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Jerame
I've HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH BITCHES AND HOES, WHOSE ONLY GOAL IN LIFE IS TO USE MEN FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH WANTS AND NEEDS. I'm really beginning to wonder if I could ever find a REAL WOMAN with a REAL HEART, that will not play me for my dick or for my money. My love-life has been nothing short of a goddamn frustrating mess from my own conception.

I'm no player and I'm no nice-guy either. I'm ME and I will be loved as ME. Maybe some day a woman will come along that can feel me out ....

#####, well anyways, enough of the shrink-talk. Anybody out there feel my pain on this one? I just can't catch a break.
You can ##### that 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorn'. Hell hath no fury like an enraged ############ with a cheating wife and sawed-off .45.

No luck friends, no luck laugh.gif
Phisix
Women say men are the worst at cheating but it is actually the other way around. Thats why I do not trust them anymore.
Valince
Meh its mutual. Both can cheat on each other in the worst ways. For example a chick can get a threesome with 2 dudes, while a dude can get a threesome with 2 chicks >_>. I used to think exactly like you that changed as I met more and more girls.

One girl experience doesn't mean all are the same.
AbYsS
Its chicks like that who give the rest of us bad names >_>; And its more and more common to have woman who are bitches and sluts out there these days, but Im sure you will find one who will be a sweetheart to you, someday. Just be careful its not a TRAP!

Listen to Shion, for he seems most wise when it comes to this.
Phisix
True, but I don't base it on one experience I base it many experiences and they have all ended up with the girl being only interested in my money, flat or wanting some much more hotter guy who is just has no brains. I have had one good experience which makes up for it all though.

I just find in this day and age girls are more susceptible to cheating and out of a large group that I know 65% of girls have cheated more then men, but I do know everyone is different and are not like that so my faith in relationships is not damaged that much
2~8~4
Most girls are bitches and whores. I have a lot in Valley-ho. We selfish cause we hav period...

Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about maybe I just have shity bitches a friends.
Valince
I haven't dated in so long now but been friends with enough to know what "kind" of girls to steer clear from in the dating department. Your standard run of the mill BORING, always pissy girl is 100% likely to get bored of YOU and will go ##### around with other people. You will get cockblocked on a dime and she will only come to you when she needs something. Phone calls will all be about "what she needs" and will hardly call to see how you're doing. I wanna say, on the first bogus phone call you get, it's time to think about breaking up.

The "Girls with the guy on the side" - bad news, there. Less likely to call you as they are hanging with the sideguy.

"Rebound girls" just want to be with somebody, while still hoping to get back with the other man. You will hardly be on their mind and when "the ex bf" starts popping up in conversations, GTFO of there fast. And the girls that like ####### and hate nice guys. To put it bluntly, being cussed back, or slapped to the point of domestic violence is exciting apparently.

Then there is the scorned ones who just want to get back at the species for whatever wrong a man has done to them. Speaking on that, yes it can be said that we men are at fault and there is the saying that good girls learn how to be ####### from men. I see it myself, there is more out there these days who just wanna sleep around, but there is still some normal ones out there who, similar to your situation, is looking for "that man who doesn't just want to #####" and wants to be loved real deal. You have to find them. You might go through many girls before finding the one but you will find her.

Another thing; All girls have this one thing in common: If they like a guy enough, they will do anything for him. I'm sure that extends to wanting to have sex a lot. So if you meet one and she wants to make love a lot or whatever and that bothers you, just think about what else she has done for you that isn't money related, she may not be one of the bad bunch!




Sigh...three letters away from a perfect unedited post.
Razael
If there is one thing I have learned in this world is that women like to be played with. Its true, all that crap starting with courting and trying to woo them, its all a game for them which we have to play.

In my 23 years, going on to 24 in july, I have now become a cynical bastard, this objectification I have towards women as just boobs with legs did not come naturally you know. Around november was the time the last drop hit the cup, I actually wanted to give women a chance by then.

I was courting this chick who seemed like she was corresponding with my approaches and everything until i flat out told her I was interested in her. Sure I might not actually cared for her and she just seemed like a hot piece of ass to brag with friends about, but sometimes I liked her personality even though she could be kinda dense sometimes. Nevertheless she turned me down. Around march this year i went to her bday and saw her making out with her ex who had been cheating on her during their relationship and that was basically the reason they broke up.

She wasnt even drunk. So around that time I decided that women are pretty much #####, they like the guy that would cheat on them, who wont respect them. I dont know whats wrong with them really. I also decided that I was gonna eventually get her drunk and sodomize her while I videotape it because yes, I am bitter.

Sometime ago I read this article about why women date ####### and that how its not because they are ####### that they date them but because they have confidence and crap. Well, #####, I am an insanely narcissistic ##### but I am after all a gentleman, and thats basically whats separating me from those ####### who get the girls. Well that and a popped collar but I will never wear a popped collar, thats just retarded.

Now I am not saying I am gonna go and be a huge ##### now but I will no longer care for women's feelings, they certainly dont care about ours, so ##### em.
Ibanez Player
QUOTE (AbYsS @ May 25 2008, 01:56 PM) *
its not a TRAP!


Jerame
QUOTE (Shion @ May 25 2008, 07:23 PM) *
I haven't dated in so long now but been friends with enough to know what "kind" of girls to steer clear from in the dating department. Your standard run of the mill BORING, always pissy girl is 100% likely to get bored of YOU and will go ##### around with other people. You will get cockblocked on a dime and she will only come to you when she needs something. Phone calls will all be about "what she needs" and will hardly call to see how you're doing. I wanna say, on the first bogus phone call you get, it's time to think about breaking up.

The "Girls with the guy on the side" - bad news, there. Less likely to call you as they are hanging with the sideguy.

"Rebound girls" just want to be with somebody, while still hoping to get back with the other man. You will hardly be on their mind and when "the ex bf" starts popping up in conversations, GTFO of there fast. And the girls that like ####### and hate nice guys. To put it bluntly, being cussed back, or slapped to the point of domestic violence is exciting apparently.

Then there is the scorned ones who just want to get back at the species for whatever wrong a man has done to them. Speaking on that, yes it can be said that we men are at fault and there is the saying that good girls learn how to be ####### from men. I see it myself, there is more out there these days who just wanna sleep around, but there is still some normal ones out there who, similar to your situation, is looking for "that man who doesn't just want to #####" and wants to be loved real deal. You have to find them. You might go through many girls before finding the one but you will find her.

Another thing; All girls have this one thing in common: If they like a guy enough, they will do anything for him. I'm sure that extends to wanting to have sex a lot. So if you meet one and she wants to make love a lot or whatever and that bothers you, just think about what else she has done for you that isn't money related, she may not be one of the bad bunch!




Sigh...three letters away from a perfect unedited post.



You seem to know some ##### lol

I just can't find a woman who thinks eye-to-eye with me. I think that people find me too hypersensitive, serious, and caring for my age. #####, maybe I am? Or maybe they just don't know me well enough? I like to joke around and have fun, but I also like to be in control of my personal well-being, because I do well for myself and don't want to be played. I'm only serious because someone's gotta cut the fun every once in awhile and get down to business. The women that I hang out with do not understand my maturity. It seems that their only goal in life is to have fun at whoever's expense.

I've thought about dating older women. What do they call them now --- 'Cougars'? But I can get older women to take me seriously, because they think I'm too young. I feel like I'm ##### trapped in purgatory or some #####.

And about finding a girl who wants to make love a lot -- #####, the women I've met are lazy as hell. I wish I could find a woman that would jump all over me, but the 'expect' you to do all the work and carry the burden. I just don't understand why they are so ##### stupid.
Ken Masters
Jerame word of advice, 80% of most women you'll meet in life are bitches. Furthermore, it helps being a bit nice to them once in awhile but stay true to what you value (being yourself, etc). Plus it helps if set your expectations of women are a bit lowered, after all we can't find that "perfect girl" we heterosexual men are looking for.
Crimson Cloud
My colleague at work is a really nice guy but he had a worse luck to marry a girl who twists him around her finger. Worse case scenario is that she works with him here. Dude, if I haven't seen them I would though that men were the worst beings on earth. She orders him to bring the price list (for example) from few inches away from her while he is in another room. She tells him what to eat and when she tells him to shut up he will do so. I asked him why he married her and he answered that she loves her. Man, I would kill a bitch like that.

As for me, I had a failed crush with the girl that was using me. But that was few years back, now I'm smarter to tell a difference between girls. Well actually, at my place there aren't much different ones. Every girl I met likes good-looking muscular guys with no brains with lot's of cash and big wallet.

Sleeping with girl is a natural part of life, but I need one who cares for me and with who I can share interests. I'm not looking for one right now though, because solitude is a also a great thing.
Pesmerga
You have been in some crappy situations, but please keep in mind, that in a relationship, you do have to give in yourself as well.
It isn't simply: "I have a girlfriend now, I am done", you'll have to sacrfice things to make it work.
You can't do whatever you want, you'll have to adapt yourself.
Phisix
QUOTE (Razael @ May 25 2008, 08:11 PM) *
Sometime ago I read this article about why women date ####### and that how its not because they are ####### that they date them but because they have confidence and crap. Well, #####, I am an insanely narcissistic ##### but I am after all a gentleman, and thats basically whats separating me from those ####### who get the girls. Well that and a popped collar but I will never wear a popped collar, thats just retarded.


When it comes to girls I have been a gentleman, but they seem to not want it. I always hear girls who moan about their boyfriends not doing this and not being like that, but when they finally get it face to face they dont want it. I cant physically be a prick to girls so I will just continue to be myself and be a gentleman like I always am.

There is an odd few who do though.
Natsuki
I'm kind of fed up that a fair few guys here who have actually made the same type of topic you've just done. Maybe if you stop and think about what you're doing instead of coming onto a game forum complaining about how a girl "messed" with you, you might consider going out and finding a decent one that doesn't do that to you.

Dude, EVERY FEMALE is different get that through your head first. Just because you met one that doesn't suit you doesn't mean that we're all like that.

I am actually offended that you even used the words "bitches" and "hoes". Maybe if you didn't used those words to refer to a female, one might respect you.

You're 24 (according to your profile) and complaining about girl problems on the internet, that says alot to a girl already.

Just chill out. I'm sure if someone out there is right enough for you, they'll come along eventually. Though, I doubt they'll be into a guy that criticises the entire female population just because of one bad experience, so just let the anger go already and move on.

and I'm not just saying this to you. I'm saying this to ALL guys that feel like crap when one girl played with them and decided to rant about it online.
Raisha
Okay I am not a dude(at least I'd hope not) but I see where you are coming from. Women can be heartless because some of us think we can run you over and you can stand up and still be fine. A lot of girls just don't get that even though we do get hurt a lot, guys get hurt the hardest. Guys have to ask the girl out, pay for food, try and be everything she wants, and try not to set off the ticking time bomb inside of her. some of us can be heartless but there are some that aren't, don't group me in with the fake ones luv.

Frankly, I respect every guy out there just because they have to put up with our BS all the time and yes I am being completely serious so to the gentlemen out there...I give you your props because you are probably one of the strongest.

That was my two cents.
Jerame
QUOTE (Natsuki @ May 26 2008, 08:35 AM) *
and I'm not just saying this to you. I'm saying this to ALL guys that feel like crap when one girl played with them and decided to rant about it online.


One woman? Try dozens hun. This is not my first rodeo with cruel women. If all women are not heartless bitches, I would like to meet one that isn't.

Yes, I rant on message boards about women because writing about it helps me clear negative emotions. This is the way I feel about women, and apparently I have no need to feel ashamed, because I'm not the only guy out there who has to wrestle with his own feelings vs. his own biology.

I don't call women bitches outta disrepect -- I call them bitches outta their disrespect for ME.
Noonstalker
In a mean way, fcuk and chuck and you will get what you want. I kid I kid. For me it takes time to find out what I want. I've only had 2 major relationships and I have a general idea of what I want for my ideal woman. It takes time to find someone like that, I would say yes. But then you will have the ones that will circle you out of a crowd. Just go with your heart and that way you know you did the right choice.
The Evil Dead
Winnie with the bitchslap. Shazam.
cloudycat
QUOTE (Jerame @ May 26 2008, 09:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Natsuki @ May 26 2008, 08:35 AM) *
and I'm not just saying this to you. I'm saying this to ALL guys that feel like crap when one girl played with them and decided to rant about it online.


One woman? Try dozens hun. This is not my first rodeo with cruel women. If all women are not heartless bitches, I would like to meet one that isn't.

Yes, I rant on message boards about women because writing about it helps me clear negative emotions. This is the way I feel about women, and apparently I have no need to feel ashamed, because I'm not the only guy out there who has to wrestle with his own feelings vs. his own biology.

I don't call women bitches outta disrepect -- I call them bitches outta their disrespect for ME.



You've let yourself get hurt by DOZENS of women? Does that mean that pretty much every girl you've been with you were either in or looking for a relationship? It's sounds a bit like you've let yourself get a bit too involved.

The heartless thing works both ways bro. I mean I was hurt after a relationship ending (after six years when I was aged 15-21) but after that I did a fair share of messing women around too because I wasn't interested in a relationship with any of the girls I met in a 2-3 year time period despite what they may have wanted - Yep I just used them and slept around a fair bit and just had fun with no strings a lot of the girls I've been with were only looking for one-nighters themselves anyway. So I suppose I am trying to say is we can all be the same so don't go looking for then next relationship just get out there and have a laugh until you finally do meet a girl that's right for you and there's plenty of time (trust me it'll happen when it happens) that way you get to live a bit and not get hurt in the process because it sounds like that's what's happened to you but the other way round these girls were probably just not ready.
Valince
QUOTE (Raisha @ May 26 2008, 11:58 AM) *
<Awesome stuff she said>

I'll be seeing you on the 4th week of next month.

QUOTE (Jerame @ This month, today, this year, whatever time: it is now PM)
<GIRLS ARE MAKING ME MAD >:E>


Meh, older women looking down on <30 yr olds? Again, some will but not all.

Oh almost forgot..

Suggestion: Give your heart a break. It sounds like you've been moving from relationship to relationship with no breaks in between. The stress from bad ones will build up quickly like that.
Loomis
MARRY ME WINNIE.
Voyou San
it is not supposed to be easy to find someone that sees things the way you do.. we all cheat, we all mess up. Neither side does it more than the other.

just relax, have fun and the right person will come along... no point in getting worked up about it and really no pointing in attacking the entire female race, thats just setting you up to be very lonely. If you try to lump everyone together, you end up pushing people away and then you end up missing out on someone worth it.
Theferrell
My take as a guy whose almost at "game over" from the dating game.

Ok, maybe I'm just the "guy whose lived in the Utah Bubble for too long" guy, but I really think that a good place to start would be language... possibly.

But ya, There's plenty of girls who really DON"T know what they want. Example: Fiance's roomate comes home from a date, and she is all uptight about it. We ask why. She says, "Well, I really don't like the guy that much, but I let him cuddle with me while we were watching the movie. I shouldn't have, but it felt soo nice...." (and cuddling means cuddling, not sex) So, she basically gave him all the wrong signs all because she wanted an arm around her.

My last relationship went for 7 months, and then ended up breaking up so she could just marry my best friend like 4 months later. I don't hate her (nor him) for it, I just know that they were better for each other than her and I were. Always look for things to learn from dating, not reasons to hate.

I get what you're saying for always being the "super-sensitive guy". That's who I am (although some people may not agree on this forum...) But, I found a great girl who loves me for all who "I" am. Video games, yo-yo's, astrojax and all. They DO exist, contrary to popular belief, and I know that you'll find someone AWESOME some day.

Like I always say. If one girl ends up not working, no matter how wonderful she is, there is someone out there that's better, smarter, and will love you more than the last one did. Hope that helps.
king of sin
QUOTE (Jerame @ May 26 2008, 01:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Natsuki @ May 26 2008, 08:35 AM) *
and I'm not just saying this to you. I'm saying this to ALL guys that feel like crap when one girl played with them and decided to rant about it online.


One woman? Try dozens hun. This is not my first rodeo with cruel women. If all women are not heartless bitches, I would like to meet one that isn't.

Yes, I rant on message boards about women because writing about it helps me clear negative emotions. This is the way I feel about women, and apparently I have no need to feel ashamed, because I'm not the only guy out there who has to wrestle with his own feelings vs. his own biology.

I don't call women bitches outta disrepect -- I call them bitches outta their disrespect for ME.

man i to feel your pain, i was so gone for this chick that she almost cleaned out my bank account! but thanks to my jealous sister, i was still able to pay my tuition. oh yeah, if your family members ever tried to break you up with someone, consider why cus they might see something you dont. think about what everyone says instead of assuming jealousy all the time cus you never know, you could be saved.
Raisha
QUOTE (Theferrell @ May 27 2008, 07:01 AM) *
My take as a guy whose almost at "game over" from the dating game.

Ok, maybe I'm just the "guy whose lived in the Utah Bubble for too long" guy, but I really think that a good place to start would be language... possibly.

But ya, There's plenty of girls who really DON"T know what they want. Example: Fiance's roomate comes home from a date, and she is all uptight about it. We ask why. She says, "Well, I really don't like the guy that much, but I let him cuddle with me while we were watching the movie. I shouldn't have, but it felt soo nice...." (and cuddling means cuddling, not sex) So, she basically gave him all the wrong signs all because she wanted an arm around her.

My last relationship went for 7 months, and then ended up breaking up so she could just marry my best friend like 4 months later. I don't hate her (nor him) for it, I just know that they were better for each other than her and I were. Always look for things to learn from dating, not reasons to hate.

I get what you're saying for always being the "super-sensitive guy". That's who I am (although some people may not agree on this forum...) But, I found a great girl who loves me for all who "I" am. Video games, yo-yo's, astrojax and all. They DO exist, contrary to popular belief, and I know that you'll find someone AWESOME some day.

Like I always say. If one girl ends up not working, no matter how wonderful she is, there is someone out there that's better, smarter, and will love you more than the last one did. Hope that helps.


Ha agreed! Okay, I will admit to having done that once or twice but at my school since we are so close, I just kind of cuddled with random guys rather they had girlfriends or not because their girlfriends knew me and knew I was doing it and didn't care. That is the kind of close net school I came from(wah just graduated) so cheating for us would be like kissing on some other significant other or whatnot. Although at the same time, the guys were like my big overprotective brothers so anything I did wouldn't be taken as anything but me being who I am which is little sister.

Now my boyfriend is possibly the best guy to come along as far as I am concerned. He's sweet, nice, compassionate, poetic yet not a wimp because he gets in more trouble than any other guy I've fallen for. However believe it or not, I used to get so annoyed with him and probably cussed him out more than I should have but he stuck beside me through all my little mood swings. My point in saying this: The girl for you is out there and you will get frustrated just like I got frustrated when I kept getting the 'little sister' tag but you have got to stop looking for her. Let her come to you because that is usually how it works the more you look, the more mistakes you are likely to make. Fate will do its job but its your job to be the best guy you can be.

Don't worry, she's out there and will love ya like a dog loves steak.

-another two cents inserted-
Dr Whippy
I figured 'heatless bitches' wasn't going off on a slightly odd tangent like i'd hoped. Instead I come in to see childish out bursts from naive individuals too obsessed with their own self pity to see a bigger picture.
Yes i am saying grow up, get over it, etc etc. Life isn't fair, and in time one would hope you'll see that a vast majority of the population that doesn't include yourself already know that and deal with it. Don't begin to tell me I have no idea what you've been through because i'm sure i've been through a lot more, though i have the dignity not to go on an on and on about it.
First off, by the way you address women as bitches and hoes is a good indication to me as to what kind of shallow minded individual you may be, aside from the fact you mentioned you're not a nice person anyway. Logic would dictate from there that you would attract similar company, hense a possible explanation as to why you're in your current predicament.
Secondly saying ALL women are "bitchz and h0'z" is a gross generalization, again probably not a big winner with the fairer sex.
I'm not exactly trying to be mean here, just realistic. These things do happen, they tend to make you stronger and smarter too - take a positive out of this.
Just chill out, it's all good and well to grieve, but do it in your own time and space - save the outbursts for something a little more meaningful like....world peace and the lack there of...or something.
Loomis
I think from the way he makes it sound, he's only going after one type of woman, and sadly one that falls in the mentality that doesn't really support mutual concern? tongue.gif
Valince
Frankly I'm shocked nobody has jumped on the typo in the topic title XD.

My whole two ex girlfriends didn't end well. One didn't love me and just wanted to #####, so she went for a guy who wanted to do that only. Years later, she's paying for it. Met a guy who got her pregnant and then he abandoned her. The other was a freak that I found out the hard way. The "would bes" were girls who didn't wont mutual conversations. Leave me on hold or would hardly call, or call and it's for like 2-3min. Having dealt with that for a couple of years, man did I have some hate and bitterness towards women. Being alone sucks, but I'm glad I don't have to put up with that mess sometimes.
Nocinderella
Eh, really not a fan of the 'bitches and hoes' generalisation there... especially in a place where it might, no wait will, no wait has offended. But nevertheless I'll offer some advice anyway, because it does sound like you need it.

From what I've heard you've found some ladies who a) have made you so incredibly unhappy that you are now disgusted with the entire female race or b ) are victims of some internal trouble or unresolved issues within yourself that has doomed all of your relationships from day one.

In the case of a) I recommend seeing what they all had in common so you know what to look out for. It sounds like you've been going through the same thing with most chicks so try and find someone who's a bit different from the others. In the case of b ) take a step back from relationships and cut down on the one-nighters to re-evaluate your life and how you can make yourself happy without someone else.

Whatever you do, try and keep a poistive outlook on things, I know you want girls to love you for you, but a bitter, self-destructive shauvanist is just asking for a bit too much. It's true, girls do love a guy with confidence, just don't turn into a cocky prick about it.

And to the guys emptying your bank accounts for your girlfriends, please stop. It is nice to be spoiled every now and then but a partnership means sharing. I shout lunch and dinner just as much as my boyfriend does. And if he insists on buying uber expensive gifts, I do my best to match him.

<3 gentlemenly men by the way.

EDIT: apparently doing b ) without the space makes this cool.gif
Dr Whippy
I sooooo pointed out that typo shion lol!
It's why I even bothered looking at the topic "Heatless bitches....wth does THAT mean? Sounds interesting! Lets see...blah blah blah....oh man it's just some kid whinning...."
Spanky
Well, I decided to pop my head into this thread and read some of the responses. I was quite amazed at what some people wrote. Then I knew I just had to post. xD

Well, what seems to be happening here is that you are looking for chicks in all the wrong places. You have a certain group of friends and with that certain group comes a sort of 'mold' for the women that hang out around you. As they say 'like things attract'. That or you visit the same bars and clubs over and over. If you keep meeting the same girls over and over then stop looking in the same places. The places that you are looking don't have too many of the type of girl that you are looking for. Now I could be wrong, God knows I am alot of the time.

Try hanging out somewhere else... make some new friends. I defiantly would stay away from the bars and clubs, lol. Typical(and I say typical because not all women) women that frequent bars and clubs are looking for a nice stud like man with money and/or a one night stand... it is just what I have experienced in my short time from the majority of the women in those places. That is why if you are 'hot' and look like you have money but treat the women like #####, they still want to date/screw you.

My honest opinion is that if you really want that special relationship, is to stop really looking... Yes I said stop. Why? Because the most meaningful and best relationships I have ever had have sprouted from out of no where. Meeting a girl while filling up the car with gas, at the airport waiting for a flight, and a few other instances where it was just random and kinda dropped in my lap.

Why does it work? Because you aren't really being critical of women at that time because you are just doing your day to day things. You then meet a woman who is someone that you can talk to and get along with without either one of you wanting anything from each other at first. The woman is likely not to be on of the types that is on the prowl for a money bags or a stud. Basically just let life run its course. I think the whole go to bars and clubs to find your significant other, is ruining our society. People think they like the other person and even may end up marrying but all they really want is the status of the relationship. You can't rush love. You will find someone and it may happen in the most mysterious way.

Also keep in mind that rarely is any relationship going to last long. Even if it was perfect for you it may not be for another. Just takes time.. Trust me life has a way of working things out. I have learned that throughout my short time on this earth. And always look on the bright side, having a woman use you isn't that bad. You could not have any women interested in you at all. Or you could be all alone with absolutely no human contact whatsoever.

I know this may have been spotty and all over the place... probably didn't make any sense. But hey... I just got off of a 14 hour shift and I'm tired and the ambien is kicking in.. thank god for free ambien from the VA! happy.gif
Noonstalker
Spanky havent seen you in awhile!
Jerame
QUOTE (Loomis @ May 29 2008, 03:03 AM) *
I think from the way he makes it sound, he's only going after one type of woman, and sadly one that falls in the mentality that doesn't really support mutual concern? tongue.gif


Well, I suspose you've heard my whole life-story then, haven't you? I've dated many types of women -- every woman that I have been with HAS USED ME FOR MY MONEY. I've even dated kind-hearted self-sufficient women that were too stupid to hold onto a dollar and expected me to pick up thier tab.

Trust me, I've learned from trial and numerous errors, that no matter how sweet, caring, and frugal a woman may be; in the end, they all want to have whatever you've got. If you've got it, and you are stupid enough to 'share' it with them, they will grab it from you until they find better.

Women have that distinct advantage, because most men will allow their dicks to trump their common sense. It's been our pitfall since the beginning of man.

EDIT: What's with the 'heatless bitches' thing? I'm reading my browser, and I'm pretty sure it does say heartless. tongue.gif
True Rune
I don't know, I have a filter for those types..women who are mean or stupid I just...go away, or know my limits. But I'm not a romantic nor a sexual person, so I guess I'm in a whole different world than you guys. I've met plenty of respectable women, but I don't think they'd be too interested in sex before marriage. I can't help you or ever understand, it's a blessing and a curse at times. I get along better with women.
-Vincent-
QUOTE (Natsuki @ May 26 2008, 06:35 PM) *
Dude, EVERY FEMALE is different get that through your head first.


No, all are the same. Not exactly the same of course, but still the same. It goes both ways: for men and for women. Society makes them the same. Society poisons them into being stereotypes. Society has some platitudinous standards for both genders and both genders try to fulfill those standards like mindless cattle. All in all, we're all the same.
Jerame
QUOTE (-Vincent- @ May 30 2008, 01:24 AM) *
QUOTE (Natsuki @ May 26 2008, 06:35 PM) *
Dude, EVERY FEMALE is different get that through your head first.


No, all are the same. Not exactly the same of course, but still the same. It goes both ways: for men and for women. Society makes them the same. Society poisons them into being stereotypes. Society has some platitudinous standards for both genders and both genders try to fulfill those standards like mindless cattle. All in all, we're all the same.


Finally, somebody here gets what I've been trying to say ;)

If you believe in all that 'sunny fairy-tale' #####, you have not been out in the real world very long. I did not post this rant as a call-to-arms for pissed-off high-school nerds. I posted this rant as a way to express my feelings in a non-threatening way, and to maybe give a few others that outlet as well.

Call me loony, but this ##### is actually theraputic to me. This ... and maybe a joint or two .. laugh.gif
Noir
Then I guess I just imagined several of my friends. Thank you all for enlightening me to the true ways of the world. In your extra 2 and 5 years you have become so wise.

Edit, maybe you just like guys? Nothing wrong with that.
Jerame
QUOTE (Noir @ May 30 2008, 03:52 AM) *
Then I guess I just imagined several of my friends. Thank you all for enlightening me to the true ways of the world. In your extra 2 and 5 years you have become so wise.

Edit, maybe you just like guys? Nothing wrong with that.


Maturity is gained through hardship Noir. I'm only 24, but I was not babied through college by rich parents. Everything I have in my life was earned through hard-ass work, and vice-versa, everything I've lost was earned through hard work as well. I've cried and sweat many tears, and I wish that was a lie. My poker hand just never seems to bank the pot. I'm not whining about it; I will move on and find my way, this topic was just to relieve harsh feelings. Everyone needs a good release in troubled times.

You think I'm GAY? laugh.gif Actually I'm bi-sexual with a stronger attraction to women. I don't mind mingling with gay guys though, they are some of the most heart-felt caring lovers I've met. Don't believe that sissy-bitch 'Queer-Eye' stereotype -- you'd be suprised to find how many 'normal macho' guys who have closet affection for the same sex. I've slept with two before.
Natsuki
QUOTE (Jerame @ May 26 2008, 08:43 PM) *
QUOTE (Natsuki @ May 26 2008, 08:35 AM) *
and I'm not just saying this to you. I'm saying this to ALL guys that feel like crap when one girl played with them and decided to rant about it online.


One woman? Try dozens hun. This is not my first rodeo with cruel women. If all women are not heartless bitches, I would like to meet one that isn't.

Yes, I rant on message boards about women because writing about it helps me clear negative emotions. This is the way I feel about women, and apparently I have no need to feel ashamed, because I'm not the only guy out there who has to wrestle with his own feelings vs. his own biology.

I don't call women bitches outta disrepect -- I call them bitches outta their disrespect for ME.

Have I disrespected you in anyway before this topic? Maybe after my post you feel like I have, but I was only saying what I think of this "issue" of yours.

Out of the gazillions of people in the world, I highly doubt you've even had a "fair" share of ALL the types of women that are out there. I'd like to say that I'm not a heartless girl that goes after a guy just for their money so generalising ALL women to be that way is offensive to me.


QUOTE (Jerame @ May 30 2008, 09:42 AM) *
QUOTE (-Vincent- @ May 30 2008, 01:24 AM) *
QUOTE (Natsuki @ May 26 2008, 06:35 PM) *
Dude, EVERY FEMALE is different get that through your head first.


Finally, somebody here gets what I've been trying to say ;)

If you believe in all that 'sunny fairy-tale' #####, you have not been out in the real world very long. I did not post this rant as a call-to-arms for pissed-off high-school nerds. I posted this rant as a way to express my feelings in a non-threatening way, and to maybe give a few others that outlet as well.

Call me loony, but this ##### is actually theraputic to me. This ... and maybe a joint or two .. laugh.gif
No, all are the same. Not exactly the same of course, but still the same. It goes both ways: for men and for women. Society makes them the same. Society poisons them into being stereotypes. Society has some platitudinous standards for both genders and both genders try to fulfill those standards like mindless cattle. All in all, we're all the same.
I was referring to personality. NO-ONE has the same personality, it doesn't matter if they grew up together, everyone is different therefore all females are different. Generalising them just says that there's no hope in the world that anyone will find someone they like/love and my friends have happily been with each other for more than 5 years.

From that, you can say I believe in your so called "sunny fairy-tale' #####". But if you agree that all women are the same in the world, then there's no hope for you whatsoever of finding someone you love whom would love you back and not "use you for your money".

There are SOME decent females out there and I'm telling you that if you quit ranting about the bad ones you've been with online then you might find one.

QUOTE (Loomis @ May 27 2008, 01:02 AM) *
MARRY ME WINNIE.
I DO ;D
Noir
QUOTE (Jerame @ May 30 2008, 03:20 PM) *
QUOTE (Noir @ May 30 2008, 03:52 AM) *
Then I guess I just imagined several of my friends. Thank you all for enlightening me to the true ways of the world. In your extra 2 and 5 years you have become so wise.

Edit, maybe you just like guys? Nothing wrong with that.


Maturity is gained through hardship Noir. I'm only 24, but I was not babied through college by rich parents. Everything I have in my life was earned through hard-ass work, and vice-versa, everything I've lost was earned through hard work as well. I've cried and sweat many tears, and I wish that was a lie. My poker hand just never seems to bank the pot. I'm not whining about it; I will move on and find my way, this topic was just to relieve harsh feelings. Everyone needs a good release in troubled times.

You think I'm GAY? laugh.gif Actually I'm bi-sexual with a stronger attraction to women. I don't mind mingling with gay guys though, they are some of the most heart-felt caring lovers I've met. Don't believe that sissy-bitch 'Queer-Eye' stereotype -- you'd be suprised to find how many 'normal macho' guys who have closet affection for the same sex. I've slept with two before.


No need to point out the obvious to me, it's not like I'm some extremely sheltered 12 year old. You sweat tears though? What a sensitive man. tongue.gif

And I know many gay men, so I know very well that that is a stupid stereotype. Hell, I love being around gay people, I don't have to hear, "Check out that bitches' ass dude, ##### sweet huhuhuhu".

But back to the topic at hand, I know a lot of women share some similarities, because their brains do work a little differently (not better or worse imo, just differently) than the brain of a man. But you saying that every single woman acts the same in some way is kind of stupid, so do men. The generalization of women always annoys me because of my girlfriend though, because she is quite obviously proof that not all women are the same. I mean how many girls do you meet what will see a girl walking around in her little jeans that she bought with the tears on them, and their their two sizes too small band shirts, and she'll just stand there and be like, "What a ##### attention whore, holy #####".

Then again, I'm sure you know there are girls who completely stray from your stereotype. Pretty hard to be alive and not.
Jerame
QUOTE (Noir @ May 31 2008, 04:16 AM) *
QUOTE (Jerame @ May 30 2008, 03:20 PM) *
QUOTE (Noir @ May 30 2008, 03:52 AM) *
Then I guess I just imagined several of my friends. Thank you all for enlightening me to the true ways of the world. In your extra 2 and 5 years you have become so wise.

Edit, maybe you just like guys? Nothing wrong with that.


Maturity is gained through hardship Noir. I'm only 24, but I was not babied through college by rich parents. Everything I have in my life was earned through hard-ass work, and vice-versa, everything I've lost was earned through hard work as well. I've cried and sweat many tears, and I wish that was a lie. My poker hand just never seems to bank the pot. I'm not whining about it; I will move on and find my way, this topic was just to relieve harsh feelings. Everyone needs a good release in troubled times.

You think I'm GAY? laugh.gif Actually I'm bi-sexual with a stronger attraction to women. I don't mind mingling with gay guys though, they are some of the most heart-felt caring lovers I've met. Don't believe that sissy-bitch 'Queer-Eye' stereotype -- you'd be suprised to find how many 'normal macho' guys who have closet affection for the same sex. I've slept with two before.


No need to point out the obvious to me, it's not like I'm some extremely sheltered 12 year old. You sweat tears though? What a sensitive man. tongue.gif



Yeah, I'm pretty sensitive, but I don't put up with any ##### either. I'm as soft or hard as you make me become.

laugh.gif I just realized the induendo there.
Cel-shaded Dreams
Wow, what a cheery bunch of people you are!

Also if 80% of women are bitches, then 80% of men are bastards.

The kind of female behaviour some people are ranting about is the kind of behaviour that men get away with day to day and is seen as relatively normal (well it was.) It just seems more surprising when a female does it because we've only fairly recently had the chance to. For example, the "Ladette" culture only really came about in the 90's.

Just think of all the ass grabbing, staring down tops, wolfwhistles when minding their own business that women get and is to be "expected" and considered the norm when a girl goes out. We get played for sex a lot, I don't think it's that surprising that after going through that kind of treatment more women are doing the same.
Nocinderella
QUOTE (Cel-shaded Dreams @ Jun 2 2008, 09:43 AM) *
Wow, what a cheery bunch of people you are!
............I don't think it's that surprising that after going through that kind of treatment more women are doing the same.



I really like this new person, please don't go away happy.gif
Valince
Wolfwhistling?

(maybe I don't wanna know..)
Jerame
QUOTE (Shion @ Jun 1 2008, 08:35 PM) *
Wolfwhistling?
(maybe I don't wanna know..)


I guess this is what guys do when attractive women walk by. We're all mindless animals that crave the hottest pussy we can spot. I think this is definitely true when are DRUNK ... but most guys have the class to avoid this with a stable mind.

Unfortunately, I'm not most guys .... laugh.gif
Valince
I know what it is. I didn't think people actually did that and was just a cartoon thing.
Cel-shaded Dreams
QUOTE (Shion @ Jun 2 2008, 07:37 PM) *
I know what it is. I didn't think people actually did that and was just a cartoon thing.



Try walking past a construction site at any time of day even sans alcohol T_T
AbYsS
QUOTE (Jerame @ May 30 2008, 12:38 AM) *
Trust me, I've learned from trial and numerous errors, that no matter how sweet, caring, and frugal a woman may be; in the end, they all want to have whatever you've got. If you've got it, and you are stupid enough to 'share' it with them, they will grab it from you until they find better.



Seriously, as someone said earlier, just grow the #### up. If all women are the same, so are all men, meaning all you want is endless sex, all you are is an immature idiot, and whatever else is the common thing to say "All men are ____"
And stop being so stuck on yourself too.

If you want respect, you need to give it first. Acting like you're gods greatest gift to the world, puh-lease. I am sure you've not dated that many women, and if you have, they are probably all the same type that act. besides that Maybe they see how much of a dick you are and thats why the women you have been with have all just taken from you, might as well GET SOMETHING out of a relationship with an ass so it dont seem like nothing but a waste of time.

ugh I suck at making my point but whatever.



QUOTE (Cel-shaded Dreams @ Jun 1 2008, 01:43 PM) *
Wow, what a cheery bunch of people you are!

Also if 80% of women are bitches, then 80% of men are bastards.

The kind of female behaviour some people are ranting about is the kind of behaviour that men get away with day to day and is seen as relatively normal (well it was.) It just seems more surprising when a female does it because we've only fairly recently had the chance to. For example, the "Ladette" culture only really came about in the 90's.

Just think of all the ass grabbing, staring down tops, wolfwhistles when minding their own business that women get and is to be "expected" and considered the norm when a girl goes out. We get played for sex a lot, I don't think it's that surprising that after going through that kind of treatment more women are doing the same.


and I agree with you very much so. :/ I would tell those construction workers to stfu.
-Vincent-
QUOTE (AbYsS @ Jun 2 2008, 11:08 PM) *
I would tell those construction workers to stfu.


Then dress like a muslim.
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