2~8~4
Mar 22 2008, 12:14 AM
I just have to say this: Vaan maybe be the only with a open-up shirt that can show off his nipples... and also have a bad attatude.
Once again, another VS.
This time is the guys who love the skies. Zidane vs Vaan
In Battle who will win?
I don't know much about Zidane but all I know is this...
His weapon is Dagger and he have a tail.
Pesmerga
Mar 28 2008, 08:53 AM
Zidane would win. Vaan ain't a fighter at all, just a street kid.
At least Zidane shows his ability in combat.
Xerno
Mar 28 2008, 09:04 AM
You make me choose between Zidane-with-the-cute-tail and Vaan-with-the-sexy-bare-chest? Hm... I'll have to think this one over... oh wait, you meant battle wise? =P In a fight I also think Zidane would win. He just seems to be more skilled. *vote goes to Ziddy!*
LagunaWannabe
Mar 28 2008, 10:46 AM
I actually like Vaan a lot. Mostly because I build him to be a more complete character in my fanfics. He's the perfect stereoytype character to go through a major change in terms of coming from nothing to being someone, and from being a scared, innocent, naive boy, to this Honorable Adventurer.
In alllll my fanfics I have Vaan turning out like Basch. I have him growing up and getting stronger so his muscle build becomes similar, getting a scar in battle similar to Basch's, and eventually growing his hair out a little so he can slick it back like Basch's. I can just toally see him transforming into a Paladin-type Knight.
Battlewise tho? Sh*t.... I would actually say Vaan, for a very interesting reason. Both are thief-like in terms of job, and they both have some pretty intense limits (I'd say Vaan's limit is better than Trance mode), but I'm gonna go and say that Vaan wins because his REAL job in FF12 Revenant Wings/FFTA2 is Sky Pirate. That's how he trains himself, as a Sky Pirate, not a thief.
And for those of you who've played FFT: War of the Lions, Balthier is a Sky Pirate. And the Sky Pirate job is RIDICULOUS in terms of what it can do: (They use a rifle/gun)
Leg Shot (Immobilize Opponant)
Arm Shot (Disables Opponant)
Barrage (This nasty 4 shot automatic-fire like combo)
Plunder Heart, Helm, Armor, Shield, Weapon (So he can still steal)
PLUS they have nasty HP
So I say Vaan with his nasty gun and skills and limit would beat Zidane. Plus Vaan can still use Summons and Magic. Zidane can not.
Pesmerga
Mar 28 2008, 12:58 PM
Why do you always have to involve abilities?
LagunaWannabe
Mar 28 2008, 01:29 PM
lol well how else are you supposed to judge their battle potential? just by which one u like better from the game?
When i think character battle, i think battle. I think what would happen if you put the two of them in an actual battle together who would defeat who based on their abilities and attacks.
QUOTE
Zidane would win. Vaan ain't a fighter at all, just a street kid.
At least Zidane shows his ability in combat.
Like.. how do you justify that in terms of battling?? lol. Cause Vaan is a fighter, you fight with him all game. And if he IS just a street kid, I don't see why Zidane isn't "just a street" kid too. And what "ability" does Zidane show in combat that Vaan doesnt? loll
Markies
Mar 28 2008, 01:51 PM
For me, I see Zidane winning this. I think his agility and two daggers would be too much for Vaan. Once Zidane gets into this "super-hyper mode", he would basically be untouchable. I don't think Vaan has enough punch to overcome the quickness of Zidane.
Of course, I am not as well versed with Vaan compared to Zidane. I know Zidane pretty well as I have beaten IX, but I haven't beaten/played FFXII yet. However, my friend is playing XII right now and is using Vaan as a tank character, so that helps him tremendously.
In all reality, it's the tail that wins it. That tail is awesome.
Pesmerga
Mar 29 2008, 02:44 AM
QUOTE (LagunaWannabe @ Mar 28 2008, 09:29 PM)

lol well how else are you supposed to judge their battle potential? just by which one u like better from the game?
When i think character battle, i think battle. I think what would happen if you put the two of them in an actual battle together who would defeat who based on their abilities and attacks.
QUOTE
Zidane would win. Vaan ain't a fighter at all, just a street kid.
At least Zidane shows his ability in combat.
Like.. how do you justify that in terms of battling?? lol. Cause Vaan is a fighter, you fight with him all game. And if he IS just a street kid, I don't see why Zidane isn't "just a street" kid too. And what "ability" does Zidane show in combat that Vaan doesnt? loll
Dude, you are mentioning things from other games, as well as fricking limiters. I mean, WTF!?
I have never seen you post in these kinds of topics, without going overboard with all these abilities and limiters, funnily enough, only abilities for one character and totally ignoring the other.
If we include abilities, Thievery is going to kill Vaan. For 8mp you'll deal 9999 damage. Yes, I know, Thievery has to be maxed, but when we include the abilities, we include them fully.
king of sin
Mar 29 2008, 06:57 AM
truthfully im rooting for vaan. you see vaans been holdin out on us. hes stronger than he seems but he dosent like to fight thats all. when it comes down to it hes no pushover......
2~8~4
Apr 2 2008, 11:23 AM
QUOTE (_Pesmerga_ @ Mar 28 2008, 01:58 PM)

Why do you always have to involve abilities?
Yes, Skills Matters...
Ken Masters
Apr 2 2008, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (2~8~4 @ Apr 2 2008, 11:23 AM)

QUOTE (_Pesmerga_ @ Mar 28 2008, 01:58 PM)

Why do you always have to involve abilities?
Yes, Skills Matters...
Though Pesmerga does bring up a good point, some of Zidane's Trance attacks do an insane amount of damage. Though the same thing with Vaan when he does his Quickening, and you bring into play the how many times you're able to chain each attack.
2~8~4
Apr 4 2008, 02:57 PM
True, this poll is not about favorite. It about who have the skills to win the fight against each other.
king of sin
Apr 5 2008, 10:42 AM
yeah but still favorites play a big role in this stuff. im still well aware the gap in power between zidane and vann but as gamers, have we not overcome enemies much stronger than us? ask yourself this and reconsider your vote.
2~8~4
Apr 9 2008, 12:55 PM
I don't have much infromation on Zidane to really put my two cent on it. So I'm asking the people who have more knowlages than me.
If my spelling is wrong, please forgive me...
Sadistic Angel
Apr 9 2008, 03:31 PM
Well...Zidane is the main star in my Kuja yaoi.
He wins.
Seriously though, I have no idea. I still haven't played FFXII. I may never play it. I
2~8~4
Apr 14 2008, 11:24 AM
QUOTE (Sadistic Angel @ Apr 9 2008, 04:31 PM)

Well...Zidane is the main star in my Kuja yaoi.
To tell you the truth... Zidane maybe the lest yaoi than all the other heros. Tidus Vaan Could Sora Squall all is victim of Yaoi gallery...
Sorry Tidus...
DragonsVenom
Apr 16 2008, 10:25 AM
I have to say that Zidane is a better fighter, but only because he has set abilities.
Vaan is nothing without the license grid, and even then, there comes in question if he has access to anything he is licensed to use.
He could be lvl 99, but still have the Mithril sword and his only ability being steal...
Zidane actually has attacks and abilities that make him a unique fighter in that he has the default ability to choose dual daggers or double sided swords, while also being a very quick, powerful, physical attacker.
Vaan has the ability to be all of these things, equip any weapon, use any spell, and on top of that, have an unblockable/avoidable final move that chains attacks together to the point the opposer can't retaliate.
Vaan can't be compared to Zidane in ability, because he has no base abilities at all. If we bring in the fact that with enough time, Vaan can be a powerhouse, then we can bring in Zidane having thievery and a higher agility stat. The battle would come down to who attacked first, and to do that, we need to somehow synchronize two different battle modes too?
I'm sorry, but these two characters, or any character from FFXII, can't be compared to the rest of the series. The battle and development systems are just too different.
In pure character sense, I think Zidane is better. It seems that everyone agrees that FFXII has a weak storyline, which only makes the characterization weak as well. At least Zidane had his own story, however cliche it may be.
Bkoz
Apr 16 2008, 05:14 PM
Zidane would annihilate Vann. He would not even need to be put in to trance. His skill is far too superior.
I think anyone compared to a character from Final Fantasy XII would win unless it were against Basche, Ashe, or Balthier possibly.
crimson fate
Apr 24 2008, 02:16 PM
Not Vaan nor Zidan, but if there was Cid(from FFX) he would be my poll vote
2~8~4
Apr 27 2008, 02:54 PM
I wish I could close this but the winner is
ZIDANE from ff9
Maybe next time Vaan.....
marushio
Jul 22 2008, 05:29 PM
Well, I voted for Zidane.
Carisma is a very important RPG atribute, and Vaan got none!
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