LagunaWannabe
May 16 2008, 09:17 PM
I'm about to post a 50 Cent video. Flame me for that. But that's not what this is about, listen to ALL the things they bleep out, I've NEVER heard this done this strictly on a song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xb5-I9I6l8:21 When they bleep it, the lyric is: "I like the way she do it she put her back in to it". They bleep "put her back into it"
:22 "Then she drop it low, she gets the doe". They bleep "then she drop it low"
:37 "Let her ass drop, like my 64"
:54 "I dismiss a ho". They bleep out ho
1:01 "She a super freak", They bleep out "freak".
1:04 "I give her somethin to suck, she give me somethin to eat". They bleep out the words "suck" and "eat".
1:07 "She like it rough". They bleep out the word "rough".
1:09 "We keep it goin and we switch positions". They bleep out the word "switch".
1:55 "Where the girls are freaky". They bleep out "freaky"
2:15 "if home girl wit me Ima get it, hit it, split it". The censor "get it, hit it, split it"
2:26 "if i turn the gang good, im a let her come up". they censor "come up"
I'm just kind of shocked they bleep out words like, "freak", "back into it", "drop it low", "come up", "rough" etc
is it just me? or is that a little much?
JD-san
May 16 2008, 09:21 PM
As far as his music goes, I'd prefer that they actually bleep out the entire thing.
But as for censorship, obviously, that's ridiculously overdone. I doubt it'd have happened with a lesser-known artist.
Ibanez Player
May 16 2008, 09:53 PM
I think it is too much. What they are doing though, is appealing to the older crowd (for some reason.)
A good example is today:
I was in my Math class, and said "Freaking" (cussing can get you fined +$200), the sub tried to fine me for it because she said freaking was a bad word. If I knew I wouldn't have gotten a ticket I would have told that bitch to shove it up her ass.
I'm 100% against censorship, even if it is some douche *** white supremacist who deserves to be hung by the balls.
LagunaWannabe
May 16 2008, 10:07 PM
Like I can understand censoring the words ho, bitch, ass, etc, but to completely censor ANYTHING sexual related I find REALLY weird. They've even started bleeping out gun names, in the song they say the word "magnum" referring to a gun as well, and they bleep it out.
I can't say I'm AGAINST censorship, cause I mean that's why there are censored videos and there are raw videos, they always have the option of having the raw version... but if THATS the version they're gonna play on the radio, thats absurd
they even went so far as to make Snoop Dogg's new hit Sexual Eruption re-titled Sensual Seduction. And they had him sing a "toned down" chorus in stead of sexual eruption. I mean.... cmon. llool
MightOfKerghan
May 16 2008, 11:37 PM
Here's a good idea, don't watch it on TV. You have YouTube, and a bunch of other places where you can see it un-censored. I agree with most of you, the censorship of words that aren't even swear-words (such as gun names) is a far-cry from the American Constitution, as well as what the country stands for.
but than beter lissen than cihldren of bodom. than wery rock out band than deth metil wery nice.
The Evil Dead
May 17 2008, 08:42 AM
QUOTE (MightOfKerghan @ May 17 2008, 02:37 AM)

Here's a good idea, don't watch it on TV. You have YouTube, and a bunch of other places where you can see it un-censored. I agree with most of you, the censorship of words that aren't even swear-words (such as gun names) is a far-cry from the American Constitution, as well as what the country stands for.
but than beter lissen than cihldren of bodom. than wery rock out band than deth metil wery nice.
How do you go from making sense to barely typing English correctly?
As far as I'm concerned it should all be one big bleep. No one wants to hear Fitty.
It is unnecessary... But we must protect the innocent!
Pesmerga
May 17 2008, 09:26 AM
I do wonder that as well MoK. You seem to change your English everyday.
And I agree with JD and TED, the entire song should be bleeped. Heck, the video...never should be one in the first place, should be blurred so that nobody knows and cares.
I swear, people that listen to 50 have mental problems in life.
Oh and this is what we do with 50 Cent: I advise everyone to watch it. Especially TED xD
Please LW, watch this and learn from it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqEPLyu0nA0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWvvF95ju9k...feature=related
LagunaWannabe
May 18 2008, 09:16 AM
QUOTE
I swear, people that listen to 50 have mental problems in life.
Hhah let me clarify, people that listen to 50 and claim he's the GREATEST, or that he's lyrically even GOOD, or take what he says to HEART, or thinks that he's still HARDCORE
Cause i listen to 50 and G-Unit, a lot. I dont have mental problems, but I laugh at how horrible 50's lyrics and persona have become. He raps about the same stuff INCESSANTLY (money, cars, going to the bank, and occasionally a ho). But seriously thats it.
Are some of his songs catchy? If you like Rap then yes, some of his songs are catchy. I like the Ayo Technology beat, Lloyd Bank's "Hands Up" beach, the "I Get Money" beat. Are they classic songs? no. Are they great lyrics? no. Does it take talent to make these songs? no.
But, does that mean that a song cant be catchy? Not at all. Just look at Soulja Boy for christ sake.... lolll
Pesmerga
May 19 2008, 06:29 AM
Songs can be catchy, songs can be entertaining, but then we are talking about individual songs.
You clearly state that you listen to 50 and Suck Unit, therefore it is not the catchy songs you listen to, but albums.
Acknowledging that he sucks, but still listening to it proves my point made earlier =P.
Voyou San
May 19 2008, 06:37 AM
artist aside, this is pathetic.. dont censor any of it.. i never got bleeping out a word.. everyone knows what the word is, its pointless to put in the bleep... if you dont like those type of words, dont listen to it, plain and simple.. never did understand the damn bleep.
SpikeJr
May 19 2008, 06:44 AM
Yeah I agree. If someone is going to listen to 50 Cent then they will no doubt be wanting the full version and no bleeping and they will expect swearing and feel ok with it. Most people who say these should be censored won't actually like 50 Cent and will not listen to his music so what is the point. If they don't want the swearing then don't listen to it. Its *bleeping* pointless.
LagunaWannabe
May 19 2008, 01:21 PM
I guess its more for the kids. This gets into the whole "parent watching what your kid does" argument, but sometimes u cant help it if ur kid is over a friend's house who's mother doesnt watch what they watch, and they see 50 on MTV.
As long as theres the raw version, which there is, i dont really have a problem with them bleeping stuff out, I just made the thread because I was surprised at exactly WHAT and HOW MUCH they bleeped.
Cassini
May 19 2008, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (LagunaWannabe @ May 19 2008, 04:21 PM)

I guess its more for the kids. This gets into the whole "parent watching what your kid does" argument, but sometimes u cant help it if ur kid is over a friend's house who's mother doesnt watch what they watch, and they see 50 on MTV.
As long as theres the raw version, which there is, i dont really have a problem with them bleeping stuff out, I just made the thread because I was surprised at exactly WHAT and HOW MUCH they bleeped.
I generally take the approach that censorship is always ridiculous and pointless. That said however, I have no problem with it because self-censorship is perfectly acceptable (it's government censorship that we're protected from). Plus, record labels are businesses, and if they can sell both uncut and edited versions of the same song, more power to them.
Quite honestly, I take the belief that the well known "PA-Parental Advisory" sticker only helps sell more albums, not discouraging people from buying. Now, not only are you listening to whatever music you think it's cool to listen too, but you're also pulling one over on your parents because it's forbidden material.
Jerame
May 20 2008, 05:21 AM
I don't like this song or any rap music really, so I'm speaking on ethics here:
This was a ##### youtube video -- kids have easy access to this rap garbage on the computer. All you gotta do is create a fake account and you can watch and hear all sorts of adult content at ANY AGE. I think that it's at least a noble idea to bleep the sexually suggestive #####. It's the very least of censorship for kids on the wide-open internet.
I'd say that if you wanna listen to the full nasty version of the song; you should buy the ##### cd or mp3 and have a field day with it. It's much easier for kids to find adult content on the internet than to smuggle it from a store, so I'm down with increased censorship on the 'net. The lyrics might not be very offensive or inappropriate for adults, but they have no place for the ears of small kids.
Seriously, have you SEEN some of the swanky ##### on MTV these days? It's getting kinda raunchy -- ridicuously raunchy --and that's a ##### feat for MTV.
Spanky
May 29 2008, 06:24 AM
I just find it funny that they still make censored songs and videos when kids can so easily access uncensored ones.. it is pointless now. It is like the companies and parents just feel better by having the censored stuff there even though it isn't accomplishing anything.
I don't like fifty cent's music but everyone is entitled to free speech. The government talks about freedoms and we have to fight for them but people aren't allowed to swear?
I had a mother ask me not to cuss one day when I was at the store and the cereal I wanted (Cracklin' Oat Bran) was almost 4.50, I said 'What the #####!' and she didn't like me swearing in front of her child. Well I just went off on her and told her she can go somewhere else. I have a right to say what I want and I fought for that right and I walked away with her shocked that someone would say something other than sorry.
It doesn't matter if you swear infront of a kid.... eventually he is going to learn the word. What the ##### does being young have to do with not saying a word? Maybe learning them earlier will help just like lowering the drinking age and smoking age... but what do I know?
Chalryn
May 29 2008, 01:05 PM
As for the specific video posted originally: What the hell.
I can understand the whole idea behind censorship, especially when it's something as mainstream as 50 Cent, though I can't say I entirely support it. On a related note, though: Why is it that only artists' lyrics are being censored, yet we still sit here and watch women in tight, skimpy outfits shaking their asses and breasts at the camera, among other things? If you're going to both censoring something, do a thorough job of it. But, then again, since this is an artist like 50 Cent we're talking about here, what the hell is the point, even? When something of his is censored to this degree, isn't it obvious that the younger audiences shouldn't be listening/watching in the first place?
So let me get this straight...
We're going to provide music for a mainstream -- particularly teenage -- audience, and this music is quite explicit. Oh, but don't worry, we're going to bleep out half of the music's material, so that way, you unintelligent people who can't figure out what they're saying anyway won't have to be exposed to the explicit lyrics of this music. After all, this young audience we're intentionally broadcasting this music to isn't prepared for the explicitness of it.
(In case you didn't pick up on it, I was simply role-playing there.)
If something's so explicit, why is it mainstream? What ever happened to some of those popular songs that had maybe one or two "swears" in it, that weren't really affected so majorly when censored? (I can think of a number of songs that I hardly noticed were censored before hearing the uncensored versions.) If we're getting to this point, that we need to "bleep out" half of a goddamn song, then perhaps it's time we put some actual thought into the distribution of this stuff, like who exactly will be exposed to it. Perhaps we should think more about how appropriate this content is for said audience.
That aside, I agree about censorship being a bit pointless, especially nowadays. We see the videos on TV, edited. We hear the music on the radio, edited. In the end, if we like the music, we eventually purchase and/or download the album(s), unedited. Doesn't that make the initial censorship a bit pointless? And, of course, as others have pointed out, with something like the internet these days, it's so easy to find unedited material, so to continue editing it on the TV/radio is even more pointless than it was in the past.
On the other hand, as I said before, I can somewhat understand this censorship. If its purpose is to prevent pre-teens from being exposed to explicit language and such, then that's fine. Though, really, I don't care what anyone says, but these days, they're going to be exposed to it sooner or later. Parents may as well just introduce it to their kids themselves, before they learn about it themselves and get in trouble because of it.
Besides, let's be honest here. There is no such thing as a "bad word." As George Carlin has pointed said, "No bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad intentions, and wooooords." These so-called "bad words" work just like any other words in the language: you can take them and apply them in just about whatever way you want to. Example: If I were to shout out, "F*** you!" at somebody, then that person could take offense from that. Of course, if it's just a friend I'm saying it to, in response to some smart-ass remark, and we're both laughing it off, then it means next to nothing. Similarly, if I were to drop something heavy on my foot, I might scream, "F****!!!" Am I offending anyone by doing this? What's the difference between screaming this, or screaming "Ow!!!" or "Fiddlesticks!!!" ? It's simply an exclamation; a verbal method of venting.
(Now, hopefully, everybody reading this already knows this. >_>)
But, of course, majority rules, so we're stuck with censorship. So, that said, I just wish we'd be more intelligent about doing so, and I wish we'd just pay more attention to the kind of material we're exposing to certain audiences. (And I also wish people would grow the hell up and stop suing everyone and everything over ridiculous things like their five-year-old learning a "bad word" because he stole his big sister's 50 Cent album and popped it into a CD player.)
Noir
May 29 2008, 01:10 PM
QUOTE (JD-san @ May 16 2008, 09:21 PM)

As far as his music goes, I'd prefer that they actually bleep out the entire thing.
But as for censorship, obviously, that's ridiculously overdone. I doubt it'd have happened with a lesser-known artist.
I agree with everything this man says.
Jerame
May 30 2008, 12:55 AM
QUOTE (Spanky @ May 29 2008, 06:24 AM)

It doesn't matter if you swear infront of a kid.... eventually he is going to learn the word. What the ##### does being young have to do with not saying a word? Maybe learning them earlier will help just like lowering the drinking age and smoking age... but what do I know?
I don't think kids should be swearing around adults ... it's disrespectful. I'm sure they learn and say the words around kids thier own age, but when they start to use those words around adults, they are pushing adult boundaries.
50 cent has a lot of sex talk in his rap lyrics. How do you think it confuses a child to be told at school to abstain from sex until marriage and then see all this sexually suggestive ##### on mtv and youtube? There's plenty of mixed messaging going on here.
I do agree with lowering the drinking age -- if you can fight for America, you should be able to drink in America. But the smoking age should stay put. I think 18 is low enough for any substance age law.
Noir
May 30 2008, 03:55 AM
Words only have as much power as you give them.
Rhadamanthus
May 30 2008, 04:35 AM
50 should learn to be more tasteful with his words.
I could not care less.
Pesmerga
May 30 2008, 06:32 AM
QUOTE (Spanky @ May 29 2008, 03:24 PM)

It doesn't matter if you swear infront of a kid.... eventually he is going to learn the word. What the ##### does being young have to do with not saying a word? Maybe learning them earlier will help just like lowering the drinking age and smoking age... but what do I know?
We will see if you still think the same, when you get a kid, who calls you #####, because some punk in a supermarket said "what the #####" and then having a go at his mother for an immature reason.
I am fine with cursing, but I only do it in my bedroom, when no other people are around... well my girlfriend is usually there, but I don't go out and curse on the street, just because we have "freedom of speech."
Jerame
May 30 2008, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (Noir @ May 30 2008, 03:55 AM)

Words only have as much power as you give them.
Yes, I agree.
But gorwn adults have a more developed sense of judgement as to when it is appropriate to use swear words. Kids lack such judgement in my opinion. I also think that they are too immature to listen to sex lyrics and understand the implications of that kinda adult language. If a kid is not old enough to have and understand sex, I don't think they should be singing along to lyrics about it.
I have no problem with adults listening to this #####-ass rap music, but we need tighter filters to keep it away from children. Gangster rap music is mild in comparsion to all the actual smut kids can look at on the net FOR FREE without ID. If you don't think this is serious, I can name two free pornsites that show full-length 'extreme' hardcore videos for you right now.
But I won't ... if you wanna know, hit me up for a meesage
Noir
May 31 2008, 04:23 AM
lol, No thanks, I'm not a fan of watching people #####.
But what exactly do you mean by kids? Usually I associate "kids" with 13-17 year olds, so we might be thinking of two different things completely.
Jerame
May 31 2008, 12:21 PM
QUOTE (Noir @ May 31 2008, 04:23 AM)

lol, No thanks, I'm not a fan of watching people #####.
But what exactly do you mean by kids? Usually I associate "kids" with 13-17 year olds, so we might be thinking of two different things completely.
I'm saying anyone under the legal age of consent. That's usually 16.
Nocinderella
May 31 2008, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (Spanky @ May 30 2008, 02:24 AM)

I had a mother ask me not to cuss one day when I was at the store and the cereal I wanted (Cracklin' Oat Bran) was almost 4.50, I said 'What the #####!' and she didn't like me swearing in front of her child. Well I just went off on her and told her she can go somewhere else. I have a right to say what I want and I fought for that right and I walked away with her shocked that someone would say something other than sorry.
It doesn't matter if you swear infront of a kid.... eventually he is going to learn the word. What the ##### does being young have to do with not saying a word? Maybe learning them earlier will help just like lowering the drinking age and smoking age... but what do I know?
It's against the law to swear in public here

I think it does matter if you're swearing in front of children, The other weekend I went to a 1 year olds birthday party (there were kids up to the age of 10 there) and the dad yelled out something along the lines of "What the f*** did you do with my f****** smokes ya f****** c***?!" ...the kids automatically went silent... Sure they don't know what it means but they still know that it's bad and might find it potentially scary, kids are like sponges, they just soak up everything they see and hear.
I think swearing sounds ugly, so I usually stick with the edited versions

But I agree that they went a bit too far with that 50 Cent song. I felt the same way with "Let's Get Retarded" - The Black Eyed Peas.
Noir
Jun 2 2008, 05:38 AM
QUOTE (Jerame @ May 31 2008, 12:21 PM)

QUOTE (Noir @ May 31 2008, 04:23 AM)

lol, No thanks, I'm not a fan of watching people #####.
But what exactly do you mean by kids? Usually I associate "kids" with 13-17 year olds, so we might be thinking of two different things completely.
I'm saying anyone under the legal age of consent. That's usually 16.
I think 14+ can take it. I've seen what happens when people around 13 are allowed to do things they they really aren't mature enough to get, everything is a ##### gateway then.
Demonwing
Jun 15 2008, 07:03 AM
Censors on swearing are pointless. It's a fvcking WORD, what is the point of bleeping it out? If we stop trying to censor kids from the word, maybe they wouldn't find it so fun to use?
On topic, I believe the entire video should be censored and 50cent be tried for 1st degree murder of music
Apirant
Jun 15 2008, 05:39 PM
Seems somewhat foolish to censor such lyrics. I find it somewhat hard to enjoy the song with the censoring in there, if at all.
TsUkAsA
Jun 15 2008, 07:09 PM
i'm all for responsible censorship, and going by my massively limited knowledge on music television, or any tv for that fact (i haven't watched tv for over 2 years now) and radio, kids who listen and watch this stuff are getting more and more impressionable, and it is the kids, not us adults.
we listen to his lyrics and go, 'woah! step back, is this guy retarded?' we can look at his lyrics and know how full of crap they are, but, unfortunately, a lot of the more impressionable youngsters (and adults alike) don't get that, they will take this lyrics, add it to their daily vocabulary.
let's face it, do you want to hear your younger brother or sister carrying on about how they spanked and twisted and split it in maths class today? even though they have absolutely no idea what they just said? i don't think so, i think that while it may be a little extreme, it's probably justified.
Demonwing
Jun 20 2008, 06:45 AM
QUOTE (TsUkAsA @ Jun 15 2008, 08:09 PM)

i'm all for responsible censorship, and going by my massively limited knowledge on music television, or any tv for that fact (i haven't watched tv for over 2 years now) and radio, kids who listen and watch this stuff are getting more and more impressionable, and it is the kids, not us adults.
we listen to his lyrics and go, 'woah! step back, is this guy retarded?' we can look at his lyrics and know how full of crap they are, but, unfortunately, a lot of the more impressionable youngsters (and adults alike) don't get that, they will take this lyrics, add it to their daily vocabulary.
let's face it, do you want to hear your younger brother or sister carrying on about how they spanked and twisted and split it in maths class today? even though they have absolutely no idea what they just said? i don't think so, i think that while it may be a little extreme, it's probably justified.
They can say it all they want, if I can smack them for being retarded idiots. Fair game.
Theferrell
Jul 3 2008, 03:32 PM
QUOTE (Jerame @ May 30 2008, 04:31 PM)

I have no problem with adults listening to this #####-ass rap music, but we need tighter filters to keep it away from children. Gangster rap music is mild in comparsion to all the actual smut kids can look at on the net FOR FREE without ID. If you don't think this is serious, ]
I have a different perspective on this subject..
I hate rap, always have, always will. I think it's just full of a bunch of stupid horny guys who can write lame poetry. My little sister listens to all the top 20 crap they play on the radio (ok, I know it's not fiddy-cent, but close enough) and it seriously makes me sick because of the estupidez (sorry for the spanish term, only fitting word I could come up with) of the subject matter. "She moves her body like a cyclone", "Lean Back, a huh, Lean Back" (and now my personal favorite), "Clap jo hands, clap jo hands, jo can do dis all by jo self" AAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
I don't care if they bleep whatever they want out of those songs, just less for my sister to torture me with while wakeboarding.
Athrun
Jul 3 2008, 05:47 PM
Laguna, The Game and Young Buck >>>> 50 cent.
Well this is pretty ridiculous censorship, I must say. A lot of it is based only on the context of the sentence (which usually is understandable, to a degree) but this is a bit much. And some of it I don't understand why they censured it at all, like "freak", "rough", etc. It's pretty laughable.
Hugo
Jul 4 2008, 02:10 AM
There is a major difference between good rap and maintstream BS.
There are rappers out there that come up with really good material.
As to the censorship, I believe that any censorship is ##### retarded.
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