english, or at least keep it at some standard. I'll see what I can do for a new freeform RP.

I am a little nervious and embaressed to ask but I think there is a need for my to understand this segment of the forum more. So sorry to even ask but, how do these Role Play Work and Function?

I am new to forums so I have to apologise and ask about these so call "Role Play" or "RP" most people here addresses. It sounded like a Forum "Role Playing Game" or "RPG" to me. Is it like a certain board game with rules and regulations to follow in order to play? Do I actually need to constantly pay attention to the "Game" to win?

I have tried to read the guides, but these guides leave me clueless to understand "RP" more.

My Apologies,
Yang.

Perhaps you should read the OOC and IC of a roleplay to understand better, if the FAQ is confusing. Are you familiar with DnD, or by RPG you mean the sort we play on consoles?

I rather like the idea of having a roleplay review thread, although it would get a bit confusing if they all were simply thrown into one thread. I know there are some areas that I am weak in, but it would be nice to get a more opinions on what I may improve in.

Maybe this will help bring the ideal of the rpgdreamers roleplaying cult down a little?
Or.... not. Don't know. ^^;

A roleplay review thread would be great![color=#FF0000]

I've looked around for something similar, but almost all of the reviews I can find seem biased toward one particular genre or another.

Understandable, every roleplayer has thier favorite, but it'd be nice to find one a little less fanatic, focused more upon the basics of roleplaying.

I'm not a patient person, and Vex Core has been gone long. My character shouldn't violate any of the rules, and i've been waitin a while. Can I just start?

Yeah Sel, I know you may not want to, but you may have to make a call on this. Who knows when Vex might come back, let the guy start, I'm sure Vex wont mind.

Sel is on vacation... Go ahead and do it. I doubt anyone will really mind.

Oh Goodie! This fills me with the Christmas spirit!!

SWEET JESUS WHY DOES IT HURT SO!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!

Uhh... I'll just confirm that I'm fine with that decision made when I was gone. Vex actually did give me the authority to approve characters for DvsPIII though I usually leave it to him, so I'm not actually overriding him if I okay this.

Are there any rules to role playing? Like to I have to post my character profile first then my layout and if people join then maybe we can proceed? That's what one site made me do and it was such a pain in the ace I left.

Also are there any role plays I can join now? Or are they all pretty much already gotten into?

And if I did make a role play how many people would join you think if it was a good enough story-line? Are people already wrapped up in several other rps right now?

I'll help. I like to think I know enough to help some people out.

Yes, for the most part, you have to post your own character profile first. All the RPs up now have you do that, but if you make your own, you might be able to. I dunno about that.

The layout thing has me a weeeee bit confused. Explain what you mean by that.

I think all of the RPs can be joined at anytime here. Of course, it's bad to jump into something that's towards the end of the plotline, and others don't have all that much activity...like mine (T.T)

It really would depend on what type of role play you like. If your more into Sci-fi, Earth 2239 is geared towards that, but I think I'll need to reevaluate it and restart it with a better plotline, more realism, etc.

If your more into taking things on existing stuff (like TV shows), there are RPs for that, and then of course there's the freeform RPs, and those can be fun if you get into character.

If you do have a good idea for a RP, then by all means, go for it. But i've noticed that people here enjoy fantasy far more than a realistic RP. Even realistic RPs have some twist of fantasy to them (Dragon v Phoenix is one).

If you do start one, expect to start it again, unless you've done alot of these in the past.