Personally, it's fine if a religious value of "homosexual is wrong" was brought into your life as you grew up, as long as you don't go out openly and say: "You are going to sin and going to hell because you are a homosexual person." It is your religion. You were taught that way. Should we judge a person because he or she was brought up to be like that?

Such opinion should be kept within you. What you think is your own personal business. But to offend others openly with your own religious values is just wrong.

Other than that, the "right or wrong" perspective is totally up to the person. There is no right or wrong, only whether if you accept it or not.

But my case it's wrong. I tend to be attracted to women instead.

What's your take on this?

But isn't that a little hypocritical? Saying we should keep it to ourselves, then asking us the question? But yeeeah... I think it's lame to ask whether it is right or wrong. I don't say you're lame, just the question is. It's not fair to call someone "wrong" because their nature is different than ours. That's stupid and unfair.

Well, let me put it this way.
I think it's "wrong" only in the way that God made man and woman to be compatible, and the only way for humanity to reproduce. Some say homosexuality is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. I'm not sure how it is though. But I definitely don't think it's wrong for people to live their lives as homosexuals. Do whatever makes you happy, and no one should be forced to deny their emotions or stop being themselves just because of what other people say or think about it. But to me it's never been something I could understand myself.

*sigh* Nobody ever gets very far in a conversation about homosexuality. But here:

Personally, I'm a christian. I don't think that it's necessarily "right" for two men or women to be together, and not to make this philisophically weird or anything, but what is "right"? It seriously is the decision of the people involved; that's the way it always was. I have a few gay friends and I don't have a problem with any of their sexual preferences. I do believe that it's a sin, but they don't seem to, and I wouldn't codemn them for it.

Basically.

No one can really argue the point that anything not affecting you is "wrong", but I'm definitely against any sexual relationship without a vagina somewhere in the mix. But to each his own I s'pose.

I agree that these types of topics can get out of hand very fast, especially when people get very mean about their beliefs. I think we already have enough stupid people making children. There are all kinds of children without parents, or with horribly abusive parents who lock them in closets and kill them. People being gay is hardly a horrible issue or a horrible sin. If it does count as a sin, big deal, right? Lying and cheating and stealing are sins commited everyday and they don't seem to get the crap that homosexuals do.

Really, there are a lot worse things to be then gay. And some of those nice gay couples can raise those parentless children just as well as those single parent homes and such. I don't know why it's such a big thing...

I don't think homosexuality is wrong as long as it isn't forced upon anybody. The same way hetrosexuality is wrong if it is forced upon somebody. In this day and age alot of people get curious about their sexuality and some homosexuals take advantage of that. To be perfectly honest, as long as a guy doesn't try to pull me and women continue to find me attractive (I hope they do) I don't mind what goes on. What happens to them is their choice as is what they do with their bodies and if it is none of my concern I wont pass judgement.

Switch!

This falls into my " Do whatever you want, so long as it doesn't effect me " stance on life. If people wanna be gay or ##### people of the same sex, then good for them I guess.

So many people make too much of a deal out of this. I'm tired of seeing religious groups and close minded people freaking out because people they don't even know or care about are hooking up with the same sex.

I agree with Ember, there are a lot more things out in the world that are worse than two men being together. There are mass murderer's on the streets and drug dealers, I'd say that's a lot worse than two guys holding hands.

You can't help who you are attracted to. There is a very simple way to look at the situation. If you are heterosexual, you can't wake up one day and say, "Okay, I'm going to be gay today!" If you are homosexual, you can't wake up one day and say, "Okay, I'm going to be straight today!" (Note: I'm not even going to go into bisexuality here, because that's something that is entirely different from the topic at hand.) Whom you're attracted to is beyond one's control, so it seems kind of silly to label one's attraction as being "wrong" when human attraction is immutable. White people can't change the fact that they are white; black people can't change the fact that they are black; hispanics can't change the fact that they are hispanic; asians can't change the fact that they're asian. It's clear that is wrong to discriminate against features that are uncontrollable--features that are innate in a human being--so why would homosexuality be any different?

In the church, I don't feel that homosexuals should be given the right to marry, and that's for one simple reason: marriage is defined as the union between man and woman. Homosexual partners obviously do not fit those qualifications and therefore should not be able to break a rule that has been so forcefully engrained in the church for aeons just because they want equal rights. I do, however, believe that homosexual marriage should be honored by the state because homosexuality is an expression of freedom. Just as it was wrong to deny women the right to vote, just as it was wrong to deny blacks just about every freedom under the sun, it is also wrong to deny homosexuals the freedom to be recognized as a married couple by the government.

I think it's wrong and it's sin. I don't think people are forced to be gay. I think people have a choice. If you ask me "Do you think gay people would go to hell." I'd say yes. But it's not the only thing that gets you there. But I do not "hate" gay people.

Show me anywhere in the bible, new testament and old, where it flat out says that.
From what I've researched, for christians, it all depends on who you believe more. God, or Man.
But I'm not exactly christian myself.

As for the topic at hand, well, I think it'd be pretty odd for me to hate gays.

Oh, and Aidan, I think its more comparable to whether you are right handed or left handed, rather than black or white.

For me whether being gay is right or wrong is nonissue. It's biological.

Gays can't help being gay.

One of my friends in college (OSU) was part of study done on gay sheep, and it was persuasive enough for me. I have read about experiments on rats, where you can actually make them "gay" by changing their hormonal status when they are very young. Pretty interesting stuff actually.

While human differ in their ability to make decisions, I see no reason why a person should deny what they are. If the entire society was switched, where being gay was the norm and hetero was condemned by a large number of people. I still don't think I could stand to be sexually intimate with a woman, why should I pretend for the sake of other's comfort and why should I be denied the happiness of long term relationship (and yes sexual relationship) and family? If I wouldn't like to be denied these things because of other's religious views, then I shouldn't do the same to them.

"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you"

I pretty much agree with TED on this one...



I also happen to have a couple of close friends who are lesbains... but I love these people and their sexuality has never been an issue. I'd be lying if I said that over the top flamboyant gays don't annoy me... but it's not the fact that they like other men that bothers me at all, that isn't even an issue.

I am a catholic and even though my religion says otherwise I think whoever a man or a woman wants to have sex with is their own damn business as long as it is not completely incomprehensible (i.e. if a guy wants to ##### a goat, I dont think thats precisely good).

Sure, i was brought up with the idea that homosexuals are wrong, but who am i to say that, and the church shouldn't punish that either.

I like women but for those who like people of their same sex then to hell with it, leave them be. I dont think i would be totally comfortable watching two men kiss (two women I dont care as i have seen enough porn to not be affected by it and actually be turned on) but its none of my business.

For me to think that everybody should be straight would be like non smokers or vegetarians enforcing their beliefs on me. So to hell with all, people can chose which sex then want to have sex with.

Well, I found homosexuality weird, and I also wouldn't be comfortable to see two men or woman kissing.
But people have the right to choose which sex they want to be with. They should be able to marry if they want, but I don't agree that homosexuals should adopt children. ( Imagine a kid having two moms or dads). That could cause psychical problems to kids, and they could also have problems in society ( at school, etc) because of their parents.
And for the end, I don't misrespect ( hope it's the right word) homosexuals. I think they should be respected just like every other kind of people.

QUOTE (Rhadamanthus @ Nov 25 2006, 12:10 AM)

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I think it's wrong and it's sin.

Show me anywhere in the bible, new testament and old, where it flat out says that.

Um...k.

QUOTE (Leviticus 18:22)

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

"Flat out" enough for you? There's a few others I could look up if needed. Forgot where exactly they were.

Not that it matters in this debate, but you asked for it, so yeah. But if I recall correctly, the ones I can remember were generally aimed more against Male x Male though. I'm not sure if there's much in there on lesbians or not.

I want statistical proof, or hell, any sort of proof from any source besides your mind that this is true. Because to me, this doesn't seem logical. It seems asinine, really. Its just like "Kids turn out worse if they don't have both a mother and a father". Male and Female aren't quite as Yin and Yang as people would like to think.
Stop the cycle where it begins.

As for JD...

I guess that counts, but for anyone who takes it seriously, know that according to christian lore, that when jesus died on the cross, the laws for the jews, including the rather silly ones in leviticus (http://www.godhatesshrimp.com) were null.
Though putting that whole passage in context I see it more against "spreading your seed through Molech", AKA, Canaan Temple Prostitutes.

First of all, so-called explanations through religion or science mean absolutely nothing to me. As far as I'm concerned, complex emotions regarding this subject can not be fully explained by any such things (plus I don't support religion). If people are only attracted to the same gender (or both genders), I see nothing wrong with that. I'd say it's perfectly normal; everyone develops their own preference, and that's just how it is.


I agree with this as well. A child can only come into existence because of man and woman. Same gender parings can't give birth to children, so I don't think they should be raising them either. I'm not gonna tell anyone not to do so, but I don't support it. It goes against my morals.

Your morals? Based on what? Ignorant prejudice?

Normally I don't talk about my personal life here, but to be perfectly frank I have a gay older brother who was responsible for raising me just as much as my mother and father, who were busy running their business during my early childhood.
He may have not been raising me 100%, but he was responsible for a large portion of my care, and his being gay hasn't had a negative affect on the way I grew up or the kind of person I have become. I can confidently say that all the negative aspects of my personality come from other sources in my life (including my soon to be 5 years here at Dreamers).

So who is to say that gay people can't raise children? My then teenage gay brother raised me quite a bit, and I don't see this as a bad thing in my childhood. Therefore, can't a mature gay couple do just a good job too?

Unless you want to get Freudian about the issue.

If I were an orphaned child with no one in the world, I think I could consider being adopted by parents, gay or straight, a blessing (or good fortune, to leave out the religious connotations).

And JD, don't ever bring up the book of Leviticus unless you consider yourself a hardcore christian in the same league as the pro-life terrorists.

QUOTE (Dart @ Nov 25 2006, 06:29 AM)

And JD, don't ever bring up the book of Leviticus unless you consider yourself a hardcore christian in the same league as the pro-life terrorists.

Do note that I only posted it because he asked for any reference, "new and old testaments" that flat out said anything against homosexuality. I never said how I felt about the verse, nor did I intend on arguing about it. I simply gave what was asked for. I had nothing to prove here, but I guess you do?

Aha. Flaming-sense tingling. Well, there's nothing wrong with homosexuals being together really and that's my take. They can smooch or whatever they want in public, I'm pretty much neutral, and it's they themselves deciding the impression they are giving to other people by being affectionate in public. However, I despise the kind of people who:
1. Forces people into homosexuality course of intimacy. (Meaning you unvolunteerly got smooched for a not so friendly but rather passionate purpose.)

2. Openly saying that homosexuality is a sin. (Your belief stays <- , my belief stays >. You don't say anything, I don't say anything, we're all happy about it.)

As for homosexuals adopting kids, I'm not against that. I mean, it's better than not having anyone to support you. I guess people are against it because they are making the kids turn homo as well, or that the kid's life become a laughing stock etc. Heck, even homos can make better parents if they do it right.

Pushing aside homosexuals for a mere second, why don't you worry about aggressive pedophiles adopting kids instead? I think that's something much more scary to think about.

Quote for effect.


Eh?

Fair enough you were just responding to Tony's request, but colour me confused with your last comment.

That's what I do best.

I didn't say they can't do it, I'm sure most decent couples can raise children. It's just that going by my own morals, I think a child should have both a mother and a father. But as I said; I'm not telling gay couples not to do so, they can go right ahead and adopt a child. But if they were to actually ask me if they should adopt a child, my answer will always be no. And if they would do it anyway, I'd still say congrats and good luck.

Only why? Gay people will not just bring up gay kids as not all straight families bring up straight kids. Personally I think if your morals would prefer have a kid brought up by the state than in a loving family environment then your need to take an other look at your morals.

On the subject it has been well worn before. People are born gay (by and large) and i is not even unique to humans, you will find a lot of gay animals, remember the story of a zoo trying to de-gay some penguins a year or two back. Most of homophobia is hypocrisy as so many people who are against 2 men would say nothing about 2 women (as long as they where good looking). That coupled with Leviticus where it seems to be the only part of it they have read as they quite happily skip over all the other crazy commands it has.

Well, my opinion -- and I know many will disagree -- is that the whole straight, gay, bi discussion is a futility. To me EVERYONE likes both men and women, with more or less inclination towards one or the other. I'm "gay" (I use the "" because I don't like the stereotype), I like YAOI a LOT, but ocasionally, I'm into HENTAI too. Just as well, there isn't one straight man or woman who never had a gay thought or dream, and VICE-VERSA.

About being right or wrong, I don't dwell much on that aspect, I just don't care, BUT, I wanna bring to light two interesting facts:

1) There are largely documented "homossex" between animals, and I'm not talking just about deers. (Basecly, when horny enough, any male animal (including man!) will .......)

2) The Bible is said to have been wrote by men inspired by God, I won't dwell on about this being true or not, but it is important to note that if it is "INSPIRED BY" it's not necessarely "PRECISELY". Getting to the point, when the books that compose the Bible was wrote, people beleved that the testicles carried complete "mini-babies", and that all that the women did was grow them, having no active participation (we know now that's not truth, and that a child is 50% the father and 50% the mother), so sodomy, zoophilia, masturbation... basecly, ejaculating anywhere besides am live human vagina would be a "GENOCIDE"!!
BTW, if you pay attation, the Bible don't condemn female homosexuality. (But the Church do!)

3) It's also important to consider that while expanding, the Roman Church, had to compete with other strong religion/culture, like the greeks (that at the time, believed that the only true love was between men and sodomy was praticly a" school subject"), persecuting those was a way to self-consolidate.

And on a personal note, even if it were wrong, is it really necessary to persecute, arest, kill,... to cast away people just because they love?!?...

I don't see any reason why Hentai and Yaoi got to do with this topic.

As for the Topic question, both my brother and I accept homosexuality since we are not to decide what or who people like or want. When we are still in university, we actually have a gay couple which is quite famous in school. Often I have homosexual costumers who wants to take their wedding photos.

In my opinion, all we should do is either just keep quiet if you disagree with homosexuality, keep the comments to yourself. Or give them your best wishes and regards.

Yang.

I guess it's better to be razed by homosexuals than agressive pedophiles. I agree on that.
Well, I'm certain that some homos have the best intention when raising a child, but it's just not the same being raised in a family where you have just two dads or just two moms. ( instead of a mom and dad).
And it doesn't have to mean that the kid has to turn out to be bad, but I think that can happen. And don't ask me for proofs, because I don't have them. Maybe some psichologist can explain it, beats me. But that's just my oppinion. If someone dissagrees with it, it's fine. I respect it. ( and besides, why does everithing have to be proved to be true? Now give me a proof that God exists )

btw. thanks Xerno for supporting my thoughts.

That's all I have to say regarding this, now continue on topic please!

I was only tring to ilustrate. To put it through another example:

"I like men, but when walking down the streets, I notice the girls behind too!"

Cultural Note: Brasilians brefer the girls be hind rather than the breasts. And we do "Like big butts"! XD

Personally I think the paedophile comment should be ignored but gay families adopting is an issue. In Britain at lease gay people can adopt individually and there partners and their relationship is investigated deeply but if the person who did the adoption dies the child can not stay with the other person as they did not adopt and that frankly is wrong. Many children can not be put back into a home with a man or a woman dew to abuse suffered that added to the fact that there is not enough families adopting means putting them in a tradition family environment is not always an option. A stable family or hell just one person if they are suitable is much better than leaving the child in care of the state, and if you beliefs run counter to that you are not doing it to protect any one but because of your own prejudice.

Edit. Missed the not every thing needs to be proved. Your logic there is flawed at best, not believing in god I don't have to prove he is true but that is a different subject. When you are dealing with the well fair of people you can not just say I do not need proof because that is stupid these are people not beliefs. Beliefs do not have to effect other people but laws do.

i don't have a problem with homosexuality-at all. I have two uncles who are gay, one passed on from AIDS a few years ago. I have many gay, bisexual and lesbian friends. Their sexual preference doesn't bother me in the least bit. I would never stop being friends with them just because of the fact that they're gay. I think homosexuals should have the right to marry, because they deserve to be happy. If you don't think they do, give me one good reason. I think they should have the right to adopt because I know some people who have gay parents, and they are the nicest people. I don't think homosexuals are an 'abomination'. They should have every right that heterosexuals have.

1) Look, I'm a man but I never "laid with a male as with a woman", we were BOTH MALES!

I'm a yaoi fangirl, that's all that's needed to explain my stand.

To me, there's no such thing as right or wrong, only opinions. And my opinion about most of the homosexuality related subjects (gay marriage, gays adopting children) is generally 'as long as it won't harm people too much, does not affect me, do whatever you guys like'.

But like Marushio, I don't believe that a person must be 100% straight or homosexual or bisexual. I think that I'm around 90% straight, since I admit to having an occasional stray thought (curiosity, you know). ^^; Strange eh?

I can't help but point out that this (below) is one hell of a typo error.

I agree with you 300%!

On the contrary, most psychological studies say otherwise.
Given that a laaaaaaaarger percentage of society is raised by single freakin parents, I don't think your statement stands. At all.
Thats like saying me and my brothers/sisters didn't turn out right from being raised by my father. Or someone who was raised by their own mother and mother alone. Men and Women aren't the perfect Yin and Yang that you describe. I have no idea where that presumption came about.

As for being "Bisexual" by nature, Pfft. I disagree completely. If people were bisexual by nature, than the world as a whole would be a lot more tolerant! Genetics dictate a lot more than you give them credit for, and not everyones mind is a complete open canvas.

You know man I like my male friends quite a lot and everything... But not like that. If that's how you roll then it's all good in the hood, but don't assume that we wanna do it with the same sex.

Unless I'm totally missing your point... Of course everyone " likes " members of each sex, but not in a sexual way or that loving way that one gets with a partner.



What's wrong with being pro-life?

Alright people, think what you want.

I never said that children will turn out bad if they are raized by only one parent. ( I'm also raized by one parent only). And yeah, sometimes even in a marriage between a man and a woman, a child can turn out bad. ( if the parents fight a lot...etc.) But I won't get into that. I just find it sick for a kid to live with two dads/moms under the same roof. ( if they are a love couple of course). I personally wouldn't like to live under such circumstances. Maybe the kids ( not babies, kids who are old and mature enough to think) in the orphanage should be given the option to choose to live with homo parents, or to stay in the orphanage and to wait for a suitable couple to arrive.

These are just my thoughts and oppinions.

I haven't got anything else to add on this subject, and I won't argue any more on this.

I believe the key word is terrorist, the pro-lifers who kill for their view. Can't say I support pro-life but when you start killing and harming people because you believe its wrong to kill you are a little messed up.



Well its clearly you have some quite well ingrained prejudices, the fact you refer to them as homos shows it cearly. You say you find it sick for a child to live with them when it does nothing to harm them, and what the hell is a love couple? You say the kids should wait for more suitable couple, by witch I guess you mean a straight one? They do not exist, there are more orphans than there will ever be people willing to look after them. Though you wont even really think about why you feel sick about them either, as it has nothing to do with the child's wellfair.

I grew up in a conservative christian home. Though I had to go to my parents church, they did not try to brain wash me at home. As a result I formed my opinions on this matter and ended up on the opposite from my parents. What I took home from my christian upbringing was Jesus' message of compassion. From a christian viewpoint, I think Christians should be more accepting of gays. They are just like straights, sinners all of us (lusting after somebody's spouse is a sin too you know and I've sure many if not most christians have done that as well). Why christians should should think gays as worse human beings than themselves is just off. The rightous act is old.

Now from my liberal point of view. There is suppose to be a seperation of religion and state. So we should not be making bans against gay marriage, adoption because most of those opinions are made off the basis of religion. Why should the religious views of others be forced upon an individual.




300 species of animal have gay sex. There is a biological basis and it starts very early, soon after birth in animals that is. Humans are animals. Most likely, your sexual orientation is engrained from the beginning(and I believe this). People may try to deny what they are because society doesn't accept them and perhaps their family will not, when they give up and show the truth (the coming out of the closet), many people see to get the idea they "turned" gay, when it is simply isn't true.

If being gay is biological, there is no way having gay parents would make the kids gay. There has been statistics that prove that most children raised by gays are straight. Statistically, gays make no worse parents hetero couples. Those that have had kids know that some traits of personality are there from the beginning like the thing we call temperment.

I don't believe in judging people for their sexuality. They are still people, but are attracted to the same sex. In fact, I have a cousin who is gay. Everybody loves him, but one person found out he way gay, and started saying crap. I thought it was disgusting, to be somebody's friend one moment, but after finding out his sexuality is different, to not like him and saying things. People are people. Who they love or who they are attracted to shouldn't be held against them like our society seems to do.

As for children being raised by gay parents; they don't turn out any differently than children raised by a straight couple. My friend was raised by her mother and her mother's partner, and she turned out just fine. Also, I don't see what is 'gross' about it. It's not like they were having sex in front of her or something, or telling her to be a lesbian.

Other animals have shown homosexuality. In fact, there is a flock of gay sheep down at OSU that they have been studying.

As for the Bible saying it's wrong... That is not the only religion out there, and not everybody believes in the Bible, so why force it down their throats?

Yeah a friend of mine told me about her cats she had a couple of years ago. Simba and Stitch. Simba was the butch one and Stitch was usually scared of things. Then when Stitch got nudered, Simba was on his case even more. And one time he "nailed" Stitch. lol

But I agree with what Xerno said, and Gelmar as well. (I think you guys are taking words out of her mouth.)
Agree or disagree with it though, by all means. We all have different opinions and family views.

Like Xerno, I also feel very strongly that a child should be brought up by a man and a woman. Men and women are very differnt, and if possible a child should be brought up with both perspectives and values.
I myself was raised by my mother because my parents divorced when I was 5, and I haven't had a problem with that. But I know the things I missed out on, and I would want my own children to be raised by both a loving mother and father.
A gay couple can provide a great home for a child. But... prejudice in our society is a very important factor. It's not fair, but that's reality.

One sad fact is, that if I was raised by two men, I'm very certain that my girlfriends parents would not accept me, or us for that matter, coming into their family. They're very religious people, and I know them well enough to know some of their values. Thinking about it, even if it's their fault and not ours, I really wouldn't want something like that to stand in my way.
That's one example, but of course there are many more.

But apart from that, I believe a child should have a mother and a father. I'm not saying other situations don't work, but this is how I think it should be.

lol, stating the opinion is "shoving it down peoples throats" and Tony, I've told you. While I think homosexuality is wrong, I do not think it is wrong at all for them to adopt.

To be very honest...You can't stop people from feeling the way they feel, its a way of life no matter what anybody says, feelings cannot be helped.

I never said stating an opinion is 'shoving it down people's throats.' I respect all opinions on any matter. I am saying people bring in the Bible and what is says for this conversation a lot, and not everybody is Christian, or believes in it, so why have them go by what it says?

If I were shoving it down people's throats, I would be attacking them, or saying "BELIEVE THIS, I AM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG!!!111!!" Which I am not saying all at.

I mean lol @, not "lol," Forgive me.

there is nothing wrong with being gay, but its different and that scares people. People will always try to pull this god ####### into the fray when it has nothing to do with that. Everyone has their own opinion of right or wrong, so one man's wrong may not be the same as anothers.

If you have a problem with gay people your no different than a racist. Racist judge people by the color of their skin while gay bashers hate people because of their sexual preference. Thats what i think

I have put no words in Gelmar's mouth, she is the one who keeps saying homos, and has said the idea of gay parents sicken her I am not making up her prejudices. The fact you will have some people who will pick on them for having gay parents is not a good reason they would get picked on for being raised by the state or a whole number of reasons that is what kids do, if they even understand it... and it is a parent frankly any one who passes that kind of bigotry on to there kids is a far worse parent. Black people face racism, so should we stop them from adopting? If your girlfriends parents hatted black people would you say they should not adopt?

Fact is gay couples are even adopting as it is in Britain just as they can not adopt as a couple the child will go straight back into care if the one who adopted them dies, that is just wrong. Only thing wrong with homosexuality is some selective reading of the bible (you don't follow the other crazy bits you should not be following this, not to mention the fact most extremely religious people believe in things made up a long time after like the rapture) and some stupid prejudice of some thing that does not even effect you.

Simply put- Right.
Why- Cuz I'm gay.

I've read a lot of things on what may cause "The gay" (as my friends and I jokingly call it). None of it is totally proven, and there are always those who reject what has been found.

I think being gay or lesbian, is a free-will right. What is wrong is people trying to figure it out! Like it's some sort of illness that needs to be treated. We try so hard to figure it out, when there's nothing to it. If you are- you are, if you're not, then you aren't. Anything more is a waste of time. Like when people say that there must be something wrong with our brains, or too much of this, or that, and all that jazz.

Evidence would help the blind see, and that would make my life much easier. But it's kind of irking when people try to solve the mystery of "The gay".

Everyone has a right to say what they want, and so I don't judge when people don't understand, because that would be hypocritical. Perhaps I should start a investigation as to why people don't understand "the gay", my hunch is chemical imbalance (Kidding ^_~).

Gay marriage is something I don't want to even get into I have mixed feelings on it.

Exactly what what I think of the whole homosexual issue.

I know you don't want to arugue on this, so I'm just taking this quote for simple read usage. xP

I agree men and women are different so the experience in things while being raised by them can differ from being raised by parents of the same sex. But, can it be described all that bad if they weren't homosexuals and were raised by parenst of the same sex instead?

Parents of different sex doesn't always make a child grow up to be good, it all depends what the parents are like by personality on my point.

On that note, I have no problems with people being homosexual nor do I have a problem with them wanting to adopt a kid and I also don't have a problem with them getting married. To me, it's as long as their happy...

The thing I find hilarious about this topic is that I know that some people that said they don't have a problem with homosexuals would be offended in someone called them gay.