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Bomb
http://rpgland.com/content/?p=320
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Over a year after telling RPG Land that we “can count on part 3″ in an exclusive interview, NIS announced today that the next installment in its strategy RPG series Disgaea is in development for the PS3, and will go on sale in Japan sometime this winter for 6,800 yen (around 55 USD).


Razael
That still looks like a ps2 game, they could have done better. Well I havent gotten halfway through Disgaea 2 so I am in no rush. Neither am in a rush to spend 60 bucks on a game that still looks like its from 2003.

Bah Who am i kidding, I love disgaea.
Athrun
It does look like a PS2 title. Nice to see an rpg on ps3 though. It was only a matter of time of course but still good to see it's library starting to build up. I only played Makai Kingdom in the series but if the characters are interesting in Disgaea 3 I'll probably get it when I get a PS3.
Pesmerga
Lol, come on... they should add some newer graphics to this.
We have seen this thing in all their games released on the PS2 now and with a new next gen console, we should be getting something new.

Not that I do not like the news, I love Disgaea and I am quite happy to see the official announcement.
Mr. Wonderful
What everyone needs to realize here, is that this game is sure as hell not even close to being finished.

The graphics at it's current state doesn't look to good, I will admit. But I think that's the result of Disgaea's art style, it is a bit cel-shady and cartoony, so you never know.
Pesmerga
I like the cartoony anime-ish style, I just hope they will upgrade things a bit and not keep it in the same thing as they did with all their other games.
It looked good and the animations were beyond, I just hope they change things this time.
Mr. Wonderful
QUOTE (_Pesmerga_ @ Jul 17 2007, 07:25 AM) *
I like the cartoony anime-ish style, I just hope they will upgrade things a bit and not keep it in the same thing as they did with all their other games.
It looked good and the animations were beyond, I just hope they change things this time.

To be fair, I was going to scream out in a rant about the graphics not being completely up-to-date. biggrin.gif

Yes, I can agree with that though.
Pesmerga
Lol, I know they are not up to date. I was more referring to them using a diffirent style or make a drastic update on the style.
Obviously those are still screenshots from the early fase and such, time will tell how this game will look.
Valince
I am shocked that you all care about the graphics in a NIS game. . . I don't care if it's freaking ATARI graphics. It's NIS man, NIS! (Gust and Banpresto to be more accurate). It's nice though that they wanna keep the old school RPG style alive in the 4th generation gaming era.
The Evil Dead
QUOTE (Shion)
I am shocked that you all care about the graphics in a NIS game. . .


Seriously... I'm extremely shocked as well. Especially since most here claim to be from the " graphics don't matter " crowd. tongue.gif

Also Disgaea 1 practically looks like a PS1 title. Blame NIS here, guys.

Personally I'm not all that bothered by it, with all of these fancy new fangled machines and graphics, it's nice to see that some styles of games will remain true to their roots. You know... Kinda like how Megadeth is still keeping it real. Make a few little changes, keep up with the times, but yet stay true to what made the success in the first place. I think NIS will definitely deliver on this title.

Anyway... This is why I bought a PS3. I knew companies like NIS would continue to support the likes of Sony. As will other RPG companies whose products I enjoy. I feel if Sony continues to release products from the likes of NIS and other quality RPG creating companies, it'll win over the hearts of those it has in the past. Plus as we all know they're going to release like Madden 9000 or whatever to keep Joe Gamer interested.

BRING ME MY GOOFY JAPANESE RPG'S, SONY, DO MY BIDDING.

As if you couldn't tell I'm very excited about this. The possibilities are endless. While I doubt the game will break any new ground or anything, I personally never see any wrong in a strat/RPG.
Bomb
QUOTE (The Evil Dead @ Jul 17 2007, 03:08 PM) *
Personally I'm not all that bothered by it, with all of these fancy new fangled machines and graphics, it's nice to see that some styles of games will remain true to their roots. You know... Kinda like how Megadeth is still keeping it real. Make a few little changes, keep up with the times, but yet stay true to what made the success in the first place. I think NIS will definitely deliver on this title.

I agree with every single sentence of this paragraph.
(Despite the thread title--y'all know I had to do that wink.gif )
Vilagen
I haven't played much of anything from Nippi Ichi since Phantom Brave, mainly because I was bored with the company after playing said game. Even though I was a huge fan of Disgaea, I'm not even interested in the series too much, since Laharl and Flonne got shafted in the second game. (Though, I do hear it's a good game overall, so I might pick it up someday).

As far as the third game goes, it's a wise move. It is their landmark game that made them noticable and a lot of poeple seem to like both games, so it only makes sense. And while I am tolerant when it comes to graphics, I would personally be pretty pissed if the game will look like that if it is a PS3 exclusive. If they decide to put on the PS2, that is one thing, but if you are going to put a game that the last generation of consoles are capable of handling onto the current generation I'm not going to be too happy about that. I wasn't too happy when Nintendo put games on the Wii that were originally developed to be on the Gamecube (Twilight Princess, Super Paper Mario), but at least the Wii is pretty cheap. On this matter though, I wouldn't be too happy to find a PS2 game being released to the most powerful and expensive system on the sole fact that it is the newest thing out there.
Athrun
Well I thought this was implied in peoples comments so I didn't mention it, but the reason I'm reacting to the graphics is as Vilagen now mentioned, if it looks like this then why not release it for PS2? It seems like a pretty weird move concidering how many PS2 owners there are compared to PS3 owners.
It's not like I'm longing to see the upgraded sprites, but come on... I can't see one difference between this and Disgaea for PS2. I'd much rather have it on PS2 if it's not going to make use of what the PS3 has to offer.
The Evil Dead
It's on the PS3 because the PS2 is going bye bye and Sony hopes to attract buyers, and owners with titles from companies like NIS. Could it have been made on the PS2? Probably. Does Sony want titles like this on the PS3 to attract the RPG loving audience the PS2 had? I'd say so. Again, I say blame NIS for not trying to kick it up a notch if you're really that concerned about it.

Makes enough sense to me that this title is on the PS3.
Athrun
Hmm, I'm sure Sony would like it on PS3 but for NIS it would seem like a better move to relase it for PS2. Even if the console is starting to reach it's end it's still the console with the biggest userbase right now. Then again, maybe they really will take advantage of the PS3 when the game is finished. In the end I don't really care though but I'm a bit surprised if it stays like this.

On another note I hope Pram and Lord Zetta make a return in this game.
Bomb
QUOTE (Athrun @ Jul 18 2007, 04:28 AM) *
Hmm, I'm sure Sony would like it on PS3 but for NIS it would seem like a better move to relase it for PS2.

Not if Sony decided that it wants this particular game on PS3 badly enough to pay NIS some compensation to put the game on the PS3 instead of PS2. Money talks, especially the guaranteed kind.
Valince
LOL Athrun all will be well man(yes I stole part of that line from "Heinlein" and it's become a habit now -,-). The PS2 has the bigger fanbase, but remember the console's capabilities have grown obsolete now. Putting this on the PS3 opts for newer features and perhaps an even bigger story, since the console gives developers much more room to work with. You don't wont this to turn into Tenchu Z. That game is all eye candy and hardly no content for a 360 game -.-.
Eva
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On another note I hope Pram and Lord Zetta make a return in this game.

Zetta appeared in Disgaea 2. I suspect he'll appear. Whether he's playable or not the question.

I could get the game and just ask my sister to let me use her PS3 to play it. So, I can play the game, but with Disgaea 2 not being that great. I'm not that hype about the third installment. I'll get it and hope to be surprised since my expectation of the Disgaea series went down after Disgaea 2. I won't mind if they created another game a together and I wanted them to return to Phantom Kingdom/Phantom Brave battle system. I enjoyed the ability to move whether ever I desired instead of being restricted to a grid.

Disgaea 3 likely will introduce another cast, I just hope they're much better than the last cast. If you're going to make a original playable, try making Flonne, Etna and Laharl playable instead of making Etna playable while Flonne and Laharl end up being the extra people you could add to the team. I wasn't that high on Land of Carnage feature where Axel, Fubuki and Kurtis where only playable there. Man, bring back Gordon and make him playable this time. I can't believe he wasn't playable in Disgaea 2.
Athrun
QUOTE (Eva @ Jul 18 2007, 11:18 PM) *
I won't mind if they created another game a together and I wanted them to return to Phantom Kingdom/Phantom Brave battle system. I enjoyed the ability to move whether ever I desired instead of being restricted to a grid.

Granted I haven't played Disgaea enough to judge the grid system in the game but I did enjoy the free movement in Makai Kingdom and I wouldn't mind to get that back again.
Valince
Grid system? It's an SRPG, what do you expect? They all have "grids". ohmy.gif
Athrun
QUOTE (Shion @ Jul 19 2007, 12:05 PM) *
Grid system? It's an SRPG, what do you expect? They all have "grids". ohmy.gif

Well Makai Kingdom doesn't really have those where you are restricted to tiles to stand on. It had free movement very similarly to Breath of Fire 5.
Vilagen
QUOTE (Bomb @ Jul 18 2007, 06:03 AM) *
QUOTE (Athrun @ Jul 18 2007, 04:28 AM) *
Hmm, I'm sure Sony would like it on PS3 but for NIS it would seem like a better move to relase it for PS2.

Not if Sony decided that it wants this particular game on PS3 badly enough to pay NIS some compensation to put the game on the PS3 instead of PS2. Money talks, especially the guaranteed kind.


Look, while I like a good Strategy RPG just as much as the next member on this forum, I really doubt that putting the next Disgaea on the PS3 will really make that much of a difference, and I doubt that Sony would give Nippon Ichi the money to make it a PS3 exclusive if they ever decide to change the format. Face it, the Strategy RPG crowd is a small one, and while I know that Nippon Ichi has become more popular, their games really aren't the system-sell like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII will be.
Razael
QUOTE (Athrun @ Jul 18 2007, 01:29 PM) *
QUOTE (Eva @ Jul 18 2007, 11:18 PM) *
I won't mind if they created another game a together and I wanted them to return to Phantom Kingdom/Phantom Brave battle system. I enjoyed the ability to move whether ever I desired instead of being restricted to a grid.

Granted I haven't played Disgaea enough to judge the grid system in the game but I did enjoy the free movement in Makai Kingdom and I wouldn't mind to get that back again.


I am the other way around. I hate that ring crap. I like precise movement, grid for the win man.

I actually couldn take it and I couldnt play Makai Kingdom or Phantom Brave for more than two hours, the circle thing pissed me off. And that building thing, that was just stupid.
Bomb
QUOTE (Vilagen @ Jul 20 2007, 12:52 PM) *
Look, while I like a good Strategy RPG just as much as the next member on this forum, I really doubt that putting the next Disgaea on the PS3 will really make that much of a difference, and I doubt that Sony would give Nippon Ichi the money to make it a PS3 exclusive if they ever decide to change the format. Face it, the Strategy RPG crowd is a small one, and while I know that Nippon Ichi has become more popular, their games really aren't the system-sell like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII will be.

Not going to make this into a sales figure battle, but suffice it to say SRPGs sell pretty well these days. You're right that they didn't used to, but anymore, they do well. Like you said, they don't push record-breakers and mega sellers like FF and Metal Gear, but not many games do that, period. The long-running Fire Emblem series jsut started coming to America within the last few years--it took till its seventh installment. And now, all the new ones in that series make it over here without a hangup. Why? People are buying them. The original Disgaea even required not one but TWO extra printings after exceeding sales expectations. (Other SRPGs that just came out or are coming soon: Jeanne d'Arc, Dungeons and Dragons Tatics, Lord of the Rings Tactics, Aedis Eclipse, Hoshigami Remix, FFXII: Revenant Wings, FFT: A2, Soul Nomad, Luminous Arc. I'm probably forgetting a couple.)

In taking a lap around the internet shortly after this announcement, there were peppered comments in the vein of, "Uh oh, looks like I have to buy a PS3," "Well s---, I kinda want a PS3 now," "Good thing the PS3 dropped its price," etc.

Plus, there's strength in numbers, and Disgaea 3 would be a good addition to an eventual counter-list to the gripe "But there are no RPGs on that thing!" Sony has all the reason in the world to want this thing on PS3. Historically, the system that wins a console generation is also the system that develops its RPG strength the quickest, so you can bet Sony will be making plans to appeal to that market. The company has every interest in making its console appeal to RPG fans, and adding a respeted SRPG as an exclusive helps achieve that.

Realistically, Nintendo could probably also put Fire Emblem: Godess of the Dawn (Wii) on GameCube, since its graphics aren't "OMG next gen" and it reportedly doesn't use a lot of that wiimote motion sensing crap. Hey, people with a Wii can play it even if it's on the Cube, right? Right. But Nintendo wants to make the Wii more appealing to RPG lovers, so the Wii is where that game will be. This is slightly different because Nintendo owns Intelligent Systems (makers of Fire Emblem), and Sony of course does not own NIS, but a business deal could certainly be stricken between the two. (I'm not saying that IS what happened, I'm just saying from a business standpoint, Sony would not be crazy to pay NIS a little thank-you-thank-you for putting this mofo on PS3, especially if they could convince NIS to do so at not much cost to Sony.)
LunarMaster
I can see why Microsoft would put money on this coming to the 360, but I think Sony spent all of their "Exclusive Money" on Metal Gear and Final Fantasy (Not a bad move). I think Microsoft has way more to gain even if it just becomes a multi-platform game. Does it say anywhere "Exclusive to PS3"?
Athrun
Nice scans. The main character (I assume) with white hair is named Mao. The other two are a bit unclear... Rasberil (sp?) for the girl and Almath for the guy with the scarf.

QUOTE (LunarMaster)
Does it say anywhere "Exclusive to PS3"?

It was announced only for PS3 so far from what I can tell. Makes no difference if it says "Exclusive to PS3" because at this early stage that doesn't mean much.
Pesmerga
The scans look good so far.
I like the design of Mao.
The Evil Dead
You're not getting it on the 360.

Eat #### and die.
masterseto
I agree with Evil Dead on that lol. Well I like Disgaea very much. It was a game that I could play over and over. I'm very excited about Disgaea 3. So it looks like NIS could of have it released on the ps2 but it's not the graphics that counts with it comes to NIS games. It's the contents that counts in my opinon. From what i'm reading, Disgaea 3 is going to make a great addition to the series. Then if it's very succesful then NIS can proceed in making Disgaea 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and stoping at Disgaea Infinity in the year 3000. laugh.gif
LunarMaster
QUOTE (The Evil Dead @ Aug 28 2007, 05:16 PM) *
You're not getting it on the 360.

Eat #### and die.


LOL. Give peace a chance.

You know very well that the possiblity is not only there, but very likely. In all honesty a New IP from them would rock. I'm getting the game regardless, but this game would probably have the most insane achievements of any game ever produced.
Athrun
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Aug 30 2007, 05:32 PM) *
QUOTE (The Evil Dead @ Aug 28 2007, 05:16 PM) *
You're not getting it on the 360.
Eat #### and die.

LOL. Give peace a chance.

You know very well that the possiblity is not only there, but very likely. In all honesty a New IP from them would rock. I'm getting the game regardless, but this game would probably have the most insane achievements of any game ever produced.

Lol, you and your achievements. XD You can still do it without the bragging rights you know. lol
I prefer the usual bonuses by getting unlockables in the games that are actually worth my while rather than a game score. I haven't worried about my gamescore since the good old days with NES and arcades when Highscore was the way to go. After unlockables were introduced, highscores vanished quickly. I'm not interested in that achievements system whatsoever, and I still find it hard to understand what's so fascinating about it. I only do those kind of things if it unlocks something for me in the game.

But anyway, NIS announced they were going to make X360 games so Disgaea 3 is a good possibility.

~Edit~

Official Disgaea 3 Site
kilumanati
personally i dont care about graphics when it comes to strategy games, of course its a bonus if it is visually pleasing but its not a deal breaker for me, as long as they focus on making some gameplay improvements, maybe lengthen the main story and bump up the difficulty i will be very happy, who am i kidding even if they dont chances are i would get it, point being is that for such games - graphics is not a priority
Eva
I do expect there should be a large character roster to select from. There should be a lot more to do. No, I don't consider the Item World. I consider that more time consuming than fun. I hope just about every NIS game cast to appear. Obviously not the entire cast either. There should be a ton of characters with their own sprite. Don't care too much about the graphic. Just what I a lot to pick from.
Athrun
QUOTE (kilumanati @ Sep 1 2007, 06:06 PM) *
personally i dont care about graphics when it comes to strategy games, of course its a bonus if it is visually pleasing but its not a deal breaker for me, as long as they focus on making some gameplay improvements, maybe lengthen the main story and bump up the difficulty i will be very happy, who am i kidding even if they dont chances are i would get it, point being is that for such games - graphics is not a priority

I don't think anyone concidered the graphics a priority. It's a question of why they put it on PS3 instead ofd PS2 if that's the case. If it's not going to have better graphics or something, why put it on the much more expensive console with a much smaller instal base?
If it had nice graphics or just "something something", then it would at least have a technical reason to be on PS3.
The Evil Dead
Figured I'd post an update... Disgaea 3 official website is up, dawg.

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Source: http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/09/22/disgae...e-mortal-realm/
Disgaea 3 website opens its doors to the mortal realm
Posted Sep 22nd 2007 4:00PM by Nick Doerr
Filed under: Previews, News



As the Prinnies would probably say, "Welcome back to the world of Disgaea, d00d." Then they'd probably explode or something. Anyhow, Nippon Ichi has opened up the official Disgaea 3 website, detailing bits of the story and pictures of characters ... you know, the usual website-related stuff. Our problem is, as usual, our inability to read kanji and most things Japanese. Despite that, we're sure the text is tantalizing and obscurely humorous and we can't wait to read more of it in English when the title hits the PS3 sometime next year.


The graphics actually look better... But that's because they're in HD. Personally I don't care about the look, it'll be the wacky goodness that we all know Disgaea to be.
Mushroom
No doubt this game will be hard as hell, and drive me crazy. I would buy it anyway though, if I was getting a ps3. I guess its a good thing I've STILL not beat the first one, let alone the 2nd or the numerous other srpgs they have out on ps2.

On the graphics front, it does kinda look better to me. I don't really think thats what Disgaea is all about though. As long as the attack animations an stuff are better, that'll be cool.
Unknown
Squeeee. I Are ubar happay. I love Disgaea. <3

I don't have a PS3 though. ='[

I'm still playing the original Disgaea.... Ohwell. I'll catch up someday.
Athrun
Here's a trailer from the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rka_88tKkE

Looks pretty much like the usual, but I like the "human bridge" they built in one part of the trailer. It would be nice with more missions where you have to do clever things like that to complete the stage.



And here they make a human ladder to get past the enemies.

The main site also updated. They added some new characters.





This one seems to have the same handcuffs as Pram from Makai Kingdom. Same color hair and pointy ears as well. Maybe her brother or something?



And a Samurai Girl.
Razael
Bumpy McGrind on the thread, Intro movie.

http://www.siliconera.com/2008/01/14/watch...-opening-movie/

Never say I never gave you anything you cock suckers.
Bomb
http://www.rpgland.com/content/?p=3829

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Surprising about 3 people, NIS America announced this afternoon that it will bring its PS3 strategy RPG Disgaea 3 to North America in August.

Check below for some screenshots and art and stuff, and for more in-depth information about Disgaea 3, check out RPG Land’s Disgaea 3 archive.

I dunno if this or the Persona 3: Fes thing takes the crown for this year's worst kept secret so far.
Eva
It only took a month after it's release for them to announce Disgaea 3 localization. I wished it could have been released much earlier than August, but what can you do? Most people were expecting the title to be localized, just a matter of when and that ended up being today.
Wein Cruz
It's such a shame, because I haven't even played Disgaea 2 yet. Should I get Disgaea 2, play through it, then get Disgaea 3? Or should I skip 2 altogether and just get Disgaea 3?
Grahf
I don't think it matters, really, from what I can tell (played 2, but not 1), the games have stand-alone stories (although I think they make references to previous games).
Seluna
Ehhh? I know nothing about Disgaea 3 but I did see this hilarious trailer downloaded from the Playstation Store. I looks fun, but I probably won't get it because I suck at SRPG and my sister who plays SRPG doesn't want to. The funniest part is that it claims to be able to have 4 million hours of gameplay. And the trailer has this ridiculous school song thing after an already very funny narration by this hot-blooded male voice. Entertaining as hell.

It's already out here, by the way. xD
Bomb
QUOTE (Seluna @ Feb 28 2008, 02:43 AM) *
It's already out here, by the way. xD

Not in English it ain't wink.gif
Voyou San
found this article and it thought it was pretty interesting because of the footage i have seen for disgaea 3 it looks exactly like Disgaea 2, so i wonder why the ps2 can handle the 2nd game but not this 3rd game.

CLICK ME FOR JUMP

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Disgaea 3 certainly doesn't look "next-gen" at first glance. However, Nippon Ichi swears that this title simply wouldn't be possible on any other platform. Marketing coordinator Jack Niida, commented about the game's sprites, and the complexities they feature:

"It's simply because PS2 lacks the processing power and memory capacity to support Disgaea 3," Jack told Joystiq. "PS2 could not load the same amount of data on to memory and process it like the PS3; therefore, we decided to develop it for the next-gen platform." He added that "the character sprites for Disgaea 3 take 3~4 times the amount of labor to create compared to Disgaea 2," and the team is "doing our best to improve the sprites."
The Evil Dead
They won't be pixelated monstrosities any longer.
Voyou San
cool info, i just voted last night

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It's one thing to get a bonus for pre-ordering a game and it's another to actually be empowered in deciding what that pre-order bonus will be. NIS America is giving you that power by letting you choose the songs and cover art for the bonus soundtrack that comes with a Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice pre-order.

If you head over to this voting site, you can listen to songs from all three Disgaea games and also vote for up to five songs from each game. Voting ends July 7, so get started here. Disgaea 3, a PS3-exclusive S-RPG, is expected for an August 2008 release in North America.


http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/06/09/nis-as...nus-soundtrack/
Bomb
Hey where did PS3faboy find that story!? ohmy.gif
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