ok so ive never been much of a Terminator fan, well i liked the 2nd one but that was it.. Well i am def. on the lookout now for Terminator 4 (due out next year) now that i have found out Christian Bale has been cast as John Conner in the upcoming film. Details below..

I haven’t seen any of the previous one (I think they’re R, actually, so that’d probably be why), but regardless of that I can’t say I’m really interested in this one. Assuming it’s one that I could’ve seen (ie: not R), I’d probably skip it. Just my opinion though...

If arnold aint in it I aint seeing it.

He was the best.
Ill be that big one day.

Sigh. I've surived Rise of Machines, Rocky, Rambo, and now a new Indie Jones flick. When will the ##### dust settle?

Bale will not work for me in any other role beside Batman. Sorry, but he is now typecasted by me. Josh Brolin CAN'T fill Arnie's shoes, and Arnie is way too flabby and timid for the role anymore. If the above-mentioned #####-flicks have taught me anything, it's that sometimes it's best to let sleeping-dogs ##### lie --- or DIE for that matter.

Terminator 3 was okay but was nothing compared to Terminator 2. Hopefully this is the last one to tie it off as the series is starting to get stale now, but casting Bale of John Connor will work, imo. I had heard a long time ago that they wanted to use Arnie again, but as Jerame stated that maybe a bad thing. If they could find someone who could fill in that game then it may work. (The Terminator in the TV series did not seem hard or scary at all, so they need to actually try)

you are wrong my good sir, Bale will work in any role you put him in, check out anyone of his movies and you will not be disappointed.

Agreed. Bale has been great in every movie I have seen him in, and he does it well. He thought he was awesome in Equilibrium.

Uh... ##### Patrick Bateman? Grammaton Cleric John Preston? Magician Alfred Borden? Western Gun Dan Evans? Jim Luther Davis in Harsh Times? All very different performances.

Sorry but he's multitalented and Batman didn't show me anything more other than how versatile Bale is.

I know I wouldn't get too many props on this one

I liked him as Alfred Borden, but that was in the pasted, I look at Keaton, Kilmer, and Clooney --- and after they took the batsuit, it was the pits for them. Maybe Bale will put out some better work than them, but I tell you that the role is cursed. I could be wrong, but it'll have to be proven.

well Kilmer did fine at batman, he is a great actor.. but Clooney and keaton were not that great to begin with or so i think..

but back on topic!!

do you think the movie will be fine without Arnold?

No, I don't think you can take a film trilogy that banks off starpower and replace the star actor. There's a slim chance it can be done, but the expectations are set VERY HIGH.

I think it's a hollywood no-no to ##### with tight-pack trilogies.

Kilmer and Clooney still have huge acting careers. What do you mean it's the pits?

Keaton I'll agree with you on. Worst. Batman. Ever. Plus his career speaks volumes for his acting talents.

Certainly sir, you are jesting, the worst batman is without any doubt George Clooney.

And Bale is probably the best actor of his generation, the dude was even awesome when he did Empire of the Sun and every role he makes its different. He can play Patrick Bateman and also the dude from Laurel Canyon and then Borden, a role I must say he played the ##### out, I have never wanted to see Hugh Jackman die so bad, even though I once saw 20 minutes of Kate and Leopold, man was that movie stupid, I hate Meg Ryan, then she does this movie where she is nude and ##### that guy who was the main love interest in that horrible movie Jennifer Gardner did copying Big.

Oh and I am so gonna be there on opening day for this movie, Bale might just save us after the piece of crap that they gave us as a third movie.

Guys. You know what would make Terminator 4 great? If Steven Seagal was the Terminator. I mean, consider the mother ###### before you make judgements. He's got the same body type as Arnold, better fighting skills than Arnold, had probably been in as many movies as Arnold where he was a ##### badass (and I don't think he ever got pregnant or taught a kindergarten class, actually I'm not sure about the last one). I mean sure, we're used to old Arnie tearing out his eye and wearing quintessential eighties sunglasses well into 2000s, but still.

Or Chuck Norris.

I don't understand why they can't just use Edward Furlong, I'm tired of movies they have one role played by several different actors.

Probably because he's stiff as ##### in T3?

i actually liked Edward Furlong in his role of these movies. its just too bad T3 was terrible.

They cant use Furlong because he is a dope fiend

Actually, I'm sorry, Edward Furlong wasn't even in T3, I was thinking of Nick Stahl.

;

Edward Furlong was alright in T2.

your right.. damn i was not thinking...

I haven't seen Kilmer in a solid flick since 'Batman Forever'. Clooney was popular on TV with ER, but after that show expired, he didn't do any knock-out films of his own. He did that one 1930s bank robbery movie -- that was alright, but not great to me. He also did the 'Ocean' movies, but they were so-so and banked more on other big-name stars besides Clooney.

What's the last GOOD action flick you've seen either Kilmer or Clooney do since their roles as Batman?

And Keaton was no doubt a ##### grandized hack for sure. His talent for anything other than second-rate family comedies was ##### in the toilet. I thought the Keaton family already had ONE OTHER talented female actress? LOL, be a ##### man!





Keaton and Clooney sucked dick as Batman. Kilmer was the only solid one of the bunch. I don't know if I could pick a worst between them. That's like trying to award a gold medal in a vomit contest.


Bale was good as Borden, but I'm telling you that the Batman role will suck the spunk outta a action star.

oh lets see.

Heat
The Island of Dr. Moreau
Ghost and the Darkness
The Saint
At First Sight
Pollock
Red Planet
The Salton Sea
Blind Horizon
Wonderland
Spartan
Stateside
Mindhunters
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang


your right, damn batman really screwed up his career...thank you drive thru

p.s this is way off topic, please stick to the topic of Terminator 4.

I realize that he was in all those movies, and I didn't really like any of them. Heat was okay, but it wasn't incredible to me. I guess my taste is extremely picky or 'snobbish' as it's been called.

Hell, I appreciate greatness ... these movies were okay at best.

But back to T4 ... I don't think Bale or Brolin will be good in it. This film is a mistake to be made ... BUT maybe it will decent ... I'm just saying the chances are slim.

I have hated every movie with Angelina Jolie in it, so I bet her career is gone, because I didnt like her in anything except maybe Gone in Sixty Seconds and Gia, so yeah her career must be going to #####, just because I didnt like Mr and Mrs Smith, yes my preference over movies dictates an actor/actress' career.

You are basing your entire argument against Bale and his career on some silly assumption. Now I am not saying everything Bale is in is a winner, just watch Reign of Fire, but Bale's career wasnt really that big before Batman, he was just known for those who had seen his performances in great flicks like American Psycho and Equilibrium, but he was an underground actor, his casting came out of nowhere but it made perfect sense.

T4 might suck, yes, but it will hardly do any dent on Bale's career.

It might be a silly assumption to you. But we will see who has the last laugh

New T4 teaser trailer - hopefully it works for you guys it's on the UK MSN homepage

I just got chills watching it and I can't wait.

My browser system isn’t supported to show the vid, apparently. Strange, but oh well. I admit that ever since I heard that Helena Bonham Carter has a villain role (albeit minor), I have suddenly become oh-so-interested in this movie.

umm thank you sir, may i have another?

that def. looked good

I liked the Terminator movies, but not without Arnold. I had a hard time enjoying T3 since he's past his prime. Indy, Rocky, Rambo, I think Hollywood is getting tired. But I did notice they didn't even give it a T4. That hints to me that it either won't do very well or they are going to continue the Terminator series in a different way, without Arnold.

I could be wrong either way, oh well. I love Christian Bale, I'm a big fan, love all the movies of him I've seen, he's the best Batman actor...I love the guy. But I have a feeling that not even he could save this. I'd rather just watch Terminator 1 and 2 for nostalgic enjoyment. I'd probably eventually rent it, just because I've seen all the Terminator movies, but I really have no interest in this.

I know what you mean, I'm a massive Arnold fan but I feel the Terminator series definitely has an expansive universe that goes beyond one man even if it is the greatest action hero(next to Stallone) that ever lived. Although Arnold got himself into awesome shape for T3 a damn site better than all of the younger action stars of today even in his fifties. But I have to agree his age was quite noticeable especially since the same week that I watched T3 in the cinema I watched T1 and T2 back to back. I would like to see him in small cameo maybe not as a Terminator but perhaps a soldier or scientist who the (Arnie) Terminator was modelled from, if you know what I mean.

Either way I still get the feeling this will surprise everyone I just can't see Bale being involved with something that's destined to bomb - he must have seen something good in the script to agree to do the new trilogy.

people should just realize, if Bale signs on for a movie, it will be good or atleast he will be good in it.

The teaser trailer was pretty badass. @_@ (You can pretty much watch it on youtube or yahoo or whatevs. P: ) It was quite a tease, and somehow it got me a little giddy to watch it. Possibly because of Christian Bale? <:D

The ending scene was a trip though. *o* I can't believe something like that came out that was so....eerily real.

I'll get my hopes up if James Cameron directs it. Only reason T3 blew ass was because the director didn't know jack ##### about the storyline and ##### it all up.

Apparently, Roland Kickinger an Austrian bodybuilder (well known to people like myself into the sport) and a very good likeness to Arnold has stepped up to star in the new Terminator movie. I've followed Kickinger for years in the magazines and have always thought he would be a natural in stepping into Arnolds shoes they even have very similar muscle genetics as well as facial features(hell he even has a gap in his teeth lol!) plus he was quite decent in the TV movie See Arnold Run. I don't know how you guys will react to it but being a fan I'm actually very pleased.

Some pics of the man himself
http://www.clintonnewsrecord.com/ArticleDi....aspx?e=1117058





Kickinger in See Arnold Run


The Real Arnold


Kickinger Most Muscular Pose


Scwarzenengger Most Muscular Pose

When I first read that, I thought that you meant he was replacing Bale, haha. Looking on IMDB though, I see he's just T-800. Oops. xD.

Source: http://movies.ign.com/articles/896/896493p1.html

I saw a teaser of it when I went to see The Dark Knight, but that was hardly enough to base anything off. *shrugs*.

he brought up some valid questions but those are things i am sure they will reveal during the movie.

Reading into this, I think he was trying very hard not to trash T3 lol. Cameron really did make a masterpiece out of the series up until his departure. Then some idiot took over for T3.

Source

I have no idea what it means, because I've never seen any of the others or am aware of the plots of them, haha. Just thought I'd post it up in case any of you who are more into Terminator might be interested or be able to speculate.

What killed it for me was when they decided to include female Terminators in, just for the sake of needless fan service (inflating breasts?! REALLY?!).

The teaser does look real cool, but doesnt explain much, but hey, it's a teaser afterall.

Didn't they also say that Arnie was going to have a little cameo, most likely at the very end?

As for speculation, maybe the time loop that was set since the first movie is going to somehow be broken, so that the future is altered in a different way, either for the better or worse. Or perhaps the big sacrifice would be to have Conner never be born at all, so a new person can have the chance to save the world. Eh, who knows.

Yup. And now people are getting their hopes up with a new Terminator directed by a guy named " McG " who's credentials include crappy music videos and Charlies Angels.



He's trying to say that John Connor is Jesus.