Just took a gaze at the [adult swim] TV schedule, simply to see what was on, but found a bit of a surprise.


(Taken from adultswim.com.)

Apparently, after episode 52 of Bleach, they're going to start airing Death Note. Not sure how late I am in realizing this, but I figure some of you may be interested. Also, Viz released a small voice cast list in an update on the English release:
Source: VIZ Media

On yet another note, episodes 1-20 are apparently available for download (for $1.99 per episode) from Direct2Drive and TotalVid.

Adult Swim has sucked with Bleach. "We have a new episode.. but we're going to play Fat Guy Stuck In The Internet all night instead!". Maybe they'll do better with Death Note.

And thankfully it isn't on the summer lineup so I don't have to watch something that a bunch of 12 year olds are obsessing over, even though a lot just get it online, but young [as] viewers are newfags.

I'll watch the first half of the anime but: SPOILERS

The series went to ##### once L dies. N and M are the dumbest characters ever, and N figures out who Kira is through the DUMBEST deductive reasoning and pure LUCK ive ever seen in my life. It ended nicely, it was just a REALLY big hit for the series

Not all too excited, never liked the series in general, it didn't really appeal to me, but hey Brad Swaille is in. So I guess I'm in.

Am I the only one who can't resist looking at all spoilers? It's like an addiction, I look at the spoilers for things I don't even watch, hahah.

DeathNote started airing on YTV awell a few weeks ago, on Friday nights

Heh, heh. Hiku'll have a heart attack when he hears about this. xD

Anyway, I'm thrilled--I haven't been able to find any Death Note episodes online, so the dub'll be a good way for me to get back into the series again. And since it's on Adult Swim, you know they wont half-ass the voice acting or the names of the characters, so the dub's gonna rock!

I need to start watching the Blood Plus dub, too. That show seems interesting too, and I cant find episodes of that online either.

I'll be tuning in. I'm not an anime watcher but on Adult Swim I've been gettin' into bleach and Fullmetal Alchemist.

And from what I've heard Death Note is off da chain. So I'll give it a shot. ^^;

Further proof that many of you like terrible anime.

If it's adult swimified it's from the devil. I know it. Jebus told me.

In all seriousness I guess I just find this funny... You guys were all like into Bleach... They Adult Swim'd that #####... Naruto... Adult Swim'd... Now we have Death Note.

As for me I know nothing about anime anymore, so my opinion is pretty much void.

Well, Naruto was Toonami'd, which is much worse than Adult Swim'd. Lol.
In my opinion, though, not all dubbed anime that's been shown on Adult Swim has been horribly butchered. I think they're doing a decent job with most of Bleach, from what I've seen, though I won't deny there are a handful of characters with just plain weird voices. Eureka Seven is a perfect example of what I'm talking about, though. I actually kinda prefer the English dub (as do some of my friends), and the script seems almost entirely accurate to the original (based on fansubs, that is). Just a matter of who's doing it, and who's available, I guess, though.

Anyway, I've noticed that a handful of the voice actors/actresses working on Death Note also did work in Black Lagoon. Light is voiced by the same person as Rock, Ryuk is voiced by the same guy who did Benny, Aizawa's voice actor did three unnamed characters, Naomi's voice actress did Roberta, and I think I recall seeing a few other names popping up. Almost all of them worked in some Gundam anime or other.

If anyone's interested, I'll provide some Wikipedia links to whoever I can, so you can see what else they've worked on.

Light Yagami - Brad Swaile
L - Alessandro Juliani
Ryuk - Brian Drummond
Raye Penber - Michael Adamthwaite
Shuichi Aizawa - Trevor Devall
Naomi Misora - Tabitha St. Germain
Hideki Ide - Brian Dobson

Um, if it's on Toonami or Adult Swim....or anything else...why does that make it so bad?


It's the same show either way, right?

Can someone explain this fer me?

Lol, I'm actually not too bothered just because I dropped the series after watching 3 or 4 eps xD. I carried on with the manga and dropped it somewhere after Vol.6 or 7 as well x_x'.

Anyways, the story's still going to be the same except the dubbing of the characters voices are usually bad and don't fit with the character very well and some "graphic" scenes may be cut out as well - amongst that, they pronounce the names badly as well =_=. I watched one dubbed ep of Bleach since it finally hit UK screens and I thought Rukia's voicing was just sooo out of place T______T.

Mind you, when I watched the old animes, the dubbing are actually okay. Vision of Escaflowne is like, the only one I like alot xP.

Well, I guess I could tell some of my friends who read the manga. But I already saw this. They're all on TV links anyway.

I donno. Evangelion didn't seem different from the DVD on Adult Swim. The only difference was that instead of yellow subtitles when words seizurely flash across the screen, they're English words. Oh and words like ##### and ##### are bleeped.

That's the most they did there, so I'm sure it won't be as bad as TED sees it.

Really, what matters is what company licenses the anime for the English release, more than what program it's released on. (At least I think so. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong in saying this.) The biggest (perhaps only?) difference between things like Toonami and Adult Swim is the amount of censorship. (Although, depending on what program an anime is planned to be shown on, that may directly influence the amount of censorship.) Adult Swim allows swearing (from what I've seen, only one or two "big words" aren't used, or are censored), as well as a decent amount of blood and such. (I'm sure many people still remember the horrible amount of censorship used in DBZ on Toonami, completely removing blood and swearing, as well as certain whole scenes.) This is also why much direct-to-DVD anime winds up being better, since they can just slap a higher rating on it, and not worry about censoring so much.

Other than censorship, it's as Winnie pointed out: the dubs aren't always great. Often times, the English voice provided winds up being rather out-of-character, or just plain weird. This isn't only because of being used to the Japanese dub, if you've watched a series in Japanese before watching it in English, either. Sometimes, even if you watch the English first, you'll come to notice a huge difference, often with the Japanese voices sounding more fitting, and perhaps better overall. (After all, voice acting is a rather popular, professional career over there. Or so I've read/heard, anyway.) Then there's also the note on pronunciation, though that depends on both who's translating and who's doing the voiceover. (Personally, I think a lot of shows are getting much better pronunciations as of late.)

The script sometimes gets messed up a bit, as well, whether due to mistranslation, or just whoever's behind that task messing it up. Certain characters may wind up saying things that are out of character, toned down, et cetera. Names may also be changed, whether in spelling, pronunciation, or just completely replaced. (Again, I haven't noticed too much of this lately; I think they're getting a little better with such things.)



Lately, I haven't really had any beef with what Adult Swim's been airing. I've been keeping up to date with Bleach in both Japanese and English, and while the English dub has some weird voices at times, the script seems mostly accurate, and the dialogue's not overly censored. (The Season One box set is advertised as "Original and Uncut"... whatever that may be suggesting, exactly.) As I pointed out before, the airing of Eureka Seven was mostly fine ('side from screwing up the final episode, though they "fixed" it the following weekend), and I'm actually quite fond of the dubbing for it, as well as the accuracy of the script (with exception to some minor differences, which in the end, weren't a big deal anyway). I haven't seen the original Japanese releases of Blood+, but from what I can tell, the English release is done pretty damn well. I could probably list a few other shows that I think have gotten good releases in English, but I'll save that for some other time, perhaps.

Personally, I'm not really worried about the translation and scripting for the English release of Death Note, so much as I am about the voice cast. Of course, as usual, after watching it for a while, I'll probably get used to most of the voices, but there are just certain things that are a big deal about particular characters. For example, Light's maniacal laughter, Ryuk's creepy chuckling, and just the overall tone of voice for characters like L. These may be minor things to some people, but for many, they play a rather significant role in the characters' personality and whatnot. They're not always very easily imitated when anime is re-dubbed, so characters sometimes lose a certain "charm" that they have with their Japanese voices. Things like that are the main thing I'm worried about, especially from the little bit I've seen/heard in previews.

As of recently, the dubbings have been getting better. There's a market for anime bigger than there was, oh say, 15 years ago, so they sometimes actually bother to spend a few extra bucks to hire decent voice actors. If you've watched Ghost in the Shell, almost all of the voice acting there is done beautifully and Full Metal Alchemist's voices were rather up to snuff (and much more fitting to watch than in Japanese considering the western setting).

The only thing that bothers me is that the show's pretty long, and sometimes voice actors won't be able to be around for the whole thing, so you'd see things like 3 voice actors for one person (watch Evangelion and notice the differences in Toji's and Fiyutski's voices throughout the series - and that was only half the length of deathnote).


By the way, whoever said that the second half of Deathnote was stupid compared to the first is right. N really takes L's negative qualities and embodies them, while L takes no chances and wants to be absolutely sure, N does the opposite, makes a wild guess, and chases after it. If he was wrong, he'd die, and everything he did would be for nothing. Besides that, he really breaks all sorts of international and national laws with the things he pulls off. Not that L didn't, but he certainly did it a lot less, and a lot more discretely.

Yeah I wasn't a big fan of N either. He was basically just lucky with a few circumstances that could easily have ended up not in his favor. L was by far my favorite out of the two.

Haha, that I can agree with.

There seems to be an interesting voice cast so far, maybe I'll check this out for my own amusement. Oh wow, this is something, Ryuk is going to sound like Vegeta.

Is this really such a bad thing? I don't see anything wrong with Adult Swim adding Death Note to their roster; that doesn't immediately mean that the series will get butchered. Blood+'s dub wasn't too bad from what little I've seen and it didn't look like they censored it too much.

The second arc wasn't that bad. I thought it was really interesting. I wasn't much of a fan of Near, but Mello was freakin' rad! ♥

Just finished watching the premiere on the Adult Swim Fix, and all I can say is... Damn. I'm impressed.
So far, I'd say the voices are done pretty well. Light sounds much better than he did in the preview that was released a while ago, and Ryuk sounds surprisingly good as well. He's even got his creepy-ass chuckle still. =D The only major characters we get to hear in the first episode are Light and Ryuk, of course, so they're all I can say much about. But so far, so good, I say. Looking forward to seeing more.

I just saw the Death Note preview, also. ;p
It was actually very good. The only complaint I have was Light's laugh wasn't as good as how it sounds in japanese. I'm very glad they didn't stick with that voice actor they used for the trailer. He sounds like a teenager with a god complex, not a bratty punk.
Ryuk sounded pretty much what I expected him to - still maintaining that sweet, creepy, and condescending tone. ♥

I'm sort of looking forward to hearing L's voice, now. The dub really surprised me. 8]

I'm upset I missed this, now I have to scan for a youtube vid of it

I definitely think original Japanese voices are nearly always better. They just sound more real and authentic

Well, at the moment, it's not too late. The Adult Swim Fix still has it up, surprisingly. Might be down sometime soon, but when I just checked now, it was still there.
http://www.adultswim.com/video/index.html
As long as you live in the U.S., you should be able to watch it.

I fell in with the dub rather quickly. Unfortunately, I waned off the sub about midway through the series due a deeper focus on Bleach and D.N.Angel. So this is a good opportunity to play catch up. In particular, have to say they really nailed Light's laughter shortly before Ryuk arrives. Looking forward to more.

Thanks Chalryn I did get to see it. I dunno, the voice acting is good. thats rlly all i can say. We havent seen enuf characters yet, and seen them in any real action, but I've already seen the series and own the manga, so im not sure id watch the dub. I think this series is only good the first time thru and should only be seen again if u forget all of what happened.

Its just that its built on suspense and thought process, and once u know what happens, it doesnt make it as good anymore

Yeah when it came on I was like "Woah, the voices sound so.. not bad!".

Good news, Death Note is the second anime my girlfriend has decided that she likes. lol

Saw last saturday's episode, not that bad for dubbing and series in general I guess I can see why my friend and my girlfriend are obsessed over it. Still I'd rather wait for when Code Geass gets released internationally. Which should be sometime soon. Only then I'll compare and contrast series between dub and storyline (never got to reading or watching Death Note).

You know i've been wondering for episode 2 of death note, when L uses that prisoner on death row to be bait. How could Light fall for such a obvious trap, his freakin name was right there! I mean like who's stupid enough to do that? Even though Light was you know he should have still known it was a trap.

Why should he have known? At that point, there was no way for Light to even suspect that anybody even thought that a name and face were even required for him to kill. He had just gotten the Death Note shortly beforehand, and as far as he could tell, the police were completely oblivious to how the murders were being committed. Having a name plate or having the name displayed on the screen while somebody is speaking on television isn't an uncommon thing, either.

Anyway, I'm a bit unsure about L's voice. It seems sort of fitting, yet it also lacks that sort of... "apathetic?" sound that L's Japanese voice had. At the moment, though, L hasn't even revealed his face, so I'll wait until sometime after he does to make my ultimate decision on his English voice.

[quote]Anyway, I'm a bit unsure about L's voice. It seems sort of fitting, yet it also lacks that sort of... "apathetic?" sound that L's Japanese voice had. At the moment, though, L hasn't even revealed his face, so I'll wait until sometime after he does to make my ultimate decision on his English voice. [quote]

What do you mean, you wnat to see the face actually see the voice? YOu can't just picture the voice speaking on his face?? haha jk

I loved how L used the TV like that. This anime/manga is exceptional in the beginning because it's all logic and mind games, so much tension. That's why I couldn't stand the 2nd arc of it.

Nah, I can, kinda. Just, at the moment, L's still just the "cool, anonymous detective guy behind the monitor," so he hasn't really shown his... slightly "strange" side. Sometimes, when characters show different sides of themselves, their voices seem to change a little, or just seem to be more/less fitting than other times. Basically, at the moment, his English voice sounds a bit off to me, since I'm so used to that sort of lazy/apathetic (or something) tone that L has in the Japanese release. I'm wondering if his English voice will start to show that part of him a bit more when he reveals his face (and behavior) is all.

ahh true yeah I gotcha. Well, I'm sure the voice can grow on you anyways. I know I had a REALLY hard time with the transition of Al's voice in FMA from Japanese to English, but I eventually got used to the English one too, and now I think both of their voices fit.

There's really nothing like original Japanese voices though (Except for the anime scene u showed me Chalryn that was amazing), but Japanese voices usually just have much more emotion and acting in them.

I myself am a pretty big fan of Deathnote and Ive got to say..."L" RULEZ!