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13 Points Speculation
Below is the 13 points graph. Click it to enlarge it. It will open up in a new window.
The most confusing and interesting part of Kingdom Hearts is when the intriguing "13 points chart" appeared in the Deep Dive trailer. Even though the words appear towards the end of the video, they are shown throughout the eye-catching cinematic sequence.
Even though being called the "13 points chart" or "13 points graph", the points on the chart are numbered from 13 to 2. Surprisingly, there is no point number one, leaving many questions in people's heads. As the graph stops at point number two, it leaves people to think if the "two" was a reference to Kingdom Hearts 2.
There are many theories to what this graph means and below I will share some theories, and some facts. The main theory is that the graph is a story chart, and each point "points" out how the plot will move. Others say that this graph is a map of somekind.
Point 11 turns into 3 different paths, each path leading to a palce describing a location. These locations are "The End of the World", "The World Between", and the "Secret Place." It is a theory that the crossroads at point 11 is shown as Sora stands at the crossroads at the beginning of Deep Dive.
There are numerous theories that can be formed from just looking at the graph. The number lucky 13, for example, can lead into many theories itself, with 13 worlds of Kingdom Hearts, 13 Ansem Reports, "the 13th order" and now 13 mysterious points on a msyterious chart.
On the graph, for point 12, it refers to "Ansem's other report." It's not known which report this is. In Ansem Report 7, Ansem speaks of the four worlds and also references to the "true paradise" that he is continually searching for.
Surprisingly enough, the path of point 3 and 4 make a reference to this "Paradise." So can it mean that the paradise Ansem is searching for exist along this path, the world in it's true form. The path continues to point 2, "We'll go together", a reference to what people like to call "the gathering", with the unknowns in Deep Dive.
As of "The World Between" that is mentioned in Point 9, could it be the location in which all of the unknowns are gathering in Deep Dive, the mysterious beach? The 10th point, "the secret place", is obviously references of Kairi, so it's presumable to say the quotes contained in that point are said by her.
While Point 11 is not the only "fork" in the chart, point 8 also split's it's path, but into twos. Point 8 speaks of "Nobody", the non-existent ones that are mentioned in Ansem Report 8. What are the nobodies? They are but the shells of the ones who exist, the mere body. Many think that the unknowns are the non-existent ones. However, considering Tetsuya Nomura confirmed the identity of one of the unknowns as Riku, we can assume that not all unknowns are non-existent, that is unless he was referring to the shell of Riku the one whom Ansem took over in Kingdom Hearts.
Below is the 13 points graph. Click it to enlarge it. It will open up in a new window.
The most confusing and interesting part of Kingdom Hearts is when the intriguing "13 points chart" appeared in the Deep Dive trailer. Even though the words appear towards the end of the video, they are shown throughout the eye-catching cinematic sequence.
Even though being called the "13 points chart" or "13 points graph", the points on the chart are numbered from 13 to 2. Surprisingly, there is no point number one, leaving many questions in people's heads. As the graph stops at point number two, it leaves people to think if the "two" was a reference to Kingdom Hearts 2.
There are many theories to what this graph means and below I will share some theories, and some facts. The main theory is that the graph is a story chart, and each point "points" out how the plot will move. Others say that this graph is a map of somekind.
Point 11 turns into 3 different paths, each path leading to a palce describing a location. These locations are "The End of the World", "The World Between", and the "Secret Place." It is a theory that the crossroads at point 11 is shown as Sora stands at the crossroads at the beginning of Deep Dive.
There are numerous theories that can be formed from just looking at the graph. The number lucky 13, for example, can lead into many theories itself, with 13 worlds of Kingdom Hearts, 13 Ansem Reports, "the 13th order" and now 13 mysterious points on a msyterious chart.
On the graph, for point 12, it refers to "Ansem's other report." It's not known which report this is. In Ansem Report 7, Ansem speaks of the four worlds and also references to the "true paradise" that he is continually searching for.
Surprisingly enough, the path of point 3 and 4 make a reference to this "Paradise." So can it mean that the paradise Ansem is searching for exist along this path, the world in it's true form. The path continues to point 2, "We'll go together", a reference to what people like to call "the gathering", with the unknowns in Deep Dive.
As of "The World Between" that is mentioned in Point 9, could it be the location in which all of the unknowns are gathering in Deep Dive, the mysterious beach? The 10th point, "the secret place", is obviously references of Kairi, so it's presumable to say the quotes contained in that point are said by her.
While Point 11 is not the only "fork" in the chart, point 8 also split's it's path, but into twos. Point 8 speaks of "Nobody", the non-existent ones that are mentioned in Ansem Report 8. What are the nobodies? They are but the shells of the ones who exist, the mere body. Many think that the unknowns are the non-existent ones. However, considering Tetsuya Nomura confirmed the identity of one of the unknowns as Riku, we can assume that not all unknowns are non-existent, that is unless he was referring to the shell of Riku the one whom Ansem took over in Kingdom Hearts.
I just thought that whole speculation was interesting, and if you watch the video carefully, it really IS a map, there is a SYSTEM of how they move and each one has some sort of heading depending on where it moves.
BUT, here are two pictures that I'm puzzled over:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/VLoir...thethirdkey.jpg
I've NEVER heard this line mentioned before. I really have NO idea what it means or what it is in relation to.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/VLoire/interesting4.jpg
I've finally decided something about this picture. The glowing eyed unknown is MOST likely Ven. The sitting unknown (far right) says, "He looks just like you". Meaning, the person he's talking to came first. Which is Ven, since he's in the prequel of KH. Also, I seriously DOUBT, in that screen where they show 4 characters, that they would show the SAME character twice. I don't think that's the case, I think these are all 4 separate characters, and it would make a LOT of sense if Ven was the glowing eyed unknown (especially because he has a heart, we can see it when he comes out of the rock)
Now, here's my dilemme. The sitting unknown. Xemnas? Or Terra? See, if we assume that the glowing eyed unknown is Roxas, then it makes sense that he's talking to Xemnas. But if it's VEN that comes out of the rock, does it still make sense that it's Xemnas?? Here's why I think it might be Terra:
1. We've seen them alone together before, in the newest trailer/scan we can see them both observing Riku/Sora.
2. It makes more sense that he would tell Ven, "He looks just like you".
3. This is the beach where Sora and Riku are at the END of KH2. Riku and Sora names are related to Land and Sky, and Ven and Terra's are related because they mean Earth and Air. Symbolically, it makes sense that they're there together.
4. If Ven is wearing an "Organization Jacket", then it follows that Terra could certainly be wearing an Organization jacket.
5. If Terra is indeed the knight that we fight in Final Mix (since the armor/keyblade is the same as in the secret movie), then it can be assumed Terra is still alive during Sora's time. Since this conversation happens while Sora is sleeping, it is before they fight, Terra is most definitely still alive. And there's a great chance Ven is still alive. We see he's frozen in the ending movie, but his eyes are still flickering and moving, so he's definitely still alive. And we have yet to see any implication that he's dead. We've seen AQUA'S armor in the room of slumber with Xemnas, but we have NOT seen anything about Ven's armor.
Hence, after considering all that, I definitely think it's possible that the sitting unknown is Terra (My theory of course rests on the fact that the glowing eyed unknown is Ven).
Athrun has pointed out a few things that has led me also to believe the glowing unknown is Ven. 1 is that all the knights have the same eyes, and since Terra' eyes turn yellow at the end, theres a CHANCE that Ven's eyes can turn yellow too. As I also said earlier, I HIGHLY doubt that the camera would pan out to reveal four people, and 2 of them are the same person, that just doesn't make sense, if there are 4 split screens, it's probably 4 different people.
The only thing that kinda throws me off, is why the heart appears when he comes out of the stone. It doesn't look much like a heartless heart either, and it just flickers for a second. And even if it WAS a heartless heart, we havent seen any heartless wear the cloak before, so I wouldn't say that it's a heartless anyways.