Well, this was a while ago but probably a couple years ago I remember hearing some good things about Suikoden. I checked online and did find the first two in the series but they were rare and horribly expensive. Needless to say I was not going to buy them, I haven't looked since then, and I am not much of an ebay fan. But that is beside the point.
I tried to go for the next best thing by a newer one at a reasonable price, so I got Suikoden IV. I played it and managed to beat it...it was not very good. However every friend of mine who is a Suikoden fan unanimously say that Suikoden IV just was not good and that the others are much better. Since this was my first and only attempt at playing Suikoden, I suppose I am left with a bad first impression. I was interested in the story at least, what with there being other places in the Suikoden world, so I am still interested in giving the series a second try. I heard that a fifth one came out not too long ago, so are there any of the Suikoden games to recommend as a second chance. Or am I totally wrong in considering Suikoden possibly the equivalent of FFX-2 to a good series? If someone could enlighten me on such things, I'd greatly appreciate it. Who knows, maybe it will spark discussion.
Full Version: Question on the Suikoden Series
Suikoden is a great series in my opinion. However, starting out with the foruth one is definately not the way to go about it. I really liked the fifth one, as it seemed to get back on the track of the first two in the series. I would recommend giving the fifth game a try. It's well worth it. Especially compared to the fourth one.
You are indeed correct that pretty much all Suikoden fans seem to dislike, or don't much care for, the 4th game in the series. The reasons why it wen't wrong are many, but perhaps mainly it was because the original director left halfway through the production of Suikoden 3, and the new director and staff wanted to try new things. But the end result was quite poor, and whether you like the game or not you can't deny that certain things were a big step down from before.
There were hardly any houses you could enter in the game. And the towns didn't get much better than the one you started out in for that matter. Instead of having the usual 6-man parties, (3 on each row) you were now limited to four. The main character gets almost no character development, and that's putting it mildly. He remained a stranger to me all throughout the game. Even though the heroes in Suikoden games usually are "mute" so to say, there are a lot of good ways to still give them proper development (which Suikoden V in particular showed proof of), usually through their friends and family, but where were Lazlo's (that's the name of the Suikoden 4 hero) friends and relatives who knew him? There were none, instead you randomly get two out of four possible "friends" who join you after you escape, and they are non story VIP's which means you never have to bring them along anywhere, which in turn means that anything they say is standard extra party member lines. The true rune was bad. A second level Lightning rune does more damage than the Rune of Punishment. And it doesn't harm you. Go figure. In the entire game, there are only two dungeons, and that includes the final dungeon. No joke. It's the ruins in Obel, and then it's the castle in the end. That's it.
The story was very weak in my oppinion, and juuust when it started to get interesting... the game ended. It was a very short game, and both endings were pretty bad, whichever you got. No difference really, just that in one ending you keep drifting in the boat and (most likely) die, and in the other you get picked up by a ship. And usually Suikoden games have a nice number of returning characters, but in this one you could count them on one hand. And don't get me started on the endless ship sailing and how random encounters happen every 3 seconds and the ship magically bounces off some invisible wall if you just happen to approach the island from a slightly off angle, and have to do a full 180 to steer your ship back into port again.
The only good things in the game was that the battles wern't bad, although not as fun as they could have been. And that Ted was in it. He is a character from Suikoden 1 and you find him in an optional side quest which I'm guessing you missed. It explains a lot of questions about Ted left unanswered in Suikoden 1. (which takes place arround 150 years after Suikoden 4.) And Ted is easily the strongest character in the game with his Soul Eater rune.
I wouldn't put Suikoden IV in the same category as the others because they managed to mess up almost everything you would normally expect from a Suikoden game. Oddly enough the same development team (at least I think it is?) manage to exceed all expectations with Suikoden 5, which is a game that to many fans is one of the best in the series and rivals Suikoden 2 as the best game in the series. They managed to bring the game back to it's roots with a lot of improvements as well.
In Suikoden IV they messed up everything, and in Suikoden V they managed to deliver everything almost perfectly.
Normally I'd say you should start from the beginning with Suikoden 1 and 2. Sui 2 being my all time favorite rpg to this day, but since you were unfortunite enough to get a bad taste of the series by playing 4 first, I can understand that it's not an easy thing to go out of your way to get a game you might not even like. And even though I think you'll get a lot more out of Suikoden V by playing at least Suikoden 1 and 2 first, I think that playing Suikoden V would definitely give you a good idea of what the series is like. I would suggest getting that game, and I guarantee you you'll notice an enourmous difference between 5 and 4 within the first few hours of playing.
Suikoden V, in spite of being a prequel to Sui 1 - 3 if you go by the time line, is built very much arround the events of those games. Mainly Sui 1 and 2, and is meant to be played after them to get the most out of it, but it can still be very much enjoyable even if you don't. Suikoden 3 is also more enjoyable if you know the story from the first two games firt, but can still be played as a standalone game. You're not requierd to know anything form thge previous games, but it adds much more to the whole experience if you do.
So yeah, whatever you thought of Suikoden 4, I still recommend Suikoden 1, 2, 3, and 5 highly. And 5 should be easy to get a hold of, but ideally I'd say get Suikoden 2 if you can.
There were hardly any houses you could enter in the game. And the towns didn't get much better than the one you started out in for that matter. Instead of having the usual 6-man parties, (3 on each row) you were now limited to four. The main character gets almost no character development, and that's putting it mildly. He remained a stranger to me all throughout the game. Even though the heroes in Suikoden games usually are "mute" so to say, there are a lot of good ways to still give them proper development (which Suikoden V in particular showed proof of), usually through their friends and family, but where were Lazlo's (that's the name of the Suikoden 4 hero) friends and relatives who knew him? There were none, instead you randomly get two out of four possible "friends" who join you after you escape, and they are non story VIP's which means you never have to bring them along anywhere, which in turn means that anything they say is standard extra party member lines. The true rune was bad. A second level Lightning rune does more damage than the Rune of Punishment. And it doesn't harm you. Go figure. In the entire game, there are only two dungeons, and that includes the final dungeon. No joke. It's the ruins in Obel, and then it's the castle in the end. That's it.
The story was very weak in my oppinion, and juuust when it started to get interesting... the game ended. It was a very short game, and both endings were pretty bad, whichever you got. No difference really, just that in one ending you keep drifting in the boat and (most likely) die, and in the other you get picked up by a ship. And usually Suikoden games have a nice number of returning characters, but in this one you could count them on one hand. And don't get me started on the endless ship sailing and how random encounters happen every 3 seconds and the ship magically bounces off some invisible wall if you just happen to approach the island from a slightly off angle, and have to do a full 180 to steer your ship back into port again.
The only good things in the game was that the battles wern't bad, although not as fun as they could have been. And that Ted was in it. He is a character from Suikoden 1 and you find him in an optional side quest which I'm guessing you missed. It explains a lot of questions about Ted left unanswered in Suikoden 1. (which takes place arround 150 years after Suikoden 4.) And Ted is easily the strongest character in the game with his Soul Eater rune.
I wouldn't put Suikoden IV in the same category as the others because they managed to mess up almost everything you would normally expect from a Suikoden game. Oddly enough the same development team (at least I think it is?) manage to exceed all expectations with Suikoden 5, which is a game that to many fans is one of the best in the series and rivals Suikoden 2 as the best game in the series. They managed to bring the game back to it's roots with a lot of improvements as well.
In Suikoden IV they messed up everything, and in Suikoden V they managed to deliver everything almost perfectly.
Normally I'd say you should start from the beginning with Suikoden 1 and 2. Sui 2 being my all time favorite rpg to this day, but since you were unfortunite enough to get a bad taste of the series by playing 4 first, I can understand that it's not an easy thing to go out of your way to get a game you might not even like. And even though I think you'll get a lot more out of Suikoden V by playing at least Suikoden 1 and 2 first, I think that playing Suikoden V would definitely give you a good idea of what the series is like. I would suggest getting that game, and I guarantee you you'll notice an enourmous difference between 5 and 4 within the first few hours of playing.
Suikoden V, in spite of being a prequel to Sui 1 - 3 if you go by the time line, is built very much arround the events of those games. Mainly Sui 1 and 2, and is meant to be played after them to get the most out of it, but it can still be very much enjoyable even if you don't. Suikoden 3 is also more enjoyable if you know the story from the first two games firt, but can still be played as a standalone game. You're not requierd to know anything form thge previous games, but it adds much more to the whole experience if you do.
So yeah, whatever you thought of Suikoden 4, I still recommend Suikoden 1, 2, 3, and 5 highly. And 5 should be easy to get a hold of, but ideally I'd say get Suikoden 2 if you can.
The important things have already been said by Midnight Star and Athrun.
Suikoden IV though a reasonable game, it lacks on many aspects and therefore a newcomer to the series would have a bad taste after playing this game.
In my opinion you should forget about Suikoden IV and look up Suikoden V. It is all aspects better than Suikoden IV and will definitly enjoy you more.
It has a good story with many plottwists and various other parts that increase the enjoyment in this game.
Suikoden V has is quite deep at certain parts in the game and that adds a lot to the entire atmosphere and environment.
The surroundings have also increased alot and as well did the graphics. It is a pleasure to the eye and although not Final Fantasy calibur, it does have its charms.
The music is pretty to the ears as well and if you know the soundtracks from the other games, you'd recognise a few songs (they remixed the Suikoden IV battle theme in this one for a certain event).
If you have played the previous games, then this game will give you a lot of nostalgia, because there are returning characters in the game and other returning aspects.
The battle system is back to its 6 members in a team, instead of the 4 used in Suikoden IV.
Also, the Suikoden V is better because they added new features, such as the tactics and their special attacks.
All in all this is a good game to pick up the Suikoden series, it provides a good story and even though a slow and long start, it still gives you a good introduction to the story and the game and eventually the series.
I do advise to keep looking for Suikoden I and II, or even borrow them from your friends so you can have a taste of the first two games, which almost all fans hold in high regard.
They are expensive, but you might get lucky =).
Suikoden IV though a reasonable game, it lacks on many aspects and therefore a newcomer to the series would have a bad taste after playing this game.
In my opinion you should forget about Suikoden IV and look up Suikoden V. It is all aspects better than Suikoden IV and will definitly enjoy you more.
It has a good story with many plottwists and various other parts that increase the enjoyment in this game.
Suikoden V has is quite deep at certain parts in the game and that adds a lot to the entire atmosphere and environment.
The surroundings have also increased alot and as well did the graphics. It is a pleasure to the eye and although not Final Fantasy calibur, it does have its charms.
The music is pretty to the ears as well and if you know the soundtracks from the other games, you'd recognise a few songs (they remixed the Suikoden IV battle theme in this one for a certain event).
If you have played the previous games, then this game will give you a lot of nostalgia, because there are returning characters in the game and other returning aspects.
The battle system is back to its 6 members in a team, instead of the 4 used in Suikoden IV.
Also, the Suikoden V is better because they added new features, such as the tactics and their special attacks.
All in all this is a good game to pick up the Suikoden series, it provides a good story and even though a slow and long start, it still gives you a good introduction to the story and the game and eventually the series.
I do advise to keep looking for Suikoden I and II, or even borrow them from your friends so you can have a taste of the first two games, which almost all fans hold in high regard.
They are expensive, but you might get lucky =).
He hasn't played the first two Pes. Anyway, It's a stretch, but check the used section ANYTIME you go into a game store. I've picked them up for $30.00 at least when ever I find them and give them to people who are in need of them. I just haven't seen them lately. But with the release of the new consoles traded games are increasing to help pay for the new games. You may just get lucky!
QUOTE (Midnight Star @ Jun 30 2007, 07:17 AM) 
He hasn't played the first two Pes.
I know, that is why I advised him to keep looking. You didn't read my last part did you? =P
Man, it's been almost 10 years since I played the very first Suikoden. After 3, it progressively got worse. 5 brought the shine back into the series. I hope 6 has the goods that the first two had. If you can, definitely get the first two, so you can see why the series was so great. To this day I still go back to Suikoden 1. Gives me chills.
Heh, I did but I ovrerlooked that part. I'd recommend finding the fifth game first. Otherwise if you work you will be spending one whole paycheck on the first two by this point in time..
The first game in series i played was Suikoden V and is a go place to be introduced or re-introduced to the series, but i've already voiced my opinion on that in another discussion as i'm sure Athrun will agree so i wont elaborate. Suffice it to say that from the strength of this game alone i went out and got hold of III, IV (even with the bad reviews) and tactcs and it was money well spent in my mind.
Don't let the bad experience of IV put you off, this is a worthwhile series that definitely deserves your attention if your looking for something new to get into. V offers a good enought plot line that keeps you interested throughout and with the goal of collecting all of the characters available your bound to get plenty of hours of entertainment out of it. Give V a go even if you can't get hold of the early ones it'll be worth it.
Don't let the bad experience of IV put you off, this is a worthwhile series that definitely deserves your attention if your looking for something new to get into. V offers a good enought plot line that keeps you interested throughout and with the goal of collecting all of the characters available your bound to get plenty of hours of entertainment out of it. Give V a go even if you can't get hold of the early ones it'll be worth it.
Hey PAL Gamer, I was wondering, how did it go with trying to get Sui 1 and 2 before playing Sui III? Are you still trying to go for that or did you decide to play Sui III first anyway?
As I mentioned before (in case Exire wants to know as well) the villain in Sui III is someone you get aquainted with in the first two games, but not as a villain so you get to understand him/her a lot better if you played the first two.
It's not the end of the world if you don't, but it's definitely worth it. Especially since a lot of people though that this game was so good solely due to the "villains" story.
As I mentioned before (in case Exire wants to know as well) the villain in Sui III is someone you get aquainted with in the first two games, but not as a villain so you get to understand him/her a lot better if you played the first two.
It's not the end of the world if you don't, but it's definitely worth it. Especially since a lot of people though that this game was so good solely due to the "villains" story.
QUOTE (Athrun)
Hey PAL Gamer, I was wondering, how did it go with trying to get Sui 1 and 2 before playing Sui III? Are you still trying to go for that or did you decide to play Sui III first anyway?
My resolve weakened and i started playing, but remembering what you said about the link with the first two I stopped (only got through the start up) so yeah i'm still on the look out for them two, luckily i've got plenty of other stuff to keep me busy so the temptation to start up again shouldn't get the better of me.
Still got my fingers crossed that either Konami will sort them selves out and release the PSP version over here or that they get put them on the online shop for the PS3 - now that would be enough for me seriously consider buying a PS3, saying all that i'd still would like to get hold of the originals but that's just hoping too much.
Yeah I looked on eBay just now and the cheapest I found under a "Buy now" category was $120. Same for Amazon.com
Suikoden 1 is a bit cheaper, arround 40 - 50 dollars for those in "acceptable" condition, whatever that means.
But them ending up on the PS3 online shop would be nice. An easy way for Konami to earn some money on the games rather than the same copies that are circulating on various auction sites. Japan is getting a lot of games for the Playstation Network recently. Mostly fighting games and I'm not sure how many rpg's have showed up yet, but it's only a matter of time I'm sure before we'll see a lot of rpg's there as well.
Suikoden 1 is a bit cheaper, arround 40 - 50 dollars for those in "acceptable" condition, whatever that means.
But them ending up on the PS3 online shop would be nice. An easy way for Konami to earn some money on the games rather than the same copies that are circulating on various auction sites. Japan is getting a lot of games for the Playstation Network recently. Mostly fighting games and I'm not sure how many rpg's have showed up yet, but it's only a matter of time I'm sure before we'll see a lot of rpg's there as well.
The originals are ridiculously priced, they dipped a bit a couple months back (a new copy of I was roughly £100 now its £175 and used at £50 - poor condition) but they're on the rise again.
I can't even hope for something like what Midnight Star suggested as the majority, if not all, of the games stores in my area have stopped selling anything remotely to do with the PS1 , used games included, so rely solely on the internet and virtually everyone is clued in to how much the games are actually worth.
As for 'acceptable' condition that can mean anything from missing instruction manuals, broken/missing cases or scratched discs that are still playable, but i've had too many bad experiences with scratched discs to even consider them, one of the reasons i got rid of my PS1 - long story!
Don't really understand why Konami wont release the PSP version in the states/EU, considering the number of FF remakes done in close succession that have all made money you'd think they'd follow suite, hopefully they'll see sense and soon.
I think i'll just resort to an emulator if there's no news in the near future (and once i've got Windows running on my Mac, that'll make things a lot simpler) as i would really like to get into Suikoden III, made the mistake of checking the disc worked with Swap Magic when it got delivered and watched the opening sequence - thats how i ended up playing a bit of it - but will definitely play I and II some way or another before i go any further.
Back on topic - Exire - if all this trouble people go through to get hold of games in the series is not an indication of how good the it is then nothing is.
I can't even hope for something like what Midnight Star suggested as the majority, if not all, of the games stores in my area have stopped selling anything remotely to do with the PS1 , used games included, so rely solely on the internet and virtually everyone is clued in to how much the games are actually worth.
As for 'acceptable' condition that can mean anything from missing instruction manuals, broken/missing cases or scratched discs that are still playable, but i've had too many bad experiences with scratched discs to even consider them, one of the reasons i got rid of my PS1 - long story!
Don't really understand why Konami wont release the PSP version in the states/EU, considering the number of FF remakes done in close succession that have all made money you'd think they'd follow suite, hopefully they'll see sense and soon.
I think i'll just resort to an emulator if there's no news in the near future (and once i've got Windows running on my Mac, that'll make things a lot simpler) as i would really like to get into Suikoden III, made the mistake of checking the disc worked with Swap Magic when it got delivered and watched the opening sequence - thats how i ended up playing a bit of it - but will definitely play I and II some way or another before i go any further.
Back on topic - Exire - if all this trouble people go through to get hold of games in the series is not an indication of how good the it is then nothing is.
The only reason I can think of is that the PSP version does not sell well in Japan. Konami therefore does not ship it to America, which makes no sense, because the games are in ridiculous high demand here and they will make a big effort if they would ship it to America/Europe.
I do have the Japanese version, but of course it would be so much handier if they would just ship the game to Western countries.
I do have the Japanese version, but of course it would be so much handier if they would just ship the game to Western countries.
Honestly, I'm stunned that they don't release Suikoden 1 and 2 on the PS2 platform, even standalone without any changes to it. The game is so rare now, yet coveted, you would think they'd try to remake it or shed light on it, much like Square has with FF7, and Wild Arms Alter Code F....
Like, i remember FFTactics was actually pulled from the shelves for a year or two, and then when they rerealsed it, BANG, greatest hits list. So i mean, Suikoden should consider doing the same.
If anything, they should examine the sales of the GBA remakes of Final Fantasy and see the revenue to compare what their cost/benefit calculations would be like.
Like, i remember FFTactics was actually pulled from the shelves for a year or two, and then when they rerealsed it, BANG, greatest hits list. So i mean, Suikoden should consider doing the same.
If anything, they should examine the sales of the GBA remakes of Final Fantasy and see the revenue to compare what their cost/benefit calculations would be like.
Does anyone think the series was hurt because of the change graphically to 3D? I dunno. Things seemed to have gone downhill when the series went to 3D imo.
^^ Yea, would be nice to see a re-release on the PS2 with I & II on it.
^^ Yea, would be nice to see a re-release on the PS2 with I & II on it.
QUOTE (BiG MiKE @ Jul 3 2007, 08:00 PM)
Does anyone think the series was hurt because of the change graphically to 3D? I dunno. Things seemed to have gone downhill when the series went to 3D imo.
^^ Yea, would be nice to see a re-release on the PS2 with I & II on it.
^^ Yea, would be nice to see a re-release on the PS2 with I & II on it.
Well they could've gone with the 2-D lok, but they're trying to compete for a new genre who's playing preferences include 3D graphics. So can you really blame the creators. Also Suikoden 3 and weren't that bad at all. All Konami needs to do nowis make the graphics a lil better, and do something to make more innovative, but fun gameplay to the series. Then konami will finally get mainstream attention for this series.
I had a feeling I should check out Suikoden again after I posted this. My feeling was right since just about no one enjoyed Suikoden IV in comparison with any of the others. I looked on Amazon, III and V are not too bad of a price. I do not exactly have the money racking in, so I am not sure on Suikoden I...definitely not II. The second one is upwards to $400 for a good condition game. Even then a couple hundred for a not so good condition. I understand what people mean by getting a game even if it is expensive like that. A friend of mine told me to look past the flaws from Xenogears and get it. I did and its by far my favorite video game, period. So its not like I don't believe what everyone is saying, but even I cannot say that a video game is worth hundreds of dollars. The strategy guide was a hundred bucks for God sakes.
I think I may wait for they to come to the PSP or the PS3 online shop someday. At least I have a number of other RPG's to play to keep me occupied. At least III and V are on the PS2 and are affordable. Suikoden I wasn't too bad at $40, all of these prices from Amazon by the way. Perhaps I can play those two and then play the first two down the road somewhere to connect the dots. I believe the others are good, definitely II since its apparently the best. Perhaps ethic's do not play into video games but...I couldn't live with myself if I paid a few hundred dollars for a PS1 game, even if it is so good to make someone bow down and worship its greatness.
Well then, I shall try and find Suikoden. I think I will play V and then III. I probably will find V before the other one. At least V can most likely give me a good look at what Suikoden is or what its supposed to be.
I think I may wait for they to come to the PSP or the PS3 online shop someday. At least I have a number of other RPG's to play to keep me occupied. At least III and V are on the PS2 and are affordable. Suikoden I wasn't too bad at $40, all of these prices from Amazon by the way. Perhaps I can play those two and then play the first two down the road somewhere to connect the dots. I believe the others are good, definitely II since its apparently the best. Perhaps ethic's do not play into video games but...I couldn't live with myself if I paid a few hundred dollars for a PS1 game, even if it is so good to make someone bow down and worship its greatness.
Well then, I shall try and find Suikoden. I think I will play V and then III. I probably will find V before the other one. At least V can most likely give me a good look at what Suikoden is or what its supposed to be.
QUOTE (Exire @ Jul 4 2007, 09:21 PM)
I think I may wait for they to come to the PSP or the PS3 online shop someday. At least I have a number of other RPG's to play to keep me occupied. At least III and V are on the PS2 and are affordable.
The only negative side of playing Suikoden III before 1 or 2 (mainly Sui 2) is that you'll partially miss out on something that I'm sure most people would agree to be the most interesting part of the story, and that's the "villains" story. The villain is someone you got aquainted with in Suikoden 1 and 2, but then not as a badguy but as a good person and part of your team. Without knowing him/her from before but instead first being introduced with this person in part 3 would be quite different. It was a lot easier to symapthise (and especially to empathise) with this character after getting to know him/her in the first games.
For example, in the Megaman Z series, you find out that Megaman X is the villain. If you haven't played the previous games and don't know who Megaman X is, his and Zero's past relationship wont be a factor when you are introduced to this fact, because you haven't experienced this character during the days when he was the hero along with Zero and the things they went through. So you won't be able to empethise with Zero and his emotions upon hearing this, nor would you start thinking back on how Megaman was good in the past and how he could be the villain now. Even though you may still like it, it's not exactly the same thing.
But, it seems you might have more faith in "going out of your way to get a game that might just be worth it" than I thought, perhaps due to your own experience with Xenogears and such. But I definitely understand how you feel about not wanting to put out too much money for a game. Personally I wouldn't pick it up for anything that exceeds $100. That goes for any game. But then again, games today cost $60 now so perhaps I need to start changing my view on what a
game is worth. None the less, I already have experienced Suikoden 2 so it's probably harder for me to imagine buying it, since I already have it.
But if someone would give me back my money that I originally payed for the game and ask me if I would pay $100 for the experience of playing Suikoden 2, or otherwise they would remove my memories of the game and I would never be allowed to play it, then yes I probably would pay it.
It's hard to draw the line on what a game is worth to you in terms of money, especially when buying the game for the first time. But no matter how much I like the game I wouldn't tell you to pick it up at a rediculous price. But if you saw it for something like $80 I wouldn't advise against it.
But the bottom line is, Suikoden 1 and 2 are generally overpriced, and if you don't find a good deal that you find acceptable, then don't get them.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/821/821962p1.html
I hope this doesn't mean there won't be a Suikoden VI for the PS3
I hope this doesn't mean there won't be a Suikoden VI for the PS3
QUOTE (BiG MiKE @ Sep 24 2007, 03:10 AM)
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/821/821962p1.html
I hope this doesn't mean there won't be a Suikoden VI for the PS3
I hope this doesn't mean there won't be a Suikoden VI for the PS3
Lol, I'm sure there will be a Suikoden VI. Too bad there was no word on one at TGS though. Looks like it will be a while longer before any news about it is revealed.
QUOTE (Athrun @ Sep 23 2007, 08:24 PM)
QUOTE (BiG MiKE @ Sep 24 2007, 03:10 AM)
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/821/821962p1.html
I hope this doesn't mean there won't be a Suikoden VI for the PS3
I hope this doesn't mean there won't be a Suikoden VI for the PS3
Lol, I'm sure there will be a Suikoden VI. Too bad there was no word on one at TGS though. Looks like it will be a while longer before any news about it is revealed.
Yea, I'm sure. Lot's of stories that still need to be explained. Think we'll go to Harmonia in the next one?
Konami is really slacking in the Suikoden department. Seriously. Suikoden V was a HUGE hit, I can't understand why they haven't already shown another in the works. Is it seriously gonna come out that late??
I mean, I remember right after Wild Arms 4 was released, Alter Code F was right ther with it, and Wild Arms 5 was previewed almost immediately.
FFXII just came out this year, yet FFXIII and 3 spinoffs are coming in 2008-2009, Dirge of Cerberus came out this year, and Crisis Core is coming out soon as well, FFT Lion's War was also just released.
I mean, there's really no reason for Konami for taking so f*cking long to release a goddamn game. AND NOT EVEN RELEASE, thats the wrong word. At LEAST shed some light. A character, a geographical point, a timeline, SOMETHING. theres just NOTHING out there for anything in Suikoden 6. For all we know Suikoden 6 might be as far long as Kingdom Hearts 3.
I'm actually getting upset thinking about this because it's friggin ridiculous.
I mean, I remember right after Wild Arms 4 was released, Alter Code F was right ther with it, and Wild Arms 5 was previewed almost immediately.
FFXII just came out this year, yet FFXIII and 3 spinoffs are coming in 2008-2009, Dirge of Cerberus came out this year, and Crisis Core is coming out soon as well, FFT Lion's War was also just released.
I mean, there's really no reason for Konami for taking so f*cking long to release a goddamn game. AND NOT EVEN RELEASE, thats the wrong word. At LEAST shed some light. A character, a geographical point, a timeline, SOMETHING. theres just NOTHING out there for anything in Suikoden 6. For all we know Suikoden 6 might be as far long as Kingdom Hearts 3.
I'm actually getting upset thinking about this because it's friggin ridiculous.
Suikoden I - Jap Release: 12/15/95
Suikoden II - Jap Release: 12/17/98
Suikoden III - Jap Release: 07/11/02
Suikoden IV - Jap Release: 08/19/04
Suikoden Tactics - Jap Release: 09/22/05
Suikoden V - Jap Release: 02/23/06
My prediction: Wait untill next year. It took 3 years for Konami to release Suikoden II and 4 years for Suikoden III, because they stepped over from PSX to PS2.
Now they have to jump from PS2 to most likely PS3, so considering many developers are struggling with the amount of power the PS3 has, I am certain that it will take some time before Konami wants to start revealing plans.
Suikoden II - Jap Release: 12/17/98
Suikoden III - Jap Release: 07/11/02
Suikoden IV - Jap Release: 08/19/04
Suikoden Tactics - Jap Release: 09/22/05
Suikoden V - Jap Release: 02/23/06
My prediction: Wait untill next year. It took 3 years for Konami to release Suikoden II and 4 years for Suikoden III, because they stepped over from PSX to PS2.
Now they have to jump from PS2 to most likely PS3, so considering many developers are struggling with the amount of power the PS3 has, I am certain that it will take some time before Konami wants to start revealing plans.
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