Verner
Jul 1 2008, 08:54 PM
I'm surprised no one else has seen this yet. Taken from kotaku:
QUOTE (http://kotaku.com/5021339/is-this-official-chrono-trigger-ds-confirmation)
Earlier, we posted what looked like an announcement that Chrono Trigger DS was coming. But hey, it was a crappy magazine scan, and we weren't sure. This new countdown clock on the official Square Enix site makes us way more sure surer, even. The design is kinda like the original Chrono Trigger starting screen, and there's that ticking sound. And now the url:
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ctds/"ctds"? Chrono Trigger DS. Hrm, hrm.
Here's the link to the site:
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ctds/Is anyone else excited by this news?
Bomb
Jul 2 2008, 04:27 AM
Hoping it's a full-on remake in the vein of Final Fantasy IV DS.
Phisix
Jul 2 2008, 05:09 AM
Omg! Yes! I never thought I would be able to play this properly again. This is why the Nintendo DS is amazing! Square-Enix loves the DS. Now they just need to port Final Fantasy Tactics from the PSP and I will be complete.
Hyoushitsu
Jul 2 2008, 06:22 AM
I dunno how I feel about that. I loathe the general practice that Squeenix has adopted these days of just rehashing all of their old crap over and over again. I'm not buying a game I already own. I think it takes a terribly gullible person to keep lining Squeenix's pockets with the money they've spent on games they've already played and beaten, probably several times.
However, I was delighted when I found that FFIV DS was receiving a complete overhaul. At first, I was disgusted that they were rehashing it again. But I came around, because they're remaking it from the ground up, even adding new things.
Can't say I'll at all be excited if this is just another lame port cop out that they've used so many times before. But if they actually update it and bring it to life again, I'll be the first one in line.
Phisix
Jul 2 2008, 06:27 AM
QUOTE (Hyoushitsu @ Jul 2 2008, 07:22 AM)
I dunno how I feel about that. I loathe the general practice that Squeenix has adopted these days of just rehashing all of their old crap over and over again. I'm not buying a game I already own. I think it takes a terribly gullible person to keep lining Squeenix's pockets with the money they've spent on games they've already played and beaten, probably several times.
Indeed, but they will be re-releasing it or porting it for people who have never played it or missed out on it, like me. The same goes for Final Fantasy Tactics, I have never played that until the PSP version came out.(
Although I only played my mates copy for a day) I don't see a problem with this, and the classics are still some of the best.
Dragon Brigade
Jul 2 2008, 06:33 AM
From DS Fanboy:
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Judging by this, the DS iteration will look and sound very much like the SNES game -- Akira Toriyama's artwork will make the jump, for example, as will Yasunori Mitsuda's musical score. It's also being tweaked here and there to suit the DS's feature-set, so there'll be full touchscreen functionality, dual screen presentation, and most intriguingly, a Wireless Play mode, the details of which have yet to be fleshed out. Oh, and there's a brand new dungeon planned as well. Not exactly a straight port, then, but also not a dramatic remake.
Sounds like it's not going to be too totally revamped, but I'll still probably get it. Missed out on it the first time around anyway.
Hyoushitsu
Jul 2 2008, 06:38 AM
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 06:27 AM)
Indeed, but they will be re-releasing it or porting it for people who have never played it or missed out on it, like me. The same goes for Final Fantasy Tactics, I have never played that until the PSP version came out.(Although I only played my mates copy for a day) I don't see a problem with this, and the classics are still some of the best.
Yeah, there's nothing
wrong with it. I mean, even if you want it for a handheld system because you don't get to play at home as much for whatever reason. I only have a problem with people who continue to buy games they already own on another system. It irks me to no end. It's because I used to have a friend who was like that. He owns the original SNES FFII and III carts, FF Anthology and Chronicles, as well as the new FFIV Advance.
It's not really my business what people do with their own cash, but that is pure gullibility and borders on stupidity.
QUOTE
Sounds like it's not going to be too totally revamped, but I'll still probably get it. Missed out on it the first time around anyway.
Meh. Another one they just tack on an extra dungeon for then? Lame.
Phisix
Jul 2 2008, 06:59 AM
I see where you are coming from, it can be annoying, but the one solution for people who have already played it or have it, is to not buy it or just leave them to it.
Tweaked graphics and a new dungeon is fine for me, since I only played a small part of the game many years ago. Akira Toriyama did the artwork for the original did he not?
Athrun
Jul 2 2008, 07:00 AM
Well on one hand I thought the original graphics suited the game just fine, so if the game stays that way is more of a preferance than a graphics upgrade that may or may not work. But on the other hand, if it stays the same in so many ways, it's a game I've already played through several times before, and an extra dungeon is not enough to convince me to replay it. On the other hand if I feel like replaying the game again spontaniously, I'll probably want to play the DS version.
Even though I prefer the 2D graphics, it would have been better to have it remade completely to make it feel like a new game.
Bomb
Jul 2 2008, 07:09 AM
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 09:27 AM)
Indeed, but they will be re-releasing it or porting it for people who have never played it or missed out on it, like me. The same goes for Final Fantasy Tactics, I have never played that until the PSP version came out.
You could always just play the ROM on your PSP...
Vilagen
Jul 2 2008, 07:18 AM
I really do not want this to get the graphical haul that Final Fantasy IV got. I am not against better graphics, but unlike Final Fantasy IV, Chrono Trigger's visuals were appealing enough to the point that I think that the same kind of graphic set that was used for III and IV would only hurt Chrono Trigger. I would be much happier with a port with a lot of added content. (And honestly, with Chrono Trigger it would be very easy to add a few dungeons and bosses here and there.)
Phisix
Jul 2 2008, 08:16 AM
QUOTE (Bomb @ Jul 2 2008, 07:09 AM)
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 09:27 AM)
Indeed, but they will be re-releasing it or porting it for people who have never played it or missed out on it, like me. The same goes for Final Fantasy Tactics, I have never played that until the PSP version came out.
You could always just play the ROM on your PSP...
I could, but I do not have a PSP anymore, so the DS version will have to do. Good idea though, I used to have FFVII and FFIX on it.
Voyou San
Jul 2 2008, 09:17 AM
found this and thought i would throw it in this topic
QUOTE
CHRONO TRIGGER Returns! The Timeless Classic Teleports to Nintendo DS This Holiday Season
LOS ANGELES, CA USA
Journey Through Time with the RPG Masterpiece that Started It All
LOS ANGELES, July 2 /PRNewswire/ Square Enix, Inc., the publisher of Square Enix™ interactive entertainment products in North America, announced today that it will release CHRONO TRIGGER® in North America this Holiday season. Remastered exclusively for Nintendo DS™, this marks the first time that the groundbreaking RPG will be available on a handheld console.
Originally released in 1995 on Super NES® and shipping more than 2.5 million copies worldwide, CHRONO TRIGGER has been hailed as one of the greatest games of all time by critics and fans alike. With a unique and multifaceted storyline, the game revolutionized the world of RPGs with
never-before-seen features, including an unprecedented soundtrack and multiple endings determined by side quests and the player's actions.
With artwork by famed manga artist Akira Toriyama and an unprecedented and inspiring musical score created by Yasunori Mitsuda, CHRONO TRIGGER represents the best-in-class of the video game world. This newly revamped edition maintains all of the game's original elements and spirit while
introducing the portability, dual-screen presentation and Touch-Screen functionality of Nintendo DS. Players will soon be able to rediscover the exhilarating RPG experience, breathtaking storyline and innovative gameplay in the palm of their hands.
FEATURES
A masterpiece with an engaging and unparalleled storyline, leading to the discovery of multiple epic conclusions to a journey that transcends time
An unprecedented and inspiring musical score created by Yasunori Mitsuda
Intriguing battle system made possible by the unique combination of the Active Time Battle system and Tech skills
Famed character designer Akira Toriyama lends his signature art style to create the vibrant world that has captivated gamers around the world
Taking advantage of the Nintendo DS hardware, CHRONO TRIGGER makes its way onto the portable platform with all-new dual screen presentation and Touch-Screen functionality
A brand new dungeon and a Wireless Play mode adds exciting new dimensions to this timeless classic
CHRONO TRIGGER has not yet been rated. Please visit the Entertainment Software Rating Board website at
http://www.esrb.org for more information about ratings. The official website can be found at
http://na.square-enix.com/ctds.
Phisix
Jul 2 2008, 09:45 AM
That only problem now is that us England and European lot will have to wait for an eternity for it to be released over here. The only counter attack to that statement is there will be tons of other great RPGS on the DS to play until then, but still.
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 01:45 PM)
That only problem now is that us England and European lot will have to wait for an eternity for it to be released over here. The only counter attack to that statement is there will be tons of other great RPGS on the DS to play until then, but still.
Import. The DS is region free.
Phisix
Jul 2 2008, 12:08 PM
I thought of that, but are European games exactly the same as the ones that are released in American?
Mushroom
Jul 2 2008, 03:05 PM
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 09:45 AM)
That only problem now is that us England and European lot will have to wait for an eternity for it to be released over here. The only counter attack to that statement is there will be tons of other great RPGS on the DS to play until then, but still.
I'm doing to go ahead and veto that statement dude. That was a ponit 4-5 years ago. But no ,we don't wait eternity anymore, especially with the DS. You really think that man? Ok. Sometimes we simply don't get the game, but if we are, it comes out very soon after, sometimes even before. I can't think of a DS game i've had to wait for because of this. The only recent game i can think of in general is crisis core, but thats an exception.
On topic, hell yes. I've tried playing this on rom loads, and I simply can't stick to roms, i get bored with them.So excellent, I'll buy this, and finally get into it ^^
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 04:08 PM)
I thought of that, but are European games exactly the same as the ones that are released in American?
Most of the time, yes.
If you want CT in English, then import it when it's released in U.S. or you can wait until it's release in Europe in a couple of months to a year. It's up to you.
Mushroom
Jul 2 2008, 04:10 PM
QUOTE (Eva @ Jul 2 2008, 05:05 PM)
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 04:08 PM)
I thought of that, but are European games exactly the same as the ones that are released in American?
Most of the time, yes.
If you want CT in English, then import it when it's released in U.S. or you can wait until it's release in Europe in a couple of months to a year. It's up to you.
dude, seriously, a couple of mnoths to a year? Where is this thing originating from? SE's last game uot on DS - FFTA2 - came out last week in both america and the UK. I think we waited a few days extra.
QUOTE (Mushroom @ Jul 2 2008, 08:10 PM)
QUOTE (Eva @ Jul 2 2008, 05:05 PM)
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 04:08 PM)
I thought of that, but are European games exactly the same as the ones that are released in American?
Most of the time, yes.
If you want CT in English, then import it when it's released in U.S. or you can wait until it's release in Europe in a couple of months to a year. It's up to you.
dude, seriously, a couple of mnoths to a year? Where is this thing originating from? SE's last game uot on DS - FFTA2 - came out last week in both america and the UK. I think we waited a few days extra.
What about Final Fantasy XII?
What about Final Fantasy IV for the DS?
Flame
Jul 2 2008, 05:04 PM
Has FFIV DS come out yet?
Anyway, it's a huge disappointment that it's just a port with extras... normally I don't care but after getting a taste of 3D Chrono Trigger (before SE shut them down) it's just a bit of a shame... however it's fantastic news for me because just like 'shroom I get bored of roms and never finished the game and now I can't remember what I'm supposed to be doing (plus I don't think Frog and Marle were a great team). So yeah, I'm happy... very happy, but it could have been oh so much better *sigh*.
Vilagen
Jul 2 2008, 08:00 PM
QUOTE (Flame @ Jul 2 2008, 05:04 PM)
Has FFIV DS come out yet?
Anyway, it's a huge disappointment that it's just a port with extras... normally I don't care but after getting a taste of 3D Chrono Trigger (before SE shut them down) it's just a bit of a shame...
Nope, FFIV comes out around the end of this month. (As far as I know of anyway.)
The thing about the fan made 3D remake was that it was done for hardware to give the 3D visuals justice, which is something I do not believe the DS is capable of. Chrono Trigger was a good, no, a
great looking game for the SNES, and it still looks good up to this day. I really can not understand why people would want to see the same kind of graphic set used from the FFIII and IV remakes to Chrono Trigger, when to me, it would completely ruin it. It is not that I am against a nice 3D remake of Chrono Trigger, it is just that I would rather it be done on a system that would make it still look good. Hell, I would prefer that being done for the PSP before the DS.
Athrun
Jul 2 2008, 08:09 PM
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 10:08 PM)
I thought of that, but are European games exactly the same as the ones that are released in American?
Well in terms of game content, that's almost always the case. I'm not sure what kind of a difference you were expecting?
But the savefiles for a game from one region won't work for a game from another.
Peach
Jul 2 2008, 08:33 PM
QUOTE (Bomb @ Jul 2 2008, 08:09 AM)
QUOTE (Phisix @ Jul 2 2008, 09:27 AM)
Indeed, but they will be re-releasing it or porting it for people who have never played it or missed out on it, like me. The same goes for Final Fantasy Tactics, I have never played that until the PSP version came out.
You could always just play the ROM on your PSP...
That's what I going to do, as I do not want to have to rebuy a game that I already own.
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Another remake, they also remade this for the PSX. But I might gets this depending on the differences than the other two versions.
SNES>>PS1>>NEW
SNES was the best, it had some music from the game that was put into the SNES version of FF6, and that is why that it is the best.
Phisix
Jul 3 2008, 04:57 AM
I am actually new to owning a Nintendo DS so I did not really know it was legion free, which helps a lot. FFIV DS is out over here in 80 odd days, so it is not that far away.
Markies
Jul 3 2008, 05:39 AM
I played the HELL out of the PS1 remake. I got all the endings and I was one of the few who thought the remake wasn't too bad. The pause before every battle was a bit annoying, but I was able to see past it.
Surprisingly, I'm not the biggest Chrono Trigger fan, so I am not too stoked for the game to come out. However, it is nice to see Square Enix release an update on something else besides Final Fantasy. I thought Chrono Trigger would be a once in a lifetime game, so it's nice to see another remake of it. I just hope they keep the anime inspired artstyle and not try to update it.
Apple
Jul 3 2008, 06:51 AM
Not completely revamped. =___= I was hoping it would be, since I've beaten CT on the SNES so many times over now, I can almost memorize the entire gameplay in my head. ; ; But I'm glad to see this coming out for the DS. Since DS games are easily obtainable for me, I'll really be anticipating its release just to see how they're going to reuse the DS touch system and maybe style up some bits of it. I mean, I'm not exactly too excited about seeing the same character designer, whatever his name was that I can't spell off the top of my head, but I guess this stays true to the original.
Hyoushitsu
Jul 3 2008, 10:43 AM
You mean Akira "Rehash All Three Of My Character Designs" Toriyama? Yeah. :\
But this is one of the only times I'm not loath to see him. It wouldn't be right if they got someone else to re-design the characters. Not for Chrono Trigger.
The Evil Dead
Jul 3 2008, 11:17 AM
The only way I'll be excited is if it's a full blown remake and the dialog has been redone.
Which apparently isn't the case.
Dragon Brigade
Jul 3 2008, 11:59 AM
This is an image of what the game looks like, from DS Fanboy:
Looks so very impressive. =(.
Athrun
Jul 6 2008, 09:14 PM
Doesn't look like there's anything new can be found in the scan, except perhaps the artwork on top of the page. But that may be old as well.
This screenshot though seems to say "where is this?", but to me it just looks like the royal castle 600 AD? Maybe I haven't played the game in a while to notice the difference.
But rather than only adding a new dungeon I wish they would have added a whole new time epoch if it were possible to do it in a good way. Then I would have wanted to play the game for sure.
A new time epoch, and some new tech attacks/dual techs would be nice. And if redone graphics could be done well, then it should be done on no less than PSP quality. DS 3D graphics probably won't look better than Chrono Trigger's 2D graphics.
http://www.gamekyo.com/video12188_chrono-t...irst-video.htmlHere's a trailer as well, but nothing new can be found in it. Although for some reason I enjoyed watching the sharper looking titlescreen. That music really takes me back though...
I thought this would be a remake, not a port with a couple of additions.
I have to say I'm quite disappointed.
Markies
Jul 7 2008, 06:05 AM
I know the original game had the same character designers as the Dragon Quest series. But, I look at the above picture and the characters look much more influenced by the Dragon Quest games. Ayla and especially Marlee look like extras in Dragon Quest VIII. Marlee looks so much smaller and her eyes are much larger in comparsion to the SNES version.
It is small and insignificant, but it is a bit distracting and kind of threw me for a loop. I don't have a DS, but my best-friend does and when I told him about the port, he seemed rather interested.
Apirant
Jul 7 2008, 03:02 PM
I'm disappointed in it as well... I've played the Super Nintendo's Chrono Trigger too much to try it again with only a few changes.
cloudycat
Jul 16 2008, 03:45 PM
I'll be looking forward to this even though I didn't love it the first time I played it(the port) on the PS1 I couldn't shake the feeling that I'd enjoy playing CT more on a handheld, so I'll be getting what I wanted. Bring it on
Grahf
Jul 17 2008, 08:04 AM
I have the PS1 version of Chrono Trigger, but the load times are just unbearable for me, so I just stopped. I'll probably get this considering I've never fully played through the game.
Although, I could go to a local game store and buy an SNES for $50 then go ahead and buy Chrono Trigger (with box and everything!) for $90...
That is a serious consideration for me.
Eva
Jul 23 2008, 10:05 AM
Is this a subtitle for Chrono Trigger DS or a sign of a new Chrono game?QUOTE
During E3 Square Enix trademarked Echoes of Time. Since the DS port of Chrono Trigger has been out of the bag for weeks this trademark could be a subtitle to the remake we already know about. Chrono Trigger: Echoes of Time sounds much better than Chrono Trigger DS. On the other hand, Square Enix never said Chrono Trigger was a temporary title. Publishers typically note these details to prepare everyone for a name change. When Star Ocean 4 was announced in Japan it was clearly labeled as a temporary title.
Source:
http://www.siliconera.com/2008/07/23/is-th...ew-chrono-game/S-E trademarked Echoes of Time during E3. It could just be the title for the DS title, but it could be the title for another game from S-E. At the moment, it's unknown. Considering CT remake is coming, it could mean another CT title is on it's away. Considering CT is nothing more than a port with likely a couple of additions, I am hoping there's more coming from S-E and Chrono series.
Dragon Brigade
Jul 23 2008, 11:22 AM
Naturally it'd be cool if that were a new title entirely instead of just a subtitle, which they don't think it is anyway. We'll see how that turns out, I guess.
Phisix
Jul 23 2008, 11:28 AM
I would wager that it is a title, but I do like to be proven wrong. Will be nice to know sooner rather then later though.
Athrun
Jul 23 2008, 01:03 PM
A new Chrono Trigger game would be too good to be true. That's what I feel at the moment. =/
Dragon Brigade
Jul 25 2008, 04:51 PM
Since it's a port, I was rather hoping it would be less, but I guess that was pretty silly thinking considering the game. It has a December 1st release date on Gamestop, with a $40 price. >.>.
QUOTE
Square Enix hasn't said anything official about the release date or pricing of the Chrono Trigger port yet. We held out hope for a budget price, since it's a port, and since the $20 price point for Arkanoid DS and Space Invaders Extreme, both new games, proves that Square Enix can charge less than $40 for a game now and then.
Not this time, apparently! According to a Gamestop listing (which is even linked from the site's front page), Chrono Trigger will come out December 1 at the familiar $40 price point. Not that Chrono Trigger isn't worth $40. Just ask eBay!
Source:
http://www.dsfanboy.com/2008/07/25/gamesto...ger-date-price/
Vilagen
Jul 25 2008, 07:02 PM
Well, that's a load of #####.
Athrun
Jul 26 2008, 06:31 AM
That sucks. I mean, it's a great game. For sure. It's up there with my favorites like Suikoden 2, etc.
And I suppose that if you only look at the game's quality and disregard the fact that it's using ancient technology, then maybe you can justify that price for someone who has never played it.
But the thing is, I'm sure many of the people interested in the game have already bought and payed for the original, or even the PS1 port.
The Evil Dead
Jul 26 2008, 08:20 AM
I roffled in my waffles. What's awesome is it'll sell just fine at 40 dollars.
Eva
Jul 26 2008, 09:20 AM
40 U.S. dollars for a port to a portable system? I'll pass.
I would have been willing to pay 40 dollars for a revamp version of the game, but not a port.
cloudycat
Jul 30 2008, 07:32 AM
*Shrugs* $40 is just under £20, and in this country that's pretty cheap. So I'll pay it, especially since I'd be happier playing it on a portable system than on the PS1.
Athrun
Jul 30 2008, 10:18 AM
Yeah the loading times on the PS1 version were annoying at times. Mainly because there were none in the original. But I played though the game once anyway on PS1, since it was my only option. Well that, or an emulator. But that would be even worse since I never could get into and enjoy an rpg properly on an emulator.
I'll probably get this one though. It's probably a better version than the PS1 port, and I'd like to have theone that's more enjoyable to play. I don't mind playing CT on a stationary console though, but the loading times made it inconvenient.
Pesmerga
Jul 31 2008, 07:52 AM
I agree with the loading times. They could be very annoying, but I stuck with it anyway.
I might play this on a friends' DS, but I am not sure. I'll see if he gets the game, which he'll probably will.
Grahf
Jul 31 2008, 08:37 AM
I'll probably get it on the DS despite it being only a port. I have the PS1 version, but I really couldn't stand the load times, so I think getting it for DS will make it more accessible (can play it anywhere) without the load times (hopefully). If there are load times, however, I will definitely not pay for this.
cloudycat
Aug 18 2008, 02:54 PM
Confirmed 25 November release date in the US, with multiple new dungeons instead of
dungeon and reworked animι cut scenes from the PS1 port which I rather enjoyed.
http://www.siliconera.com/2008/08/18/chron...on-november-25/
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