Well after playing Suikoden V it reminded me how Georg and Chris were pretty similar in how they deal massive physical damage, but are both bad at handling magic.

So I decided to compare Chris to Geddoe. Both of them are probably the strongest physical fighters in the game.
I got them both up to Level 99 to compare their stats. (I used a gain quick EXP code)

There's barely any difference in their Power stats.
Chris has 185. Geddoe has 191. Geddoe has a stronger Weapon though, so his ATK is higher than Chris'.





But the main difference can be seen in this skills.
Geddoe only has Damage B+ while Chris has Damage A+.
But the main thing that separates the two is that Chris has Heavy Damage A and Geddoe doesn't even have that skill.
So just like Georg Chris is very good at dealing critical hits along with being a powerful physical attacker.

The difference between Chris and Georg is that Chris has two runes locked to her hands after you pass chapter three, and she never unlocks her head rune. So you can't equip her a Killer Rune or Double Damage.
Also, Chris can wear the strongest armors in the game. That's something even Georg couldn't do, but I would have prefered to have her head rune unlocked. Then she really would have been "George Prima". =p

Well yes, and like Georg, Chris can solo quite a few enemies in Suikoden III. The major difference between her and Georg is, magic wont totally own Chris.

Geddoe technically is stronger than Chris damage wise because all of his power is in True Lightening. True Fire/Water can't touch Lightening. But other than that his strength is being held back by the fact that his skill list has magic skill categories, while Chris only has one.

To truly be like Georg (IMO), she'd have to have ridiculous stats in all areas except Magic, of course, and ridiculously low Magic Defense. Georg's low MDef was always pretty hard to compensate for, and his stats remained very similar in Suikoden V even.

Personally, I would expect Geddoe to be weaker in a handful of areas, such as armor and Strength. While he is indeed a powerful attacker, he's basically the main spellcaster among the three possible choices for the Flame Champion -- his magic-related stats are much higher, so his physical stats are lowered a bit to even him out. Chris, on the other hand, is purely physical, so she'll equip heavy armor and have higher physical stats and skills. ...Though it seems somewhat odd that, in that case, Geddoe still has higher HP. Haha. I guess he's just badass like that. (It's probably just them being sexist or something, giving females lower HP. <.<; )

I'm still not sure why Chris never really seemed that great to me... I always preferred characters like Fred and Mua, as far as knight characters go. Hallec, for physical damage. Regardless of seeing these stats, she just never seems to perform that well in battle for me.

That's interesting that you went to this length to find that out.. I'm curious as to why lol

Chris is evidentially a great fighter. I don't think I'm too surprised either, she was supposed to be this unbelievable leader of the 6 Great Knights of Zexen, I'd hope she was powerful lol

but it's true, in the game she's not really shown to be a powerhouse damage dealer, especially since she's supposed to get the Healing Water Rune

Which is a bit odd in itself because stats wise she isn't good with magic. Usually you rely on healers to be potent with magic. Perhaps they were more thinking of it in a story sense than in practical terms.

Why I checked this out? Well I was playing Suikoden V with a friend and I got to the Sable boss battle. And during the fight, everyone who attacked Georg got a weapon block + critical counter in return. I didn't even get to lift a finger and the boss died on the first turn just by trying to attack him. 8900 damage. Mind you that Hero does around 350+ damage usually per hit. When that happened I thought it seemed familiar but I couldn't out my finger on it. We thought about it for a while, and then he mentioned the time we played Suikoden 3 and Chris did pretty much the same thing against one of the bosses close to the end of the game. She dodged the attack and struck back with some insane damage that took out the boss right away. And during other fights she would do around 2 - 3x the damage of the others pretty often. And the times she didn't she still usually dealt the most damage for me. Probably because of her skill stats, and her strong equipment. Reminded me of Georg, so I wanted to take a look at her stats closer. =p If Georg was in this game I'd compare her to him but Geddoe was the second best thing since he has very good physical stats.

Ah....I see now. . Just having Richard, Georg and forgot her name and you can breeze through the game (which I don't recommend if you like challenges). Characters like him really breaks Suikoden V. Yes Chris, I suppose gave a little taste of what kind of fighters were going to be present in Suikoden V - that's why I said she can solo quite few enemies in Suikoden III. Just parry counterx2x3x4 = 3,000 sometimes. Goerg is capable of dealing much more than 8,900(not exceeding 9,999 mind you). I'm sure you've seen it - when his sword "powers up" and it STACKS with Killer rune. LOL!

One more thing.. I never picked my fighters in SIII based on thier attack power. It was based on thier skill rating(governs how often they will counter) and Chris' rating is way higher than Geddoes.

Yeah I also prioritised their skills stats very often, since it worked differently than the skills in Suikoden V. Getting everyone to the highest possible rank in what they are good at is what usually excelled the character. Luc's Wind magic stats, Chris Critical hit and Damage, etc. Not everyone was particularly great at something though. But yeah, Chris could solo a lot in Sui 3 due to her stats, but the Suikoden III and V battle systems are very different so of course the characters in this game could never reach the high damage levels made in Sui V. And even so, Chris could do around 10 times the damage of a normal strike at the most. What Georg did for me was around 25 times the normal damage rate.
And my Georg was only Level 55 at the time and had his weapon on Lv 12 when that happened, so I'm sure he can do even more than that. lol

There are several factors one can put into why Chris sucks at magic yet gets the strongest healing magic in the game and why Geddo pretty much owns both her and Hugo in magic hands down.

You have the one fact that they were trying to take Chris away from being the classic "I-need-a-man-and-must-be-a-magic-damage-dealer" main female leads. I mean think about most RPG's you play now adays. Even if the main lady is strong willed, shes almost ALWAYS a magic user and at some point falls for the main guy. Chris had more important things on her mind than trying to get a man or trying to learn magic. She had something to prove and I think she did it quite well.

This point goes back to the storyline idea someone had. Its true that if you look at the little bit of backhistory they give on Chris and if you read the manga (which is beautifully done by the way) you see that she was trying to fallow in her fathers footsteps and so she shunned magic to go for pounding the living hell outta people. Top that with her just gaining this new, overpowered (supposedly) rune and you have an accident waiting to happen.

Now in contrast, you have Geddoe. We never learn that much about his past except that he's well over 50 years old and has had the True Lightning Rune for at least the past 50 or so years. So when you think about that in terms of storyline and logical terms, Geddoe has probably learned through time how to handle the rune and learned that he needs a certain level of knowledge to truely control the rune. So he's probably opted to go magic/fighter just to keep himself safe and to keep the rune under control. This way, he would have enough knowledge to control the rune but he wouldn't have to depend on it since he could also fight for himself. Sides, 50 years is a long time to learn a few new tricks.

George...yea..he pretty much walked thorugh anything. Specially if you put him in a party with all the other Queen's Knights. It really didn't matter who the last character was (6 characters, knights only take up 4 slots if I remmeber correctly). The knights pretty much walked through any and everything without the need of the main character. The prince was just there for moral support in my game. XD

I thought that Chris due to her incredible strength the True Water Rune was really intended for her, where it doesn't require frequent spelll casting (low magic), unless the need arises such healing (water is for healing). So the main arsenal of the charcater equipped with the True Water Rune must have Hi strength and Critical Type to compensate the True Water Runes disadvantages.

Sorry but putting True Water on Chris is strategically stupid. For one thing you have little hope of getting lvl4 unless you keep resetting everytime you get over 60 just to get those needed MAG points -.-.

What do you mean by resetting? Does her 4th slot appear randomly or something?
I got it around Lv 85+ I think.

I'm going by something I've read at suikosource long time ago but never tried. 85...!?

lawl... well I guess the proves that it isn't true.

KAY True Water + Chris IS stupid. Stick lame True fire on her like I did and be done with it. What is even worse is the chant speed.

Oh forgot to explain what I meant.

Apparently leveling up in Suikoden III is not linear. That is to say what you get from going from 65 to 66 will be different if you're to do it again with the same character.

Oh, so kind of like the "stones" that give you a random stat boost between 1 - 10 if you use them? Or does it only apply to magic spells (dots)? Well that might explain why I once read that Chris never gets her 4th magic spell, but clearly that isn't true as seen in my picture above. But since I took this information for face value, I was surprised when I noticed it and didn't really notice exactly at what level I got it.

Anyway, look at her magic stats for Water. Not good. I think she mainly got it for story purposes, or rather to use the attaclk spell more than teh healing spells. But her healing does work actually. I did it against the final boss recently and it worked fine. Her chant speed was still faster than the boss could react for some reason.

I find giving Chris the True Fire Rune even odder because the final spell of that Rune can be quite useful and can't really be used with Chris unless she has that 4th attack unlocked. Hellfire is a good spell that does 1500 dmg to all enemies in one area while Heavely Drops only does 1000.
Besides, the True Fire Rune is meant for attacking and with low magical powers, it doesn't really do Chris any good.

I gave my True Fire to Chris the first time I played mostly for storyline purposes. I just really love Chris. I got a thing for strong female leads and she kicked ass. If I really could have altered the True runes anyway I wanted, Chris would have gotten the True Lightning Rune, Hugo gets True Fire and Geddo gets True Water just cause of his uber magic skills Iw ouldn't need to worry about healing so much. And I can just see Chris with like sparks of lightning revolving around her and ehr sword. That'd be so hot.

Sucks for Chris, the Sword of Magic is really nice for her too.
But none of the heroes were very competent with magic, maybe Geddoe at the most. It makes me D: