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AlliedG
Well just saw Tales of the Abyss ending and thought it was fantastic.

The whole 3 years thing (Tear has lipstick?) just screamed animation movie or game where remake the order, stop bad guys (like Dist who was still alive) or some brand new threat to destroy the planet.

Also too many questions like: why does Jade look sad? why does luke still have that sword, asche body, etc, etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chara...Dist_the_Reaper

Was wondering what other Tales of Games you would like to have official sequels too and your thought on possible story =p

Also could be for a japanese only tales of, as in advent children the movie for example, there was a prologue using FF7 screenies and movies lol
Dragon Brigade
All of them, because either I played them and loved them, or didn't get to play them and knew I'd love them, therefore would want to play a sequel =p. Yes, that was a terrible run-on sentence, and you have my apologies. But anyway, I guess I'd say Abyss. I've only played Symphonia, and apparently (if I read/heard correctly) that was an "unofficial" sequel to Phantasia anyways. Not an actual sequel, or even meant that way, but I guess it is. So that rules out a sequel to Phantasia, and Symphonia has a sequel on the way (<3) anyway. That leaves me with Abyss, since I have not played any of the others. I mean, I'd love any Tales game, even if they just pick (for example) Symphonia and keep milking that for what it's worth. I really wouldn't care =p.

As for storylines...It's hard for me to say right now. If I think of anything good (or remember anything from the game that they could expound upon in some way) I'll post it, but otherwise I'll just leave it to my fanboy mouth to shout for a sequel without giving ideas =p.
Mushroom
Funnily enough DB, my answer is a sequel to ToP XD ToS is set in the same world as Phantasia, just a looong time later. There's all kinds of connections, and the developers have confirmed in interviews that it is indeed the same world etc, so I'd love to see a game set in-between the two games, showing us exactly how things came to be, and just really want went down during all that time. Its proven to be a popular enjoyable world, I'd love to see those stories. Maybe even a scenario based game to cover different time periods.
PAL RPGamer
Isn't Phantasia set on Tethe'alla, i think one of Sheena's descendants is a playable character. I do actually own ToP just not got round to playing it *hangs head in shame*.

Sequel wise I would definitely like to see a TotA sequel just because the ending drove me mad (thought admittedly it was one of the best endings to a game i've seen - anime cut-scenes rule) - though whether it warrants a sequel is another question - the story was wound up very nicely and though there are a lot of things that could be done i'm not sure whether it'd just be a case of fan service.
Do i think a TotA sequel will be done? Well its a good possibility - the Tales studio do seem to be making a habit of releasing a sequel to more successful titles in the series Tales of Destiny II (Japanese) and now ToS KoR. Not much of a habit but they've gotta start some where.

I've said it before but i'd like to see a sequel to ToS where we get to see the journey of Mithos and Martel - that party would be awesome.
AlliedG
I would hope it would be a anime like tales of symphonia (which obviously will have a 2nd series as its only half-way through game) but instead of retelling, perhaps like advent children?

I think my hopes were raised when resident evil: degeneration was announced, i.e. a "proper" resident evil movie.

In regards to fan service, I guess Tales of World is one (well at least released) unlike say

Tales of Fandom

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigbo...85119_front.jpg

Which also has a Luke version.

Also for the sake of adding some fire to some burning tinders, originally Abyss was to come out on Gamecube, but ditched because of larger PS2 fanbase, hence why there are rumours of Tales of Harmony on the Wii which carries on minutes after the ending in Abyss.
Mushroom
QUOTE (PAL RPGamer @ Jan 17 2008, 06:19 AM) *
Isn't Phantasia set on Tethe'alla, i think one of Sheena's descendants is a playable character. I do actually own ToP just not got round to playing it *hangs head in shame*.


Haha gah, I made a a horrible typo >_< Its the other way round ToS is the prequel to ToP, I meant to say before instead of later. I'll spil out the next bit, although I think everyone has finished Tos:o

As you see at the end of ToS, the two worlds are merged and the tree is born again, and the planet has the two moons. Pay attention when you get to playing ToP, you might see some similarities on the map to Tethe'alla and sylverant wink.gif Basically thats why the end finishes as Lloyd is about to name the tree - you'll find out the name in ToP XD and as I said, there's all kinds of little in connections.
Dragon Brigade
Oh, well then =D. That changes my answer just a tad, haha. I’d like a sequel to Tales of Phantasia as well. I figured that if Symphonia was a loose sequel, they might as well not bother, but I think it’d be interesting to see what happens after Symphonia altogether. Man, I have Phantasia for GBA but I set it down because the battles (sooo slow) bothered me (plus the frequency). I think I might just have to pick that back up again. Oh bugger, haha...

As for other sequels...I’ll take what I can get. Doesn’t bother me what game anymore =p.
Mushroom
Hahah. Play it! play it! If you have ToP play it! I suffered through playing it on rom >_< and I hate playing roms, I have some nature dislike for them. Anyway, that was my first tales game, and I really loved it. And you can play it and be like <3 ToS sequel~! haha. There actually is a quite obscure sequel that came outon GBA, as part of the ToW series, called summoner's lieniage (my sp sucks >_<). ITs set about 410 years later and you play as Cless' descendant. I want to play it so much, but I've yet to find a translated rom (yes, I would of suffered rom) and it never made it out of japan >_< so I don't know what to do. If anyone has a solution to that, please feel free to pm me. But ya, a proper ToP sequel with the traditional tales battle would be very good, and I agree: a ToS sequel which properly picks up after the whole ToS ongoing saga and fills the gap would be very cool. Although, maybe thats where they're going with the ToS right now tongue.gif
Dragon Brigade
I’ve just restarted the game a little earlier today. With the mindset that it’s a ToS sequel, I am totally in love with the game =p. Before, I had stopped it because I didn’t like how slow the battles went (very bothersome >.>), but for some odd reason, they don’t bother me as much anymore =D. Funny how that works. But yeah, I’m now excited to play the game just to find all the little references to ToS (or rather, what ToS used in reference to ToP, haha...).

They might actually be going that route with ToS right now. People (including me =p.) have been screaming for a sequel for quite some time, so perhaps they’re going to start reeling it in to the Tales of Phantasia time frame, or something like that. It would be interesting, to say the least =).
Mushroom
See! See what your life would be without us tongue.gif You wouldn't be staring at a small screen, playing a 12 year old ported snes game with unfortunate battle lag XD It is an awesome game, and I'm actually planning on playing ToS through then ToP, once I've knocked off Tales of Eternia. I'd really like to play it through again with the mindset that its a *sequel* to ToS haha, it would be cool looking for all the references.

I can just see it now by the way. I'm going to be in soooo much pain when ToS II hits the shelves and I can't play it >_< the wii is the only console I can't play. There is Tales of Vesperia to look forward too though happy.gif
Dragon Brigade
That's were I luck out. My sister's fiance has a Wii, and she already told me I could get the game when it comes out (yes, future planning here) and borrow/use his Wii when they visit home. I'll be in heaven <3. Otherwise I only have access to a PS2 (and faulty PS1), GameCube, Ds, and GBA...So I’m glad I’ll be able to get one good game at least for a “new” generation system (that’s not exactly new anymore, but whatever). And I'm just hoping my brother gets that PS3 soon for Tales of Vesperia...I'll be sad if I can't play it by then =(.

I've wanted to get Legendia as well (ironically, whenever I wasn't going to buy it, it was on store shelves, then I go back to buy it and it's gone...gone). Supposedly it's not the best, but isn't too bad. Does that one have any relation to ToS or ToP (or any of the others)? I know for the most part that these games don't share same storylines, but I guess if ToS and ToP are (if a bit vague), why not having others with like similarities, haha...Yeah, I haven't really played many of them, so I apologize for the noobish question in advance =p.
Mushroom
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That's were I luck out. My sister's fiance has a Wii, and she already told me I could get the game when it comes out (yes, future planning here) and borrow/use his Wii when they visit home. I'll be in heaven <3. Otherwise I only have access to a PS2 (and faulty PS1), GameCube, Ds, and GBA...So I’m glad I’ll be able to get one good game at least for a “new” generation system (that’s not exactly new anymore, but whatever). And I'm just hoping my brother gets that PS3 soon for Tales of Vesperia...I'll be sad if I can't play it by then =(.


ohmy.gif Gah, you're so lucky, looks like you have the nintendo side of things totally covered! tongue.gif I am thinking I might just buy a wii when it comes out though , or mabe the next price drop after its out XD I did the same for ToS andmy cube only cost me £50 ($100-ish) which I was really pleased with! Hey, the wii is definetely next-gen, and if I'm not mistaken it has a few awesome games secured. I'm not sure if its out yet, but don't they have the new fire emblem game coming out on wii? You should check that out <33 Haha, yea,I hope your bro does too XD mainly so you can get all the games I keep going on about, I feel bad >_< haha.

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I've wanted to get Legendia as well (ironically, whenever I wasn't going to buy it, it was on store shelves, then I go back to buy it and it's gone...gone). Supposedly it's not the best, but isn't too bad. Does that one have any relation to ToS or ToP (or any of the others)? I know for the most part that these games don't share same storylines, but I guess if ToS and ToP are (if a bit vague), why not having others with like similarities, haha...Yeah, I haven't really played many of them, so I apologize for the noobish question in advance =p.


As far as I know only one universe out of the tales series has been revisited. The games that center around its history areee (and I'll attempt to even put them in chronological order):ToS, roughly 4000 years before ToP, ToS II, set a few years after the original, then we get to ToP which was the origin point. Then there was Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon on the gameboy, set 100 years later, and finally Tales of the World: Summoner's Lineage, which is a bit more of a sequel than Nariki Dungeon, which was really only set in the same world ( I believe, I haven't played either). Those five all take play on the same world. I am trying to get a hold of the ToW game, but I'm having trouble finding a translated version >_<. Anyway, those five, as far as I know, are the only elated Tales games, the rest are set in their own worlds.Pretty cool eh? I don't know how much I would count Nariki Dungeon and Summoner's Lineage though. Sure they were set in the same world, but they didn't have the traditional battlesystem, and were more dungeon crawlerish from what I know. Very cool though, and I would like to play them one day. I would much prefer a reaaally sequel thuogh haha XDXD
Eva
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The whole 3 years thing (Tear has lipstick?) just screamed animation movie or game where remake the order, stop bad guys (like Dist who was still alive) or some brand new threat to destroy the planet.

Dist and Jade's background were cover during the Nebilim quest. Dist ended up being arrested. Dist, if another game happen to be made, would be comic relief once again. He's not much of a villain. If Abyss had a sequel, another villain would need to be introduced or a old villain had to survive, which would be absurd since the entire cast of villains all died except Dist.

Do I want another game of the series to have a sequel? I don't need a sequel. Just another fun and exciting Tales game with a fresh plot. Though, not against the idea either. I would prefer the Japanese Tales game translated and released in the U.S. at the moment more than another Tales game.
AlliedG
Meh I would perfer PSN downloads on global basis so us people in Europe could have a go ohboy.gif
PAL RPGamer
QUOTE (Mushroom @ Jan 17 2008, 08:59 PM) *
I'll spil out the next bit, although I think everyone has finished Tos:o
As you see at the end of ToS, the two worlds are merged and the tree is born again, and the planet has the two moons. Pay attention when you get to playing ToP, you might see some similarities on the map to Tethe'alla and sylverant wink.gif Basically thats why the end finishes as Lloyd is about to name the tree - you'll find out the name in ToP XD and as I said, there's all kinds of little in connections.

Right OK i knew ToP was set after ToS - major spoiler here people so if you've not finished ToS then stay clear... But when you say the two worlds merged do you lieterally mean merged into one - cos i f that is the case then i've not played ToS for far too long and am in serious need of a replay as i've forgotten that. I remember Martel merging with Tabatha and becoming the guardian of the tree which with its return brought the flow of mana back to BOTH worlds so they could thrive. And of course Derris Kharlan floating off into space with Kratos on board. With the place names being of places like Torent Forest still lingering in ToP i thought the world was Tethe'alla but obviously am wrong now whoa i can't believe i forgot such an important plot point and i call myself a Tales fan - right sod ToL i'm pulling ToS out as soon as Suikoden is finished (at least my Wii will see some use now)- and then its on to ToP - that way i'll be able to watch the ToP anime as well (which did get the english translation with the voices used in ToW RM).

QUOTE (Dragon Brigade @ Jan 18 2008, 02:34 AM) *
I've wanted to get Legendia as well (ironically, whenever I wasn't going to buy it, it was on store shelves, then I go back to buy it and it's gone...gone)
Lol - this is what happens to me all the time - this is why my backlog is getting so long cos i've got to the stage now that if there is a game i know i'll want to play in the future I buy it as soon as i see - otherwise i'll never be able to find it again - that so nearly happened with ToS and Ar Tonelico.
ToL has no relation to the others DB

QUOTE (Mushroom @ Jan 18 2008, 03:05 AM) *
Hey, the wii is definetely next-gen, and if I'm not mistaken it has a few awesome games secured. I'm not sure if its out yet, but don't they have the new fire emblem game coming out on wii? You should check that out <33
Fire Emblem came out in the states back in November - but still no EU release - it might be an idea waiting off getting a Wii - if ToS KoR ends up a states only title it'd be wise to import an NTSC Wii - i wish i'd waited before taking the plunge but i thought Fire emblem was a cert for a PAL release - wrong again it would seem.

QUOTE (mushroom)
As far as I know only one universe out of the tales series has been revisited. The games that center around its history areee (and I'll attempt to even put them in chronological order):ToS, roughly 4000 years before ToP, ToS II, set a few years after the original, then we get to ToP which was the origin point. Then there was Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon on the gameboy, set 100 years later, and finally Tales of the World: Summoner's Lineage, which is a bit more of a sequel than Nariki Dungeon, which was really only set in the same world
See i knew there was some of the Tales of the world series set in the Aselia timeline but i didn't know specific details like that was known - thanks for the info.
Actually there has been one other universe revisited and that was the one of Tales of Destiny - Tales of Destiny II (not the one we know as Tales of Eternia - i think it was the confusion over the naming of the titles that prevented a localisation from being pursued) which is set about 20 years later and even has the children of some of the main characters from the original.

QUOTE (mushroom)
I can just see it now by the way. I'm going to be in soooo much pain when ToS II hits the shelves and I can't play it >_< the wii is the only console I can't play. There is Tales of Vesperia to look forward too thoug
See this is where i run out of luck - if ToV ends up on the 360 i'm screwed unless of course i end up being able to add "...and ToV was what got me into Microsoft consoles..." to the list.
Eva
QUOTE (AlliedG @ Jan 18 2008, 05:40 AM) *
Meh I would perfer PSN downloads on global basis so us people in Europe could have a go ohboy.gif

Import?

I have the Japanese version of Tales of Rebirth, Tales of Destiny PS2 and Tales of Destiny 2. Just annoying reading a script off the internet to understand what's being said. That's the main reason I haven't played either of the games. I would prefer a translated version released of each game.

It would be nice if Tales of Destiny 2 was translated and released on the PSP. Though, I doubt that will ever happen.
AlliedG
Yes I could import but your reason about reading a script is my reason not to, also not to mention the stupid VAT, shipping costs to UK besides it would be far more convienent if all the Tales of .. games were simply downloadable or packaged in one giant anthalogy (like Square-enix is doing with older FF's)

Also seems kinda pointless buying a import game if you are not playing it because of language barrier no?
Mushroom
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i can't believe i forgot such an important plot point and i call myself a Tales fan



Hahahah. Yea man I'm near certain thats how it happened.The tree and the sword united the world once more (since I'm pretty sure they were one world before the tree was destroyed), and thats why in ToP the world has both Sylverant and Te'thella's moons tongue.gif XD

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Fire Emblem came out in the states back in November - but still no EU release - it might be an idea waiting off getting a Wii - if ToS KoR ends up a states only title it'd be wise to import an NTSC Wii - i wish i'd waited before taking the plunge but i thought Fire emblem was a cert for a PAL release - wrong again it would seem.


>_< I had no idea we hadn't got a release. urgggh. Probably because the gamecube game sold quite badly. But C'mon. I remember it came out, and I was like sweet, fire emblem! Then I went into GAME and they wer charging £40 - for a dying console game. I can see why alot of people would of skipped it. Its really just been the last year they've actually moved GC prices down to acceptable. Anyway, thats a great idea. I could save a bucketload on an import as well.

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Actually there has been one other universe revisited and that was the one of Tales of Destiny - Tales of Destiny II (not the one we know as Tales of Eternia - i think it was the confusion over the naming of the titles that prevented a localisation from being pursued) which is set about 20 years later and even has the children of some of the main characters from the original.


LOL. I don't know how I could forge tthat >_< the most obvious sequel of them all. Probably because I haven't played it yet XD I have the first one ready to play though, its just when haha, I've already decided to do ToS and ToP again, and then probably Grandia 2. And I stiiill have BoF3 to play, and even then, tons of ps3 games >_< timetimetime.


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See this is where i run out of luck - if ToV ends up on the 360 i'm screwed unless of course i end up being able to add "...and ToV was what got me into Microsoft consoles..." to the list.


Haah, well, the indications do seem to be saying itll be on the 360, I just hope not exclusive. Not that it would be a problem, just much more convenient if it comes out on PS3 for me.

Oh and for anyone who cared, I did update my tales of eternia thread last night, I just put it in my previouspost as an edit, so it didn't come up as a new post XD go read about my woes fighting Sylph XD


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I have the Japanese version of Tales of Rebirth, Tales of Destiny PS2 and Tales of Destiny 2. Just annoying reading a script off the internet to understand what's being said. That's the main reason I haven't played either of the games. I would prefer a translated version released of each game.



Haha, missed this first time round >_< I wanted to comment, I think this is what I'm going to do with Summoner's Liniege because I found a written translation last night. It would just be so much better if I could find a translated game haha
PAL RPGamer
No your were 100% spot on with it Mushroom and as soon as you mentioned it the pieces started falling back into place - I haven't a clue why i thought otherwise, though my memory has never been a strong point - though i just cant think why i forgot something that was such a momental part of the ending yet the entire firing of the mana cannon sequence i can remember virtually frame by frame.

QUOTE (eva)
I have the Japanese version of Tales of Rebirth, Tales of Destiny PS2 and Tales of Destiny 2. Just annoying reading a script off the internet to understand what's being said. That's the main reason I haven't played either of the games. I would prefer a translated version released of each game.

Tbh i've thought of doing it but never got past the idea of hating having to read a script to understand whats going on - it just removes you from the story and the flow of the plot. I'd rather wait in the hope that a translation come out than play the game and only enjoy it a fraction of what I should do.
I'd be happy to just see them release the directors cut of ToD over here let alone the sequel - seriously that game looks sweet - being able to play it from TWO new points of view is brilliant - like Mushroom i'm still yet to play ToD but if i were i'd love it to be a translated version of this.

QUOTE (AlliedG)
Yes I could import but your reason about reading a script is my reason not to, also not to mention the stupid VAT, shipping costs to UK

If you know the right companies then costs and the likes can be seriously reduced - for japanese products to the uk try playasia or otaku.co.uk (particularly good for original soundtracks, art-books and other merchandise) and though you'll pay a slight premium on the price its not at all that bad - and as most of them are UK based or know how to get round the import duty - you wont have to pay any fines.
AlliedG
QUOTE (PAL RPGamer @ Jan 18 2008, 08:15 AM) *
No your were 100% spot on with it Mushroom and as soon as you mentioned it the pieces started falling back into place - I haven't a clue why i thought otherwise, though my memory has never been a strong point - though i just cant think why i forgot something that was such a momental part of the ending yet the entire firing of the mana cannon sequence i can remember virtually frame by frame.

QUOTE (eva)
I have the Japanese version of Tales of Rebirth, Tales of Destiny PS2 and Tales of Destiny 2. Just annoying reading a script off the internet to understand what's being said. That's the main reason I haven't played either of the games. I would prefer a translated version released of each game.

Tbh i've thought of doing it but never got past the idea of hating having to read a script to understand whats going on - it just removes you from the story and the flow of the plot. I'd rather wait in the hope that a translation come out than play the game and only enjoy it a fraction of what I should do.
I'd be happy to just see them release the directors cut of ToD over here let alone the sequel - seriously that game looks sweet - being able to play it from TWO new points of view is brilliant - like Mushroom i'm still yet to play ToD but if i were i'd love it to be a translated version of this.

QUOTE (AlliedG)
Yes I could import but your reason about reading a script is my reason not to, also not to mention the stupid VAT, shipping costs to UK

If you know the right companies then costs and the likes can be seriously reduced - for japanese products to the uk try playasia or otaku.co.uk (particularly good for original soundtracks, art-books and other merchandise) and though you'll pay a slight premium on the price its not at all that bad - and as most of them are UK based or know how to get round the import duty - you wont have to pay any fines.


I'm more concerned about size of packaging and the royal mail costs. Tear Grants for example cost £29.99 + £10.00 from packaging although she is worth every single penny =p
Dragon Brigade
QUOTE (Mushroom @ Jan 17 2008, 10:05 PM) *
:o Gah, you're so lucky, looks like you have the nintendo side of things totally covered! :P I am thinking I might just buy a wii when it comes out though , or mabe the next price drop after its out XD I did the same for ToS andmy cube only cost me £50 ($100-ish) which I was really pleased with! Hey, the wii is definetely next-gen, and if I'm not mistaken it has a few awesome games secured. I'm not sure if its out yet, but don't they have the new fire emblem game coming out on wii? You should check that out <33 Haha, yea,I hope your bro does too XD mainly so you can get all the games I keep going on about, I feel bad >_< haha.



Yup, Radiant Dawn was released for the Wii, and my sister got it as a Christmas present =). I don’t think she’s played it yet (if it were me, I’d have jumped all over it), but she has it at the least =p. And thanks for that time line as well. I haven't played the GameBoy version of Phantasia, nor Tales of the World (don't have the system) though. That does answer my question about whether or not any of the others are related though, so thank you =). I could basically just ask for any game minus those five(ish) to have a sequel done and I'd be safe =p.



QUOTE (PAL RPGamer @ Jan 18 2008, 05:44 AM) *
Lol - this is what happens to me all the time - this is why my backlog is getting so long cos i've got to the stage now that if there is a game i know i'll want to play in the future I buy it as soon as i see - otherwise i'll never be able to find it again - that so nearly happened with ToS and Ar Tonelico.

ToL has no relation to the others DB



Oh, I know =(. I saw Golden Sun for the GBA at a local store way back when, and I kept looking at it and saying, "this-looks-cool", but I never got it because 1) worried it wouldn't be good 2) wasn't sure I had enough money at the time, haha. Then I went back to get it, and I had to settle for the second (which wasn't there before). But, I was satisfied with it because it was a brilliant game anyway. But yeah, I've learned to just buy the games if I see them and want them and I have that little red light going off inside telling me it's going to be gone before I come back, haha...

I wasn’t sure if ToL had any relation to the others or not. I didn’t think it would, but just thought I’d ask, since some of these others did, haha...Thanks for the clarification =).
Mushroom
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Oh, I know =(. I saw Golden Sun for the GBA at a local store way back when, and I kept looking at it and saying, "this-looks-cool", but I never got it because 1) worried it wouldn't be good 2) wasn't sure I had enough money at the time, haha. Then I went back to get it, and I had to settle for the second (which wasn't there before). But, I was satisfied with it because it was a brilliant game anyway. But yeah, I've learned to just buy the games if I see them and want them and I have that little red light going off inside telling me it's going to be gone before I come back, haha...


Coincedentally, what did I find today but....Golden Sun biggrin.gif! I've had it for ages and I've hardly even played it. The little I did play though was very awesome and I think I'm going to give that a go at some point too now ^^
Dragon Brigade
QUOTE (Mushroom @ Jan 18 2008, 08:22 PM) *
Coincedentally, what did I find today but....Golden Sun :D! I've had it for ages and I've hardly even played it. The little I did play though was very awesome and I think I'm going to give that a go at some point too now ^^


You definitely have to! I beat the GS 2 (first one I got) in maybe two months (longer than it probably should have, but I was obsessed with everything about the game and kept playing), but my point I’m getting to is that I was so excited to play the first, I rushed over to GameStop a day later and bought a used copy of the first game (wasn’t sure it’d still be there---I saw they had one in stock on their website or something) and beat it in, oh, three weeks maybe (still longer than it should have taken =p.). But yeah, it’s a really good rpg for the GBA. I just wish they would have somehow kept going with the series =(. There’s a bit they could have done yet, even after the second game. Oh well. Good game though =). Up there on my list of favorites, haha...
Mushroom
Hahah, I'll definetely play it then, so we can get a Golden Sun thread going in the nintendo section XD activity~! What happened with that series any, did 2 have an uber happy ending or something? I ewas sure as hell they'd do a third one on the gamecube and it felt like they were developing it in one of their big franchises, but then nothing. Seems like a missed opportunity. I do really want to play it though. Might take it in with me to uni each day haha <3 playduring lectures XD
Dragon Brigade
QUOTE (Mushroom @ Jan 18 2008, 08:35 PM) *
Hahah, I'll definetely play it then, so we can get a Golden Sun thread going in the nintendo section XD activity~! What happened with that series any, did 2 have an uber happy ending or something? I ewas sure as hell they'd do a third one on the gamecube and it felt like they were developing it in one of their big franchises, but then nothing. Seems like a missed opportunity. I do really want to play it though. Might take it in with me to uni each day haha <3 playduring lectures XD



The second had an ending that basically was good enough to tie up the games in an E rated fashion (you'll find out what I mean after you beat it, I'm sure >.o), but at the same time left a lot to be expounded upon. But yeah, I suppose I should stop posting about this in here, as it is a bit off topic =p. I actually started a topic about it in the Nintendo section, so go post in that one to continue the discussion =p. activity~! =).
Mushroom
XDXD Yes, I should try and drag this back on topic somehow. We're discussing Tales of sequels apparently. Well, here's a question. Tales of Eternia, Abyss, Legendia...none of those have sequels. We've kind of established what nes we do want sequels to. Are there any you guys think shouldn't have a sequel? Ending was too good, or, you jsut think a sequel should be saved for the extra specially good games, or whatever really. For example, ToP is an amaing game, and I love how they've filled in alot of backstory with ToS, and while they've done a few gazillion eyars later sequels, I'm not sure if I really would want them to do a sequel. I mean, in theory sure, but i would be scared the execution wouldn't live up to the original. I mean, i enjoy the FF sequels, honestly. But I don't think they've done one yet that was really worth it, or lived up to the original. and sometimes thats just not possible. Its tricky business. Sometimes a Tale has to end. XD.
Dragon Brigade
QUOTE (Mushroom @ Jan 18 2008, 09:37 PM) *
Sometimes a Tale has to end.



You just crushed me with that statement. Thought I should inform you =p.

Well, to be honest, as much as I've been blabbering about how I want a lot of Symphonia sequels, I'm sure none of them will be greater than the original <3. I suppose just because with sequels, usually they go and move on to a different cast, so the people you loved in the original are gone. Detracts from a game sentimentally, even if it is a brilliant game. So yeah. I'm excited for the new one coming out, since people from the original are going to be in it (Sheena =D.) and it's set in a close time frame, though I do admit I thought the ending was fine and it was mostly my inner fanboy crying out for a remake. I'm just going to be wary (though not against) when they start (if they do) dragging it out way beyond the originals. I dunno. I've never been a fan of those things, as it's too emotionally breaking =p (or in FFVII's case, sometimes just a little ridiculous). So while I do want oodles of Symphonia sequels...I don't want that many (don't quote one of my other statements saying I'd keep buying them even if they were milking the series =p.). I guess what I'd really like for someone to do is keep making sequels that have the original cast (with maybe a few added or...taken away =(.). Not many do that, and I can understand why; it would be for fanbase mainly + might get a little old to those who weren't too fond of the series/game anyway >.o. I guess that's why we have fanfics =D.

All I ask is that they go out with a bang for Symphonia and Abyss (assuming there is a sequel for it). I don't know which ones I'd say I don't want a sequel to. I'm open for one for any of them, but I guess I just don't want them to keep going with it unless they can keep the story plausible and not over-stretching the whole "sequel thing" of a game >.> ...If that makes sense...I guess I should just say that I don't want them to ruin the series/game if they make sequels to some of these, haha...

Man, this thread has now gotten a depressing aftertaste =(. Shame on you Mushroom, especially with that quote at the beginning of my post, haha =p. I do agree though...some of these they should probably leave alone. In all my daydreaming I would love for sequels, but in reality...they would probably not live up to expectations most of the time (emphasis on the 'most'). Oh well >.>
Noir
QUOTE (AlliedG @ Jan 16 2008, 04:34 PM) *
Well just saw Tales of the Abyss ending and thought it was fantastic.

The whole 3 years thing (Tear has lipstick?) just screamed animation movie or game where remake the order, stop bad guys (like Dist who was still alive) or some brand new threat to destroy the planet.

Also too many questions like: why does Jade look sad? why does luke still have that sword, asche body, etc, etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chara...Dist_the_Reaper



That bothered me too, at first. But I just made up an ending that I like. See, Asch had a body that was working fine aside from being dead, it was just a body with nobody in it and Luke's body was vanishing due to fonon separation, and Lorelei leaving the planet. So it seems logical to me that Luke's consciousness just went into Asch's body, because, well you know, Luke had a "soul" and Asch had a body.

Another couple of things that support this. The character I will just call Luke was in possession of the Key of Lorelei, it was sheathed in the fashion that Luke used because he is left handed, which is significant because Asch is right handed, right before all that Luke promised Tear that he would return and he said "I made a promise to someone" or something like that, and I recall something that a replica Cheagle said about when it died, its' origional died and it came back to life.

That and the fact that I want Luke to live. Yes.

As far as sequels, TotA all the way.
Mushroom
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You just crushed me with that statement.



Hahah, I'm so sorry, I just couldn't resist it, it was too poetic. I apologise for the somber tone, we had all gotten quite carried away with our fanboyish lvoe for the tale sseries, and I was trying to put a different spin on things XDXD
AlliedG
Don't kill off the fire XD

Rumour is sequel to Abyss is called Tales of Harmony, carries on a few minutes after ending on Wii XD

Heck if you need fanboyism, I'm the guy who doesn't have TOTA remember? XD
Dragon Brigade
Haha, I’d forgotten that AlliedG. The epitome of fanboys =p. I’m glad to hear that the Tales of the Abyss sequel actually is going to happen. I’d heard about it after I beat the first, but I never really took much into it because, after all, it was close after when I finished the first that rumors of a game happening so close to the original that I wasn’t sure if it would happen or not. I’m excited now to hear that two Tales games will come out on the Wii, both games that I’ve played/finished and loved XD

Oh, and Mushroom, I forgive you =p. Just keep such sad thoughts out of a fanboy dominated thread. Crushes the spirits of the hopefuls, and making it poetic is all the worse =p.
Mushroom
Hahaha. Don't think I didn't notice you use it in reference to Legend of Dragoon over in the nintendo forum wink.gif
Dragon Brigade
I kind of figured you'd notice it, which was why I put it (hopefully you don't actually mind) =p. It was actually a rather catchy quote, and I was in the mood for subtle irony >.o
AlliedG
QUOTE (Dragon Brigade @ Jan 19 2008, 05:34 PM) *
Haha, I’d forgotten that AlliedG. The epitome of fanboys =p. I’m glad to hear that the Tales of the Abyss sequel actually is going to happen.


Not too sure about Tales of Harmony (abyss sequel) its been on quite a few forums

http://www.cubed3.com/wii/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20777

but according to abyss official forum its false but meh maybe Namco-bandai will surprise us like they did with Tales of the World released in Europe lol.

but hey I'm a fanboy XD
PAL RPGamer
See this might be a rumour in itself but wasn't harmony an alternate title to TotA - they usually copyright a number of different titles and then pick the most suitable - for example the latest batch applied for were Tales of the Genesis, Tales of the Nexus or Tales of Hearts, the batch before that resulted in Vesperia.

As for the post on cube3 well the fact they said a remake of TotA and a sequel to ToP were to be revealed back in May does not flll me with confidence about its reliability.
Eva
QUOTE (AlliedG @ Jan 23 2008, 04:10 PM) *
but according to abyss official forum its false but meh maybe Namco-bandai will surprise us like they did with Tales of the World released in Europe lol.

Localizing a game for Europe or/and U.S.A and creating a game are quite different.

I highly doubt a sequel would be made for Abyss, but I thought Symphonia was finished and a sequel being made of that game, too. So, while I doubt at the moment, it's possible a sequel will emerge. Considering that Symphonia and Abyss both seem to be popular in the Japanese market, I can see the popularity of Abyss leading to another game or at least a short OVA series.
AlliedG
QUOTE (Eva @ Jan 26 2008, 01:26 AM) *
QUOTE (AlliedG @ Jan 23 2008, 04:10 PM) *
but according to abyss official forum its false but meh maybe Namco-bandai will surprise us like they did with Tales of the World released in Europe lol.

Localizing a game for Europe or/and U.S.A and creating a game are quite different.

I highly doubt a sequel would be made for Abyss, but I thought Symphonia was finished and a sequel being made of that game, too. So, while I doubt at the moment, it's possible a sequel will emerge. Considering that Symphonia and Abyss both seem to be popular in the Japanese market, I can see the popularity of Abyss leading to another game or at least a short OVA series.


Well they already did kind of make game for Abyss, those japanese only fancom games which are like World but on PS2. To be honest I expected some directors cut remake, like square-enix often do to FF before making it japanese only.

Also in regards to localising, seems namco-bandai only care about usa >.< (well after japan) hence the distinct lack of abyss in Europe but amusingly a sell point of abyss, is that you can recruit Luke and Tear who 99.9% of EU people would have never know about.
Dragon Brigade
QUOTE (AlliedG @ Jan 23 2008, 04:10 PM) *
QUOTE (Dragon Brigade @ Jan 19 2008, 05:34 PM) *
Haha, I’d forgotten that AlliedG. The epitome of fanboys =p. I’m glad to hear that the Tales of the Abyss sequel actually is going to happen.


Not too sure about Tales of Harmony (abyss sequel) its been on quite a few forums

http://www.cubed3.com/wii/viewtopic.php?topic_id=20777

but according to abyss official forum its false but meh maybe Namco-bandai will surprise us like they did with Tales of the World released in Europe lol.



Oh. Well, I guess that's a bit disappointing (partially that I'm reading this long after the fact, and the other half because it's not going to happen, haha...), but hence the point of this thread, eh? Perhaps they'll go and make that sequel. I for one would eat it up =). Ah well. Another game rumor to eradicate from my mind before I definitively start preaching that it's going to happen >.>
AlliedG
Well from how namco-bandai release schedule has been with Tales of games

- Renaming Tales of Eternia to Tales of Destiny 2 in USA to avoid copyright but then to actually make a proper Tales of Destiny 2 and Directors cut thing before releasing remake of Eternia on PSP but not in USA as Ubisoft was publisher

- RM somehow being released.

Its anyone guess to be hoenst in regards to sequels nocomment.gif
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