As noted in the topic sub-title, spoilers are no doubt going to be in this topic, so you've been warned. ~

I know the movie's not coming out til November or whatever, but I thought a topic is in order anyway. Maybe discussion can spur. I'm really not too interested in the movie (given how the last ones have turned out, though they are getting a better), but I'm going to see it for a few of those special actors/actresses that I wouldn't miss the crappiest movie for (ie: Helena Bonham Carter. <3 ).

One of the recent trailer things showed the actor who's going to be the little Tom Riddle, and I think he'll probably do a good job. Apparently he's the nephew or something of Ralph Fiennes, who *is* Voldemort. Interesting tid-bits with that, and I think other Fiennes relations will be in the movie as the Riddles or something.

Anyway, the latest trailer can be found here: http://media.movies.ign.com/media/040/040311/vids_1.html

Will anybody else go to see this movie? I will (for Bellatrix + others), though I'd just as soon wait til it comes out on DVD and my brother/parents get it. It's more or less tradition that my family will go with some cousins to the Harry Potter movies, so I'll be going anyway. And hey, maybe it won't turn out so bad. I mean, they have been steadily getting better, so...Yeah. I'll wait to judge the movie til I've seen it though. It may surprise me, who knows. >.>.


Any general thoughts (good or ill) on the upcoming movie?

I'm ABSOLUTELY going to the next movie. I love the new ones MORE than the old ones, just because the actors are older now, I feel like I can connect better. But I think the next few movies will kick serious ass, im excited

midnight showing here i come, i have loved everyone one of the movies so far so i am sure this will be the same.

Oh, looks like this is delayed until next summer.

well this is def. #####, it really is. I wanted to see this movie so bad this year and now i have to wait until next July?!?!

Waiting till July helps them reach a wider audience??? HUh?

bah

By the sounds of it they've simply pushed it forward because in the summer season it makes more money. Simple as that. To tell te truth I don't blame them, the writers strike as they said was tough on everyone, and in such a situation I would do the same thing. In the meantime I guess we will all have to wait, but who knows, with such a long wait, the last one might be out not long after this one. I mean, they will have started filming on it soon I think.

I think that was one of the reasons they pushed it back. There'd be less time in between the sixth and then the two-part seventh.

I guess I'm not really complaining though. It'll come out when it comes out. *shrugs*

Books are always better if you're into re-reading things, which I am. And 6 was indeed one of the darker books for an older target audience, so it wasn't that bad. The effects will be most intersting in this film I'm sure as there are a lot of things in the book I'm looking forward to seeing them pull off in screen.

I've only really been in Harry Potter for Bellatrix Lestrange, and some of the more darker characters. I will definitely be interested in seeing what they can do as far as special effects and whatnot.

Here are some stills from the movie, just for kicks. Starting with my favorite, Bella:



Young Tom Riddle:



Malfoy, looking a little contemplative:



He who looks like Slughorn, with Harry, Ron, and Ginny:



If IGN had more of Helena Bonham Carter, I'd have posted those up instead. *Sigh*.

this movie is going to make record money no matter when you release it, its Harry Freaking Potter

Bloody Brilliant!!!!! I don't know. I'm not that HUGE of a fan, I just like magic and griffens and stuff.

Their acting is TERRIBLE.

But yes, I will see it. Not opening night, doesn't make a difference if I already knows what happens. I'm not exactly a die-hard fan. They just make for good entertainment I suppose.

I don't like the fact that they pushed the date, because I don't really get why it would make more money. As far as I'm concerned, with the completion of the final book like.. forever ago, the Harry Potter hype seems to be slowly dying out.
Unless their tactic is to wait and build up tension and then BOOM. 25 year olds playing 12th grade roles!

The adult actors, kid actors, or both?

I don't know about the hype dying down and maybe they plan to market it more.. though this movie needs no marketing. Just give the people a date and they will go see it.

Kid actors. The adult actors are good. Just the kids suck.
Except for Luna Lovegood. She's amazing.

But Voyou, there is a difference between Hype, and seeing a movie.
With hype, there are die hard fans screaming and jumping around in the 2 hour line for the midnight showing, dressed as wizards and witches. There the ones that commonly see the movie more than once.
Without hype, there are the average "Oh yeah Harry Potter, I'll go see it because it's fecking Harry Potter and it's whats expected."
What makes more money to you?
Of course they'll get a shitfuckton of money and viewers either way. But would you rather your movie be a cult fanatic film or a "Oh yeah that movie from that series" type of movie.

I'm glad you said that, she was gold.

I will probably watch this movie months and months later when my parents buy the dvd. Until then it isn't on my radar.
Reason - I just haven't enjoyed the others. Definitely my kind of book but just not my kind of movie. But to be fair, it does perk my interest more then the others, looks quite well done from the trailer.

i honestly dont care if the movie is a fanatical fan type of movie, i just care if its good.

Then I'd agree with you. =P.

I don't mind some of the other kid actors (Tom Felton; Rupert Grint actually doesn't do that horribly out of the "main trio", he's actually had more parts that require actually acting out; and a few others), but the girl who did Luna has been, by far, the best. Eve Lynch I think was her name. Most of the others are alright, but Dan is the one who I mostly don't like (acting-wise). But that's also (maybe) partly because I don't like Harry as a character anyway, so seeing a movie dedicated to him isn't my cup of tea. xD.

But yeah. The adult actors are the ones that save the movie for me (Hellllennna!). To me it already is just "something to watch", so...yeah...

/ramble

They keep getting better with each movie though. So this one *does* look better than the others. Darker. Hoo-rah.

I was speaking in terms of Hollywood and box office ratings.

true.. but its still lame decision

Sadly, Harry may be the most developed character in that book, but he is still a very shallow character... I think she tried to aim her book at the 'tortured soul' a little too much... I think they cast Luna very well, aloof, but intelligent. (Her name is Evanna Lynch, but yeah, I think she goes by Eve...)

I would ramble and rant about how Helena, along with Gary Oldman, Alan Rickman, Maggie Smith, and Imelda Ataunton, (Sirius, Severus, McGonagall, and Umbridge respectively) all shined very brightly, but if you look hard enough you can find that very rant somewhere else on this forum.... it also includes a rant about replacing Richard Harris with Michael Gambon was a crime punishable by death.... or at least a severe flogging... But alas, I have neither the time nor energy required... Now I adjourn to reading others rant endlessly... Farewell, until my next randomly timed rant/ramble...

I know, that's the worst part. xD. She spent the most time with him (understandably), but there were a lot of other characters (Bellatrix fangirlism in!) who she should've given more limelight to, or at least tried to delve into them more instead of just describing all of Harry's hateful thoughts of them.

And I do remember your post from in the Writing forum. =P. Richard Harris was a good Dumbledore, but you can't exactly do much once they die. >.o. I don't much mind Gambon, but that might be because I'm not familiar with his past endeavors. He gives a very different Dumbledore, but I don't mind him too much...

But whatever. *shrugs*

I actually went to the auditions for the role of Harry Potter. I'll be so bold as to say I'm sure I would've been a better actor than Daniel Radcliffe (and wouldn't be acting idiotic offscreen like he does) but whatever. Back on topic! I'm really looking forward to the next movie. The movies have definitely done the books justice, and I've enjoyed each one so far aside from Daniel's awful attempts at acting.

I'm not too bothered about the release date being changed - I'll see it when it comes out with some friends, and then probably have to go see it a second time to take my little sister to see it as well. I just hope the movie stays or keeps close to the 'dark' aspects of the books.

Did you really? That's cool. =). My brother actually looks the part himself (people always tell him that, too); attitude and all. >.o. Maybe that's why I don't like the character Harry, haha...

I like Gambon too, but as Hyo, Fetch and I discussed: Gambon is simply not as good, still a great actor...


P.S. You seem to have contracted a serious case of Helena Bonham Cater-fangirl-ism.....nes.... ocity... syndrome...

Haha, I know. =p. I actually am being slightly over-exaggerating with all of my Hellllllennnnna drooling, but I seriously do have a lot of respect for her in pretty much every regard.

And I agree on Gambon.

Bellatrix is an interesting character, definitely one of the coolest villians in the series. I just hope she gets a decent amount of screentime! Bah, I need to rewatch the other movies before this one comes out. I guess I have a long wait though.

Actually I find that amongst the kids acting, Emma Watson's is rather amazing, especially when she surprised me in the Goblet of Fire in that prom dress. She looked really pretty. Also the next kid actor I like to compliment is Matthew Lewis(Neville) I find that his acting is good too =)

Lol. I think Helena is a really suitable actress for Bellatrix. Her Acting in fightclub is superb.

Emma Watson does a good job with Hermione's character, but Hermione as a character genuinely bothers me. Not sure why. She's bearable, yet...yeah. Dunno. Lewis does a good job with Neville though, I do agree on that.

Speaking of him...Did you guys hear about that incident where Helena (oh yes, I must mention her at least once in each post!) was improvising in the part where Bellatrix was holding onto Neville so that he wouldn't run off and she was going to put her wand in his ear, and just as she did that, he moved to the left, and she punctured his eardrum (went temporarily deaf; Helena said afterwards (this was in an interview that I "happened upon".) that it had been a stupid and dangerous idea on her part, but there were no hard feelings from him about it.).. (end of the fifth movie)

Don't mess with Bellatrix Lestrange, Longbottom, she already did your parents in for!

Oh, and I just googled, here's that interview of what was in the spoiler part. xD.

Interview. I wish they would have included quite a bit of stuff in the extra cut-scenes. Would have been funny...

New International Trailer

Just a teaser, but it's something new. =).

hehe, in response to some of the things that's been said here, I first must say that Richard Harris IS and always will be dumbledore <3 it was sad to see him go...I think the new dumbledore is too...I'm not sure how to put it...too "loud and forceful" in his speaking and actions....

as far as emma for hermione....emma is a dear really, and not to put anything down, but she's too pretty for hermione... in the books, she's portrayed as this geeky girl with bushy hair and large front teeth....because emma is already someone who is beautiful, I think hermione's moment in the 4th movie where she appears at the top of the stairs in her dress was kind of ruined. in the book, she actually had her teeth fixed through magic, her hair was straightened and tied in a knot style, her posture was right for that night (it's always pointed out how she was slumped over a little because she was carrying around so many books in her bag). so instead of this HUGE magical transformation, it went from this "beautiful girl in school robes" to "beautiful girl in a dress". the dress was gorgeous of course and she looked stunning...and I understand that they didn't really cast a "less attractive" girl for the role because everyone who stars in movies kind of has to be beautiful...but for those of you who read the books, maybe someone feels the same way I do?

I was very shocked when I heard that the movie was pushed back...I don't think it's going to make a bit of difference whether it's in winter or summer. it's harry potter. people are going to see it no matter what. hardcore fans or people who are simply familiar with the name and want to see it simply so they can partake in all the conversations that will be going on about it.

Y'know, I'd never really considered that. I think it's just been so long since I've read any of the more introductory books in the series that I'd forgotten some of those descriptions. Though, I've never really concerned myself over those types of intricacies, mostly because they're usually going to be ignored, and the only people who will notice are the ones who've read the books. I think it'd have added more of an effect in the fourth book when they have the ball, certainly, but overall I think they managed to make up for it in the sense that they make Hermione shier somewhat, and really quite removed from what the other females might be interested in (if that sort of makes sense? That's just my intake, dunno if anybody else would particularly agree.). You see a gorgeous Hermione rather than a nerd-ish Hermione; you see a beautiful, shy, yet confident (and slightly rebellious) Hermione instead of the "hidden beauty" and shy Hermione (though I kind of cringe to say it that way, but whatever, haha. xD.).---I'm taking about the ball scene in that sentence.

But Hermoine is still kind of homely looking as a young girl. They have her hair all frizzled and puffy and long, and she's clearly a geek/nerd. And I felt like as they all grew up, they all got more attractive. I don't think that in Book 7 Hermoine was still this hunchback nerdy ugly girl, that just doesnt really fit at all

i think she does a decent job, its Ron that I think needs to do a better job acting. He just seems to comical/anime like, his emotions just dont feel right

yes I agree about Ron! I think they got the perfect actor for him in terms of appearance...except for his hair...was ron supposed to have longer hair like that? maybe it's just me but I NEVER pictured ron's hair like that in the books =p and in the illustrations like on the covers, it always showed him with a shorter style...

yeah I'd imagine hermione would change by the last book, as all the characters...and they did do a good job with her in the first few movies. she looked great! I think they should have waited until AFTER the 4th movie to give her a more flattering appearance though ^^

I like the way Rupert Grint portrays Ron, though I'll admit he seems a bit more mellow than J.K's Ron. Like...He was always supportive of Harry (except in later books and in the fourth actually; they don't show too much of that separation. Sort of did in the third, but they clash more than that on a regular basis. >.o.), and was more...rebellious, I guess would be a way to put it.

In my opinion, the movies have made him out to be more level-headed than he really was. >.o.

I'm not sure I'm going to watch this (if I haven't said this already). Managed to catch the fifth movie on HBO the other night and I was making weird noise as I watched it. I really dislike the decision to have them go around in school in muggle clothes. I can go as far as to say I hate it. I love the fireworks scene. I wish they had put in the marshes but I can understand why they didn't.

I think I understand DB's love for Helena (sp?), Bella was portrayed wonderfully in the movie. Gave me chills down my spine and when I heard her having fun, I laughed along. I don't mind Sirius so much now. I still dislike the new Dumbledore. Luna is exactly like she is in the book, except prettier (^^; ). I don't mind the other cast. They were all alright. Except for the protagonist, Mr Harry Potter himself. >.> I don't like the character much in the first place, and the actor isn't good too.

Official Trailer is out by the way. I have to say, I don't really like daniel as Harry potter except the very first one. Emma did a well Job in all the series as Hermoine.

But I will look forward to look at Matthew Lewis for his acting in episode 6, since he is suppose to be the one leading Dumbledore's army. It really stinks that Deathly Hollows has been split into 2 parts. Actually Seluna you don't have to fear the New Dumbledore, since he is suppose to die this episode?

Bellatrix, how I adore yet scorn her fiendish acts. Really love the last scene when she tripped.

I always loved Neville, I think he's coming into his own real well.

I personally LOVE the new films moreso than the original ones. It's probably just a preference thing in terms of how much fantasy/wizardy you enjoy. I like the newer ones more for the drama, and REALNESS of it (seems contradictary to a movie about magic), but I think the characters finally feel real, in the earliest movies i thought it was almost forced, whereas the interpretations of the characters seem to be coming into their own for me.

I also feel like the story is definitely getting darker, so theres not going to be a ton of focus on the "magical world" so to speak, not to mention its VERY easy to include those details in a book, but much harder to fit so much of it into one movie. Have to remember these books are anywhere from 500-700 pages long, you can't fit EVERYTHING into a movie. I don't think they've butchered it at all by changing the plotline in the least (cough Max Payne movie cough), and the imagery is still there. I think some of the vacation stuff and stores and side-things they do would get repetitive if they were in every movie, so they're narrowing it more down to an action plot, which i like.

I'm more excited for this movie than any of the others, because I feel like this is a make-or-break movie. The first couple were guaranteed because of all the hype, but as the series progresses, there's more stuff to criticize and be careful of as you can tell.

I give the trailers a thumbs up so far.