Apple_Juice
Dec 4 2007, 07:44 PM
do you think that there are aliens somewhere out there, or just us humans? tell me what you think and why.
Noir
Dec 5 2007, 05:48 AM
There's alot at the Lowes down the street.
Voyou San
Dec 5 2007, 05:57 AM
its just us, or so i think.. but i also dont really care either way as long as the aliens are super nice

plus i hope we dont find any, cause we will prolly claim that they hold weapons of mass destruction and try to bomb them.
Apple_Juice
Dec 5 2007, 08:16 AM
lol, good point, then we will have planet wars. 0.o
Dragon Brigade
Dec 5 2007, 01:02 PM
Truth be told, I’m not positive what my thoughts on life existing on other planets would be. I suppose smaller life forms, though probably not intelligent life, might exist elsewhere. Intelligent, or smarter, life like us humans I don’t think would exist. My reason for saying that would be because God created us in his likeness, so if there’s something existing out there in physical form that is greater than humans, that would be contradictory. Then again, if you don’t believe in God, saying that wouldn’t really matter much. But, that’s just what I believe.
So having said that, I guess my answer would be that no, I don’t think there is intelligent life out there. Maybe there are smaller, unintelligent life forms that exist elsewhere, or did exist elsewhere, but I don’t think anything is in existence that could compete with humans as far as intelligence.
Cassini
Dec 6 2007, 09:53 AM
Gotta say they exist. There are billions of galaxies out there, and billions of stars within each galaxy. Each star has a potential of having planets, and we know that some stars DO have planets (quite a few actually). The chances that life does not exist in any of these circumstances is slim. True, the chance that life DOES exist is slim, because the conditions have to be just right. But with all the billions and billions of stars, it seems unfathomable that the right conditions would "only" be created 1 time.
The Evil Dead
Dec 6 2007, 10:54 AM
I'm sure there's some other forms of life on a planet in ONE of the other galaxies out there.
:: Shrug :: Be kinda dumb to say otherwise.
Eneas
Dec 6 2007, 12:06 PM
I think that it'd be dumb to believe that there isn't. There's so many galaxies in the universe...it's kind of self-centered to believe that we're the only ones out here.
Voyou San
Dec 6 2007, 03:50 PM
people believe in god, might as well believe in aliens also
True Rune
Dec 6 2007, 06:28 PM
Doubt it, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were.
Logain
Dec 6 2007, 08:50 PM
I'll say that yes there are... if you're religious, well, than in the bible it says there are other lifeforms, and if you're scientific, it would be impossible to say in an infinite universe there is a finite number of intelligent creatures.
-Vincent-
Dec 8 2007, 09:07 AM
Of course there are.
Razael
Dec 8 2007, 10:53 AM
Yes.
Logain
Dec 9 2007, 05:35 PM
Care to elaborate?
Razael
Dec 9 2007, 05:39 PM
No.
Athrun
Dec 9 2007, 07:22 PM
Yeah, why not. If there's another planet out there in any of the millions of galaxies of the universe that's warm enough to produce life, then definitely.
Denim
Dec 10 2007, 05:31 AM
In an infinite universes, there's an infinite us, and infinite others.
Apple_Juice
Dec 10 2007, 04:39 PM
who said it had to be warm?
Nokte
Dec 10 2007, 05:03 PM
Quantum Mechanics loosely states that until something is directly percieved, it simultaneously both exists and doesn't. Upon it entering one's perception, it then either exists or doesn't. (See: Shrodinger's Cat)
Taking this law into account, and taking the infinite expansion of the universe into account, my belief can be summed up like this: there is always the chance of another form of life (sentient, sapient, or otherwise) somewhere in the universe, even if we haven't discovered it yet.
What was it? Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence?
Contact said it best. "I'll tell you one thing about the universe, though. The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space. Right?"
Athrun
Dec 10 2007, 06:01 PM
QUOTE (Apple_Juice @ Dec 11 2007, 01:39 AM)

who said it had to be warm?
Life. Have you tried planting a tree during winter?
The only reason why there is life on this planet is because it's the right distance from the sun. Not too hot and not too cold.
Nokte
Dec 10 2007, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Dec 10 2007, 09:01 PM)

QUOTE (Apple_Juice @ Dec 11 2007, 01:39 AM)

who said it had to be warm?
Life. Have you tried planting a tree during winter?
The only reason why there is life on this planet is because it's the right distance from the sun. Not too hot and not too cold.
Ever see a penguin in Libya?
Warmpth is relative, but you're pretty much right - so long as cellular movement can occur, life has a chance. But as soon as we hit absolute zero, we're all kind of screwed.
But really, quite a few various forms of life have adapted for incredibly cold climates. Moreso, I imagine quite a few life forms have adapted for unimaginably cold climates. Similar, I suppose, to the forms of life that have adapted to the ungodly hot climates of volcanic vents, etc. Sure, for the most part, these forms of life aren't exactly "complex," but life is life and pine trees do grow during the winter.
Apple_Juice
Dec 10 2007, 06:48 PM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Dec 10 2007, 06:01 PM)

QUOTE (Apple_Juice @ Dec 11 2007, 01:39 AM)

who said it had to be warm?
Life. Have you tried planting a tree during winter?
The only reason why there is life on this planet is because it's the right distance from the sun. Not too hot and not too cold.
you got a point there, but not all life needs to be warm, some life needs the hotness, and some die in the hotness.
Athrun
Dec 10 2007, 07:27 PM
QUOTE (Apple_Juice @ Dec 11 2007, 03:48 AM)

you got a point there, but not all life needs to be warm, some life needs the hotness, and some die in the hotness.
Like Nokia above mentioned, cellular movement needs a certain degree of warmth. Even polar bears and animals that live in extreme cold are not frozen solid inside, but maintain a proper warmth inside.
Anyway, I said warm
enough. Not too hot, and not too cold. Earth is such a planet.
If there was another planet with the same distace to it's nearest star/sun, then life certainly has a chance of evolving.
Nokte
Dec 10 2007, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Dec 10 2007, 10:27 PM)

If there was another planet with the same distace to it's nearest star/sun, then life certainly has a chance of evolving.
It doesn't have to be heat radiation from the sun, Athrun. The thing is, life just needs some form of heat in general. Volcanic heat works just as well, and is perhaps the heat source that life had originally evolved out of.
Yes, there's a theoretical habitable zone in which where if a planet is supposed to traverse, life as we know it could arise. However it's been long since acknowledged that life can very easily arise out of planets outside of this zone so long as a number of conditions are met. Europa, for instance, is considered to be a highly potential spot to find extraterrestrial life, namely due to the potential volcanic activity going on beneath its surface. If there is volcanic activity occurring, then it'd have the two major components of life all ready for it: heat and liquid water. Thus, life. Life that exists quite aways away from sol.
Alternatively, there exists the possibility of life that isn't carbon based. There exists other elements which can make the same kinds of bonds as carbon, silicon being the most commonly cited one. Silicon, though admittingly poorly suited for biochemistry, shares many of the same properties as carbon and can (albeit with a bit more difficulty) form the same strands of complex compounds as carbon.
Life doesn't necessarily have to be our view of life. It could be radically different from us, in every single way. But life is life, and it's often left people amazed at just where and how it'll show up.
Apple_Juice
Dec 11 2007, 12:19 PM
um sry for being off topic here but, damn nokte, you are mad smart for a 13 year old.
Nokte
Dec 11 2007, 03:04 PM
QUOTE (Apple_Juice @ Dec 11 2007, 03:19 PM)

um sry for being off topic here but, damn nokte, you are mad smart for a 13 year old.
... I'm 18.
Hugo
Dec 12 2007, 12:49 AM
I wonder if alien woman are easier to get with than human women? Let's face it ladies, courting you can be expensive.
By the way, if you haven't noticed, apple juice isn't the brightest person on the forum.
Apple_Juice
Dec 12 2007, 01:44 PM
^ i think they already know that.
nokte, then why did you put your 13 on the intro thing? if you didnt do that, i wouldnt have said anything.
EDIT: wow, i just went back to make sure.. again that i wasnt seeing things that you were 13, but you changed it yesterday, and you forgot to put the "X". so yeah, sry if i sounded retarded, which i did.
Rhadamanthus
Dec 12 2007, 02:09 PM
Athrun
Dec 12 2007, 03:04 PM
QUOTE (Hugo @ Dec 12 2007, 09:49 AM)

I wonder if alien woman are easier to get with than human women? Let's face it ladies, courting you can be expensive.
Maybe they haven't invented Womens rights yet.
Dante2ndAdvent
Dec 12 2007, 06:12 PM
Like the song says:
"So remember when you're feeling very small and insecure, how amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!"
So yes, there's.....something....out there....
Nokte
Dec 12 2007, 06:25 PM
QUOTE (Apple_Juice @ Dec 12 2007, 04:44 PM)

^ i think they already know that.
nokte, then why did you put your 13 on the intro thing? if you didnt do that, i wouldnt have said anything.
EDIT: wow, i just went back to make sure.. again that i wasnt seeing things that you were 13, but you changed it yesterday, and you forgot to put the "X". so yeah, sry if i sounded retarded, which i did.
It's cool. I actually forgot to put the "V," not the "X." But either way, yeah, I originally forgot to put it.
Apple_Juice
Dec 12 2007, 06:50 PM
yeah, the V i meant, my bad again.
Hugo
Dec 13 2007, 04:25 AM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Dec 12 2007, 02:04 PM)

QUOTE (Hugo @ Dec 12 2007, 09:49 AM)

I wonder if alien woman are easier to get with than human women? Let's face it ladies, courting you can be expensive.
Maybe they haven't invented Womens rights yet.
Then we could revert to our natural caveman ways!? sweet.
Oh and again apple shows us her advanced intellect *golfclaps*
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