Finn
Jun 16 2008, 11:27 AM
This is horrible. In California a man beat a toddler to death in plain sight. He slammed him on the road and stomped him to death. Civilians and police tried to get him to stop but he would not and he was eventually shot. The baby was beaten so bad that they need to do a DNA test to confirm it's identity.
link to story :
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/16/toddle...ref=mpstoryviewHow could someone do something like this? Thoughts?
Dragon Brigade
Jun 16 2008, 11:41 AM
It's hard to understand what could have been going through that man's mind for him to do something like that. There really isn't much else I can add as far as thoughts. It's just really disgusting...
Phisix
Jun 16 2008, 01:09 PM
It once again goes to show how Disgusting this human race has gotten.(The sort of people who do this anyway) The cops should have kicked the shite out of him right there and then.
The Evil Dead
Jun 16 2008, 02:10 PM
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jun 16 2008, 04:09 PM)

It once again goes to show how Disgusting this human race has gotten.
BS Post. Don't ask " Why " either. Think about it.
Phisix
Jun 16 2008, 02:12 PM
QUOTE (The Evil Dead @ Jun 16 2008, 02:10 PM)

QUOTE (Phisix @ Jun 16 2008, 04:09 PM)

It once again goes to show how Disgusting this human race has gotten.
BS Post. Don't ask " Why " either. Think about it.
I did put this after that comment:
QUOTE
(The sort of people who do this anyway)
Theferrell
Jun 16 2008, 04:09 PM
drugs????
Jerame
Jun 16 2008, 04:20 PM
Alright, this dude was definitely pushed by overwhelming stress or a preexisting mental illness.
The story says that his relationship with the victim is yet to be established, but given that he had a toddler seat in the back of his truck, it was probably his kid or a close friend or relative's child -- a child that he was not going to intentionally, under the right frame of mind, harm. Plus, the elderly couple who found them said they spotted him in the middle of a two lane road left of center. The beating was in plain-sight. If he was sane, and had premeditated the attack for his own sick amusement, he would've taken better care to hide his crimes from passer-bys.
I think this is an extreme case of snap-rage shaken-baby syndrome by a man who was not all together fit for handling small children in the first place.
MightOfKerghan
Jun 19 2008, 03:49 AM
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jun 16 2008, 01:09 PM)

It once again goes to show how Disgusting this human race has gotten.
This is what Phisix actually believes.
Verner
Aug 19 2008, 10:30 PM
Just saw this story posted here. Don't ask why I'm out and about perusing old news stories on dreamers.
Anyway, this happened about 8 miles away from where I live. The 27 year-old guy worked at Savemart (grocery store), and was honestly a good guy. I had plenty of talks with him back when I worked at a game store, and he'd come in looking for stuff to buy. He wasn't into violent games, he preferred platformers.
It wasn't a toddler, the baby was less than a year old, and was his son. I guess he just snapped. I have no idea what his personal background was like, but he seemed normal whenever I got the chance to talk to him. He had said something about getting the demons out of the baby, and then he got shot, but by then it was too late.
It's really weird to think that he could've done something like that. I know it happened a few months ago, but I still remember talking about it with my roommates and friends. One of them was working as tech support at a factory, and was helping someone out when they said, "I'm going to have to call you back, someone is killing a baby outside." They, apparently, were really calm about it, so he thought they were joking. It's still pretty weird to think about.
Sarc Griffinheart
Aug 21 2008, 07:44 PM
That's just plain sick. It's part of the reason I hate keeping up to date with the news - always some sick story about someone getting killed in a horrific way. I guess the man had severe mental problems to do that and just snapped, but either way it's just...urgh.
Finn
Aug 21 2008, 09:15 PM
QUOTE (Verner @ Aug 20 2008, 02:30 AM)

Just saw this story posted here. Don't ask why I'm out and about perusing old news stories on dreamers.
Anyway, this happened about 8 miles away from where I live. The 27 year-old guy worked at Savemart (grocery store), and was honestly a good guy. I had plenty of talks with him back when I worked at a game store, and he'd come in looking for stuff to buy. He wasn't into violent games, he preferred platformers.
It wasn't a toddler, the baby was less than a year old, and was his son. I guess he just snapped. I have no idea what his personal background was like, but he seemed normal whenever I got the chance to talk to him. He had said something about getting the demons out of the baby, and then he got shot, but by then it was too late.
It's really weird to think that he could've done something like that. I know it happened a few months ago, but I still remember talking about it with my roommates and friends. One of them was working as tech support at a factory, and was helping someone out when they said, "I'm going to have to call you back, someone is killing a baby outside." They, apparently, were really calm about it, so he thought they were joking. It's still pretty weird to think about.
Wow that's crazy that you actually spoke to the guy. Sometimes seemingly normal people can be monsters inside, it's very scary.
Sarc Griffinheart
Aug 23 2008, 12:20 AM
Yeah, but then there's no such thing as normal to begin with. Everyone has their own set of problems, some are just more messed up than others. In this case, if what Verner says is true; it seems like the usual case of someone becoming a father and not being able to handle it and then...just freaking out. On the other hand, I doubt the person involved had a stable mental state to begin with - especially if he's capable of doing something like that.
What sickens me the most though is that is was done in a public place. I feel sorry for the people who tried to help but couldn't, including the police officers.
Dream of Purity
Sep 11 2008, 10:55 PM
There may be no such thing as normal, but this crosses the lines of insanity... He may have seemed normal, but it's really not hard to succeed at that. This may have essentially been resurrected, but it is a little weird to think that you spoke to that guy on a number of occasions, my town may be violent, but I have never known anyone who has committed anything as terrifying as that...
Fetch
Sep 16 2008, 05:17 PM
"Getting the demons out of the baby"?
...I blame religion. In all seriousness though, this is one of the human deaths (even kid) and kinda feel a little bad for them. Usually, when a kid dies by, oh, say, being an eleven year old emulating the game Halo in his house durring school hours and shoots himself untill he was a pile of bloody and dead with his folk's gun, well, that's just funny. But seeing/hearing about how people go crazy like that and kill? That's a bit much.... ....and the guy was normal before it all happened too? Huh. Creepy...
Athrun
Sep 16 2008, 05:31 PM
It could be that something happened to him mentally and went out of control. Not sure what would cause that, but I bet even "normal" people can go crazy in certain conditions.
Finn
Sep 17 2008, 10:40 AM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Sep 16 2008, 09:31 PM)

It could be that something happened to him mentally and went out of control. Not sure what would cause that, but I bet even "normal" people can go crazy in certain conditions.
Yeah definitely, I agree. Each and every person has that breaking point. All it takes is one thing to see it off and any one can lose control over themselves and end up doing something that they will regret later. It's very scary because you really don't have any control over it because it just happens and there's nothing that you can do. I hope that I never reach that breaking point. That's why I try to keep my life as simple and peaceful as possible.
Milady
Sep 17 2008, 12:54 PM
oh my goodness that's horrible! I think the guy must have gone a little crazy...he lost his mind and suddenly wasn't aware of what he was doing...like what has been said...if he really was some psycho and wanted to murder the child, it surely would have been done in private. something pushed him to his limits...might have been the child, might have been something else...it's hard to imagine what a 1 year old could have done though...he might of had other stresses in his life
Orpheus
Sep 17 2008, 01:25 PM
QUOTE (Milady @ Sep 17 2008, 03:54 PM)

and suddenly wasn't aware of what he was doing
He most likely knew what he was doing, he just didn't give a f*ck.
MightOfKerghan
Sep 20 2008, 05:02 AM
thats brutal.
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