And Raiden's body seems to be more machine than human this time arround judging by his battle with Vamp at the end of the trailer.

I think it is a "Johnny" =P.
There is a Johnny in every game and always has a balaclava, might be another Johnny =P.

Anyhoo, the trailer is great =D. Great action and I am looking forward to this title.

I think it is a "Johnny" =P.
There is a Johnny in every game and always has a balaclava, might be another Johnny =P.

Anyhoo, the trailer is great =D. Great action and I am looking forward to this title.

Its most likely not Johnny because if you watch closely there is some hair sticking out from under his mask which is colored white. It could possibly be Raiden, since he is the only known and living character with white hair, before he went cyborg or a completely different character. A Johnny appearances is very likely and I would be surprised if he wasn't in MGS4 in some shape or form. Johnny is like a trademark with the Metal Gear Solid series as Chocobos are to Final Fantasy games.

Well if you listen closely to the conversation, you hear one of the soldiers call the masked character "Johnathan". So my presumption would be that he is a "Johnny" plus we don't know if this "Johnny" might have white hair or not, we only think of him as an enemy soldier who suffers from genetic diarrhea (cuz it runs in your "jeans") problems as well as a succeptibility to colds.

I saw that part differently. I thought the masked soldier that wasn't infected by FoxDie was the one calling the soldier, who was infected by FoxDie and on the ground in pain, Johnathan not the other way around. All the other soldiers including Meryl were in pain and screaming when they were infected and hardly had the time to be calling out someones names in such a calm voice. Plus, it would be a high probability that Raiden would join Foxhound. I also thought the voice sounded like Raiden's too.

I just saw the video, and took your view on it in mind. I see reason in your assumption that it is Raiden. Though we really can't be too sure, I can't wait to play this game.

I wish instead of making so much separate threads and announcements that everyone would just post them in my E3 thread. Though I guess this makes it a lot easier for people to be educated.

The trailer was awesome, I'm just mad it wasn't actually gameplay.

Yeah, I'm not saying I'm 100% sure that it is Raiden, but it is a good possibility. Also, why would Meryl recruit Johnny in the first place?

Just random speculation on my part, plus the current Johnny living in the time-line seems to be a decent person, I mean he did let Emma through that crossway. He's just there at the wrong place at the wrong time, so who says he wouldn't be working with Meryl. Though the thought of it is hilarious, considering she did kick his ass and stole his clothes.

Johnny is a good guy its just that you wouldn't actually use him for a top secret assassination now would you? At least I don't think Meryl would be that dumb to do so.

I liked the trailer, but I still don't get what's the deal with Raiden being a cyborg ninja now. Cyborgs can't have babies. Though I read somewhere that Raiden has some disease that destroyed his body, so he has white blood powering his robot suit.

That trailer was feeling like an episode of a long running Sci Fi channel TV show, though.

The online title, which will shortly be going into closed beta with a select team of 3,000 Japanese beta testers, was one of a series of announcements that the company chose to make at its own dedicated event--as opposed to at this year's E3, where Konami caused a stir with its 15-minute press conference.

The official recruiting period for the open beta will be from July 24 to August 6, and the actual beta testing will run from August 7 to September 3. So far the open beta is also Japanese-only, although Kojima Productions assistant producer Ryan Payton stated that he would like to see the beta go international--but as yet has no official announcements.

The game will be a kind of hide-and-seek for up to 16 players at a time, and is called a "strategic multiplayer experience." It will feature the SOP system, which allows players to keep track of their teammates via nanomachines injected into their bloodstream. The nanomachines allow them to see where the rest of their team are, their condition, which way they are aiming, and their range of sight. Enemy soldiers can also be injected with nanomachines, which will enable the other team to then keep track of their movements.

Metal Gear Online will also feature playable characters and environments from Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, and is slated as a PS3 exclusive.

Another thing worth mentioning is that it looks like Laughing Octopus (the one with the many arms (not tentacles, arms) I'm assuming) is holding puppets of what appears to be Psycho Mantis and....The Sorrow maybe?

That's Screaming Mantis. Laughing Octopus has tentacles.

They're probably real bosses since the site refers to them that way.
Well most old villains are dead, so of course there's going to be a bunch of new ones. Using exoskeletons is nothing new but this is the first time there are more than two in one game. (Olga and Solidus in MGS 2) Unless they are actually robots, but I doubt it.

Anyway, I realize most of the villains are dead, but it seems that Big Boss is not dead (from some earlier stuff about MGS4) but I think the thing I don't really like about these four being bosses is that in the other games, you could see the bosses faces, which kind of added to their personalities for me I guess. This kind of seems like a very minor complaint, but something just doesn't sit right with me that I can't see any one of their faces (because of the exoskeleton obviously) which I think might be that them being masked makes it kind of...impersonal. I realize that at some points they will probably show their faces, but I also don't want my motivation for beating them to be being able to see their faces, but I doubt that would happen. I'm sure this will work out though, it worked to an extent in FFXII (Judge Magisters) so I'm sure its not all how it seems to be.

Well, I just watched the trailer that featured these bosses (I couldn't find one on the page Athrun posted, I watched it here)

Cool movie. This made their abilities and personalities more clear. But you say you saw Screaming Mantis controlling the others? I didn't notice that. What time on the trailer should I pay attention to it?
But regarding that, the person Screaming Mantis controlled was only being controlled physically and was trying to break free. The other three bosses seem like they want to do this anyway so I don't see a reason for Screaming Mantis to controll them. Anyway, they seem like pretty cool bosses. I like the part about them losing their human side to war.

I wonder if any of the bosses have anything to do with previous MGS games, for example Screaming Mantis.
Raging Raven was just annoying. His/her voice was good, but the constant "RAGE!" was just overdone.

TGS 2007: Metal Gear Online Starts Off Free
Konami's upcoming MGS shoot-em-up will come packaged with MGS4.
by IGN Staff

September 19, 2007 - Clearing up some confusion regarding the release of Metal Gear Online -- the upcoming networked multiplayer game set in the Metal Gear universe -- Hideo Kojima and Konami officially set firm its release plans for the game at a TGS conference held yesterday in Japan.

Metal Gear Online will in fact be bundled with Metal Gear Solid 4, as originally planned way back when the mode was announced. The confusion on this point came up when Konami independently announced the game at a special Konami Metal Gear conference held a few days after E3 2007. Previously, Metal Gear Online was assumed to be part of the overall Metal Gear Solid 4 release (as in MGS3: Subsistence), but the press conference presentation hinted that it would be its own product, with perhaps its own pricing structure and release date. There were also rumors about the possibility of Metal Gear Online being a PlayStation Network downloadable title.

Those questions are settled (at least for now -- the possibility of a PSN version of MGO outside of MGS4 seem quite possible), as Konami has confirmed that Metal Gear Solid 4 will come bundled with the Metal Gear Online Starter Pack. Exactly what is in that Starter Pack (and what kind of additional content will be available beyond the Starter Pack, and when it will be available) was not announced at the event. Online charges (if any) were also not discussed.

Metal Gear Solid 4 and the Metal Gear Online Starter Pack are together planned for a worldwide release in 2008.

Well here is camera footage of the latest MGS4 trailer shown at the 2007 Tokyo Game Show:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/107922.html
The subtitles can get a bit blurry so here is the transcript too:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/821/821004p1.html

Holy crap, that was just... wow wow wow.
Big Mama: "Very impressive CQC, Snake."
Rex vs. Rey. Olga's child. And OMG, Naomi takes off her shoes!

This trailer blew me away. I can't wait to see more from the game. They're definitely not holding back in this game. It's going to end the story in a big way.

haha, this looks so awesome. I'm praying they make it multiformat. I must know how it all ends! The kid must play some form of part in all this. No idea how, but the kid's so going to turn on someone at a very inoppertune(sp?) time!

XD fans and development costs defy you pes! defy!

Fans of the franchise don't buy a Xbox for MGS, that is just stupid.
Development costs, I never heard Konami/Kojima Productions complain about the money.
In an interview Kojima had also said to never release a game on the Xbox again after the failure of MGS2 on the Xbox.

Finally watched the trailer, and I agree it looks awesome. I'm a big Naomi fan, so I'm glad to see she'll play a considerable part in the story (I really hope she'll survive D: ). For whatever reason I'm not so thrilled about Meryl's return, even though I like her character. She just didn't leave much of an impression in the trailer. And, uhm... Big Mama? Couldn't she have chosen a less silly code name? xP

Only one real complaint; Liquid has Ocelot's voice, while in MGS2 he had his own voice when he was "awake". I hope Cam Clark will return to voice him at some point in the game as well (I never cared much for Ocelot, so the more he's Liquid, the better =p ).