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Noir
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7133933.stm

loooololol, This guy must have been ##### retarded. Nobody is going to remember this douche.
True Rune
Poor kid, poor people, terrible things happen.
Kronik
Neh, to the whole 'I'm gonna be famous' thing. Well...neh you can't really call the kid an attention whore. Well, second thought, maybe you can. He did receive help from handfuls of people his whole life. I'm sure mass amounts of attention was bestowed upon him due to how troubled he is.

I agree the youth getting assault weapons and going on killing sprees happen way to often. Or maybe not often enough. How often does this have to happen every year for people to look at society as these troubled kids do? No one ever sees it from their perspective it's always:


"Duh...he kild ppl and blmed it on jockx?"


The way I see it and have always seen it is that these kids just look at the way we live and how inhumane and insensitive society can be and see themselves spiraling down our heirarchy with no future ahead of them no matter how intelligent they might be. And I know you're just wondering why they don't off themselves quietly and save us the tragic drama.

It's because no one ever ever ever remembers some kid that commits suicide unless he was a varsity football player with a college education ahead of him and the NFL following shortly after. And kids like these just want to strike back against the ordain structure that has tortured them their whole life.

...Yeah.
Noir
And I call him an attention whore because he killed other people first, in an attempt to gain more attention.
-Vincent-
Good. The more people like this, the longer humans will exist.
Athrun



Hugo
QUOTE (ArashiKa @ Dec 9 2007, 01:03 AM) *
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7133933.stm

loooololol, This guy must have been ##### retarded. Nobody is going to remember this douche.



Nobody? Yet you posted the link here on this forum, and I'm sure other people posted it on other forums. Soon enough another documentary will come out on school shootings and his name will be mentioned. He will be remembered, in part (albeit a small one) thanks to you.
Voyou San
he will be remembered.. look at the columbine shootings and 911, people still talk about that ##### (which is major annoying but oh well)
Noir
QUOTE (Hugo @ Dec 12 2007, 12:44 AM) *
QUOTE (ArashiKa @ Dec 9 2007, 01:03 AM) *
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7133933.stm

loooololol, This guy must have been ##### retarded. Nobody is going to remember this douche.



Nobody? Yet you posted the link here on this forum, and I'm sure other people posted it on other forums. Soon enough another documentary will come out on school shootings and his name will be mentioned. He will be remembered, in part (albeit a small one) thanks to you.


I posted it as soon as I saw it, and it's news so I'm sure plenty of people will have a read. What I mean is nobody is going to remember him. They're just going to say "That guy who shot people in a mall". There are so many shootings that happen this one is just another drop in the bucket.
Hugo
I will remember him now, just to spite you.
Noir
lol, Fine! In a year (if we're both still here) I might ask you if you remember the name of the guy who shot people in a mall.. if I remember.
Hugo
I'll be around this board as long as it's around. Not all the time, but periodically for sure.
The Evil Dead
I go to that mall fairly often. It has some pretty solid stores.

Hearing about this was a little shocking but honestly it really hasn't hit me. I'm pretty sure I'm going to that mall to do some shopping... But I may avoid it to head to one where I'm less likely to get shot at by crazy white kids.
AbYsS
QUOTE (Athrun @ Dec 9 2007, 01:01 PM) *





You made me Lawl, Athrun D:

If he wanted to be famous he should of done something other than shoot people to bits.. maybe I unno.. Do something meaningful with his life. become a doctor o.o people owuld of remembered him if he saved lives.
Logain
QUOTE
The way I see it and have always seen it is that these kids just look at the way we live and how inhumane and insensitive society can be and see themselves spiraling down our heirarchy with no future ahead of them no matter how intelligent they might be. And I know you're just wondering why they don't off themselves quietly and save us the tragic drama.

It's because no one ever ever ever remembers some kid that commits suicide unless he was a varsity football player with a college education ahead of him and the NFL following shortly after. And kids like these just want to strike back against the ordain structure that has tortured them their whole life.

...Yeah.


that doesn't make it any sense... if they were doing because of an inhumane and insensitive society, how does such an action strike out against it? If anything it would only be fueling it. If one that thought today's society spiraling into chaos, and truly hated it, then they wouldn't be shooting up a mall showing how inhumane its become, because thats only feeding the machine. Suicide is a cowards way out. So they can't deal with society? Why don't they try to change it? Because they're afraid. Instead of facing their challenges with courage and strength, they end up shooting innocent people. You can claim them to be part of a society thats cruel and lost, but the only thing more cruel is someone willing to rob someone elses life. Tortured them their whole life? I can see how losing a job at a McDonalds and breaking up with a girlfriend is torture. Lets not let the word get watered down after all. When I hear the word torture, thoughts like "Holocaust" and "Darfur" come to mind. But no, now that you've mentioned it, his torture is way worse.
The point here is, there is no way to see it. In no way is this action justified. If he was so worried about being a burden, or being worthless, then how does shooting a couple people make him any better? how does it fix any problems? He was just a pathetic coward
Tifa
QUOTE (Logain @ Dec 13 2007, 05:25 PM) *
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that doesn't make it any sense... if they were doing because of an inhumane and insensitive society, how does such an action strike out against it? If anything it would only be fueling it. If one that thought today's society spiraling into chaos, and truly hated it, then they wouldn't be shooting up a mall showing how inhumane its become, because thats only feeding the machine. Suicide is a cowards way out. So they can't deal with society? Why don't they try to change it? Because they're afraid. Instead of facing their challenges with courage and strength, they end up shooting innocent people. You can claim them to be part of a society thats cruel and lost, but the only thing more cruel is someone willing to rob someone elses life. Tortured them their whole life? I can see how losing a job at a McDonalds and breaking up with a girlfriend is torture. Lets not let the word get watered down after all. When I hear the word torture, thoughts like "Holocaust" and "Darfur" come to mind. But no, now that you've mentioned it, his torture is way worse.
The point here is, there is no way to see it. In no way is this action justified. If he was so worried about being a burden, or being worthless, then how does shooting a couple people make him any better? how does it fix any problems? He was just a pathetic coward



I agree with you Logain. If he was having problums he should have just faced them. Suicide is the quickest wey to deal with over wealming problums. It's just an easy way out. Sure losing his job and his girl was a blow but would hunting for a new job and looking for another girlfriend be such a trial. And if he was a burden why didn't he do something construtive about it. Did he not consider how much pain he would cause his loved ones? More importantly, did he know how much it costs to arrange a decent funeral? And I seriously doubt he tried to lift the burden and send money to pay for the furneral bill with his suicide note.
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