LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 11:14 AM
Just saw it on the Kotaku Live Blog. Freaking awesome for anyone on the fence. Oh and the internet Explodes!
Phisix
Jul 14 2008, 11:17 AM
A link would be nice. Was that official clarification from Square-Enix?
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 11:30 AM
Wada said it himself. Look at the bottom of the live blog:
I'm trying to get the link, but it seems that the news is crashing Kotaku. Just click on the link that says "Live Bloging Microsft e3..."
The Evil Dead
Jul 14 2008, 11:31 AM
You're the only one that explodes. Your sperm is on your 360, clean it.
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E3 Sorry, Sony. The Xbox 360 is finally going to get a blockbuster RPG. Square has announced at the Microsoft press conference that
Final Fantasy XIII is going to be released on Xbox 360 the same day as PS3 in North America and Europe. What a huge coup for Microsoft, and what a great piece of news for Xbox 360 owners who also happen to be great console RPG lovers.
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 11:33 AM
If it's better on PS3, I will get that version. Huge loss for Sony and giant gain for MS.
The Evil Dead
Jul 14 2008, 11:35 AM
I don't know what I care more about. This announcement or your frequent Sony hating. Sell your PS3.
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 11:39 AM
There are still a lot of games I want on the PS3, they are just taking forever to come out. MS seems to announce and then release which is good. Hell there are simply a lot of RPGs on 360.
Picture from conference.
Hyoushitsu
Jul 14 2008, 11:44 AM
Nice. I'd held out hope, but I never really expected it to happen.
And so the already meager number of exclusives that compel me to eventually purchase a PS3 dwindles by yet another.
Hm. It's possible I may not even need to get a PS3 at this rate....
Though it will be awesome to watch fanboys for the next several weeks. 360 fanboys are going "lolololol PS3 is DEAD lololol!" and PS3 fanboys are just "ZOMG Squeenix SCREWED us over WTF!!!!". Honestly, some people are retarded.
The Evil Dead
Jul 14 2008, 11:47 AM
You're right. Don't get a PS3. Let Sony die. Obviously they've just been terrible to us for generations.
AnimePaul
Jul 14 2008, 11:51 AM
Probably the biggest news coming out of the 360 conference. I'm surprised Sony let this happen considering how big FFXIII is. I have a feeling 360 fanboys all over the internet are rejoicing and talking more ##### about the PS3 now that this has happened. It looks like exclusive games are going to far and few between.
Phisix
Jul 14 2008, 11:52 AM
Only a few games that will permit me to get a PS3. I can't imagine Final Fantasy on an Xbox, until now. Doesnt bother either way really as long as I have one of the versions.
Athrun
Jul 14 2008, 11:53 AM
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 09:33 PM)

If it's better on PS3, I will get that version. Huge loss for Sony and giant gain for MS.
Considering you chose the Xbox version with Yoda over Darth Vader, and the Xbox version of Megaman 9 (which has a
horrendous D-pad), I guess the game must be barely playable on 360 for you to consider the PS3 version better?
Lol, anyway I guess I'll believe it when I see it.
As for the announcement, I'm surprised since the announcement came so late. And I figured Sony wanted to keep that one and discussed it with Square years ago. Well it's not like it affects me though, but I bet it would have been smarter for them to keep that one.
AnimePaul
Jul 14 2008, 11:54 AM
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 12:39 PM)

There are still a lot of games I want on the PS3, they are just taking forever to come out. MS seems to announce and then release which is good. Hell there are simply a lot of RPGs on 360.
The 360 got a year head start so it isn't surprising that more games are coming out for it.
The Evil Dead
Jul 14 2008, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (AnimePaul @ Jul 14 2008, 02:51 PM)

Probably the biggest news coming out of the 360 conference. I'm surprised Sony let this happen considering how big FFXIII is. I have a feeling 360 fanboys all over the internet are rejoicing and talking more ##### about the PS3 now that this has happened. It looks like exclusive games are going to far and few between.
I doubt they just let it happen. The lack of consumer support for Sony this generation probably is the reasoning. It's a joke. So many went apeshit over the PS1/2 and rightly so, but since the PS3 seemingly cost an ungodly amount ( Even though I could afford a first run PS3 ) Sony is eating the dust this generation.
I'm getting a 360 again but I'm still a strong Sony supporter. No other console developer has offered me the library they have had for generations.
Also the fairweather fanism is hilarious. I still remember when I had to fight to get an X-Box forum going and it was considered trash.
LagunaWannabe
Jul 14 2008, 11:55 AM
Maybe Square is finally realizing that there is more of a market for the 360 and FF13 would sell better.
I wonder if Versus is still solely for PS3 or if thats for 360 too. haha
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 11:59 AM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Jul 14 2008, 02:53 PM)

QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 09:33 PM)

If it's better on PS3, I will get that version. Huge loss for Sony and giant gain for MS.
Considering you chose the Xbox version with Yoda over Darth Vader, and the Xbox version of Megaman 9 (which has a
horrendous D-pad), I guess the game must be barely playable on 360 for you to consider the PS3 version better?
Lol, anyway I guess I'll believe it when I see it.
As for the announcement, I'm surprised since the announcement came so late. And I figured Sony wanted to keep that one and discussed it with Square years ago. Well it's not like it affects me though, but I bet it would have been smarter for them to keep that one.
Truth be told, if they are both great games, I might even end up getting them on both platforms ( I own VF 5 for both systems).
AnimePaul
Jul 14 2008, 12:09 PM
QUOTE (LagunaWannabe @ Jul 14 2008, 11:55 AM)

Maybe Square is finally realizing that there is more of a market for the 360 and FF13 would sell better.
I wonder if Versus is still solely for PS3 or if thats for 360 too. haha
I would not be surprised if Versus also went multi-platform. It looks like the days of exclusive third party games will be the thing of the past. Next up for Microsoft would be trying to get MGS4 to come to the 360. You got to feel bad for Sony because they had the most to lose this generation after the huge success of the PS2. First it was GTA4, DMC4 and now FFXIII.
Mushroom
Jul 14 2008, 12:13 PM
Smart smart move by SE. I'm guessing they looked at GTA4 and MGS4, and decided what side of the fence they want their sales to be on. Both got critical acclaim, but GTA4 sold huge on not one but two consoles. If FFXIII can work on both, why not release on both? I have a PS3, and as long as I can play FFXIII, i'm not too bothered what else its out on, i have a 360 at home anyway. Huge announcement for sure.
If I'm going to be critical though, one thing jumps to mind: MGS4 never went to 260 because it was simply too big, too expansive, and tyhe game quality shows that. If FFXIII can be moved to another console theeeen that kinda says its not gonna be that big, which is worrying. But I have no evidence of that yet, so i'm not too worried.
Otherwise, excellent news, means me and my bro can both play it and talk about it together.
Athrun
Jul 14 2008, 12:19 PM
It's not like PS3 has much of anything it can get from X360, so it will pretty much always be "360 gets the game" rather than the other way around. Halo? Lost Odesy? Gears of War? No, obviously not.
But it seems to be a cultural thing for the US to go for Xbox over PS3 at the rate it's going. It has about twice the sales of PS3 in the US. It doesn't look that way anywhere else on the globe. It looks almost like Japans cultural bias, but reversed. In Europe and "Other" regions, the PS3 sells at a faster rate than X360, so it's almost caught up. So I don't see any other reason why it would be so different in the US. Microsoft own MSNBC, so of course they'll always say that PS3 is crap and X360 is better, and people buy into that, etc.
But on the other hand, due to all of that, it's come to the point where the consoles actually are pretty equal, so it's not wrong to claim that they're pretty much equal game wise. And Sony have themselves to blame as well for selling it at 600 initially.
Anyway, if Final Fantasy XIII works well on 360, then why not? It's the main game in the XIII project among all the compilation titles, so it's probably something Xbox owners would want to play as well, along with whichever other XIII compilation title they are getting in the future. (I'm assuming it's getting one.)
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 12:19 PM
This is huge news for 360 owners. I wonder if Sony and S-E will have a huge announcement tomorrow for PS3; perhaps the infamous FF7 remake?
Grahf
Jul 14 2008, 12:21 PM
From what I've heard of Microsoft's press conference, this seems to be the only noteworthy thing that was said (woohoo for remodeling dashboard/copying the Mii idea!). I'm sure I haven't heard everything from MS's conference though, so I'll still have to look around a bit.
As for Versus being on both 360 and PS3, you would think they would announce that its going to go multiplatform the same time as FFXIII if they were going to at all. Not saying its not gonna happen, but I have this feeling that the purpose of Versus is now to give the people who bought a PS3 basically for FFXIII an exclusive FF game. Thats just my theory though.
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 12:22 PM
It could be that PS3 gets VS and 360 gets SO4.
Mushroom
Jul 14 2008, 12:25 PM
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 12:19 PM)

This is huge news for 360 owners. I wonder if Sony and S-E will have a huge announcement tomorrow for PS3; perhaps the infamous FF7 remake?
Hahahah, duuuude, don't even go there XD thats too much to hope for haha.
I agree with the point that console exclusive games are quite irrelevent these days now, i've felt that for awhile. Almost all big games are now multiformat, and for good reason. Its really the hardware and online service thats the deciding point now.
Just to clarify in my last post, i didn't mean i don't think FFXIII will be small as in length XD I thought it may comes across like that when its read. I mean not as big as in, the production values. I want the biggest pwnful rpg ever outy of this generation of consoles XD I wan a game thatwould be 14 discs on the 360 XD
AnimePaul
Jul 14 2008, 12:26 PM
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 12:19 PM)

This is huge news for 360 owners. I wonder if Sony and S-E will have a huge announcement tomorrow for PS3; perhaps the infamous FF7 remake?
I doubt a FF7 remake considering how much SE has on their plate right now. It was reported that they are allocating as many people as possible to help on FFXIII.
Verner
Jul 14 2008, 12:38 PM
Looks like Versus 13 will only go to the PS3, and FF13 is only coming to the 360 in the United States.
Interesting news, nonetheless. It's a smart move on Squeenix's part, but I wonder how much it'll slow down the dev process. It was said that production would begin on the 360 version AFTER the PS3 version had been translated, right? And it was noted that the PS3 and the 360 would have a simultaneous release in the States.
Hopefully it doesn't bog things down too much. =\
EDIT: I realized it sounded like I'm saying FF13 wasn't coming to the PS3. Not the case, lol. the 360 version will only be released in the US. PS3 everywhere, but 360 only in US.
Mushroom
Jul 14 2008, 12:43 PM
F*ck that btw. If the FFXIII ps3 version is ready first I want it asap XD I understand wanting to treat the fans equal but I'm dyin gto play it haha. i'm reading the ign report update aswell, but Its a bit vague. Hopefully things are enated up and translatged better later.
EDIT: wait what? ITs only coming out on 360 in the US?? Kinda makes sense but I didn't get that from the report.
Athrun
Jul 14 2008, 12:44 PM
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 10:19 PM)

This is huge news for 360 owners. I wonder if Sony and S-E will have a huge announcement tomorrow for PS3; perhaps the infamous FF7 remake?
I doubt that. They said that they discussed a FF7 remake, and they agreed that they'd need to have the original team working on it for it to turn out good. And since everyone's busy with FFXII and Versus, it would have to be after those games are finished.
QUOTE (Verner @ Jul 14 2008, 10:38 PM)

EDIT: I realized it sounded like I'm saying FF13 wasn't coming to the PS3. Not the case, lol. the 360 version will only be released in the US. PS3 everywhere, but 360 only in US.
Really? Well that's kind of funny because it goes well with what I said above about X360's situation in the US.
Do you have any link to that information?
QUOTE (Verner @ Jul 14 2008, 10:38 PM)

Interesting news, nonetheless. It's a smart move on Squeenix's part, but I wonder how much it'll slow down the dev process. It was said that production would begin on the 360 version AFTER the PS3 version had been translated, right? And it was noted that the PS3 and the 360 would have a simultaneous release in the States.
Would that mean that FF 13 is released in Japan and Europe a few months ahead of the US version?
That would be a first, but very ironic.
Wein Cruz
Jul 14 2008, 12:49 PM
Well, damn. FFXIII was the main reason I was going to eventually get a PS3, but now what's the point? Let's face it, Xbox360 is the RPG console to get at this point. =p
Verner
Jul 14 2008, 12:50 PM
QUOTE (Mushroom @ Jul 14 2008, 01:43 PM)

EDIT: wait what? ITs only coming out on 360 in the US?? Kinda makes sense but I didn't get that from the report.
Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
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Hashimoto says something like "I think you are right [in assuming that it's not coming out in Japan]"
Hashimoto: As I have already mentioned, considering that the install base was one of the reasons why decided to release it in the West on the Xbox 360..
And as for Versus 13:
Question: "Will FF Versus 13 be multi plat?"
Hashimoto: No.
EDIT: Getting all my information from kotaku.
http://kotaku.com/5025033/liveblogging-squ...ress-conference
Athrun
Jul 14 2008, 12:53 PM
QUOTE (Wein Cruz @ Jul 14 2008, 10:49 PM)

Well, damn. FFXIII was the main reason I was going to eventually get a PS3, but now what's the point? Let's face it, Xbox360 is the RPG console to get at this point. =p
Let's face it, you can't count, yes?
Xbox: Lost Odesy, Blue Dragon, Trusty Bell, Star Ocean 4, Tales of Vesperia.
PS3: Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3, White Knight Story, FF XIII Versus, Tales of *something*.
It looks about the same to me, unless you're speaking from a personal preference.
AnimePaul
Jul 14 2008, 12:54 PM
I think people are getting confused from the live blog. Why would they only release FFXIII on the 360 in NA? FFXIII is multi-platform, not 360 exclusive in NA.
Mushroom
Jul 14 2008, 12:54 PM
Thanks for the clarification man, had a little difficulty making out what was being said in the updates. Makes sense though, since the ps3 out sells the 360 everywhere else. Weird though, if they're developing it for 360, may as well release it in europe and japan as well, ge tthe maximum out of sales. Maybe its part of a deal we're not hearing the details of.
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Jul 14 2008, 03:44 PM)

Would that mean that FF 13 is released in Japan and Europe a few months ahead of the US version?
That would be a first, but very ironic.
360 version is coming to USA, Europe
PS3 version is coming to USA, Europe, Japan
Same launch day for all versions.
Verner
Jul 14 2008, 12:57 PM
I dunno, dude. Hashimoto says that it's not going to be on the 360 in Japan because of the user base. He makes it sound like it'll be on the 360 only in the US, but they leave out Europe (lol, which really sucks). so maybe it'll get the release in Europe as well.
He's also stated that he wants the release dates to be as close as possible for NA and Europe.
EDIT: saw LM's post. That clears it up, I was getting confused, lol.
AnimePaul
Jul 14 2008, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (Mushroom @ Jul 14 2008, 12:54 PM)

Thanks for the clarification man, had a little difficulty making out what was being said in the updates. Makes sense though, since the ps3 out sells the 360 everywhere else. Weird though, if they're developing it for 360, may as well release it in europe and japan as well, ge tthe maximum out of sales. Maybe its part of a deal we're not hearing the details of.
They probably won't release FFXIII for the 360 in Japan since that system is pretty much dead from what they have said.
The Evil Dead
Jul 14 2008, 12:58 PM
Not to mention later on in the system's career I imagine there will be the landslide of RPG's, per the last two generations as it'll be cheaper to develop for the console.
Well that is if you all don't slay Sony.
Mushroom
Jul 14 2008, 01:01 PM
Bah. You guys are confusing me XD
Athrun
Jul 14 2008, 01:07 PM
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 10:57 PM)

360 version is coming to USA, Europe
PS3 version is coming to USA, Europe, Japan
Same launch day for all versions.
I thought it said that both versions will have the same launch date in the states. And that the production of the X360 port will start
after the PS3 version is already translated.
If so, would they hold off the release of the game in Japan and Europe just to wait for the US X360 version to finish when that game will have no effect on those regions?
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 01:10 PM

Here is the picture from the conference.
Athrun
Jul 14 2008, 01:14 PM
Oh so it'll be on Xbox in America and Europe? In that case we might see it released in Japan several months before the US and European release.
Well Mushroom, you were wondering if the Xbox production would hold the game back somehow. Don't know if it will technologically. But it looks it might delay the game for English speaking gamers for a few months extra. =/
~Edit~
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Question: How will the Xbox 360 and the PS3 versions be different?
Says Kitase: We planned on having the contents the same, but obviously the Blu-ray and the DVD will be different.
I guess this means you probably don't have to worry about them making the game smaller on the PS3, Shroom. I think it's only a matter of splitting up the game on multiple discs for the X360 version. Rpg's are usually linear, so it'll probably work fine.
Mushroom
Jul 14 2008, 01:19 PM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Jul 14 2008, 02:14 PM)

Oh so it'll be on Xbox in America and Europe? In that case we might see it released in Japan several months before the US and European release.
Well Mushroom, you were wondering if the Xbox production would hold the game back somehow. Don't know if it will technologically. But it looks it might delay the game for English speaking gamers for a few months extra. =/
Indeed, looks like if they can develope for 360 ech wont be a problem, but theyre saying right there itll be ready for PS3 first. >< give it to us then haha.
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 01:19 PM
And don't forget multiple installs on the PS3
The Evil Dead
Jul 14 2008, 01:26 PM
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 04:19 PM)

And don't forget multiple installs on the PS3

Die already. Seriously.
Is the game even going to be big enough to be put on multiple DVD's?
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 01:28 PM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Jul 14 2008, 03:53 PM)

QUOTE (Wein Cruz @ Jul 14 2008, 10:49 PM)

Well, damn. FFXIII was the main reason I was going to eventually get a PS3, but now what's the point? Let's face it, Xbox360 is the RPG console to get at this point. =p
Let's face it, you can't count, yes?
Xbox: Lost Odesy, Blue Dragon, Trusty Bell, Star Ocean 4, Tales of Vesperia.
PS3: Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 3, White Knight Story, FF XIII Versus, Tales of *something*.
It looks about the same to me, unless you're speaking from a personal preference.
You forgot Infinite Undiscovery, Cry-On, Spectral Force 3, Zoids Attack, Operation Darkness, Culdcept Saga...
That's not also including the Western RPG Titles (Fable 2, Mass Effect (2 might go multi-plat), Too Human)
QUOTE
Die already. Seriously.
Chill dude. That comment was put forth towards Athurn's Multiple Disk comment.
Athrun
Jul 14 2008, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 11:28 PM)

You forgot Infinite Undiscovery, Cry-On, Spectral Force 3, Zoids Attack, Operation Darkness, Culdcept Saga...
That's not also including the Western RPG Titles (Fable 2, Mass Effect (2 might go multi-plat), Too Human)
I just mentioned the big titles. That's why I didn't mention Folklore for PS3 for example.
I forgot Infinite Undiscovery though. But the point is that one game here or there doesn't justify a statement like "Let's face it, Xbox360 is the RPG console to get at this point."
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 11:19 PM)

And don't forget multiple installs on the PS3

I haven't heard anything to suggest that Konami's patching system is something that is necessary for other games.
Just because one game has it doesn't mean that every other will. Multi disc is something you can't escape on X360 for bigger games though. And why are you telling me that? It was the Square exec. who said it.
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 01:45 PM
I'm pretty sure FF13 will have at least one install. I seriously hope they don't go with the multiple installs like MGS4 (still a great game, but that sucked).
Cry-On is Mistwalker's next project so that will probably be a big game. Even if the other games are not huge hitters, they are still additional JRPGs (well some are technically Strategy RPGs like Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles).
AnimePaul
Jul 14 2008, 01:48 PM
QUOTE (Athrun @ Jul 14 2008, 02:36 PM)

I haven't heard anything to suggest that Konami's patching system is something that is necessary for other games.
Just because one game has it doesn't mean that every other will. Multi disc is something you can't escape on X360 for bigger games though. And why are you telling me that? It was the Square exec. who said it.
Why was Lost Odyssey multiple discs? Weren't they using the in game engine for the cut-scenes? I would not be surprised if the 360 version of FFXIII was on multiple discs and the PS3 had installs.
LunarMaster
Jul 14 2008, 01:50 PM
Some in-game, some CG movies in Lost Odyssey. That and it comes in like 5 different spoken languages.
AnimePaul
Jul 14 2008, 01:50 PM
QUOTE (LunarMaster @ Jul 14 2008, 02:45 PM)

I'm pretty sure FF13 will have at least one install. I seriously hope they don't go with the multiple installs like MGS4 (still a great game, but that sucked).
What were wrong with the installs for MGS4? The first one was 8 minutes long and the rest were only two minutes long. Within those two minutes you could probably go grab something to drink and it would be done installing when you get back. I'd bet there would have been a lot more moaning and groaning if you had one big install at the beginning, but instead it was spread out into small chunks.
The Evil Dead
Jul 14 2008, 01:58 PM
They're going to have 5 hours worth of installs just to spite you and your precious time, Lunar.
Seriously the installs for games aren't that bad and it's not like they're just doing it for the lulz.
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