I know I know, someone ask the question before. But well, tables will turn and things might change =p

So yeah

I'll just like to ask if it was you, which console would you prefer more?

xBox 360 or Playstation 3

Why did you choose the console?

It is okay if you are neutral to both consoles. But I would really like to hear your comments and views on the two of them though. Please don't flame each other by the way ^^

This is my personal opinion, currently though, that Playstation 3 is still pretty new in the gaming industry and thus the games library is still pretty small. But it definitely have the potential to shine(not outshine) in the market like an "unpolished gem"

Where as, xBox 360 is in the market longer and the game library is larger then Playstation 3. It has been doing well and it is possible for xBox to stay in the market for another period of time.

Trying not to be too biased against either console though. But I do want to hear what all of you think?

I would hope to hear more details from all of you =) For example user friendliness and costs. Etc etc.

So yeah, What do you think? =p

PLEASE TRY NOT TO FLAME or Being OVERLY BIASED lol.

playstation 3 across the board.

Mind saying why? xD

well really to me the graphics are about equal but i had to choose one so i chose the system i own.

games, well i love the games out for my ps3 now.. especially exclusives like Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted and MLB 08 The Show. Plus with the games coming out this year and on into next year, this is the system of choice for great games, always has been for me.

overall, with the games, the blu ray player and all the other added bonuses, plus free online, PS3 is the system for the future.. it is the ultimate machine .

PS3 all the way. Superior graphics, however slightly it may be, the games are great, and it looks like a George Foreman grill. I'm not allowed to vote in polls right now, but I will whenever Eva remembers to remove my Probation thing.

GRAPHICS: I think both are similar in terms of graphical capability. Still the game that I think had the most impressive graphics thus far has been Gears of War. It just has this CG look to it with slight blurring that really makes it shine. Uncharted has some pretty nice graphics too, but it just doesn't look as nice as Gears (that doesn't mean that it looks bad). Perhaps Killzone 2 will trump it, but it's hard to tell from the clips posted online. It really could go either way. What I have noticed also is that most PS3 games seem a bit pale in comparison to the 360 versions (not always, but it seems to be the case a lot of the time). I always download demos for both, and the 360 always has deeper blacks and better colors.

GAMES: 360 by far. I have put in a ton of hours on the system. I think the PS3 is finally getting some games, but it still doesn't compare. For PS3 I'm looking forward to MGS4, Valkyria Chronicles , and maybe Little Big Planet this year. On 360 I want the 2 Atlus RPGs coming out (Spectral Force 3 and Operation Darkness), Fable 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, and Gears of War 2. I also tend to get Multiplatform games on 360 since I know like 20 IRL people that have/play on it and only 1 IRL person that has a PS3 (and he just uses it as a Blu-Ray movie player). That and I like unlocking Achievements

OVERALL: Have to go with 360 since I like playing games and my first "must have PS3 title" isn't out yet. I do have some decent games on it, but I've already finished them or I didn't like them (I'm looking at you WarHawk). The one thing that I love about the PS3 is how quite it is. It does make a small amount of noise (very small mind you), but it's no where near as loud as the 360. Oh and the fact that I can play my PS2 games upscaled on it (even those that my PS2 refuses to read now).

My Wii is basically a dust collector. I'll get Mario Kart soon, but it has been getting a warm reception at best.

I don't own either, so I'm in the debate of which to buy next, so I've considered both systems ups and downs.

I say PS3 is better graphics from what I've seen, especially since some of its capabilities are still being tested (FF13 in game battles anyone?)

Gamewise, XBox360 takes the cake. There's just an OVERWHELMINGLY large amount of excellent and popular games for it. And even tho u have to pay for LIVE (50 bucks a year is it?) thats NOTHING for the amount of gamers online for the excellent games (Gears of War, Halo, GTA4 [Which will have downloadable episodes]). Not to mention HL: Orange Box, Crysis, Call of Duty 4.

And even tho some of these games are for both systems, the 360 is cheaper, so a cost-minded person would prefer the 360. I mean, PS3's best selling game to date is Motorstorm.... I find that kinda, i dunno, weird.

I'll probably end up BUYING the PS3 first because of Blu-Ray and PSP connectivity, not to mention PS3 Home, the potential for better graphics and games, as well as the guarantee that Final Fantasy will be on it (and possibly other big name future RPGs like Suikoden, Wild Arms, etc), so overall by the time all of this comes together it will be at a more affordable price.

But as of RIGHT NOW. I voted 360. Future? Who knows.

Guess what I voted for.

umm.. PS3??

Well for graphics I voted for the PS3 even if it is by a very small margin.
For games I voted the 360(for now) because there just isn't enough exclusives on the PS3 or due out this year that appeal to me apart from Haze. On the 360 there's already more exclusives that I enjoy more as well as more to come later this year like Tales Of Vesperia for example and personally there's nothing on the PS3 this year that can match that.
For overall I picked the PS3 because as an entertainment machine it's far and away more superior to the 360, there's remote play, damn good Blu Ray playback which is easily keeping up with the competition via updates, the full PS1 and PS2 back catalogue - and yes I know this doesn't apply to all versions of the PS3 but it does to mine and this is about personal opinion after all, DVD upscaling, free online play, the ability to install and operating system like Linux and last but not least reliability. As of late I am finding myself buying multi platform games on the PS3 just out of paranoia that my 360 will one day choke - touch wood I have had it since 2006 without a problem but the failure rate speaks for itself.

ouch.. no exclusives to match that or appeal to you? LBP, MGS4, Disgaea 3, Valkyria Chronicles, HAZE, Resistance 2, Killzone 2(early next year), FFXIII and versus XIII hopefully next year.. none of those sound good to you?

It's going to begin... Again...

no it wont, i was not flaming him, i was just suprised none of those besides haze caught his eye.. thats all..

OMG SPOLERS ALURT!

You know, college has caused me not to be into this generation too much at the moment. Ironically, or maybe not if you know me, I have been into my Wii more than anything else at the moment. This summer I guess I will be giving my 360 some love if I can actually find a job down here.

Despite that, out of the two systems I consider the 360 to be this generations PS2 at the moment. Superior library of games, and really, from what I have seen from both systems, it is not like the PS3's graphics are largely better than the 360's. The thing about the 360 is that it makes a good computer console, meaning that if you do not have the most kickass state of the art PC or Mac computer, than the 360 is a good substitute. They usually get the big titles that PC gets, and their ports are well done. Of course, the flip side is that if you have a PC then that last statement is pointless. Of course, the 360 is getting the same line of games that the PS3 is getting as well, like Devil May Cry 4 and GTA 4, so other than the big exclusives that the PS3 will be getting, right now you are not going to be missing much.

Of course there is Live, which sounds great if I did not have to buy the wireless adapter piece for $100. That is not what bothers me though, it is the fact that you have to pay money for services that should be free. I mean, if you bought Team Fortress 2 on the PC, as long as you have the ability to go online you do not have to pay a cent to play against one another, but on Live they want you to pay for their services, which is just stupid. I know that $50 year is not expensive, but it is the whole principle of the matter that makes me angry.

Another issue about the 360 to be worried about is the Red Ring of Death, RRD as they say, which has been happening to all of the systems. If it was not for that, I would say jump right ahead and buy it. In fact, even if you do get the RRD, you are given a free repair the first time, but I have no idea if they will cover it a second or third time. Despite that, the Elite has tons of memory and, if I read my friend's box correctly, it finally has Wifi built into it. (I am kind of sad I bought my 360 when I did since the Elite was announced less then a month afterwards...) Plus, it has a good library right now.

The PS3. Well, I guess it will eventually become the main system of this generation, but so far around the States Microsoft has done a good job stealing its thunder for that title. It is hard to judge the system since it just came out a year ago, and usually it takes about that long before a system starts really pumping anything great. It will get Metal Gear Solid and the next Final Fantasy game, though more and more FF fans are becoming weary of the series, but there is no denying Metal Gear Solid's splendor. Little Big Planet looks great as well, and there is a chance that RPG companies will still stick with Sony and not give Microsoft a thing, but that is hard to say since many companies have still not announced their next big sequels on any new platform. (Wild Arms, Suikoden, Shin Megami Tensei series). What is ironic is that the PS2 is still getting some love. Just recently Persona 3 FES came out and the next Persona game is apparently coming to the PS2. Not to mention that it got Baroque as well. That is what I find ironic about the PS3. For RPG fans like me, its main competitor is not the 360 but its older brother at the moment. Oh, and the DS. Also, I do think that if Star Ocean 4 goes to the 360 in any way, then other game series will probably follow.

The PS3 still has a lot going for it though. Great hardware and their format is superior. Blu-Ray is nothing short of being great. Their online play is good enough as well, and oh yeah, it's free. Plus, the system works, in fact what is surprising is the earlier 60 gig models were probably the best ones to buy, which is not only surprising in generally, but even more so since it is Sony we are talking about. It also has a lot of potential.

I realize my post is pretty damn long, oh well. I guess the problem is that it is hard for me to rate a system right now. If it was not for the mechanical issues that the 360 has, i would say go for that. Right now, though, the PS3 has proved to be more reliable, and since it has a good chance of getting some nice RPGs, and main stream 3rd party games, it looks like a win-win there. On the other hand, the 360 has more for it right now, and probably a better party system than its rival, but I have a hard time determining its future.

Hahaha!! I did say apart from Haze, for now and this year. I'm going to sound like a right mug and ask what's LBP? This is only from a personal perspective, so remember that I'm not slating the games you mentioned I know they're quality titles it's just down to what's appealing to me personally and what isn't plus I can be pretty difficult to please if it isn't an RPG or an adventure game.

I'm not really a MGS fan I have REALLY tried to get into MGS3 quite recently and it just isn't doing it for me there's just too much interruption and blabbling for my liking which is weird for me since I love plot heavy rpgs. I love the depth of Disgaea but the humour totally kills it for me and irritates the hell out of me - I can be a humourless sod sometimes. Valkyria Chronicles looks stunning and I'm all for new IP's but judging by the footage it's going to have to be a try before I buy. I only liked Resistance FOM after about the halfway mark when the intensity picked up a bit, the sequel though just doesn't excite me at all but maybe that's because I played too many FPS's last year and I'm giving them a rest for now and Killzone 2 looks good but again it's an FPS and after the first one I'll wait for the reviews. All that said yeah once the FF titles come out and Star Ocean 4 (hopefully more RPGs and new IPs) then we're talking whole different ball game and it's very likely my opinion will change.

LBP is Little Big Planet. Looks like nonsense to me.

Oh aye that thing. That's not really my sort of thing either it's probably something that may appeal more to my girl though so I won't rule out my wallet getting emptied at some point on it. Oh I forgot to say if Tekken 6 gets released this year on the PS3 then that'll be a big must buy for me since I'm huge fan of the series.

Yeah I've never played metal gear solid before, dunno what LBP is, never got into Disgaea, still havent played Resistance 1 OR Killzone because i don't own a PS3 yet.

Haze, and the FF series will be good. But that's what i mean that 360 wins now, and im pretty sure Cloudy Cat said that too:



And i have to agree with him. PS3 just doesn't match up right now with the 360, but I DO think that in the future PS3 will completely eclipse the 360 once it gets some momentum.

What I don't understand is that everyone thinks that the 360 doesn't have any RPGs and that only the PS3 will have them. There are quite a few more RPGs (JRPGS and CRPGS) on the 360 currently and there are quite a few that have been announced to come. I'm pretty sure some of those unannounced PS3 JRPGs will go Multipltaform since many of those companies are 3rd party and not Sony owned. Hell Atlus has jumped on the 360 JRPG bandwagon and has decided to translate quite a few of them (3 Strategy JRPGs) for this year alone. And there is a Final Fantasy on the 360, but it just happens to be the one that sucks the most .

Yeah, Which is why I mentioned that, PS3 is like an unpolished Gem xD

It has potential. But 360 has a vast library of good games already.

So its sort of like a battle of "Already Strong" and " Has a potential to be stronger but still weak".

that and

TEDDY, What did you choose and why? xD

I really want to hear some detailed reasons though xD

But thanks everyone for your replies =p

guess it just must be my preference but the other day i looked over the 360 wall at gamestop and i must be missing all these great titles people keep talking about.. besides Gears of War (great game) and 2 rpg's i want to try (names have escaped me) i dont see anything that makes me wet my pants with excitement..

and yea cloudy i was not attacking you, i just see so many games out this year for the ps3 that i feel are easily going to trump the so called "big hittas" for the 360..

No it's all right man I know you weren't flaming. It's just all a matter of taste I suppose. I mean most of the games I'm looking forward to(on both consoles) are either multi, coming out next year, delayed or already released. Also being a massive Tales fan, Tales Of Vesperia for the 360 definitely appeals to me more than all the other titles on any console this year.

Saying that the 360 big hitters don't exactly spark my excitement either I weren't fussed on Gears and I'm not a Ninja Gaiden fan, though I am interested in Too Human, and Splinter Cell if it even gets released this year. The other reason I rated the 360 higher than the PS3 for games(for now) is down to titles like Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Dead Rising, Mass Effect and Blue Dragon which are some of my personal favourites out this gen. Either way I'm happy with both consoles and consider myself pretty damn lucky to have the best of both worlds, although the handhelds are getting more game time from me in recent weeks.

*cough* the last two posts talking about what the "big hits of 360 are" and I havent seen mention of Halo 3. That's a huge part of 360's success *cough*

was that a big hit? sorry must have missed that one..i did however play a halo 1.3

HIYOOOOO.

Yeah it may as well be Halo 1, version 3. Nothing like playing on the same game engine for 7 years.

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The PS3, it looks like. I didn't know which one I would have picked before I started this, but now I can make that decision, lol. Read the rest of this to see why. =p

Currently, my 360 library is much bigger than my PS3 library. But that's because all the multi-platform games I have are on the 360. Looking only at exclusives, I already have more on the PS3 (and thats 3 whole games). Looking at exclusives that will be coming out, and it looks like I'll be getting more of them on the PS3 than the ones for the 360.

However, if you were to count arcade games (which for some reason are huge to me), the 360 currently wins, by far. I love the arcade games, but I've noticed that more and more of these games are being released on both the 360 and the PS3. So eventually, the PS3 will be on equal playing ground there as well. Top that off with games that are being released as downloads and on discs (warhawk, Gran Turismo 5 prologue, Siren: blood curse), and I think PSN could end up being very tough competition with XBLA.


I have no idea about this one. They both have pretty stellar graphics. The last game to completely blow me away graphically was Metal Gear Solid 4. Before that was Call of Duty 4. Bioshock's water effects were amazing too, sometimes I'd just find myself staring at the water, lol. I think the PS3 may win here, because of the upscaling of PS2 games, and the Blu-ray player. I understand the Blu-ray player is for movies, but they look amazing to me, and the 360 (currently) doesn't have that.

I'm not entirely sure about this one. The PS3 games I've played haven't really made a huge use of sound (other than PixelJunk Eden). Granted, Metal Gear Solid 4 had an amazing soundtrack. But for the 360, I've always been able to use my own music, which is really nice, especially during a fighting game. Normally, I just alter the music during a fighting game or an FPS (multiplayer matches only), but not for any other genre. I didn't realize how important that was to me, until just now, lol. Though, the PS3 should have the same abilities now that there is an in-game XMB. Maybe someone can correct me on that.

At this point, it again goes to the PS3. I've spent a lot of money on my 360, and now it's the PS3's turn. The PS3 is getting a bunch of exclusives that I'm excited about. Granted, the 360 is probably where I'll pick up multiplatform titles, that could vary depending on the exclusives each console gets. For example, Soul Calibur 4 is multi-platform, but I'm getting it on the PS3.

Hope that's helpful.

Graphic wise-- Ps3 Blu ray can hold a helluva lot more, allowing them to squeeze in more details. For the visual junkies this is the selling point.

Game Wise- There are more must haves for me on the 360 than there is on the PS3. MGS4 is my only must have for PS3, even tho I never ever played MGS ever.

Overall-- I'm a 360 user and abuser. I enjoy my time with it and it has done me well. I enjoy xbox live alot and that consumes 90% of my gaming time.

Overall:

I prefer the PS3. I suppose this is partly bias on my part, since the closest I've come into contact with a 360 (or any xBox for that matter) is when I played Halo for a little bit at my cousin's cousin's house years ago. I'm just used to the way Sony's consoles work, the general selection of games (though that's beginning to change a bit now), and just the reliability of the system itself. What with all the reports of xBox system failures (I know, it doesn't happen with everyone, and mistakes with consoles do happen) make me question whether I'd want to go through the bother of getting one and then have it crash on me or something. I dunno. I'm not being entirely fair with this sentiment, since I haven't given xBox much of a chance, but from my experience with the PSX and PS2, I'd go with the PS3 just because I'm more familiar with the system, and thus trust it more.

Game-wise:

PS3. The majority of games on the xBox360 are usually M rated. Means that I can't play them at this point, and considering the content, I might not in the long run.

While I can't say the PS3 is the rpg machine, it's still got a few games coming out to it that I'll want (or already are out, since I can't remember all that *will be* coming out...).

1. Ratchet and Clank
2. Resistance: Fall of Man (1 and 2, plus any additional installments down the road)
3. Valkyrie Chronicles (this is coming to North America, isn't it? >.>.)
4. Disgaea 3 (never played one before, but I plan on picking the prior installments up soon.)
5. Tales of if it gets announced.

For xBox360, it'd be:

1. Star Ocean IV
2. Tales of Vesperia
3. Last Remnant

I'm missing some games for both consoles (doing this off the top of my head), but even at this, the PS3 has more appeal to me. Though I still think I'll end up with a Microsoft console down the road (Tales of Vesperia love, plus Star Ocean IV would be an added bonus).

Graphic-wise:

I don't really know. From screenshots I've seen for games on both systems, they're both pretty superb.

Sound-wise:

Never played either console, so I don't honestly know. For me it'd depend more on the game itself, so if it has a good soundtrack then I like it. But yeah, I really don't know since I've never played either system.

Cost-wise:

PS3. Like I said before, I trust Sony's consoles now, whereas I'm not so sure about the 360. Both are still pretty far out of my price range (considering my age anyway an that I don't have a job), but if I were to shell out the money I'd feel more comfortable getting the PS3.

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Q: Overall : Which Console do you prefer? Why?

A: Playstation 3. Mainly because I don't like the ergonomics of the Xbox controller. I still don't like the hard plastic feel of the main four buttons, but it's improved a lot since the previous controller. Especially that it added shoulder buttons.
Secondly would be that I'm more familiar with Sony, and I'd also rather not use old media storage. The free online play is another thing I prefer than having to pay for no particular reason.

Q: Games Wise : Which Console's game do you prefer more or Look forward to get (It would definitely help if you list some games)? Why?

A: Well as it stands right now, I'm not too interested in either systems game library, except for MGS4. But for upcoming games, it's almost only PS3. I can't think of many X360 titles off the top of my head that are coming out that interest me much. That would be Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean 4 in that case. For PS3 I am looking forward to Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3, Tekken 6, Gran Turismo 5, White Knight Story (that first trailer still impressed me, even if the upcoming ones didn't), Tales of *whatever*, Versus XIII, etc.

Q: Graphic Wise : Which Console's game graphics appeal to you more? Why?

A: Well on paper PS3 is a bit stronger, but it depends on the developers. The Blu-Ray can store a lot more HD textures and things like that. But generally so far they both seem to be pretty equal, so I don't have a preference for now.

Q: Sound Wise : Which Console's Game music appeal to you more (It would definitely help if you list some games)? Why?

A: If you mean soundtracks in games? Then I'm not sure.

Q: Cost Wise : Which Console and Console's games are you more willing to spend on? Why?

A: I'm not willing to spend much on X360, since I wouldn't use it for too many games. If it was down to $150 I'd think about it. So the answer would be PS3. I see it as my long term console that I'll get many games for. I'm more willing to spend money on PS3. But it's price tag is still not very attractive to me.

PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360

Overall : Which Console do you prefer? Why?

As of now, the 360. I look through the libraries of both systems and I find the 360 has more games I would play. Of the PS3's library most of the games I would play are mutli-console and none of the PS3 exclusives excite me. Rachet, Resistance, Heavenly Sword, I respect them but they won't make me buy the console.

Games Wise : Which Console's game do you prefer more or Look forward to get (It would definitely help if you list some games)? Why?

Again the 360. Again I find more of the games interesting. I know it's not the best but I would like to give Halo 3 a try. Even though Master Chief is like Madden, I rather have my FPS's less realistic and more fantasy based. Also I would like to give the forge mode a try as well, games that give creation modes ( or more like mods in Halo's case) are great, as long as they have the main game down. then With SC4 coming out along for both and a already solid online system, the 360 seems like a better package for me....if they would fix the red rings of death already.

Graphic Wise : Which Console's game graphics appeal to you more? Why?

Who cares? I mean, graphics are nice but I'll play anything I like.

Sound Wise : Which Console's Game music appeal to you more (It would definitely help if you list some games)? Why? Same with the sound, I'll remember the music of games I like and that's all. Personally

Cost Wise : Which Console and Console's games are you more willing to spend on? Why?

Either way I'ld have to save up money for them so cost isn't a issue so much as how long the system will last. I mean, again the 360 has the red rings of death, and Sony's consoles have always been fragile as #####, so I'm not willing to take the risk on either one right now.

Before I get started, I'd like to point out that I am OVERLY biased. =P I highly dislike Microsoft, and I suppose that it doesn't help that the Xbox 360 does not have any games I really want.

Q: Overall : Which Console do you prefer? Why?

PS3 (what did you expect? I'm a Sony fanboy!). As long as there aren't any exclusive games on another console that I really want to play, this isn't going to change anytime soon.

Q: Games Wise : Which Console's game do you prefer more or look forward to get (it would definitely help if you list some games)? Why?

The only game that I really wanted (and now have) is Metal Gear Solid 4. Just because I'm a fan of the series. However, I also very much enjoyed Uncharted (a game that came with my PS3).

Q: Graphic Wise : Which Console's game graphics appeal to you more? Why?

I dunno, I haven't seen the Xbox 360's graphics. Uncharted and MGS4 have very impressive graphics, though. But still, I can't say. I'm not thát biased that I'll vote for the PS3's graphics without having seen the Xbox 360's. xP

Q: Sound Wise : Which Console's Game music appeal to you more (it would definitely help if you list some games)? Why?

Once again, I can't say as I haven't heard anything from the Xbox 360's. And I can't say I've heard anything outstanding on the PS3 yet.

Q: Cost Wise : Which Console and Console's games are you more willing to spend on? Why?

PS3, of course. I'd be stupid to spend money on a console that doesn't interest me. Though I must say that there don't seem to be any new games for the PS3 that interest me right now. Then again, I'm not quite done with MGS4 yet anyway (I'd like to try out online play among other things).

This concludes my biased opinion. =P

I think I'm in a pretty good position to compare since me and my brother have a PS3 and a 360 between us, basically so we can have access to all the exclusives, of which there are less and less all the time these days XD

Overall : Which Console do you prefer? Why?

Overall, the PS3 is a better piece of hardware out of the two. My brother got his 360 in september and its died twice, once right after he got it. I've had my PS3 since christmas as my birthday lands in march, and there has been no problem. I don't pay for online access unlike him, and we've both compared our games' online communities and we've found pretty much the same activity on both, so free net - good thing. Also by getting a PS3 I have a blu-ray player. That means games like MGS4 that take advantage of the extra space will inevitably be superior to those maxing out the space of 360 discs, I think the sheer scale and quality of MGS4 proves that, whether you like the game or not - any type of game taking that kind of advantage of the ps3 software will be superior to that of the 360. Alot of people are playin git level right now so they can do multiformat etc. but when asked overall I have to pick the console with more and capable of more - epsecially since price is a seperate question that I'll consider down the answer.

Games Wise : Which Console's game do you prefer more or Look forward to get (It would definitely help if you list some games)? Why?

Well, since both consoles have nearly the exact same library since almsot all the big games are multiformat now and I personally feel the difference this generation is the hardware, its almost a moot point. However, if I look at the exclusives that have held, I find Sony's big exclusives of Resistance, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and motorstorm to be more exciting than microsoft's: Halo, Gears, Bioshock, simply because there's more diversity. I FPS as much as the next person, but I need other big games for when I'm not in the mood for FPS and honestly the big MS exclusives seem to be FPS. Great games, sure (except for gears), but its too much of one genre. I'm sure there's other exclusives but my ponit is i'm considering the big console selling games. I asked my brother the other day what the 360's big platformer franchise was and he genuinely couldn't think of one, and he's a game junkie. Just a personally preference for me, but if we're considering games exclusive to each I feel the PS3 provides more diversity. Plus imo MGS4 and Uncharted and the most stunning games ever made which leads me to...

Graphic Wise : Which Console's game graphics appeal to you more? Why?

Lets start off that just like with the games, the graphics are mostly identical in most cases because this is a multiplatform era; devlopers want to br able to port one way or another so most games are extremely similar. However, I feel the PS3 wins graphics with Uncharted, and MGS4 alone. Rich vibrant varied looking games that are simply masterpieces. I'm considering exclusives here again btw since I feel the cross-platform games are very much the same. Halo is a great looking game, bioshock is maybe the best of the 360, but the PS3 has Uncharted, MGS, Ratchet and Clank. Games reaching for that full potential of bluray and proving the stunning quality the PS3 puts out.

Sound Wise : I honestly can't say I've heard a difference on either, not even in MGS4's famed uncompressed sound. However, I don't play with surround sound so I'm not sure I can fully comment. My opinion is no difference though.

Cost Wise : Costwise, I give it to 360, simply because while I prefer the PS3 obviously, I don't want it to seem like this is a totally bias opinion; I'm not ragging on the 360 here. Its a great console, and I think the cost questino here gives me an opening to elaborate on some of the things I think the 360 has done right that maybe didnt come up in the questions above. To start with the 360 is a great piece of hardware for its price, epsecially with MS's frequently and obviously hard effort towards price drops. I think this highlights their superiority to sony with their marketing of their console. The cheaper console? 360. The console that gets games out on time more often? 360. The console that is doing a better job of selling itself to the masses? the 360. Whilst I think the ps3 is superb and will pick up (it already has been for the last last year rapidly), the 360 has simply been marketted be3tter and more successfully. Even when there is little difference or a better alternative, the 260 some how manages to make itself smell of roses and make the PS3 look stupid, and that is a key thing you need to do to sell and make a console successful. I think the PS3 has rebounds very well in the alst half year or so, say since octoberish, but they need to be selling this console like I'm praising it; better graphics, more diversity, the cheapest bluray player around. Get the word out, alot of my friends still don't know the difference between HD-DVD and blu-ray; MAKE them know XD I know this is slightly out of the question but I sincerely don't think the 360 is hugely inferior than the ps3 or anything, so I did not wish to put that across.

OVerall though, I voted PS3.

Hmm I agree with you about MGS4 although I don't really like the game personally it does probably stand alone as the best looking console game on the market for now (although Gears Of War 2 looks like it may match it) But I can't agree on Uncharted in most instances the game is stunning but then that's ruined by the screen tearing - In my opinion Gears Of War is easily on par graphically with Uncharted. I really don't agree that there's any current proof of a clear winner graphically between the PS3 and 360 yet.



Me too that's why I play Mass Effect, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey, Dead Rising, Obllivion(with the exclusive DLC), Blue Dragon, C&C 3 and LoTR: BFME. Then I'll be looking forward to the future RPGs like Fallout 3(again with significant exclusive DLC), Star Ocean 4, Cry On, Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery, Spectral Force 3 and Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey sequels. It's unfair to label the 360 as just an FPS machine, ironically the PS3s biggest game this year is Resistance 2(as well as their other big E3 showing was Killzone 2). There's plenty on the 360 for non FPS fans especially in the way of RPGs which the PS3 is diabolically lacking. Don't get me wrong the PS3 is awesome but the 360 still has more to offer me than the PS3 - The only Ps3 game out this year that interests me is Valkyria Chronicles.

Um, ok. And? XD I put forth my opinion though, so evidently I don't agree. Not much more to say there.





Um, where to start dude. Unfair to label the 360 an FPS machine? Well, thats true, which is why I didn't. I simply said the big games that jump to mind for me are FPS. They are. Would you like me to like the look of the other games that are exclusive more? Cos I don't. That opinion thing again. Second of all ,why the RPG highlight? Lets see: mass effect - rpg. ES? RPG. LO? RPG. Oblivion? RPG. Blue Dragon? RPG. Fallout 3? RPG. SO4? RPG. Cry On? RPG. ToV? RPG. IU? RPG etc. Almost every game you mentioned there....was an rpg :S I didn't mention them haha. In fact I mentioned diversity - I specifically mentioning a platformgame, an action adventure game, a hack and slash type game and a driving game. I was saying I was more interested in the diverity presented by SOny...and you list me 12 or so rpgs? Sure. I'm not sure why you barraged a list of rpgs I've heard of, but go for it. I'm not an rpg gamer, I'm a video gamer; I like all kinds of games...which I thought was obvious? I'm not a moron poster here man. You know I'm a gamer, I follow game news, so you know I formed my opinion considering all that.

*shrugs* Idon't quite understand any of your points in relation to my post. Fair points in relation to your opinion, but it wasn't mine, and didn't have much relevent to what I said XD you probably saw I said plenty positive about the 360 too, so I don't have much else to say to you lol. You own both too right? Well you likelyhave your favourite and I have mine.

Fair enough I was just giving reasons why some opinions can easily be seen as flawed due to facts such as screen tearing for example. Whatever happens there's no way we've seen the full potential of either console yet (especially on the PS3) and I don't think that will happen for a few years yet especially when you compare early PS2 games to the later ones like God Of War or Shadow Of The Colossus, on that note when (Sonys)Team ICO release their next game I think we'll get a true taste of what the PS3 is capable of.







I just named a few off the top of my head but the last I checked the RPG was a game too and RTS, Sandbox and action adventure games are mentioned too if you look. Either way the highlight was there in relation to the above comment of wanting more to play outside of FPS games and I clearly pointed out there are other games to play it just so happens the bulk of the games that are showing/shown a lot of promise are RPGs - which have some relevance to most posters on these boards.

Also you said, "honestly the big MS exclusives seem to be FPS". That wasn't made out like it was stating an opinion you were saying "honestly" meaning frankly that the big MS exclusives are FPS. Sorry bro it's they way you put it that's why I pointed there's a little more to the 360's current and future line up than just FPS games.

I know you aren't a moron poster man I don't know why you'd think I'd think that?



The relevance was the fact that you mentioned as a gamer you would be looking to play more games outside of one genre. I merely pointed out that there are other genres on there. Yeah, I have both and like you I'm a video gamer too but I'm completely neutral so I don't have a favourite console it's the games that I favour it just so happens that the 360 gets played more for due to the fact that there's a bigger choice of videogames available on there.

Time to throw my chip in the pile....

PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360

Overall

I prefer the 360. It's clearly superior to the PS3 in practically every category that matters to me. It has more enjoyable games, a better user interface, a better online community and was much more affordable at the time I was looking to purchase a next-gen system. But mostly, it's just about the games, as I move on to the next section....

Games Wise

360 in a landslide victory. I'd estimate the ratio of good exclusives is about 4:1 in favor of the 360. And games that come to both systems are generally more enjoyable for me on the 360 simply due to the controller. I love the 360 controller; it's the best controller since the 16-bit days, IMO. Admittedly, this was much more severe last year, when the PS3 had close to 0 games that interested me even in the slightest. The PS3 is finally coming into its own, but still only has 3 coming exclusives I can think of that interest me, while I already own more than 3 exclusives for the 360, and am looking forward to a good deal more in the coming months.

Graphic Wise

Who really cares? Both systems are so similar graphically that the differences mean virtually nothing. The 360 handles textures a fair bit better, while the PS3 features richer, brighter colors and less pop-in. Both look great. Graphics don't really mean much to me in the first place, so I can't really say I prefer either one over the other, considering how miniscule the differences are.

Sound Wise

I dunno. I have much less experience with the PS3, so I couldn't really offer a valid opinion on this anyway. I suppose the PS3 probably has more potential, but I don't really have any information on hand. Anything I would say would be based on hearsay, so I can't really add much to this section.

Cost Wise

As I mentioned earlier, the 360 crushed the PS3 in this area back when I was shopping for a system. Not only did the 360 have all of the good games (on account of being around a year in advance), but the system itself was also much more affordable. Now that both systems seem to be around the same price range (actually seems that the PS3 has the slight lead overall), it mostly comes down to games. I'd much rather spend money on 360 games, as I stated earlier. The 360 has far more exclusives that interest me, and in the case of multi-platform games, I generally prefer the 360 versions due to numerous advantages over the PS3 such as: a better, easier to use controller, better online community and better online features (such as DLC).


To sum up, it's all about the games for me. It's a complete reversal from last generation, where the PS2 crushed the Xbox in games that interested me. This time it's the 360 that crushes the PS3 in exclusive titles. My cap will always be in the corner of the system that has the best games. I hold no loyalty for console developers - whichever console has the better library of games is the one I will purchase. Last gen it was the PS2. This time it's the 360.

Well, I got the impression you were giving the "reason" my opinion is flawed. I've read about screen tearing in a review of uncharted, but I personally never picked up on or spotted any *shrugs* Of course we haven't seen the full graphical potential yet, but I answered a question that I can only answer with what has come so far ans what has being indicated by games so far and going forward - I can't see the future so I can only say what I think, and I'm pretty sure I said the PS3 is showing the most to me right now so you're probably right with the Team ICO comment. However, I can only form my opinion on the game sout, not the games I've seen nothing of, so MGS4 and Uncharted still swing me towards the PS3.



Well I don't decide a console is better based on its rpgs, so that wasn't so relevent to me, which is why i was confused - you quoted my post. It almost counters it since my point was about diversity - I think i mentioned an example about platform games? And then I get this big wave of rpgs thrown at me, and I wasn't sure what it meant.



Well, I'm apologise for that, but I though tit was a given i'd be stating my opinion, and not pretend facts or someone's opinion, so I'll try be more clear about that. Thats honestly that I think. "seem" was supposed to show I was saying that I thought, and that its not for definete too. And I still do feel that frankly, in my opinion, the big exclusives are FPS. If you have an issue with that, well I'm comnig to that.



Well, because your entirely post really seemed to do one thing : quote something I said, and say the opposite, or ponit out the "flaws" in my opinion. Thats great you feel the opposite and all but its difficult to point out "flaws" in someone's opinion and for them not to take that as you treating them as a moron. You think I didn't consider other people's vies on uncharted, or all those other games before I said what I thought? Because thats the way you put it. I considered al lthat and formed my opinion. So when I basically read "no" to something that is opinion based, and we're not arguing facts here, then if there's no give or take, thats alost no point in your post, because I can really only say "great" and let you have yours. You can't point out a flaw in someone's opinion man in you respect it because you know they took what they thought into consideration before they put it down in the post. I don't agree with yours, well, really at all but its not flawed. Its just yours. Its a different ideology and you dson't need me tellnig you its flawed or wrong. *shrug* just the way you came across man. If you're going to just say no it doesnt have graphics you think it has in relation to uncharted, or no, the 360's biggest games aren't FPS, then all I can do is shrug and laugh, and wonder wh yyou bothered. You can tell me thats what you think, but there's no point i quoting me, and telling me what I think isn't right because of *insert 15 games*. I think you need to be a bit less protective of the x-box, and just worry about what you think, instead of tellin gother people they are wrong for not liking it; i'm sure you don't think you did, and thats fine, but imo thats what yo did. You got a little defensive, and tried to tell me my opinion was wrong.




Well, just in case I haven't explained well enough in my mega rant XD as a gamer, I know about all those games outside the one genre. I sit on here and ign and rpgamer and rpgfan, and gamespot, and dsfanboy and al lthat other greatstuff when i'm bored and I'm not with the family, so i've heard of msot of this stuff, and thats why I said what I said: if FPS still come to mind when I know of al lthese games, then I think its safe for me to say that, atelast in my opinion, the big 360 exclusives are FPS or whatever the point being made is.

And this is a far bigger post than I'd eve rusually bother to write, but I thought it was worth explaining this to you. Take it easy dude.

Yeah I feel the tearing is some of the worst I've seen so I can't understand how you haven't noticed, it's very obvious I seriously doubt your copy of Uncharted is the only one without it but if you didn't notice you didn't notice.



Fair enough I can see that but I could throw a few other genres and games at you though there's plenty there. Anyway I just listed the games that I have that aren't FPS some of which weren't RPGs either but I've already made that point. One good platform game doesn't exactly give the PS3 catalogue that diversity you are talking about either. The fact that RPGs offer more gaming options outside the FPS games does make it relevant since you seem to think that the biggest games on the 360 are just FPS games.



Well then things are not always what they seem Just take a look at the 360s catalogue most of the FPS games on there are either on the PS3 too or are due to come out. Halo is the only big exclusive FPS on the 360 thats not going anywhere, the other big exclusive is Gears which isn't an FPS but a third person shooter. Sonys two biggest upcoming exclusive games are full blown FPS games Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 the PS3 is on its way to being just as much of a FPS console as the 360, why? Because the FPS just happens to sell well in the West it's got nothing do with a specific console.



Then you took what I said out of context. I didn't tell you your opinion was wrong regarding the graphics(or for not liking anything I don't where you got that from?) I just gave a reason what I thought held Uncharted back from being as ground breaking as you described. And protective of the Xbox? OK now that's a pretty stupid assumption because I would be the moron to get defensive over a piece of machinery. I already told you I'm neutral and personally if I was going to be protective over any console it should the PS3 after all the trouble I went to get it(and working) and the amount I paid. Perhaps the lack of games has left me feeling a little bitter who knows. I disagreed with your opinion because saying that the 360s biggest games are all FPS and the games available on the 360 show this is as being wrong not me. Many people say the DS has nothing to offer but casual party games, this of course isn't true and is as misguided as the general opinion of the FPS being the 360s only big seller.

Also with your over-sensitivity in regard to assuming I thought you are a moron statement just because I said you are wrong about the 360's game library, you are the only one that got defensive here man.



Just because you can't think of any other big games on the 360 without thinking FPS(after reading a few internet blogs etc) it doesn't make it a correct train of thought or opinion. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you preferring the PS3 for whatever reason that's your choice but I'm trying to show that the general opinion regarding the 360 as just being an FPS machine is incorrect.

To have opinion on something there needs to be no substantial proof of what ever that something is(god, aliens or this gen being won by the PS3 for example lol) but in this case there is proof that there are big sellers out/coming to the 360 beyond the FPS genre that is a fact not an opinion.

I can't really say any more than that without repeating myself over and over again which I'm pretty sure I've done enough of in my last two posts so I'm calling it a day with this - and apologies to the OP since he asked for no bickering and to you mush I guess for thinking I thought you were a moron.

The 360 has turns of diversity Mushroom; Viva Pinata, Dead or Alive 4, Dead Rising, Gotham Project Racing 4, Forza MotorSport 2, Saints Row, Halo 3, Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2, etc. Those are atleast 5 different genres presented in the games I listed, if not more.

Let's not be ignorant.

Whoa whoa whoa! Quote wars should cease!

I'd agree with Mr Wonderful that the 360 does have some diversity but I also agree with 'shroom that the system seems to lean quite heavily towards FPS.

The PS3 exclusives interest me slightly more then the 360 Exclusives. The PS3 hardware (as well as user interface, home ext. ect.) interests me more thus the PS3 is the machine for me. Trust me, I have gone back and forth and considered both options for months.

I honestly think that you can't go wrong this generation. I've said this before I'm sure but I'm pretty certain I'd be happy with a PS3 or a 360. I look long distance anyway, and seeing as we don't know what the exclusives of the future hold then who's to know which one is really the better machine on exclusives alone. I'm sure the gamecube had some decent exclusives when it first came out as well, but I'm damn sure certain I'm happier I got a PS2 instead.

The 360 is more geared towards the American gamer while the PS3 is geared more for the Japanese Market... in theory... the line seems to have become blurred lately. The majority of arguments have been judgements on the games that are exclusive or that we know about which are exclusive. I don't want to buy a system on such short sighted arguements.

Flame wins....

This.

It's pretty obvious that this is the most balanced console generation since the 16-bit days. All three of the main consoles have something to offer. The PS3 got a late start, but once it got its feet on the ground, it put itself right in the thick of things.

If I could, I'd easily own all three of the consoles this generation.

Lol! They ceased four days ago. That's kind of the point I was making that yeah the 360 is heavy on the FPS genre but there are other games on the system that will appeal to a variety of gamers.

I personally look at the PS3 as moving toward being quite FPS heavy too. I may be wrong but I'm sure there's more FPS on the PS3 than any other genre at the moment. To be fair though it's not the PS3's fault, the FPS seems to be the 'in thing' lately(in the west anyway), with virtually every other action game being an FPS in some shape or form. Just like it was when platformers were the 'in thing' about 15 years ago. I guess it's a sign of the times.

So yeah, if you can afford it or are willing to save over time to eventually get both then you're laughing, both systems have a great offering.

I don't know, for me, it's a tough choice, yeah yeah 360 has more games blah blah blah, it's about quality not quantity anyway, but PS3 has a better quality for a system, and the PS3 has almost the same games as the 360 that people mostly care about like FFXIII and Call, so I would have to say PS3 is slightly better.