Dragon Brigade
Jul 13 2008, 09:20 AM
This has sort of been big news in the world of American football. Any thoughts on it?
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The Green Bay Packers have said no to Brett Favre's request for a release.
General manager Ted Thompson said Saturday that the team will not honour Favre's request, another indication that the relationship between the parties is growing further strained.
The Packers did say that the former quarterback could rejoin the team as a backup to Aaron Rodgers. However, Favre had asked for a release, which would give him the opportunity to sign with another team if he decides to come out of retirement.
"Favre's welcomed back, but the scenery has changed," Thompson said. "There may be a different role. He becomes an active member of the roster, and then we'll see how it goes from there. We don't have the answers right now, because it hasn't happened, and we don't know that it will."
Favre's request came three days after a conference call with team officials in which the future Hall of Fame quarterback emphatically expressed his desire to play in 2008. On March 5, he announced he retirement during a tear-filled press conference.
"We understand this is a very volatile, sensitive thing," Thompson added. "Fans are unbelievably passionate about this team and passionate about Brett Favre. We understand that, and we're going to try to stay steady, consistent, and try to do the right thing for Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers."
The Packers issued a statement Friday afternoon acknowledging Favre's wishes, but ESPN.com reported that they were not receptive about his possible return to the team and wanted "to move forward", which prompted Favre's request for a release.
"Brett earned and exercised the right to retire on his terms," the statement read. "We wanted him to return and welcomed him back on more than one occasion.
"Brett's press conference and subsequent conversations in the following weeks illustrated his commitment to retirement. The finality of his decision to retire was accepted by the organisation. At that point, the Green Bay Packers made the commitment to move forward with our football team."
During Tuesday's conference call, the 38-year-old Favre also said he felt pressured by the team and never was 100% when he decided to retire in March.
Source:
http://nationalpost.pa-sportsticker.com/de...23751215897332AEDIT: Could a Moderator please move this to the Entertainment forum? It should probably go there instead. Sorry. >.<.
Valince
Jul 14 2008, 08:24 AM
This is the exact same thing that happened to Barry Sanders. The huge difference here though is, the Detroit Lions were a god awful team and Barry wanted to be on a better one. Denying him a release, Barry had to retire, unable FOREVER to sign with another team. Favre has proven to be one of the most loyal players in the league, if he comes out of retirement, there is no doubt that he'd go back to the packers :/. Green Bay is being paranoid and this is going to make the relationship very thin.
Voyou San
Jul 15 2008, 07:55 AM
I dont see anything wrong with the decision by Green Bay. They paid Brett his money, he retired, than changed his mind. He retired with 2 or 3 years left on his contract, so Green Bay has every right not to let him just walk to another team. If anything they should try to trade him and get value.
Ken Masters
Jul 23 2008, 11:39 AM
This is the saddest thing to happen to my favorite franchise, but wallowing to what can I say business is business. In anycase, I see the point of both sides, Green Bay signed Aaron Rodgers (a first round pick, who not only performs well but even has the full confidence of Brett Favre) and by allowing Favre to play as a starter would not only force Green Bay to waste that Draft Pick but force them to release Rodgers and allow him to play for rival teams within the division and quite frankly Rodgers has potential to grow while Favre could be at his prime. However, if they release Favre, he might produce a winning season for another division rival (considering Favre wants to play somewhere where it's cold, most likely Minnesota), while Rodgers is still going through a season to prove himself. It's a messy situation, and I hope it get's resolved soon.
Voyou San
Jul 23 2008, 11:46 AM
Green Bay has said they are moving on and i think they should stand by that. Give Rodgers the ball and see if he is the real deal.
Ken Masters
Jul 23 2008, 12:04 PM
My thoughts exactly, although I love Favre to death, I just think he should have thought his move before he announced it. Personally, I say release him and see what happens. If you invested your hope on Rodgers, train him and see what he can produce.
LagunaWannabe
Jul 24 2008, 06:07 AM
I'm so sick of this. The team comes first. When Favre retired he made it SO clear and seem SO final, as the Green Bay Packers you HAVE to move on. And say "We can still be good without him". You get into a mentality that you're on your own now. And for him to come back all of a sudden, I think it would be terrible for the Packers to look at the team and say "We need Brett Favre we're bringing him back and starting him again".
I think it's smart for them to say they'll take him back, but he'll need to win the starting job again. That's only fair. You can't comromise a WHOLE football team and organization for 1 man.
And as 1 man, I'd hate to see him finish his career ANYWHERE else but Green Bay. This is totally on Favre, and it was a big mistake on his part. He's gotta deal wit hthe consequences.
Voyou San
Jul 24 2008, 06:15 AM
QUOTE (LagunaWannabe @ Jul 24 2008, 08:07 AM)

I'm so sick of this. The team comes first. When Favre retired he made it SO clear and seem SO final, as the Green Bay Packers you HAVE to move on. And say "We can still be good without him". You get into a mentality that you're on your own now. And for him to come back all of a sudden, I think it would be terrible for the Packers to look at the team and say "We need Brett Favre we're bringing him back and starting him again".
I think it's smart for them to say they'll take him back, but he'll need to win the starting job again. That's only fair. You can't comromise a WHOLE football team and organization for 1 man.
And as 1 man, I'd hate to see him finish his career ANYWHERE else but Green Bay. This is totally on Favre, and it was a big mistake on his part. He's gotta deal wit hthe consequences.
from the packers stand point, sure they should take him back, but as a back up to further the education for Rodgers and as someone who could lead the team if Rodgers falters, but really it should be Rodgers job no matter what to start the season. If this does not work for the packers, then trade him. Trust me you can get something of value for Favre from a quarterback hungry team like the Vikings, Bears, 49ers, Lions.
LagunaWannabe
Jul 24 2008, 06:16 AM
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from the packers stand point, sure they should take him back, but as a back up to further the education for Rodgers and as someone who could lead the team if Rodgers falters, but really it should be Rodgers job no matter what to start the season. If this does not work for the packers, then trade him. Trust me you can get something of value for Favre from a quaterback hungry team like the Vikings, Bears, 49ers, Lions.
I completely agree, but that's the thing, Favre doesn't WANT to be backup. He WANTS to play, so he wants out of Green Bay. And I think that's dumb. He's gotta understand that the team comes before he does.
And yes Packers will definitely have to trade him, it's just too bad that he doesn't finish his career in Green Bay.
Voyou San
Jul 24 2008, 06:19 AM
QUOTE (LagunaWannabe @ Jul 24 2008, 08:16 AM)

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from the packers stand point, sure they should take him back, but as a back up to further the education for Rodgers and as someone who could lead the team if Rodgers falters, but really it should be Rodgers job no matter what to start the season. If this does not work for the packers, then trade him. Trust me you can get something of value for Favre from a quaterback hungry team like the Vikings, Bears, 49ers, Lions.
I completely agree, but that's the thing, Favre doesn't WANT to be backup. He WANTS to play, so he wants out of Green Bay. And I think that's dumb. He's gotta understand that the team comes before he does.
And yes Packers will definitely have to trade him, it's just too bad that he doesn't finish his career in Green Bay.
i really want to see him finish his career in Green Bay, i think thats only fitting. But at this current pace of how things are going, the best things for the packers as an organization are to move on, and that can only happen really with a trade.
It annoys me to see Brett acting so selfishly.
Ken Masters
Jul 24 2008, 10:16 PM
QUOTE (Voyou San @ Jul 24 2008, 06:19 AM)

i really want to see him finish his career in Green Bay, i think thats only fitting. But at this current pace of how things are going, the best things for the packers as an organization are to move on, and that can only happen really with a trade.
It annoys me to see Brett acting so selfishly.
If they do trade, it'll probably for receivers and OL guys, the Packers need it. I mean Driver and Jennings can't do all the receiving in the WR corps, and well they're OL it's good but not great.
Valince
Jul 25 2008, 03:16 PM
As an aside..I wonder what more he wants. He has everything. The all-time leader in just about every passing category, even yards. 3(?) superbowl rings, and the only one to have 2(correct me here) superbowl MVPs. Maybe he is inflicted with JRS: Jerry Rice Syndrome. I.E. don't know when to quit.
Ken Masters
Jul 25 2008, 11:01 PM
QUOTE (Valince @ Jul 25 2008, 03:16 PM)

As an aside..I wonder what more he wants. He has everything. The all-time leader in just about every passing category, even yards. 3(?) superbowl rings, and the only one to have 2(correct me here) superbowl MVPs. Maybe he is inflicted with JRS: Jerry Rice Syndrome. I.E. don't know when to quit.
Well I think it's because of the last season he still wants to play, Favre knows he can compete competitively against the elite quarterbacks out there even at his age. I'm guessing he doesn't wanna do the Barry Sanders thing and quit while you're ahead, and finish strong (Perhaps that last interception is bugging him).
Dragon Brigade
Aug 7 2008, 08:28 AM
Ken Masters
Aug 7 2008, 12:17 PM
Completely under the table, I didn't see this coming at all.
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