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I’ve never gone on an airplane before (nor do I expect I’ll ever, haha), but this might mean something to some of you who do...



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By MARTHA C. WHITE
Published: April 22, 2008

Five of the six major airlines in the United States plan to start charging coach passengers as much as $25 next month to check a second bag, the latest move in their quest to offset high fuel prices.

But while the airlines, and even some industry specialists, say they expect the fees will primarily affect leisure travelers, business travelers beg to differ.

“For people traveling with samples or trade show materials, they’re going to find their costs are substantially higher,” an airline industry analyst, Robert Mann, said. “It’s really not limited to leisure travelers.”

Pete Mitchell, director of business-to-business sales for the luggage manufacturer Samsonite, said he often traveled with one-of-a-kind items he is reluctant to send via a shipping service. “We’ll bring them prototypes and production samples,” Mr. Mitchell said. “Sometimes we’ll bring things that are handmade. These are things that we can’t just send out another one if we lose it.”

Because many of the samples are quite sizable, Mr. Mitchell said it is not feasible to try to carry them in his own luggage. “I just don’t have any other choice. You’ve got to be able to let the client touch it. I have to bring them with me even if it costs $25.”

Jerry Bower, an entrepreneur who recently started a company, Wine Galaxy, that offers wine-of-the-month memberships for corporations to give to employees or clients, said he, too, often travels with more than one bag. “I have to travel quite a bit in order to build relationships,” he said. “I do carry a lot of different literature and presentation pieces, and sometimes wine samples.”

The new fee of $25 for a second bag is being levied by Continental, Delta, Northwest, United and US Airways. The low-fare carrier AirTran has announced that it will charge $10 for a second checked bag. Airlines have long levied fees for checking a third bag. Some carriers have recently increased those as well, and the fees on the major carriers now run as high as $100.

As the airlines struggle to stay in the black, charges for amenities formerly included in the ticket price are on the rise. Depending on the carrier, travelers now can wind up paying extra for everything from food to curbside check-in to bulkhead seats that offer extra legroom.

As for the extra-bag fee, even those who say they pack lightly for their trips foresee problems caused by price-sensitive fliers overfilling their carry-on bags and using large amounts of scarce overhead-bin space.

“The thing that scares me about this is that it’s just going to encourage people to lug more stuff onto the plane,” Mr. Mitchell said. “For those of us that have only one bag, if I don’t board early, there’s no place for my bag.”

Professionals in the travel industry who cater to business travelers say they are seeking ways to reduce the financial and logistical inconveniences.

Paul Lang, manager of travel services at Bayer North America, said the company’s corporate travel policy reimburses employees for laundry services. So even those on extended trips do not have to pack a lot of clothes.

Sue Fern, president of the conference-planning business Event Pro-SSSS, is urging the associations whose conferences she manages to switch from bulky handouts to CDs or small flash drives. Because association members generally have to pay their own way to and from these events, this will keep them from being saddled with an extra baggage fee on their return trips, she said.

“We’re seeing a bigger trend toward electronic transfer of information,” said Paul Kiewiet, management consultant and immediate past chairman of the Promotional Products Association International. “At P.P.A.I.’s expo in Las Vegas, we had several days of education and we went totally paperless.”

Mr. Kiewiet said he also expected that people who give business gifts, awards or knickknacks with logos would turn to pocket- or purse-size items. “From a promotional products standpoint, I think we’re seeing a resurgence in the smaller items such as writing instruments, journals or business card holders,” he said.

Dana Slockbower, director of marketing for Rymax Marketing Services Inc., a company that manages corporate gift and reward programs, said her clients had been asking for physically smaller gifts so travelers would not have to pay extra to send them home. “We’re definitely seeing requests for smaller gifts like iPods or watches,” she said.

Some business travelers say they would express their displeasure with the new regulation by opting for carriers that do not charge a separate fee for checking a second bag. They concede, however, that this may become impossible as more airlines, reeling from the escalating cost of fuel, might look toward imposing similar fees in the future.

“I will switch to another carrier that doesn’t charge the fee,” Mr. Bower of Wine Galaxy said. He conceded, though, that this might become more difficult as more airlines follow suit.

He recently booked a business trip with AirTran to avoid paying the extra baggage charge. On April 11, however, AirTran announced that it, too, would start charging passengers to check a second bag. Although Mr. Bower’s trip is scheduled for a few days before the start of the new fee, he says next time he may just have to carry on two bags.

“I’ll check one, and carry on a duffel bag plus my laptop. Unfortunately, they’re forcing people to do that.”



Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/22/business...nyt&emc=rss
Razael
##### them, that, and the fear of crashing, was the main thing of me not using low fare airlines. Its better to pay those ####### 10 bucks than these ####### more than 500 for the ticket and then for my bags? Whores.
Voyou San
another way for the man to ##### us!! its bad enough ive got to spend 2 hours in the airport just to get on the damn plane, not even to mention the ridiculous amount i have to pay for the ticket, now you want me to pay for luggage? ....
Vilagen
Well that sucks, I tend to travel with at least 3 bags when I board a plane, so that is going to cost me quite a bit. Then again, I am flying with Southwest, and I did not see them on the list, so perhaps I am okay for now.

But then again, I'm flying with Southwest...
Pesmerga
Hurrah airlines.
Usually always late, ridiculous rules and now paying extra for my luggage?
Haha, wankers.

I still laugh about the current rules in Europe, such as not bringing deodorant and tweezers, as they are weapons, or make up for that matter.

Yeah, this indicates that the higher people in the airline management have nothing to do, so they want to add another fancy rule to annoy their customers.

I used to fly a lot, when I needed to travel to my gf, but as of late, I hardly fly. I think when this rule is actually applied in Europe, I will stop flying at all.
Besides, if my luggage weighs 12 kilos and my handluggage weighs 3 and I am allowed a total weight of luggage of 20 kilos, I do not see the point in paying extra.
Voyou San
QUOTE (Pesmerga @ Apr 22 2008, 07:24 PM) *
I still laugh about the current rules in Europe, such as not bringing deodorant and tweezers, as they are weapons, or make up for that matter.


yall cant take deodorant?
Markies
If I actually traveled in an Airplane, this would affect me more. But, as it stands, I have a terrible fear of flying. I do travel, but I only go to places that I can drive. For example, I am probably visiting my friend in Indianapolis over Memorial Day, but I will probably just drive as it is only a 4 hour drive.

I usually defend the airlines because of the safety issue, but this sounds like an easy way to make money. It's silly and I feel bad for people who do have to travel. One of my friends lives out in San Francisco and it is a terrible pain for him to come back home. I helped him a bit and how much he has to pay to ship things and the little space he has to carry with him is insane.
Pesmerga
QUOTE (Voyou San @ Apr 23 2008, 02:06 PM) *
QUOTE (Pesmerga @ Apr 22 2008, 07:24 PM) *
I still laugh about the current rules in Europe, such as not bringing deodorant and tweezers, as they are weapons, or make up for that matter.


yall cant take deodorant?


No liquids, apart from baby food and it has to be tested on the spot, no toiletries, this includes toothpicks, nail clippers, tweezers and deodorant. Well, it includes everything, even lipstick x'D.

An Irish comedian, Ed Byrne, made a sketch about it, it is well funny.

Click her for funny
Voyou San
QUOTE (Pesmerga @ Apr 23 2008, 05:45 PM) *
QUOTE (Voyou San @ Apr 23 2008, 02:06 PM) *
QUOTE (Pesmerga @ Apr 22 2008, 07:24 PM) *
I still laugh about the current rules in Europe, such as not bringing deodorant and tweezers, as they are weapons, or make up for that matter.


yall cant take deodorant?


No liquids, apart from baby food and it has to be tested on the spot, no toiletries, this includes toothpicks, nail clippers, tweezers and deodorant. Well, it includes everything, even lipstick x'D.

An Irish comedian, Ed Byrne, made a sketch about it, it is well funny.

Click her for funny


we cant take liquids if it is more than a certain size.
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