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The Evil Dead
I read this over at another forum I post at and found it sad, yet somewhat hilarious at the same time. While no kid deserves their ass beat for anything they like or believe in, it's just ironic I guess considering everything.


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Anti-Emo Riots Break Out Across MexicoBy Alexis Madrigal March 27, 2008 | 5:42:52 PM

Riot police have taken to the streets of several cities in Mexico to ... defend emo kids?

A series of attacks on dyed-hair, eye-makeup-wearing emo kids began in early March when several hundred people went on an emo-beating rampage in Querétaro, a town of 1.5 million about 160 miles north of Mexico City.

The next week, shaggy-haired emo teenagers were harassed again by punks and rockabillys in the capital, prompting police protection and a segment on the TV news. Most recently, a Mexican newspaper reported that metal heads and gangsters have warned Tijuana's emo kids to stay away from the town's fair next month.

But the so-called emos are organizing, too. Last week, they demonstrated against the violence, pictured above, and Wednesday some met with police in Mexico City.

"They're organizing to defend their right to be emo," wrote Daniel Hernandez of LA Weekly on his personal blog, which has provided stellar coverage of the whole affair.

Music-based subcultures have permeated Mexico's major cities for decades, fueled by constant migration from rural cities. But only in the past year have emos begun to make their presence felt in the streets. In response, many of the established so-called tribus urbanas like punks and metalheads are responding with violence. The emo-punk battles are reminiscent of earlier subculture fights among various factions, like the Hell's Angels fighting hippies at the Altamont Music Festival or the Mods taking on the Rockers.

But while videos of Mexican teenagers with pompadours advancing on equally baby-faced emo rockers seem like scenes from a south-of-the-border version of John Waters' Crybaby, there are ugly undercurrents to the story.

First, by some accounts, the emo subculture is identified with homosexuality in Mexico. As Mexico City youth worker Victor Mendoza told Time.com: "At the core of this is the homophobic issue. The other arguments are just window dressing for that."

Gustavo Arellano, the author of Ask a Mexican and an editor at OC Weekly, said that the sexual ambiguities cultivated by emo fashion helped set the group up for targeting by more macho groups.

"What do you do when you are confronted with a question mark about sexuality in Mexico?" Arellano said. "You beat it up."

Forum posts show similar sentiments. One person wrote on a government youth-website forum, "detesto a los emosexuales," which translates as "I hate emosexuals." Emosexual is an obvious play on homosexual, especially in Spanish, where the H is silent.

Many of the attacks have been planned, or at least fomented, on violently anti-emo websites like Movimiento Anti Emosexual, which features videos of physical violence sprinkled liberally with anti-gay sentiment. Last.fm's Anti Emo Death Squad group has almost 4,000 members.

But Arellano said he thought the riots could have a positive impact here in the US.

"It's a great clusterfuck for the American mind's idea of Mexico," Arellano said. "This teaches the rest of the world that Mexico is not just a bunch of cactuses and sombreros."
Noir
They should cut themselves. mhm.
Ken Masters
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I hate popular sub-cultures, but this takes the cake. Well, I finished my rant on this.
Death
When's/Where's the Emo bashing? I want to attend this fair. I want to go and wear my Slayer shirt. Maybe bring a bat with some nails in it.

Edit: Note that I do not hate emo's because there are homosexual emos. I know that there are not homosexual emo's. I could care less about that. I'm more on the "quit your bitching, and become a contributing member of society".

Yes. Metal head I do see as contributing members due to the fact they have made many great songs. Metal heads are not to be confused with White supremacists.

Metal head:

White supremacist:

The latter is ignorant. Or so I believe.
Vilagen
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"They're organizing to defend their right to be emo,"


That...that made me laugh...
KCshushu
Ewww I don't like emo's....I've been in MANY fights with emo's simply because they all like to hang out in the town square and try to make me look like a dumb ass even if I just WALK past them. I have punk and goth friends, but that is all together completely different, punks/metal heads/goths are tolerable...emo's aren't dry.gif . There are SOME emo's that I can barely tolerate, all the rest of them should wallow in their OWN misery and stop telling their 252454 1337 'friends' on social networking sites (name any one) about cutting and how depressed they are...Ungrateful bastards. dry.gif
Denim
QUOTE (KCshushu @ Mar 30 2008, 07:10 AM) *
Ewww I don't like emo's....I've been in MANY fights with emo's simply because they all like to hang out in the town square and try to make me look like a dumb ass even if I just WALK past them. I have punk and goth friends, but that is all together completely different, punks/metal heads/goths are tolerable...emo's aren't dry.gif . There are SOME emo's that I can barely tolerate, all the rest of them should wallow in their OWN misery and stop telling their 252454 1337 'friends' on social networking sites (name any one) about cutting and how depressed they are...Ungrateful bastards. dry.gif


Har, punks and goths can be just as bad as any emo kid.
JD-san
You'd think a bunch of kids packing razor blades could defend themselves a little better. In any case, sad story. The whole emo thing is pretty lame, but physically attacking them for it is pretty ignorant.
Theferrell
I think that's quite lame that those kids just went out and beat up other emo kids. That's about as bad of an image as a father beating up a little kid at a pee-wee hockey game. <<< link

I'm not emo, nor would ever become emo. I knew a few kids like that.... but Emos sprang up after my time in High School. Not too many of those types at my college. Those types of kids hang out at the mall (because it's the only "cool" place in Provo Utah) and go to Hot Topic. I swear that's the only reason why they stay in business here in Utah.

But here's a tip folks. Leave people alone and they won't freakin beat you up. And if they still beat you up, just get the NAACP to help you sue the crap out of them. (That seems to work in the States smile.gif )
Razael
Something really ##### up is gonna come from this. Like all of the sudden, they are gonna stop fighting and make out and start the single most disgusting orgy since roman times.
KCshushu
QUOTE (Denim @ Mar 31 2008, 04:27 PM) *
Har, punks and goths can be just as bad as any emo kid.


Nah punks have good taste in music and don't ALL shop in one place, and Goths are just misunderstood and are discriminated against for looking the way they do (hah! What clique doesn't get discriminated against?)

In my opinions emo's are just sad pathetic, ungrateful, inbreeds who think it's "cool" to be "different" even though they all look and act the same laugh.gif hahaha

However violence isn't the answer to everything.

Also, one thing I found funny about the article is that is says homosexuality is associated with emo...I don't see how that's possible if most of them are still in the closet laugh.gif
Death
QUOTE (Razael @ Mar 30 2008, 09:37 PM) *
Something really ##### up is gonna come from this. Like all of the sudden, they are gonna stop fighting and make out and start the single most disgusting orgy since roman times.


Sadly, this is the only outcome... sad.gif
Razael
QUOTE (Death @ Mar 31 2008, 06:11 PM) *
QUOTE (Razael @ Mar 30 2008, 09:37 PM) *
Something really ##### up is gonna come from this. Like all of the sudden, they are gonna stop fighting and make out and start the single most disgusting orgy since roman times.


Sadly, this is the only outcome... sad.gif


There really is no other way.
Bomb
Meh, they both wear a bunch of black and both talk about how depressing their situation is, so I sometimes have a rough time separating metalheads and emo kids.
The Evil Dead
What a load of #####.
Theferrell
How poetic of you TED, could you elaborate on that very concise and direct post???
Natsuki
"Rockabillys"

LOL

That is an awesome term! xD

Anyways, can I ask, don't people randomly get beat up anyways? - aside from being Emo? I'm mean here we have the whole Chav thing going on where they just think they're all "hard" and beat people up for no reason (a girl even died the other day for being Goth - or at least dressing like one).

It's all high school stuff, Emo's embrace that they're different and we all know that if you're somewhat considered different in high school, you get beat up. It's pathetic like that and emo's should really stick up for themselves, heck that's what all those movies out there tell you to do.

The only thing I don't like about emo's is the skinny jeans fashion statement. Skinny jeans aren't for everyone and shouldn't be the only style you can get in the shops! >_>
The Evil Dead
QUOTE (Theferrell @ Apr 3 2008, 06:35 PM) *
How poetic of you TED, could you elaborate on that very concise and direct post???


No. Use that wit of yours and read between the lines. tongue.gif
brakeonthroo
Both subcultures of emo and Metal heads do not contribute to society. You can honestly say that Emo songs aren't good music becase you dont liek it. Well I hate Metal and I think there songs suck and banging your head for hours does nothing for society either. Eat it Death

Matt
Noir
lol Nice username, great song.

But I think the average Emo person probably contributes to society less than the average metalhead. I mean I can see a metalhead going out and working, all I ever see Emo people do is complain and hardcore dance.
The Evil Dead
QUOTE (brakeonthroo @ Apr 4 2008, 02:40 PM) *
Both subcultures of emo and Metal heads do not contribute to society.


Another load of #####. I work full time, I pay taxes, I donate to charities and as much as I dislike most members of society I still believe in the preservation of the well being of my fellow man . So kindly piss off with such ignorant remarks. No doubt the same goes for many adult emo fans.

Yeah banging your head for hours. That's all we metal heads do.
Mushroom
Think I could pay those crazy Maxicans to pull the same thing over here in Glasgow? There's nothing wrong with being different, but there's everything wrong with being emo. I mean, first of all, i know plenty of hot girls who make themselves look offensively ugly in the name of emodom, which is a travesty on its own, but thats just the fashion side of it. whiny little bitches the lot of them. At least when I was at school, being different generally meant you liked blink 182 and you wore baggy shorts, but the whole emo thing is retarded. We were at least happy. Anyway, yea, meh, hope the mexicans kill them all, or they kill themselves as a result of all this.
Death
QUOTE (brakeonthroo @ Apr 4 2008, 12:40 PM) *
Both subcultures of emo and Metal heads do not contribute to society. You can honestly say that Emo songs aren't good music becase you dont liek it. Well I hate Metal and I think there songs suck and banging your head for hours does nothing for society either. Eat it Death

Matt


And you mindlessly assume that all who listen to metal bang their heads. I could care less if you don't like Metal. If you want to try and prove a invalid point, learn the difference between There and Their. Two very different words. You say I don't contribute to society? I donate my hair to cancer patients. If you tell me that is wrong, then you sir, have no morals. I have what we call a job. I don't bitch about life, instead I push myself to make it better. I'm not one to have things handed to me.

Please, stop cutting yourself and read a book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w

You may not be into rap, I know I'm not, but this song has a good message.

EDIT: 5 bucks says this Matt never comes back after posting yesterday.
Razael
AHAHAHAHAHH I dont give ##### to charities!

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