I haven't had any experiences with ghosts or anything paranormal so I really don't know how I feel about ghosts. I've seen some stuff that is very convincing and also stuff that looks just plain fake so I'm really not sure. Maybe they exist, maybe they don't. I can't say.

So what are your thoughts on ghosts? Has anyone ever had an experience with one?

I do. But probably not in the sense you're thinking. Energy passes from our bodies when we die, I believe that energy may linger behind in some instances causing paranormal situations.

I believe in ghosts.

If you ever get a hold of REAL Ouja board -- not those artificial junk-ass toys from the store, but a solid handmade one with some history --- you will learn to believe in ghosts.

Most people think the Ouja board is about automatic messaging, but that's not the true effect. When you use one, it is not moving by itself. You are the one being moved to the letters.

I tried it twice, and I saw visions in my dreams that were seriously intense. So much so, that I was awake in my bed panicking for ten minutes, wondering if it was over. I saw a man splatter his brains all over a kitchen counter. I think the man in my dream was a ghost that depicted to me his demise.

You might think I'm loony. Not everyone gets to try this, but if you do, you'll know it's real.

This is what happens when you drink and smoke too much.

Lawl on that.

Anyway. I don't believe in Ghost since I've never seen one and never will Lol. So yeah. No Ghost for me.

I'd say I want what you're smoking Jereme but I doubt it beats the quality buds I get.

I believe in paranormal stuff, though nothing paranormal has happened to me in particular.

I can't say I believe completely since I've never seen or experienced anything myself. But I'm more inclined to believe. I've seen some fake things, but also things that seem very convincing. With photo's and things, I think very rarely someone has caught something on that camera, even something that looks pretty damning. But skeptics will always be skeptics even if a ghost is right in front of them. They'll say it was lighting, the camera strap was in the way, or it was a bad angle or something haha. Hell, some skeptics could probably see a ghost and they'd say someone must have slipped LSD in their soda.

The thing with me is that over the course of history, there have been alleged ghost sightings, making for billions of people over the course of time to say that they had a paranormal experience. A lot of those things can be explained away, that I don't doubt. But there are certain instances where some things can't be explained away quite so easily. So I have to take the side that while many experiences can most likely be explained, I can't consciously say that billions of people are all wrong and there is no shred of truth to it at all.

Eh...I believe in angels and devils. God obviously can do anything and everything, but I don’t believe humans can use telepathy or telekinesis unless they’ve seriously found favor with Him. There are only a few saints that come to mind who have ever been able to do something beyond the general given scope of what humans can do (ie: be in two places at once). It’s not very common with humanity, so I only believe that God, His angels, and Lucifer and his fallen angels can do any of that unless God grants it to us.

I believe that anything is possible, that even facts as we know it may not really be factual. In short, there's the possibility that there are ghosts and paranormal activity and there's the possibility that there aren't. And I believe both, though leaning more towards the possibility that there are ghosts. Same goes for divine beings and aliens, actually. The world seem a lot less duller if more things existing than not.

Does that work?

EDIT: changed 'there's the impossibility that there aren't' to what I really meant. ; Damn.

LOL, that ##### with the ouja board was REAL. I kid you not. It has made a firm believer out of me.

What kind of buds you smoke? I don't know if you'd be seeing ghosts, but if you took a gravity-hit off this skunky Texas 'Willie' ##### I had a few weeks ago, you'd be hearing them for sure

i'd love to see something paranormal. It's strange, i've been told my apartment is haunted by several people who have stayed over, the usual stuff, like shadows flicking across the walls, things being seen out of the corner of their eyes, doors doing wierd stuff. it's all the sorta stuff that could be explained by too many drinks, a bad batch (or an extremely good batch) or just natural occurances i know, but i really would like to belive that.

at least a couple times a month, me and a few friends like to visit cemetaries late at night to try and see stuff, a little cliché i know, but you can always try. i'm usually the most skeptical person there, not so much because i don't believe, i do, but more because i tend to look for what it could be. like lights coming from the warehous across the road, rabbits, stuff like. i've read that you need to be really open to see stuff, so maybe that's stunting me.

People need fiction in their lives and that's all.

I believe along the same lines as DragonBrigade. I am a firm believer in God , but because of this, I do believe that ghosts are real. However, I believe that ghosts are either one of two things.

1 - The soul of a deceased person that has not found rest. Basically they have not yet accepted the fact that they are dead. I would believe that these are normally what we would call "apparitions", and be the movement out of the corner of you eye that, even though nothing is there, you swear there is; or the sound that you think is a voice. You can then rationalize what you saw and how it happened, IE: a cat moving out of vision, or the wind.

2 - The soul of deceased person brought back by demonic means. Since i believe in angels and demons, I beliee that these are simply demons posing as deceased human souls, or souls that the demon gave life to, but instructs it what to do. These are what I would consider "ghosts" or "spectres", the ones that will interact with you and actually try to scare/hurt you.

I have not had any interaction with ghosts (that I know of), but I have seen picutres and know people who have had interactions. Because of this, I beleive that ghosts can only be seen by those it wants to see it, or by those who are attuned to them. This can take many forms, such as my friend that was only able to interact with them by drawing, or those that can actually channel them. I do believe that I have had interaction, since I can walk into places and "feel an odd feeling". It can change my demeanor. But I have no evidence to support this.

Images existing in space but not time.

I mean, no. I just think some people are paranoid, which doesn't dismiss it at all. There is just no proof and plenty of reason for me to doubt it. Like God Dumbledore.

I believe in ghosts and such, but the Ouija Board and seances are totally fake. Same as those reality tv shows, like Ghosthunters and those talk shows with those guys that can communicate with the dead.

The dead speak to me.. they are trying to say.. ##### you Pes.

the dead also tell you to shut it, but you don't listen to that either =).

The dead say you are a sycophant.

Ouija Boards and and seances are NOT fake. I wouldn't expect you to be a believer unless you really felt it for yourself. It's frightening.



I agree. Some many people live their lives to kiss-ass for the narrow-minded views of living society. If you could feel just a tiny bit of the afterlife, you would know that life as we know it is very small and superficial. There's greater power beyond us. Not even the sharpest of minds can touch the tip of the iceberg.

It is funny that you talk about other people being narrow minded, Jerame, because if any, you're being narrow minded. You have proven this in countless topics.

Anyhoo, I said I did believe in ghosts, but not in Ouija Boards. Jesus, where did you learn to read?
Ouija Boards are tricks of your subconscious mind. The same as feeling things in dark places when there is nothing.
It is your mind playing tricks with you, such as for example the things you see moving in the corner of your eye.

Oh and uhm, yeah I did had experience with an Ouija board, sorry to crush your thoughts on that. Maybe I am simply not as gullible as you are.

And Noir, I do not need to repeat myself =P.

I said nothing about you believing in ghosts. I said you didn't believe in Ouija Boards and Seances. I know full well that this isn't true. I've experienced it.

LOL, I'm not narrow-minded. You don't even know who I really am. I just like to start feuds with people on message boards that are 'gullible' to believe such nonsense. I have a warped sense of humor for sure. Besides, didn't you say you were done responding to me?

You put too much faith in science and human logic. There is so much more beyond what any man can comprehend. You won't believe it, but wouldn't you hate to be wrong?

You probably have not used a REAL one. These are Boards that have real spiritual past. I love to watch 'rational' non-believer swallow their tongues in disbelief over the powers of the spiritual world.

Dude, to believe in Ouija Boards, one obviously has to believe in ghosts. What is the point in participating in something you don't even care about.
Second, it was a real one. Oh noes, I crushed it again!

I believe ghosts are real, but seances and Ouija boards are toys for the weaker minded. The same goes for those "readers" that can talk to dead person from your past. Anyone that believes in this nonsense shows how gullible they are.
I do not really need to tell, but I am sure you'll agree with this: if you really want to believe something, even if it isn't true, you'll eventually start believing yourself, this counts for most things including believing that a ball was in, when it was out in a game

And no, I do not trust too much in science and human logic, besides the factual information about the mind is rather limited anyway. Anyway, you seem to trust too much on your religion and magic.

And yes, you are narrow-minded, you have proven (read proven) this in other topics, besides I think we know more than enough from you. Read my first reply on the first page.

And? Why does that greater power matter? Why do ghosts matter? Why do you need to waste time on that?

General Interests. It's a hobby for me.

Woah woah woah, I was joking when I called him a sycophant. lol

But yeah.. I will never buy that. It's a piece of wood/plastic/#####.

There are too many stupid people out there clinging to some desperate hope that there is something after death that a few intelligent people think to themselves "...I could make money out of that". Ouija boards and people who supposedly 'talk to the dead' are cons artists, some are just better than others. You watch those shows on tv with the magicians that make real cool stuff happen and you can't work out for the life of you how they do it, it's the same with these people - they are just good at their job.

And don't start with the narrow minded approach, i'm the most open minded person I know, and i've infact HAD paranormal experiences so my beliefs are founded on something...for lack of a better word, 'solid'. So yes I believe in ghosts or something beyond whatever the hell it may be, but not because some retard on tv said they exist and he holds talk forums with them, or a bunch of drunken idiots pulling and pushing a piece of wood to spell something 'spooky'.

Infact if you want to see something REALLY funny, lookup a tv show that's airing in Australia currently (might be in other places too) called 'the one'. It tests out psychics and how good or powerful or however you gauge them. Some of the results are very funny. An example is they are in a shipping yard full of empty containers, one contains barrels and they have to find which one - one guy is like "I can feel a strong energy through my hand coming in this direction, It's very intense <opens door to empty container> aaaaand i'm very disappointed" XD

My exact thoughts, Whippy. I have seen many of those shows where there is a host that supposedly talks to the dead.
Imagine this scenario, which is very common:

TV Show, audience of about 100-200 men, plus psychic host:

Host: "I sense some power, I see the letter J." *looks at audience, minor reaction*
Host: "Is it James, Jim, Jamie, Justin" *yeah, 2 people, one old, one young*
Host: "I see a figure that mean a lot to your live, someone older, maybe a father figure" *older one starts nodding* *BINGO*

Really, the people that believe in this are so blind to reality and so oblivious to this whole charade. Why? Simply because they believe in it so desperately, they consider it truth. This is the power of the mind, simply because you want to believe in something, you'll start believing it.

Bah. You are all fools.

Your body and mind are biological entities; death is the end of a biological entity: ergo when you die you cease to be.

Sure, I could say I've had experiences I can't quit explain; but its things that happened when I was 'out of mind' (just woken up from a deep sleep, stoned, etc.)

The body is nothing more than the protective covering for your brain and other vital organs. Your brain is a lot of electrical synapses firing off at different intervals and chemicals mixing at certain times to create reactions to the area around you, whether it be hostile, non-hostile, or the body (mistakenly) believes it is hostile.

Then again, I'm a biology nerd as well as an atheist. 'Spirit realm' and 'afterlife' make me want to cringe.

I believe science cannot explain everything, no matter how hard it tries. The body is so intricate that scientists have only just mapped the human genome recently, and i'm sure there's a lot more to us than that they have no idea about.

But then that's the idea of faith, you base it not on hard facts, but gut feeling. Why have are the only species to have supposedly evolved to be a superior (mentally anyway =P) race and no other species is even close? Why are we the only ones with a sense of self, right or wrong, etc etc.

I don't believe in the church, and I'm open to there being a god, but at the very least I know there is something beyond mortal life. But I think you have to be open to the idea to see if it's true or not.

It doesn't mater if scientists can or can't explain everything. They will someday, if we don't go extinct or primitive by then. What matters is that they keep proving from day to day that the world, the universe, is about physics, not paranormal. Nothing can contradict the laws of physics. It's as simple as that. It is impossible for objects to move by themselves.

I believe in ghosts and the paranormal. I've never seen one of course, but I've felt...presences around at times. Hard to explain really, and maybe it was just my imagination playing tricks on me; but I've been to some supposedly haunted places and heard and felt things that sent shivers down my spine. I'm not religious, but I think some aspect of a person or creature remains after they die.

(contradictory to my normal nature) There are a lot of things that science can't explain.... But that doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't there, I have gotten the same strange feelings, and a lot of people I know, and trust, including some of the more...ahem... reputable members of my family have described instances in which they have seen something that could only be described as 'uniquely paranormal' ... as for whether or not I believe, I do... I had experiences growing up that I would rather not go into detail on for fear of people thinking I am crazy... or at least crazier...

There's tons of things that science can't explain. I mean, look at the scientists and researchers who study children. They're too unpredictable to try and make explicit theories about them.

I don't believe in the "paranormal" per se, but I do believe that God can intervene at times in people's lives. That's kinda paranormal, but in more of a divine sense.

I do believe in dreams, for the most part, too. There's been a few times when I know that something I dreamed was significant in making a decision or course change in my life.

It's just all trippy