I just don't understand how some people can do such horrible things. It's just beyond me. School shootings, church shootings, horrible murders and just all around craziness. I can't imagine what is going on inside the heads of these people and what could possibly drive them to madness. Some do it for fame, some for revenge, and some just for no apparent reason at all.

I usually give people the benefit of the doubt. I love people. I love to be around others as much as possible. I love to ride buses with others and the like. But there are some people out there who are just so out of it and could snap at any time and you never know who it could be or when it could happen. Of course, you can't live in fear every day but that thought is pretty scary.

What prompted me to create this topic is that in Canada a man, a big scary man, for no apparent reason as all ( as far as everyone knows at the moment ) stabbed a man to death on a Greyhound bus with a huge Rambo like knife. He stabbed him 40-50 times in front of everybody and even went so far as to cut his off and walk around the bus with it. WTF?!? The victim was only 19 years old, was only keeping to himself and was apparently sleeping and listening to music on his headphones at the time of the incident. Witnesses say that there was no tension between the two. They only spoke once when the killer asked the victim if he could sit there and the guy woke up and said sure and then went back to sleep. The killing happened not too long after.

link to article : http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/07/....bus/index.html

Why would someone do such a thing? It's amazing how sick some people really are. What are your thoughts on this matter?

I can understand revenge, but to kill a man whom he apparently saw for the first time is just useless.

I read the news post, and even watched the video, people like that are absolutely horrifying. It scares me because I was on a greyhound doing the same thing earlier this year, and to think that someone was randomly attacked and beheaded doing the same thing I was, is terrifying... The thought that I was in the same position as the victim, one of the reasons I don't like socializing with the outside world.

Humans truly are amusing creatures.

Every time a story like that one pops up, it makes me chuckle. It's a (seemingly) random act, and it only makes it all the more interesting. I love reading things like this. The guy just whipped out a knife and stabbed an innocent, defenseless man to death for apparently no reason. Setting aside the brutality and pointlessness of the act, it really only leaves the comedy in it behind.

This is why I so enjoy playing the role of the hermit, just sitting back and watching the futility of the human race unfold.

Yeah, decapitating someone for no reason is totally hilarious.

This kind of stuff is totally crazy. I guess the only comforting thing about this is that stuff like this doesn't happen on a regular basis.

Wow yeah, that is so funny. I think that in the next American Pie movie, they should have someone kill a bunch of students in a scene, because it is hilarious.

Anyway, now to my serious point: these things happen. Some people simply aren't wise enough to think logically and need dramatic measures to fulfill their self-esteem.

Talk about random spontaneity...I dunno. It's a sad thing, so it's good it usually doesn't happen too often...

So are you actually saying the idea of a kid getting killed for no good reason is amusing? I've lost a close friend to a stabbing incident and believe me there's nothing funny about seeing a mum and dad bury their teenage son. If that's really how you think then you've got some serious growing up to do otherwise you can look forward to playing the lonely hermit for a very long time.

Here's someone that watched too much anime or played too many video games, never got out, never got laid, and decided, damn, I can be badass too in the dark of my living room. Nihilism isn't cool anymore. Get with the times. The only thing that's futile is pretending to be a hermit with the Internet.

As for the stabbing, there's nothing to say. Yes, it happened and it was terrible, but you can't do anything about it. Are you going to go around distrusting every stranger? Will you not pick up hitchhikers because you think they'll stab you, or you won't leave the house a lot because someone on the street could be a murderer that selects you as their next victim? No. And you shouldn't. Fact of the matter is, this doesn't happen every day. People get stabbed every day, I mean, but not randomly for no reason, but more like, during robberies and after being dicks to people with knives.

While the guy who got stabbed and got his head cut off probably didn't do anything wrong, the safest thing you can do is not be a dick. That's it. Or the opposite, be such a dick that no one bothers with you.



Don't think like that. You should not be afraid of ever getting stabbed by strangers. Socialize with other people, and I'll guarantee you that you'll never get stabbed unless you really suck at selecting your company or do something stupid, like not give the mugger your wallet.

Ha.

Yeah, When I have friends like Hyo, I don't have to worry about getting stabbed by strangers....

Oh noes. Someone insulted me over the internet. They even called me a virgin. I'd better go cry in the corner of the room now. Heh. It's clear that you got the memo that the internet is Serious Business.

And cloudycat, I'm sorry for your loss, but please don't go on to some judgmental tangent and pretend that you know the first thing about me. Thanks. :0)

At any rate, so as not to get the thread too off base, it's truly a shame that it happened. It was a senseless act that probably can't be justified under any circumstance. It's the worst for the victim's family, especially since he was so young. However, I don't find death tragic. The act itself is something I find intensely amusing. It really showcases what people are capable of, which is a subject I've always been quite fond of.

It's probably best if I take my leave of this thread, so as to deflect the possible escalation of flaming and/or topic derailment.

-derails-
-flames-
-takes names-

If the Internet was serious business I would be dead by now.

If you read what I said I asked if you really found that amusing and suggested that if you do then you need to grow up. A question and a suggestion is not a judgemental tangent. I could have gone on with insulting and ranting at you, but it would have been pointless and such stupid remarks deserve no such time and effort.

Cloudy Cat

Your entire post was:

wah wah wah....
Grow up...
You're sick...




That's pretty judgmental, and has little to do with the original post, which was asking how you responded (to the story) ... (and you can't judge Hyo solely on your infinitesimal understanding based entirely on a single post, the post was honest, and he never said he laughed at the parents, you did... )That, children, is what we like to call a Judgmental Tangent... Amazing how common sense works so readily against you... Oh, and the next time you decide to throw a judgmental dagger, take a good, long look in the mirror, you're 29, and still playing the pathetic 'mighty pedestal' card... just remember, that the higher you build that pedestal, the easier it is to knock you're judgmental ass off...

BACK ON TOPIC.....

It really does frighten me to think that anyone you come in contact with could snap... the killer probably had friends, can you imagine how they reacted? Finding out that someone they trusted just stabbed a random passenger, and then sliced his head off.... It's times like this that agoraphobia looks most appealing....

"Knock me off my mighty pedestal" eh? That's almost funny since you're calling me judgemental, but OK whatever you say.



Another comment that made your post one of the most ironic I've read on these boards, (aside from the fact that I didn't make a judgemental statement). You follow up by saying that I'm 29(true lol) and still playing the pedestal card despite the fact that what you wrote is a pile of bollocks you write that as if in your infinite wisdom (of 19 years and not going out by your own admission by the way) that you some how know me based on my post which you got arse backwards anyway

Like I said I made a suggestion, asked a question and not once did I say he was sick. I also said that the parents of the boy wouldn't find it particularly amusing and not once did I say he laughed at the parents so I think you'll find that you actually said that not me. So again if that's not quite clear enough for you, I didn't make a judgement.

Do yourself a favour, try to fully understand what is written before you go off on one and make yourself look a little bit stupid by ranting irrelevantly like that. You know, use some of that common sense you're talking about.

No, you're right. What you said wasn't really all that judgmental. A poor excuse, but I was tired and having a bad day when I posted earlier. I took your post fairly out of context. I apologize.

But so much for the thread not going into the craphouse, eh? :\

Don't worry man, I shouldn't have come across as giving you a lecture so apologies to you too. I took it far too personally, with my buddy getting killed, I shouldn't have laid that on here.

You can always blame Fate.
Go go biological determinism!

Whoa I didn't expect so much tension in this topic. I apologize for making it. I got kinda crazy about the whole situation myself. Guess I shouldn't have made this topic. My bad. I have to start thinking more before I make topics. lol.

It's just terrifying to think about stuff like this. Every day I turn on the news and hear about someone being killed in a horrific manner - mostly innocent people going about their daily business only to be killed by a random act of agression. It's sad, and I sure as hell hate going anywhere alone nowadays. It's not so bad during the day, but I never go anywhere alone at night. It's just too risky.

As for public transport, I rarely use it - there always seems to be one random idiot hurling abuse at other passengers. Heck, the last time I got a bus someone got up and punched the window than sat back down even though his hand was bleeding as if nothing had happened.

How Hyo found any amusement out of this incident I have no idea whatsoever. I wonder if he'd be laughing if it was someone he knew perhaps? While I am not stricken about this as I did not know the person, I fail to see how it is comical.

Purity, stop defending an idiot.

Who knows what makes people snap like that, but it happens. Still as Denim said, it doesn't make me afraid to hop on a bus (which I detest anyway as they are very uncomfortable and usually way too long a trip.)

Yeah, something like this can happen anywhere at anytime. But you can't live in fear everyday of your life. Mental health isn't really looked at as much as physical. When people start having problems and their behavior starts getting weird something needs to be done. Either themselves or someone else should have them seek some kind of help. This kind of thing always happens because people don't get the help that they desperately need. Mental health is much more difficult to monitor than physical health but something can be done.

the 'people suxx!' crowd is almost as funny as the 'everyone is my friend' crowd.

you all really need to get out more.

this single event does not define what humanity is, and neither does anything else (war, dubya, etc..)

true story.